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Michael Jackson Justice: Conspiracy Proof - The Case that Never Was

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The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael's story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".

Monday, July 26, 2010

Conspiracy Proof - The Case that Never Was

Michael with Uri Gellar and Rabbi Boteach


July 25, 2010 – Conspiracy Proof! The Case that Never Was

Yesterday I had written about The Conspiracy which you can refer to here.

There was a gag order, according to Michael in that interview with Jesse Jackson, over the investigations going in with regard to the conspiracy he mentioned. I did not know why there would be a gag order on a court proceeding that the prosecution ordered open to the public. So I surmised that the gag order had to do with the investigations into the conspiracy and those Michael believed were involved.

During the 2005 trial, Tom Mesereau had ordered Interfer to investigate and uncovered suspicious payments to John Branca from Tommy Mottola, but nothing every was reported after that. Just that there were “improprieties”.

In 2006 after the trial and while Michael was over in Bahrain, Someone in Michael’s camp sent Michael and his associates paperwork proving several past employees conspired to petition others to drive him into involuntary bankruptcy. Several news articles which came out during August of 2006 confirmed that:

Jackson Discovers Conspiracy Against Him

Another article on the same subject on August 8, 2006

One of these reads:

“OS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson has stumbled across a conspiracy by former attorneys, associates and advisers to force him into financial ruin, his spokeswoman said on Monday.

“The plot was discovered after someone leaked documents to Jackson showing that unnamed former lawyers for the 47-year-old singer tried to recruit others into a petition that would drag him unwillingly into bankruptcy court, his spokeswoman and manager Raymone Bain said.

"In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson and his representatives which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisers to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy," Bain said.

An Unhappy Michael Jackson with Al Malnik and Brett Rattner


“During his four-month trial on child molestation charges last year, prosecutors asserted that the self-styled "King of Pop" was in perilous financial shape due to mounting debt.

“Bain declined to name the conspirators, saying that Jackson had ordered his current legal team to investigate the scheme and file lawsuits in multiple jurisdictions.

"In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement," Bain said.

“Bain also declined to say who provided the documents to Jackson, who she said was busy shopping for a home in Europe and recording material for his first studio album of new material since 2001.

“Jackson, who has made few public appearances since his acquittal on child molestation charges in 2005, announced in June that he had severed ties with his longtime business managers as part of a "sweeping restructuring" of his affairs.

“In March, state authorities ordered Jackson to close his Neverland Valley Ranch in the California foothills for failing to pay the staff or maintain proper insurance. In April, Jackson reached a deal to finance more than $200 million in loans secured by his stake in the Beatles song catalog.

Michael with Al Malnik again. Look Says it all.


“Bain said it was not yet clear why Jackson's former attorneys and associates would want to force bankruptcy on the onetime child star, who ruled the pop charts during the 1980s with such albums as "Off the Wall" and "Thriller."

"That's what we'd like to find out," Bain said. "But Michael Jackson was neither shocked nor surprised. He's always been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf ... may not have acted in his best interests."


And here

This is involuntary bankruptcy for those of you who would like to understand how this works – Involuntary bankruptcy


What happened to the Conspiracy case?

In digging I keep coming up with posts on different forums and message boards. This one really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up:

“Well its clear to me that the plan was to make Michael as poor as possible starting from 1999, this means stealing, falsely investing, getting huge loans out with massive % on them, getting lawsuits filed against him so he would be forced into Bankruptsy once the petition was filed and then the judge would take away his assets, one of those being one of the most important music catalogues in history. So are sony involved in this? Hell yeah, is Mottola involved in this? Hell yeah! Should Michael wear a bullet proof vest now? ABSOLUTELY!” Michael needed a propofol-proof doctor.

Frank DiLeo was also of the impression in interviews back in the eighties that he believed there were people that thought he and Michael were too powerful and wanted to split them up. Michael did actually fire DiLeo in 1989, but DiLeo was the one also blamed for starting and planting some of the “Michael Rumors” to the tabloid press. This continued then intensified right before and through the 1993 blackmail of Michael. There were even rumors that Frank was fired by Sony, not Michael himself and replaced with Sandy Gallin, who was hired by Mottolla.

There is some interesting discussion here. Although old, some of this discussion highlights some of the details missed by the media both then and now.

As I read through EVERY POST (ugh), it seems this announcement about the conspiracy has turned from Raymone Bain possibly getting the U.S. Justice Department involved to Michael counter-suing a couple of ex-advisors (Wisner/Konitzer, Schaffel). Were papers ever filed with the U.S. Justice Department?

