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Michael Jackson Justice: October 2010

God: Reconnect to Him

The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael's story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".

Thursday, October 28, 2010

Christmas Presents for Michael's Children or Charity?

The Subject of Christmas Gifts for Michael's Children

I most certainly did not expect to put up another blog today, but because of the subject matter and the relevance to what I posted previously I will.
I was tagged in a note regarding Taaj Malik organizing a gathering of funds to buy Christmas Gifts for Michael's children.  Considering Taaj's opportunistic "love" for the Jackson family, trusting her to manage funds for anything, let alone Jackson Related gifts kind if gives me the willies.  Most of you know about her hate-tweets to Randy and attacks on other members of the Jackson family.

The person tagging me in this note, had a better idea, however Taaj kept deleting it.  

If you are so inclined to participate in doing something for Michael's children, you can most certainly do so individually.  You don't need to do it through a group that has questionable associations or that is run by a person that in my opinion based on her past behavior, is at best unstable.

You can also do what the person suggested below.  I will add her name to this if she gives me her permission.
Michael looking rather relaxed at TII Rehearsals

  • This Note is MY Opinion ONLY..
  • First, I read where Taaj wants  to collect MORE MONEY from Michael's Devoted Fans to Purchase Christmas Gifts for Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson. I think this is a nice gesture, but it is over the top and not needed.
  • I wrote Taaj, and she deleted my SUGGESTIONS.  I know that the children have received many, many gifts growing up and Michael DONATED such gifts to Children Homes and where they would be appreciated (this is not saying they were not appreciated, but Michael did NOT spoil his children and made it clear they were his children and he did not believe in letting them think they were more special than other children)
  • My SUGGESTION was to Taaj, is that if she felt the need to collect $$$, that the Best Gift would be to choose several Charities that Michael supported and make a Substantial Donation to those Charities in the names of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson in MEMORY of their Father 'The King of Pop', Michael Jackson. What better Wave of Love and Admiration for ALL Michael believed in and lived for, than to continue what he spent a Lifetime doing anonymously in most cases.
  • I am sure Paris does not need a Fancy Dress, or a Spa Certificate. ( which would most likely not be used for obvious reasons)  Prince and Blanket are not in need of an electronic game, Video game or treats.
  • As I said, it is a good thought, but I feel more Appreciation would come from such Donations in their name in MEMORY of their Father.
  • The 'Sunflower Group' is Fan~mily centered and this group shows the FAN LOVE for Michael each Friday and ALL MJ Fans should join this Group.  This is something Close and Personal for Michael week.
  • Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson have all the material items money can buy. What they are missing is their father, and I feel the Best way to HONOR their father is not by buying trivial gifts for the children, but showing that the Fans 'get it' and his lifetime of Humanitarian Efforts will be continued.
  • Thanks for reading this, and I hope it happens..

I did not write this but I do think it is an excellent idea and it is very "Mike-Like".  Remember, Michael treated ALL CHILDREN as if they were his own.  He loved them the same as his own.  So if you decide to give to a charity that gifts children, you WILL be gifting Michael's children, in his mind and heart.

When I get set up at the new house I will begin compiling a list of LEGITIMATE charities and I will research them to make sure their donation to benefit ratios are the highest.  That means that most of what they take in goes to the intended purpose and not spent on overhead.

Love you all MORE and I will see you on the other side.  My husband is dragging me away from the 'puter as I type this . . . BYE! LOL! ♥♥♥

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

God is Looking Out For Michael and His Children

October 27, 2010 – God is Looking Out For Michael and His Children

I wanted to take the break leaving on a more inspirational note.  I am feeling particularly mellow right now and after a day like today, I’m trying to figure out how that happened.  But ending the day feeling inspirational after a rather confrontational day inspired me to write this tonight.

I have never been so tired in my life.  Four hours of sleep, running up and down stairs with household things, directing movers, hoping on the computer periodically to moderate comments and add a few of my own, sending one of my neighbors packing who came over specifically to harass my movers about the size of their truck (This was the first time I had ever seen her in the five years I’ve lived here…go figure), and making arrangements for the utilities to get turned off.  Sweeping up debris left behind by movers, unpacking things I told them not to pack  (you can’t tell just one, have to tell all of them, LOL) and the ultimate result is one exhausted lil’ woman!

This is the kind of “tired” where you feel like your someone else and your “real” you is already curled up inside you, sleeping.  I know I should just give it up and crawl into bed, but that would mean moving some boxes and the suitcases containing the “mini” house and I don’t wanna.

Driving back from the store tonight with purchases of items I bought to replace what the movers packed and loaded onto the semi, I thought today about the remarks made over the years by Lisa Marie about Michael.  I thought about the reported jealousy of her children’s affection for Michael and then I thought about Michael’s children.

Michael and his first born, Prince

One of the blessings I believed Michael’s children were given was a very protective father.  They reportedly were not allowed to watch t.v. unsupervised(Nickelodeon and Disney Channel battles were the biggest things Michael had to worry about…parents take note!) nor did they go on the internet because of the things that were out there about their father.  They were lies that should never have been out there to begin with.

Michael made sure any tabloids in book stores they went to were turned before his children went in.  This is something all parents should do. Maybe somebody will get the message.

The blessing in disguise is that Michael’s children were sheltered from much of the “culture” that has corrupted  and continues to corrupt our children.

Michael and his second born, Paris

Michael was a vigilant, protective, nurturing, loving and FUN parent.  The stories I read about Michael picking up after his son’s spills or requiring the children to make their own beds made me smile.  I see clips of them in Youtube during the appearances they have made and I am reminded of Prince’s speech, and how he started off thanking God for looking after them.  Just when I thought my heart couldn’t get any bigger, I was so proud of him.  I bet dad was beaming!

These are the things I think about when someone wants to discourage me from calling out the behavior of others toward Michael.  Michael’s children unfortunately will eventually see this.  Even though I have no doubts they know their father better than any of their father’s tormentors, it must be painful trying to figure out just why these people had it in for someone they love so much.

I would want Michael’s children to see the truth printed about their father.  I would like to see a day where they don’t have to avert their eyes whenever they walk into a book store or a market.  I would like to see a day when they can turn the channel on the t.v. and not have to brush by certain channels quickly to avoid nausea.

One of these days, I would like to be able to know that Michael’s children will turn on a t.v. and see a reporter  interviewing one of the children in the many foreign hospitals he’s saved with a life saving medical procedure this child otherwise would not have received.

Michael and his youngest, Prince Michael II (Blanket)

I would like to know that Michael’s children can pick up a magazine and read a story about a girl who turned her life around because of a song she heard from Michael on the radio.

I would like to know that Michael’s children will one day be able to walk through a park knowing that most of the people smiling at them finally know for certain that their father was guilty of nothing but loving people and helping people, “The way Jesus said to . . .”

I would like Michael’s children to be able to go to sleep at night with smiles on their faces, knowing that God rewards the good and you don’t always have to wait to get to Heaven to be vindicated of crimes you never committed in the first place.

Prince, Paris and Blanket, I am truly hoping you are not reading this blog. Because if you are, that means you are on the internet . . . and I’m telling your grandmother! (smile)  But if someone close to you reads this and prints it out for you to read, I want you to know this:

Your father had more faith in God than most ministers.  Your father gave more love to people then most deserved and he put more trust in truth and the power of it over lies then any modern men I have read about.

Prince, Paris and Blanket?  Your Dad's School Picture!

Your dad was able to accomplish so much because he opened up to God and let God work through him.  This is what your dad taught me and I never met him.  He taught me that regardless of the pressure put on you by others, maintain your course, do not give in and do not give up.   When outside influences want to derail you, just step back and let them talk.  God will reveal the truth to you, faithfully, if you give him patience.

Your dad was an expert at practicing delayed gratification.  He knew where his true rewards were and he also knew that his music and his part in that industry was just part of a much bigger picture.

We are all out here praying for you and for God to continue to “look after” you.  We are also all very, very proud of your dad and very proud of you.  Your dad was right . . . whatever he said, he was right.

Remember God and remember to show his love through you to others.  And remember we love you.

Your Dad . . . Loved God, Children, People and Fun

Everyone reading this blog, I don’t want to harp on this, but please continue to keep reading that protection prayer.  And THANK YOU for doing so!

God Bless you . . . See you in a couple of days.




And Innocence

Monday, October 25, 2010

Lisa Marie’s Mom Shared Michael’s Ex-Lawyer?

October 25, 2010 – Lisa Marie’s Mom Shared Michael’s Ex-Lawyer?

Today is the 16-month anniversary of the passing away of Michael Jackson.  It is also the last day for a while I will be able to put up a blog.  To leave it like THIS breaks my heart.