Papers were filed on Aug. 29, 2006 in Tarzana, Calif. According to several blogs, Michael accused former attorneys Ayscough & Marar of petitioning Michael’s other previous lawyers to get them to join with them in forcing Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy. It was found on another blog discussion that Michael also claims in the papers that Brent Ayscough threatened to expose confidential information about Jackson to the press, violating rules of professional conduct.

However, another press release by a CNN reporter (tried to find this, this was also mentioned on a message boafd) the list of conspirators that were actually under suspicion were as follows:

- John Branca
- Trudy Green
- Howard Kaufman
- Charles Koppelman
- Al Manik
- Tommy Mottola
- Brett Ratner

Not Many Smiles with Al Malnik


None of these are Ayscough or Marar. A Sony-slanted blog stated:

“Jackson does not want to pay Ayscough the $216,000 in back fees for which the attorney sued him just one month earlier. He’s also embarrassed that in his filing, Ayscough "unmasks" Jackson’s horrific financial situation even more by telling the press just how much money Jackson owes everyone around him. Ayscough, Jackson says in the cross complaint to the July suit, listed as many of Jackson’s debts as possible.”

The web site I found that information from is Jacksonaction. On this page you will find links to the right for Facebook and Myspace . . . both Michael Jackson related. Their Facebook page info lists Recording label is Epic/Legacy Recordings, and MichaelJackson.com as one of their websites. Sony influenced Website? Yes. Sony influenced Blog? Yes. Fair and impartial reporting? Not on your life. So is Sony using paid bloggers?

Yes. It’s a P.R. Rescue attempt!

Misinformation is being put out there regarding the Conspiracy investigation, substituting other litigation Michael had to cover what was really going on. Searching documents on the possible filing of documents by Bain or Lopez to the U.S. Justice Department in reference to the Conspiracy by the above listed people and I was met only with the releasing of Michael Jackson’s FBI File. It said “A total of 111 pages were withheld to prevent duplication of material already released or to protect personal privacy, the identity of sources that provided information to the FBI in confidence, and internal rules and practices. Some information was referred to the U.S. Secret Service.”

The Secret Service? Why?

The files between March 1, 2004 and June 29, 2005 are here.

With the Justice Department involved in the 2005 trial investigations for the prosecution, is it safe to say that any documents Raymone Bain and/or Peter Lopez possibly turned over to them could have gotten shelved?

There is one of three possibilities. The U.S. Justice Department either told Michael and his people that there was not enough evidence to warrant an investigation; they investigated and found nothing, or they are still working on the case.

The revelation about the conspiracy first hit the press (rather lightly I may add) in August of 2006.

Tomorrow we will go over the list of the conspirators above, their connections to each other and Sony and the ATV catalog.

73 comments:

  1. Hi Bonnie, I'm not pro-Sony nor near of it, but I just want to tell you that since a year ago I'm in the michaeljackson.com forum. It was my first connection with Michael fans. And we have discussed all kind of things there, even criticize Sony and make boycotts into the forum against them for different reasons. So naturally we became fans in their FB page, and they never tried to sell us anything.
    I realized it belonged to Sony after sometime being there.
    I'm not anymore because it became not interesting, but still there is not any influence, at least not visually.
    I think they started the website around March 2009...

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  2. Which web site are you referring to beatriz? Jacksonaction? or MichaelJackson.com?

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  3. Hello Bonnie - are you saying that MichaelJackson.com website is owned or controlled by Sony (by paying bloggers?) Do you know how to discover who owns a website?

    Beatriz, how did you come to know it was a Sony-controlled site? Very interesting stuff, Bonnie. Thank you.

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  4. It's a DISinformation campaign. ;o)

    "JacksonAction - Fair and balanced News reporting". Interesting...that is a FOX "News" slogan.

    “In March, state authorities ordered Jackson to close his Neverland Valley Ranch in the California foothills for failing to pay the staff or maintain proper insurance."

    For anybody else, wouldn't there have simply been an order to put those things right rather than to shut it down? I believe Michael's vision of Neverland was a threat, evidenced by the kind of stories that made headlines about it. From what I remember, the news was never about the vital work on behalf of children. Never before or since has anything near to it been created, so selflessly...all encompassing...for FREE!

    "There is one of three possibilities..."
    Here's another - all documents and evidence were destroyed.

    FBI involvement -
    Am I missing something? How can the feds become involved in a one-state case?
    Oh...I see now - The Patriot Act?..."could represent a soft target for terrorism..." COULD?

    "POTENTIALLY rise to the level of Federal Violations...COULD lead to additional evidence..." There's NOTHING concrete there to justify FBI involvement! Unless of course I'm missing something.
    "consultation of prosecutive strategies..."??
    "Minor child - victim" Not ALLEGED victim?

    Too much secrecy...allow 18 pages and withhold 111? Gee, the vast number of agency acronyms alone make my head swim!