I did what I said I was going to do.  I went back over the interview with Oprah and Lisa Marie . . . SEVERAL times.  I did what someone else suggested I do and study Lisa the way I did Michael.  Well, I did.  It not only managed to cement my feelings from my initial post, it added even more dread in the pit of my stomach.   I am really starting to become afraid to investigate. 

Lisa Marie Presley, in the minds of many of Michael’s fans, was the one true love he had but it never was.  At least not on her part.  I have tried every which way but loose to see it (even tried loose) and I tried and I tried.  I can’t do any more because what I am seeing HURTS.  The more I dug the darker I felt inside and if Michael believed there was love there in the beginning, I cannot imagine the pain he was in.

There have been so many fantastic responses from both sides of this issue and a learning experience.  I agree that we should be FAIR when investigating all this and I feel that I have been even when attacked, or tried my hardest to be.  What is important to remember is that Michael is at the core of all this.  This isn’t about Lisa Marie.  Michael was the one murdered.  Michael’s children are the ones without their father.  Lisa Marie has her children, her “new” Michael and her upcoming album.

I’ve looked at this from the angle of a very young girl, sheltered and possibly spoiled not really knowing marriage. But you don’t do the things she has done just out of ignorance or immaturity.  She did things to deliberately hurt.  The more videos of her I saw, the more my heart fell.  Starting from my comment yesterday after viewing a couple of these videos:

“In the Diane Sawyer interview with BOTH LISA MARIE AND MICHAEL . . . they are asked WHO popped the question . . . who brought up marriage?”

“Both say, "Michael". Then Michael continues with this story of how he asked his lawyer THEN JOHN BRANCA if he knew Lisa Marie Presley. MICHEAL THEN SAYS, "John says, well I represent her mother Priscilla".

“Elvis Songs are in the catalog that Michael owned!”

“Now MICHAEL may have believed that it was his idea . . . but lets look at what Lisa has said:”

“She LEFT DANNY FOR MICHAEL . . even with children. Why?”

“She refused to have children with Michael. Why?”

“She still maintains family with Danny and fought with Michael over her vacationing with her ex husband. Why? Who iced who out?”

“She says she left the marriage but then she follows him around and writes him letters afterwards . . . why? Because she loved him or because he still owned the Elvis songs? “

“She didn't seem to care that Debbie was going to give him children before they split. After they split then she chases him down. Michael may have entertained her (because of her children), but I think he was quite done or they would have been back together.”

“I do not believe the 2005 conversation happened. I believe that was said for the benefit of fans and to maybe throw out a jab for anyone close to Michael who was listening.”

“In the Schmuley interviews, Michael also talks about how manipulative women are. He wasn't around his brothers long enough to see all this happening although he could have, but what if he were talking about LMP?”

Branca, according to Michael, is the connecting factor to Priscilla Presley if not Lisa Marie. Source

Above, Michael talks about John Branca, asking him about Lisa Marie and Branca’s response that he represented Priscilla.  Let’s look at these claims.

John Branca’s own website mentions nothing about either Priscilla Presley or the Presley Estate (I was told it was once on there, but now it is off).  He may have represented Priscilla . . . she was an actress.  But I dont' see him anywhere involved in the estate: 

Elvis Presley Estate has been removed as a client AS HAS JACKSON ESTATE IS NO LONGER THERE.  His client list is here.  Notice that the “Cobain Estate” the one reportedly handled by Howard Weitzman (not of Branca’s firm) is now credited to Branca.  Cobain’s estate also went through a lawsuit until Courtney Love suddenly withdrew the complaint.
Did Branca lie to Michael?  Where his wheels spinning when Michael mentioned an interest in Lisa Marie?  Michael said he said this to Branca when Lisa Marie was about eighteen years old.  Michael would have been 28 years old.  So circa 1986 to 1987.  This is a year or so after Michael purchased the catalog.  Branca knew it contained Elvis songs, he’s the one that did the deal.
Could Branca have found a way to contact Priscilla (assuming that he lied to Michael about representing her when Michael asked about LMP), Priscilla Presley appears nowhere on John Branca’s Dossier of artists represented.
I did searches on links for the Presley Estate and guess what . . . Neither Branca nor his firm are listed for either Presley Estate, Presley Trust or the newer formed Elvis Presley Enterprises: Here also, no mention of Branca or his firm.  But he's not connected with the estate and neither is his firm.  The only place I have seen this is on Branca's web site and Branca could have put it on there because he worked with PRISCILLA, which would be disingenuous at best.