    Is DiLeo a good, bad or on the fence guy?

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  5. Rhoda made a discovery about michaeljackson.com on your Peeling Back the Layers post...(copyright at bottom of page etc.) Can you move/copy your post here Rhoda?

    I went to the site and clicked on the obscure Privacy Policy text at the bottom (blue on blue). It opens a new window to sonymusic.com:

    Tracking Technologies

    We automatically collect information as you browse our site(s) such as the domain name, Internet Service Provider, browser type and version, operating system and device type, average time spent on our site(s), pages viewed, information accessed, the Internet Protocol (IP) address used to connect your computer to the Internet and other relevant statistics.

    I don't think I'll be going there again!

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  6. www.michaeljackson.com called Michael the self-proclaimed King of Pop. This text was removed after fans complained. Details here:

    http://www.michaeljackson.com/my/node/89158

    The original text was this:

    "JULY 14, 2009
    Welcome to MichaelJackson.com Welcome to MichaelJackson.com. MichaelJackson.com is the official music site for Michael Jackson, the self-proclaimed King of Pop"

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  7. Just looking at the michaeljackson.com website, it's not hard to believe Sony owns it. Big ads at the top of the page to buy "This is It", and lots of other advertising. At the bottom of the page:
    Copyright © 2010 Sony Music Entertainment. All Rights Reserved.
    EPIC and the Epic "Script" logo, LEGACY and the "L Legacy" logo are registered trademarks of Sony Music Entertainment

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  8. Yeah, Sony owns and operates michaeljackson.com for sure. It says it al over like how Rhoda pointed out. When Michael died that site saved me, but it then became like a high school and I had to leave. Fans were (and still) are dividing left from right. There was nothing but fighting. Now I think it is ruled by hoax death people. I definatley can't handle the forums anymore.

    Anyways, this blog was a great one. Very informative. It left me with even more suspicion now that Peter Lopez is all of a sudden found dead. He really saw things. He had documents, and was in charge of investigating these people trying to force Michael into a bad financial state. You can bet he knew information that someone(Sony) didn't want to be let out.

    Im glad we are educating ourselves and learning the truth of what happened to Michael, but its still so frustrating how no one is doing anything about it!!

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  9. Bonnie - Why is that the conspirators thought it was a good time to push him into involuntary bankruptcy around the child allegation case?

    The involuntary bankruptcy says, “any three creditors together may petition for involuntary bankruptcy". Any of the articles you attached did not list the creditors who are unsatisfied and wanted the involuntary bankruptcy. The articles were only talking the conspiracy the lawyers are planting. They were doing these on behalf of who? One of them is Sony for sure. Who are the rest of them? You have to have at least three.

    Since involuntary bankruptcy is uncommon, according to the article, and it is hard for the creditors to push it, maybe the lawyers dropped the case and maybe Michael’s team stop for further pursuing the investigation.

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  10. Yes, Sony has been owning that site. As Rhoda said it is very obvious to figure it out, There are many fans who support and advocate for Sony in that site. I wonder if they know what Sony did to Michael? Maybe those fans don’t know what is going on between Michael and Sony so what can be done to educate them?

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  11. Hi Bonnie, I don't know if you realize this, or not; but in the top photo with Michael, Uri Geller and Boteach; the old guy on the left is the former Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon.

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  12. Sony does control michaeljackson.com Here's a Charles Thomson Interview with Sony PR Haydn Williams who said "We’ve redesigned MichaelJackson.com and will be making the singles available for download from there as well"

    http://www.charles-thomson.net/thriller25.html

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  13. Julie D, as soon as I saw that picture, I immediately recognized PM Sharon.

    Please pay attention to that. It means more than people are understanding. You have to understand who controls Sony, the media in all forms, and this government which includes the FBI and the "Justice" Department. When you're talking about getting to the bottom of the truth about Michael's murder and who's involved, do you understand who and what you're really about to unveil? It's very serious.

    "Sony" has the MichaelJackson.com site and FORUM up as a way to monitor who knows what! You better believe that they are monitoring other sites as well. I'm very surprised that this site is still up because Bonnie is blowing the lid off of this whole thing.

    I know that people don't want to connect this dot, but you better believe that there IS an accomplice at AEG, but they got pulled in late in the game.

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  14. Something else to consider. I've noticed how the Mafia has been mentioned in relation to Michael. However, many of those in the "mob" are Jewish. Could be you're barking up the wrong "mob"....ever hear of the Kosher Nostra? Surprise! Surprise! Some of those mentioned in Michael's saga are also mentioned here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime

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  15. Julie, is that why Michael, who we all know to have no racist bone in his body, said this in 2003?

    "They suck – they're like leeches. I'm so tired of it. They start out the most popular person in the world, make a lot of money, big house, cars, and everything, end up with, penniless. It is conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose."

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  16. Don't know, Jeff. Only Michael can answer that question.

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  17. The reality is: think of who owns the banks, the entertainment industry i.e., movies, music, etc., the newspapers (information); look how those in the U.S. government running for office kowtow to the Israeli lobby and, if you're really ambitious, do a check to see how many **dual** citizens i.e., American/Israeli citizens, are in important positions in the U.S. government. And it's not just under Obama, either; our government was littered with dual citizens during Bush's time as well. Hasn't VP Biden said he's proud to be a Zionist?

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  18. It's beginning to sound like confirmation of what I have thought all along...global puppeteers. And, there's a good reason why Sony did not promote Michael's song to benefit 9/11 victims, many of whom spoke out about the lies the media fed us. Then...silence.

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  19. Re: Julie D. and dual citizenship. I don't think you can be an American and at the same time a citizen of another country. I was formerly a passport agent, and was asked this question many times by naturalized citizens applying for an American passport. I was told by Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) that you declare allegiance to the United States alone, and not to any other country. People do say they are dual citizens, I just don't think they are. In reality, they just keep both their old and new passports and use whichever one helps them the most. I just wonder if they pay income taxes to 2 countries, that would make them think twice. Sorry it's a little off topic :-).

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  20. I'm sure there are people from Sony watching THIS SITE very carefully!

    Can Sony Track US on this site, too?


    Can they force you to take "This Site" down?

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  21. Rhoda, you are quite right...EXCEPT for Israeli Americans.

    The 1940 Nationality Act

    Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."

    This law was tested many times. In 1958, for instance, an American citizen named Perez voted in a Mexican election. The case went to the Supreme Court, where the majority opinion held that Perez must lose his American nationality. The court said Congress could provide for expatriation as a reasonable way of preventing embarrassment to the United States in its foreign relations.

    But then something very odd happened.

    In 1967 an American Jew, Beys Afroyim received an exemption that set a precedent exclusively for American Jews. Afroyim, born in Poland in 1895, emigrated to America in 1912, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1926. In 1950, aged 55, he emigrated to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. In 1951 Afroyim voted in an Israeli Knesset election and in five political elections that followed. So, by all standards he lost his American citizenship -- right? Wrong.

    After living in Israel for a decade, Afroyim wished to return to New York. In 1960, he asked the U.S. Consulate in Haifa for an American passport. The Department of State refused the application, invoking section 401 (e) of the Nationality Act -- the same ruling that had stripped the American citizen named Perez of his U.S. citizenship.

    Attorneys acting for Afroyim took his case to a Washington, DC District Court, which upheld the law. Then his attorneys appealed to the Court of Appeals. This court also upheld the law. The attorneys for Afroyim then moved the case on to the Supreme Court. Here, with Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Lyndon Johnson's former attorney and one of the most powerful Jewish Americans, casting the swing vote, the court voted five to four in favor of Afroyim. The court held that the U.S. government had no right to "rob" Afroyim of his American citizenship!

    The court, reversing its previous judgment as regards the Mexican American, ruled that Afroyim had not shown "intent" to lose citizenship by voting in Israeli elections. Huh?

    While Washington claims it has a "good neighbor" policy with Mexico, the U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes them become either U.S. or Mexican -- you can't be both. But the U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well! No other country holds this special exception to our laws of citizenship.

    http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

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  24. Bonnie, I guess you have the answers already. :)
    I want to ask you some of you to stop making comments about Jewish. This is all "tabloid's" press.
    First of all it's off-topic, and second I'm jewish and you make me feel very uncomfortable, and I don't want to leave this blog because I love it.
    I think you have not the right to make me leave a place that I really enjoy a lot.
    Third, this is not Michael's legacy at all.
    Thanks!

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  25. Julie, thank you for the history lesson. It's very eye-opening.

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  26. Can Sony track us on this site?

    Can Sony force you to take down this site?

    Also, the first picture in this article looks photoshopped to me.

    Rabbi Botech looks very little in the picture.
    He doesn't look normal human size.

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  27. I don't understand why Michael's knee is in alignment with Rabbi Boteach's chest.

    Michael is sitting down.
    So why is Rabbi Boteach so little?

    Just wondering.

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  28. Beatriz, I am sorry you feel that way. Michael's closest people were Jewish and he deeply sympathised with the Holocaust victims. I can go on and on; I will never believe he was racist. Michael also talked about the Italian Mafia. Here is an excerpt from an article that accuses Michael of being racist:

    "Jackson is reported to have left a voice message for former friend Dieter Wiesner in late 2002 or early 2003, slamming record mogul Tommy Mottola.