Branca - He wasn't a lawyer all that long before he started representing Michael and he was still a relative newbie.  This is who represented and handled the Presley Trust -   Branca is only a few years older than Michael.  I don't see Branca mentioned anywhere in there. 

However, I found this,  Lisa Marie sold 85% of her father’s estate for $100 milllion (not counting Graceland) in 2005, announcement was made in December of the previous year.  Source.  Why was this done?  Aside from Graceland, that is control of trademarks, licensing, film rights, merchandising.   She still owns 15% but that is not controlling share.  She got according to the article a little over $50 million cash out of the deal, $25 million in debts paid off and where the other $25 million went is not mentioned.  What was going on in 2005?  Michael’s trial.  December of 2004 it was reported on as being in the works.  Right over the trial . . . why?  Any connection to that?

Some other issues I looked into from my comment on that post yesterday:

“Michael owns Elvis songs that maybe Priscilla believes should be in the Graceland Library.  Maybe LMP believes that too.” – Branca has known since 1985 at least what was in that ATV catalog.  Michael said he asked Branca about Lisa Marie when she was eighteen (he would have been 28) making it circa 1986 or 1987, one to one and a half years after the purchase.  Maybe owning the Elvis songs reminded Michael of Lisa and he began inquiring?  

Michael Jackson in Bucharest

Michael says that John Branca would laugh and say, “I’ll do my best”, Michael asked “any luck” when he saw Branca again and Branca would say “Nothing yet.”  Either John Branca didn’t bother, John Branca didn’t really represent Priscilla like he told Michael he did, or  . . . Branca was a bit consumed with other plans and getting Michael hooked up with a girlfriend was the least of them.

Lisa Marie in that same video, which Michael corroborates, that they dated for four months before they got married or before Michael asked her.  Since Michael hadn’t “crumbled” during the first allegations, the humiliating search and seizure of person and property, criminal harassment via pictures of his anatomy with lawyers and doctors on both sides present, the pursuit of “victims” across continents hadn’t done him in emotionally, he was still performing heart stopping concerts.  Isn’t the timing immaculate that John could finally get Michael hooked up with Lisa Marie?  Good for Lisa Marie . . . she comes out from under cover, Michael promises record deals for her but it never materializes because, that is not in the plan. 

So Lisa spends most of their marriage fighting with Michael about having children, about going on vacations with her ex-boyfriend, about her children flocking to Michael instead of her, about his friends, about the time he spends with OTHER children and whatever else.

She leaves Danny for Michael (she says) even though they have children.

She continues to vacation with Danny - with her children - without Michael.

She refuses to give Michael children after luring him into marriage with false hope of him having children (coached?)

She makes Michael's life miserable, jealous of her own children getting attention from Michael, etc....

Finally Michael tells her Debbie Rowe offered to have children for him. She doesn't seem to care until AFTER they are divorced.

Who left who?  There was a "dear John" letter passed around the the internet said to be a divorce letter from Michael to Lisa.  I did find this when looking:

“Btw, that leech, Henry Vaccaro (the guy who got MJ's storage warehouse of personal belongings), stated that one of the things in storage was a handwritten note from Michael to Lisa explaining why he wanted an annulment. I find this very interesting. This guy also claimed to have a copy of a letter from Katherine Jackson to the Jehovah's Witness with harsh words since they expelled MJ . I think Lisa Marie really thought MJ loved her and after the divorce felt she was used by him.”  Source 

I have seen this handwritten note back during the first couple of months after Michael died, but I have not been able to find it since and I did not keep a copy of it.  I was not researching this back then, I was still just getting to know Michael through study.  If anyone else has this, a link to it or managed to copy it when it was online, please let  me know.

Some beautiful person who reads this blog had the letter FROM MICHAEL to Lisa.  He mentions unwelcome threats, behavior and  and pressure from the Presley Family:

Michael in 2008

Let’s look at Lisa’s behavior over the years in interviews.  This interview below is after she and Michael divorced.

Lisa Marie with Diane Sawyer WITHOUT Michael

This interview is with Oprah some twelve years after the divorce.

She was 36 in this video according to her own timeline (12 years ago from the time she married Michael at 24 or 25 years of age).  The first couple of minutes was enough to turn my stomach.  Loving?  Mocking . . . can’t get any further apart than that.  She doesn’t look nervous.  She looks vindictive and Oprah is a disgrace.