    "I'm very concerned. I don't trust that man. He thinks he's God. He thinks he's Italian Mafia", Jackson is quoted by America's New York Post as saying.

    Meanwhile, the singer had to apologize to America's Jewish community, as he was said to have called them 'leeches.'"

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Michael-Jackson-s-Racist-Views-13666.shtml

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  29. Any comments attributed to Michael I would put up to the imagination of the author of whatever MSM rag they were working for; even those "tell tale" voice mails all over the internet are suspect. Ever hear of voice modifying equipment? You can talk in one end and the voice coming out the other end can sound like someone else...even Michael Jackson.

    Boteach in the pic might be kneeling on the floor which is why he looks different from the others.

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  30. Regarding michaeljackson.com, at the bottom of the page is this:

    Copyright © 2010 Sony Music Entertainment. All Rights Reserved.

    Regarding JacksonAction, doing a whois search, it comes up with this:

    Domain Name: JACKSONACTION.COM
    Registrar: ASCIO TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.ascio.com
    Referral URL: http://www.ascio.com
    Name Server: NS1.B-ONE.NU
    Name Server: NS2.B-ONE.NU
    Status: ok
    Updated Date: 02-dec-2009
    Creation Date: 01-dec-2002
    Expiration Date: 01-dec-2010

    Going to the http://www.ascio.com link leads me to:

    Group NBT in the UK

    http://www.groupnbt.com/

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  31. Ahhhh - There were two comments here early yesterday morning. Ugh!

    June - Yes, MichaelJackson.com is Sony Owned and licensed. On bottom of the main page (and subsequent pages):

    "Copyright © 2010 Sony Music Entertainment. All Rights Reserved.
    EPIC and the Epic "Script" logo, LEGACY and the "L Legacy" logo are registered trademarks of Sony Music Entertainment. "

    truthbtold2all - FBI involvement I believe is because they had to out of the country (they didn't HAVE to, they just did) to try and recruit - er, I mean FIND victims. Out of their jurisdiction, they had to get the feds involved. On the omitted pages in the FBI file, I believe that could have to do with one or two things:

    Private and confidential information or . . . the other people they were investigating in the trial, ie: Michael's previous business partners and lawyers). Most marketing website track their visitors . . . no need to worry.

    Jeff - Yes, you are right. They know doggone well Michael didn't come up with that title, Liz did!

    Rhoda - Yes, you found it. It is Sony owned and operated.

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  32. michaelmagic - I would have faith if I were you, that someone IS doing something about it. We just keep putting the truth out there. It looks like no one cares, but I have a feeling . . . :o)

    Mesrak (Mimi) - They never got far enough to actually file it. The people involved were PETITIONING others to take part, but they were found out before they could actually do anything.

    Julie D - That's interesting! Yes, I believe Schmuley knew Sharon. No, I didn't even pay attention until you pointed it out! Thank you!

    MUZIKfactory2 - Thank you Muzik! Yeah, no wonder he flipped a blood vessel when I mentioned him and Sony, LOL! HOw'd he get THAT interview I wonder????

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  33. Julie D,

    Yeah, there are alot of men standing up in the back.

    Maybe they ran out of chairs and wanted to take a quick picture, so Boteach is either kneeling or sitting on the floor.

    That make sense. Thanks

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  35. Well, I just lost all my comments to posts so I will have to type up a shorty!

    JulieD - Please, I need to keep political comments off this blog. I do not believe half the propaganda out there in regard to the Israel vs Palestinians and this is DEFINITELY not the forum to discuss it. Please, I need your assistance in this. Michael loved everybody.

    Beatriz - Michael's comments were in reference to the mob people he had to deal with in the music industry, not the Jewish general population.

    I deleted the inflammatory posts, okay?

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  36. Jeff wrote:

    "Jackson is reported to have left a voice message for former friend Dieter Wiesner in late 2002 or early 2003, slamming record mogul Tommy Mottola.

    "I'm very concerned. I don't trust that man. He thinks he's God. He thinks he's Italian Mafia", Jackson is quoted by America's New York Post as saying."

    That's very strange that Michael was concerned that Mottola thought he was an Italian mobster when Mottola, in fact, had converted to Judaism.

    "Mottola's first few attempts at establishing a career were on the performing side of the entertainment industry...to singing, and a handful of unknown singles for Epic Records almost as quickly prompted a switch from the spotlight to the dark underbelly of the business world -- a move aided to some extent by his marriage to the daughter of ABC Records founder Sam Clark, to which end he made a conversion from Catholicism to Judaism."

    http://www.nndb.com/people/931/000023862/

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  37. Josie - Sony has not ever contacte me about this blog. Even if they did try to force me to take it down, I have every single blog entry on word document. I would only open another blog under another name. Besides, them doing that to someone as small as me would end up a P.R. nightmare for them because I would DEFINITELY write about it.

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  38. Bonnie, yes, Michael did love everyone; but he wasn't a fool. I did say when I mentioned the Palestinians I had gotten off topic and dropped it. But, you're so close and now you want to skirt the issue. EVERYTHING needs to be looked at.

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  39. Julie, I did a whois search too . . . Ascio Technologies. It's a domain registration company. http://icannwiki.org/Ascio_Technologies_Inc. It is not telling us who actually owns the domain. That stinks! Come on, Whois! What good are ya?

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  40. bunnieroe - remind me again who I'm supposed to email?

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  41. BonnieL - I don't know your email address . . . who are you on FB?

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  43. Julie D - Motolla. He converted to Judaism to marry Sam Cook's daughter. They didn't stay married long. Just long enough for him to get where he wanted to in the business. He treats his religions the same way. You really don't believe he is still practicing Jewish, do you?

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  44. JulieD - that website people mapper you put up there? You should search Michael Jackson. their information is all wrong! I wouldn't trust it as a reliable resource.

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  45. Julie D - Skirt the issue? What is the issue Julie? Michael Jackson's death was the result of the Jewish state to oppress Palestinians? This has nothing to do with Michael.

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  47. Regarding Mottola's conversion to Judaism, take your pick, hon.

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=tommy+mottola+converts+to+Judaism&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CWXCSdJNOTLf5G4GgjgPstOyMDgAAAKoEBU_QfTww&pbx=1&fp=823c2201b34461f4

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  48. LAST TIME - THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL FORUM

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  49. Julie D - My mistake. Here is the fact page on "Anschutz" from the same site you used for Mottola. it wasn't Campaign for Liberty, it was Americans for Truth in Politics.

    http://www.nndb.com/people/498/000094216/

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  50. JUlieD= Jewish Mob is all through the music industry. Lansky was head of Italian mob who was Al Malnik's mentor. This is the topic I want to stay on. Please.

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  51. Stay the course... there are too many layers here to even get involved with race.Its a slippery slope mentioning race.It does but it doesn't have relevance in this investigation. I mean after all we are discussing the entertainment business.but for now, race plays a part by association only. One thing at a time...we are limited P.I's as of now.Remember while we are all passionate in what rings true for ourselves... We must combine our focus and passion to what we are all really here for.

    Lets open our hearts and mind leave ego out.We all will disagree at some point on here or become bothered.but we are better together than divided. We all can contribute whatever we know/ whoever we know to this investigation.This is the internet everybody is from all over the world we are bound to have representatives from all religions on here. but we shall become better people for practicing patients and listening. ask ourselves before we type...is this truly helping Michael or feeding my ego? Michael Loved kind,honest,respectful, people.

    It is not too difficult to start your own blog too,I think.So that's another option if you feel compelled to share something...? This is Bonnie's blog with all due respect.

    Peace!

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  52. oops my tired brain...patience not patients.Please excuse my typo's...

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  53. LOL Bonnie, your viewership activity has increased! I'm surprised when I go back to older posts and there are not many comments.

    Gracie, what a compelling and sensible peacemaker you are! ;o)

    Differences aside, fight the good fight and unite...

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  54. Last night I went back to MichaelJackson.com; there are so many sincere loving posts there directed to Michael, but I wonder if any of them know this domain is owned and controlled by Sony. I was tempted to enter my own comment there posing that very question; it would be interesting to see if comment participation drops off at all if the posters had that info! As one poster here said, the identifying info in the lower left corner in "blue on blue" (Sony Music Entertainment) is practically unrecognizable.

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  55. June ~ yes, and the bigger question might be...how many know about Sony's conspiracy to ruin Michael? Many are ignorant of those facts so knowing Sony owns the website would mean nothing to them. It would be interesting to see how long a post revealing the conspiracy would remain.

    It's shocking that Sony apparently now owns even Michael's NAME!

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  56. June - you said you were tempted to enter your own comment on MichaelJackson.com. Did you post comment there? I did not get it.

    I left a comment here in this blog asking what can be done to educate and remind those fans who are dedicated to Sony owned MichaelJackson.com?

    Do you think it is a good idea to go to the site and live comments and remind them what Sony did to Michael?

    I am surprised how in the world those fans who participate on that site are totally ignorant of the fact, the pain and the anguish Michael went through or they believe Sony is the good guy for Michael?