At 1.50 Lisa Marie says that someone convinced her that she should meet Michael because it was “good manners”.  I wonder who THAT person was?  (Branca maybe?)  Especially since she went ahead and plugged her “demo” and that Michael wanted to “sign her”.  So someone had to convince her to meet Michael.  She goes on to explain that Michael had to “disillusion” her and “loop” her into changing her mind about what she may have thought about him previously (she then emphasizes “used to”).  At 7:30 Lisa Marie says she did NOT know Michael was going to kiss her on the awards show and that Michael was the one that “used her” not the other way around.  

So we heard what Lisa had to say about Michael in various interviews.  What did Michael have to say about Lisa Marie?

Michael talks on the Schmuley tapes about "manipulative women" and also discusses women who are in 'competition with their own children" . . . Lisa Marie. 

According to Michael, Lisa Marie DID try to get back with him in the early months after their divorce (job not done yet?  Doesn't have catalog yet?) but Michael refuses.  Lisa then uses her children to try to get back with Michael . . . Michael entertains Lisa because of her children NOT because of her.

Throught these YEARS that Lisa Marie says she flew all around the world with Michael, her and her mother are trashing Michael in interviews.  Michael never, ever trashed Lisa Marie . . . never.  For someone who "didn't know any better" as Lisa put it, Michael has let the guilty walk themselves into their own, self-created lies.  

One of Michael's True Friends - Elizabeth Taylor

2005, she was nowhere to be found for the trial. Debbie Rowe was.  Even Frank DiLeo showed up for Michael’s trial.  Lisa was busy mocking him on Larry King.  She laughs and says she’s benign? 

She says Michael called HER in 2005.  I don't believe this.  After what we’ve seen, can YOU believe it?  Michael would not have wanted her back after what she did.  Michael was not devoid of intelligence, he avoided her during her attempts to get him back.  Why?  Maybe he saw those interviews too?  There is over ten years spanned in these interviews in which Lisa treats Michael as a joke and we’re expected to believe her sudden “maturity” after he dies?  Worse, yet, she wants us to believe that after all that, MICHAEL calls her and wants her back after being treated as a joke by her?  And to top all that off with sugary bullpuckies, we’re expected to believe a long conversation ensued while making him cry by telling him she was indifferent.  Who is it that has the drug problem here?

She mentions the catalog and Michael saying people wanted to kill him but does so in an offhanded manner . . . maybe to make fans believe that the conversation took place.  She mentions Michael crying when she says she's indifferent.  If this really happened and she EVER loved him, where is the emotion on her face?

She fidgets through this whole interview, cannot hold a gaze unless Oprah is asking HER a question or doing the talking.  And the reaction to the question about what she was thinking when she looked down at the casket. Take a close look at that again.  She LAUGHS then quickly composes herself and gives this broken, scratching the head “that uh . . . ummm that, took me . . . another six months to recover from.”

Sure Lisa . . . we believe you.  And I have a number one album coming out too.  It’s titled “Try it with ONE Face”.

Michael Crying during Concert...

Lady Acquarius shared this on the previous blog:

“THANK YOU!!! (Big hugz too.) You have just echoed my entire reasoning for why this recent interview has made me heartsick. In soooo many ways, I feel that Michael's proverbial "last straw" in the trust department when it came to women can certainly be directly pointed in Lisa Marie's direction. Even worse, because like I'd stated earlier, Michael was NOT one to allow his heart to override his head, it IS extremely likely that this is also the source of LMP's true bitterness. Not only did Michael "ice" her out, he NEVER let her back in either!”

“I have trouble believing the legitimacy of the supposed 2005 phone conversation too. Why? I remember LaToya having stated in a past interview where she was asked about LMP and Michael, that the ONLY reason why LMP was still allowed to accompany Michael here and there was due to their appearances being booked (via appointments) prior to their divorce.”

“But, also noteworthy... LaToya had also claimed that there marriage was NOT for love. was a business agreement, in return LMP would be helped launch her own career. I don't know what to think of that part though. LaToya HAS been known to stretch truths and tell "whoppers", so I don't know if that part can be believed. I believe this interview is still on YT somewhere.”

“In any case, what if Michael had believed his relationship was "real" but LMP was only going along with things due to a contract with Branca and/or Sony??? Worse... did Michael eventually "catch on" to the BS??? Hmm...”