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  57. Unfortunately, we live in a time when it's inflammatory to speak the truth. I love that Michael was not afraid to speak the truth whether it be in a song or direct statements. A lot of people aren't going to like the truth about what happened to Michael because they'll have no choice but to face a lot of ugliness going on in the shadows in the world. I love Michael Jackson and he deserves justice. Although no one has mentioned race in any of these comments, we can't get divided over religion either. Now, let's see if this comment of mine gets deleted. It shouldn't :).

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  58. Grace - Thank you for your statements. I did not want to get way out on a limb in this thing.

    Mimi - Someone posted one of my articles over there about Sony and it has not been taken down. It's probably buried now, but it is still coming up in the search engines under Sony and Michael Jackson Death searches.

    J - It's not inflammatory to speak the truth if it is the truth. I agree that there are those that don't want to see it. But there are also some that want to jump over information we don't have yet to reach. We still don't know who ordered Dr. Murray to kill Michael and we have people wanting to blame past prime ministers of countries. (for the record, I don't like Sharon either).

    There is so much propaganda out there it is EASY to get sidetracked and thrown off course. We are trying to connect the dots, not grasp for straws. And J? I never, ever heard Michael sing about the Israeli state vs. the Palestinians. He never singled out one ethnic group, religion or people in any of his songs. His personal and professional frustration was with those involved in the music industry. And no, I won't delete your comment. I saw nothing wrong with it. It was calm and courteous and not inflammatory.

    I am upset about JulieD because she chased Beatriz off my page with her rant about "Jews". Very upset about that.

    We have fans that think the Muslims killed Michael (Royal Family in Bahrain, Prince Al Waleed), we have people that think the Jewish killed Michael and we have people that think the Italians killed Michael . . . where is this stuff coming from? (Don't answer that. Rhetorical question)

    I am one of those that believe that people will be very surprised when this all comes rising to the surface and I also believe IN MY HEART that justice will be done. I do not believe World Governments are involved in this. I DO BELIEVE that friends of friends of friends are helping to cover up what happened to him.

    Let's keep digging.

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  59. Bonnie - Muzikfactory2 posted a link on July 26 (time shows as 12:20 pm) by Thomson:

    www.charles-thomson.net/thriller25

    I know you are beyond Thomson now; however, I read the entire article, seems to have been posted December 2007, and refers to the release of Thriller2 being postponed to February 2008. Thomson's article in Dec 2007 was actually laudatory of Michael and rather harsh about the "mixes" used by the contemporary artists, Akon, Black Eyed Peas, others, in Thriller25.

    In this article, Thomson is talking to Haydn someone, the PR person for Sony, in London, as he is listening to tracks from T25; this was a personal interview Thomson was granted by Sony, so he says. Remember, this was written December 2007. There's a lot of discussion between them about the 02 London concerts in the future, although Haydn hedges when pressed for particulars, citing the fact that Michael usually backs off if info is leaked to the press, something Sony wants to avoid.

    I think this article by Thomson is worth a second read. If it is true that the London 02 concerts were in the planning stages, or "being discussed" in Dec 2007, that might tie in with Michael's management changes in 2008. Wasn't Peter Lopez hired then? (and enter Tohme?) And what took so long to get to the March 2009 "announcement" of the concerts which at that point were to start early July 2009, a mere four months from the announcement? TII, the film, depicts the dancers' selection occurring as late as mid-April 2009. Was Michael unsure if he wanted to do the concerts, even as late as March 2009, although they had been in planning and discussion as far back as late 2007? Could Michael have been seeking other ways out of his financial problems, with the 10 London concert dates as a last ditch proposal, and have been financially pressured all through 2008 by as yet unnamed individuals into finally going through with the tour?

    Bonnie - I agree with your comment that Michael's frustrations were with the music industry and we should continue to focus on that element.

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  60. Beatriz – I hope you still reading Bonnie’s blog. I want to tell you that it is good to let those people know who are crossing the line and upsetting you so they can realize their mistake; however, their upsetting comments should also make you stronger and a fighter for truth. We know you love Michael so much so he needs you in this fight. Please don’t give up and come back for the sake of Michael and participate since everyone’s input is vital to this journey. Remember we’re all her for one reason, JUSTICE for MICHAEL.

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  61. I am very proud of this forum! I have witnessed a wonderful group of people with truthful,peaceful,intent...I hope you stay Beatriz and feel welcomed here.We all learn so much from each other.Everyone has shown me such kindness and support.Everyone has mishaps there is always forgiveness(especially here I would know)! :) Bonnie,you do wonderful and your work is much appreciated.Thanks girlfriend @Truthbtold!


    Back to this blog Raymone Bain is a interesting character to me...wonder what she is up to?

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  62. BTW- off the subject a tad... I don't know about you
    guys but I cant stand Michael's mugshot.Im fixing it on photo shop...well trying...I mean its got nothing to do with anything but um..yeah...

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  63. www.charles-thomson.net/thriller25 has been deleted now. Fortunately, it's still accessible via the cache.

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  64. Copy and paste for your reading pleasure:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GVR1mPVgLnUJ:www.charles-thomson.net/thriller25.html+www.charles-thomson.net/thriller25&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Thank you Jeff and Juneyny.

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  65. I remember this article June. A while back people were commenting on the fact that Sony and Michael were not making ammends and that the album was just one of the last deeds Michael owed Sony as part of the agreement to be released from his contract. One of two "box sets" and was it two or three new songs?

    In 2007 Charles, according to the age on his profile was approximately 19 or twenty years old during this "private meeting" he was invited to by head of Sony P.R. And now he removes this too from the internet. Aside from the fact that there is SO MUCH incriminating information in that article, it was quite good.

    By the way . . . Akon is fantastic with Michael in "Hold my Hand" I love that song. Akon is not grating at all on the ears. Fergie? Ehhh!

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  66. June - more on your post. You said:

    "Wasn't Peter Lopez hired then? (and enter Tohme?) And what took so long to get to the March 2009 "announcement" of the concerts which at that point were to start early July 2009, a mere four months from the announcement? TII, the film, depicts the dancers' selection occurring as late as mid-April 2009. Was Michael unsure if he wanted to do the concerts, even as late as March 2009, although they had been in planning and discussion as far back as late 2007? Could Michael have been seeking other ways out of his financial problems, with the 10 London concert dates as a last ditch proposal, and have been financially pressured all through 2008 by as yet unnamed individuals into finally going through with the tour? "

    Peter Lopez was hired by Bain in 2006. The story that has been put out there was that Randy Phillips said they had been trying to get Michael to agree to a concert before, back in 2007 (this should be semi-common knowledge) and was told by Michael's "handlers" that he was "not ready". It was also put out there that Michael had confessed to Corey Rooney that he could not tour, that it would "kill him". Moving on . . .

    Michael NEVER wanted to do the concerts. The story put out was that Michael was forced into signing this contract under duress because of financial stress.

    There was a plan to get Michael back to work for a long time and from what I am seeing, the concerts were part of this plan from back in 2007. What I am NOT FINDING however is any concrete intentions from the promoters that there was ever really going to be any concerts.

    You do not have a company that has successfully produced other big name concerts fall THAT SHORT of preparation, ESPECIALLY for someone like Michael Jackson, knowing what he requires in his shows.

    This is another blog topic in the near future.

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  67. Gracie - I don't like Michael's mugshot either, but it is documentation of the CRAP they put him through. Sorry for the language but his face keeps up up researching at three in the morning.

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  68. Bonnie, thanks, I can't take credit for alerting viewers to the Thomson article, as I said Muzikfactory posted it 7/26 at 12:20, it might have escaped attention as it was posted to confirm Sony's ownership of Michaeljackson.com.

    When I opened the link I was amazed at its contents! Aside from it being from "Thomson", I found the timeline so very interesting, showing that O2 was "in the works" in late 2007 and it apparently took more than a year before it turned from possibility to probability, I think because Michael didn't wanna do it and was finally financially pressured into it during 2008.

    If the film TII is to be believed (ha), and Michael was "happy" on that last day, and told Frank D. something to the effect this is our time Frank, then maybe we are to believe Michael was happy when TII was "filmed", during the 2 or 3 days immediately before his death. I'll just bet he wasn't a happy camper in 2008.

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  69. Thank you Mezrak for your kind words, I appreciate it a lot. Yes it is "my need" to be here.
    @Bonnie, thank you for your comments too. I was not mentioning that Michael was racist, I can't believe something like that from him particularly.
    They were some disturbing (for me) comments done here about Jewish, I just asked not to do it here please... thanks for everything!

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  70. Bonnie - the post above from Schurzie1 is me, june, trying to reply to you, I have a couple accounts and something got mixed up. Yes, we have to find something from AEG showing that the concerts were actually going to happen!

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  71. JUne - The only proof we have that any intention of putting on these concerts was going to happen was the sale of tickets. That's it. Everything else was so rediculously behind schedule (according to sources), that it is inconcievable to me that AEG/Phillips intended these concerts to go on . . . at all? Most of the sets were not even done! The costumes? Forget about it! Rehearsals (even though MIKE new his part) no full run throughs, Pyro not ready, choir hadn't even been hired yet and no rehearsal and they were two weeks outside of opening night? No way!

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  72. I've read that Ortega, and others, were in "talks" with MJ for 2 years to get a concert deal. Everything so rushed and last minute. Staggering! Does anyone know why? I can't imagine the pressure!

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