“One more thing, the Michael tapes, Michael also states, "Lisa knows her own mind." He says little else about her. He seemed more emotionally animated while discussing Brooke Shields than he did LMP! WHY, if there was oh so much love between them? Hmm...”

From Anapassionheart posted by Truthbtold -
“That aired on 10/10/2006. Lisa and her husband Michael flew to Graceland from Hawaii just to open Graceland for a private Oprah tour and gave her what seemed to be complete access to all Elvis' vaulted private collection. It's location is so secret that Lisa Marie would not allow the camera to show us where it was. But Oprah and her crew can know. She lays out a big buffet of Elvis' favorite foods for Oprah. They sit around Elvis' table where nobody but family has eaten since he died. Oprah reveals that it really is true that her grandmother was a Presley.”

Posted by SandyK found on AllForLove Blog–
“Interviews like this, in which family members and people close to him like Lisa Marie, continue to feed into the “drug addict” line, can ultimately affect the trial’s outcome if enough people come to believe that Murray was simply a pawn in Michael’s own addiction and downward spiral. And yes, interviews like this can be entered as evidence, if the defense requests it and the judge grants it!"

Lisa Marie and Oprah – Oprah gets the Graceland Tour

Lisa Marie with David Letterman

Lisa Marie on Channeling her father.  Part 3 of the Larry King Interview

Lisa Marie laughs toward the end of this when asked if she can feel her father’s spirit.  Lisa Marie laughs and says they are getting into controversial territory, then says she doesn’t want to answer.

Oddly enough, someone whom I really don’t consider the epitome of honesty either, emails someone in 2007 about her experiences with Lisa Marie.

Conversations on Lisa Marie, pro and con here – They are also posting links to You tube videos.  Source 

Far be it from me to trust Karen Faye at this point, after defending the stalkers, but if it were not for Michael saying this himself on the Schmuley tapes (he doesn’t name Lisa Marie, only refers to a woman who is jealous of her own children, and manipulative women).  At the source is a copy of an email supposedly sent to someone by Karen Faye in April of 2007.  Source

Lady Acquarius, on top of this one, also posted this:

This is regarding my previous posting about what Karen Faye had written in an email about LMP. Unfortunately, this is what happens when Karen Faye gets caught in her own BS stew...

@wingheart Karen, there has been some HATEFUL comments that you've made about LMP going around, can you confirm if you wrote them or not? about 5 hours ago via web

@wingheart Alright, but can you confirm if you wrote this or not? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Well, can you confirm it? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart The hateful comments you've made about LMP have been going around since'd be great if you'd finally confirm/deny them.. about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Yes, but when I read those comments, they just make you look like a huge hypocrite. (no offense) about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Okay, but is it true that you hated LMP at one point? Going as far as saying "Lisa Marie is a very evil little girl." (excerpt) about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart The excerpts also said MJ was the most miserable man ever when he was married to LMP & she was horrible to him. Is THAT true? about 4 hours ago via web

@wingheart Oh my goodness, I'd just like a nice yes or no. Not a game at all, why are you becoming so defensive? So, they must be true then? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

Karen's responses...

@InfinityFusion I did say things I believed to be true. But once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand things more clearly about 5 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion no I can't, I have not read what is being passed around. I do not intend to either. I am not interested in this fan game. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became close about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion People change when they can open up and see the bigger picture. If you call that hypocritical, I really don't care. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion I call it "enlightened" about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet ;) about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion what part don't you understand about: I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY YOUR FAN GAME about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion 

These are the links to the screen shots in case that “twitlonger” post disappears. Thank you again Ladyaquarius.

Another interview in “Rolling Stone” compliments of Johanna’s link posted by Ladyacquarius.  Source

It is important to read the comments on this blog here because there are some very good links there, discussion on Michael’s licensing of an Elvis song in a Viagra commercial and more. This blog update is now eight Word pages.  I have to move and I will not be able to post another blog update probably until we are moved in and that will not be until next week.

I may do a short one on the issue of Branca not paying Katherine Jackson since that was also brought to my attention but my husband’s patience is wearing thin and we are starting to bark at each other. Thank God we can look each other in the face and laugh when we realize what we are doing.  I am lucky.

I wish Michael had been.  It hurts to know he was not.

Lisa Marie, I honestly do not know what to say to you.  I had hoped you were a friend.  I had hoped you had loved Michael . . . as much as you could.  And I did try lady, but I saw no evidence that you even know what that is, even now with four children.  You have spent the majority of your time bashing Michael in the media.  In the process you have leveled yourself with the likes of Taraborrelli, Friedman, Sawyer, Bashir and any number of tabloids out there.

Did it make you feel better?  Was mocking him during the most painful and frightful time of his life fulfilling of  your need for satisfaction?  Is it your style to kick someone when they are down and crawling on their knees in the process of getting up?

Know Lisa Marie, that this is ONLY my opinion based on everything I have seen in your interviews and heard come out of your mouth.  I was once your ally, but my opinion of you has crashed completely through the floor.

I don’t expect you to pay any attention or care about what I think.  After all, you cared not how one of the most giving, gracious and loving men I have ever studied thought about your actions, why should you care about mine?

A tip for you . . . free.  Michael sold records because he didn’t have to go on talk shows, bashing ex-spouses for attention.  Michael sold records because people love him.  People LOVE him because his actions spoke much louder than his words.  It’s the heart that comes through and yours my friend, needs a lot of work.  I tried finding heart in you.  I wanted you to have been a good person.  I wanted for ONCE to know that someone loved Michael back.  Unfortunately for Michael, it wasn’t you.

I am glad this is the last blog for a while because this one about killed me.  When the truth comes out . . . if it ever does in my lifetime, I hope Michael’s children never have to hear the things Lisa Marie said about their father.  And I hope Lisa Marie’s children never hear it either, since they seemed to adore him as much as Michael’s fans.

God Bless you Michael  Whatever Happens

To the One's Who Loved you Unconditionally . . . God . . .

And The Children . . .

Friday, October 22, 2010

Oprah on Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie

October 22, 2010 – Michael Jackson – Interpreting Lisa Marie

I have tried so hard not to be unkind to Lisa Marie while dissecting this interview.  I really did.  I watched this interview all the way through. Then I went back and watched again, stopping at points to note and record Lisa’s facial expressions, her body language, voice inflection, her eyes and the questions that were asked and answered.

Before this interview, I had not really watched any of Lisa Marie in the past.  I had to go back and watch other interviews she took part in (a previous Oprah interview, a Diane Sawyer interview with Michael for example) and I have to tell you, I have never been so disappointed in someone in my life.  I have no doubt that Michael did love Lisa.  However, try as I did, I did not see this same affection for Michael from Lisa Marie. 

I noticed nervousness with Lisa, I noticed a bit of bitterness, I saw and heard uneasiness and discomfort and aloofness.  I did not see love and I did not see compassion or empathy.  There was coldness in her face and her eyes.  Remember “The Nothing” in the “Neverending Story”?  If there was such a thing, I saw that in Lisa’s face.

Lisa Marie said she was selling an album in the first part of the interview.  How nice for her.  If her music holds the same spirit as her interview, I don’t predict an inspirational piece of work.

I have a completely different view of Lisa Marie Presley since this Oprah interview, which prompted me to view other interviews she’s given.  I have one question for her . . . What happened to your soul?  Where did you put it?  Because it most certainly is not with you.  Did Sony promise you license to your father’s songs in exchange for this self-contradicting interview?

You know what hurts the most?  Knowing that Michael LOVED this person, and THIS is what he got in return!   Thanks a lot Lisa!  I hope Michael’s fans do the same for your album in return!

As far as Oprah goes we can thank her for one thing . . . revealing who Lisa Marie really is.

Lisa Marie and Oprah

Part 1

In part one we are catching up with Lisa Marie. She has two adorable twin girls (very cute), which I did not know and she is married and was married when the news broke out about Michael dying.  In this first segment, she is asked about the marriage to Michael, if it was real and if she felt any differently about her relationship with Michael after his death. 

Lisa used the words “clarity” and “moment of clarity” often.  I also noticed that she as a bit uptight and nervous at the beginning of the interview. She had difficulty looking directly at Oprah when answering questions about the relationship.   This is the segment in which Lisa Marie mentions Michael’s manipulation of the press and his “creating” and that being the reason that she was unsure of where she stood in the relationship with him . . . as if she wasn’t sure if Michael’s affections for her were “manipulation” and she was part of that.

She touches on the drugs here also toward the end of part one, but I was disturbed watching her because she was very fidgety.  She “thought” that Michael’s collapse during the HBO special “may” have been drug related. This is when she began moving around in the chair, folding and unfolding her arms.   Oprah would press about the skin injections and what they were for and Lisa Marie stumbled over Michael’s various skin ailments he was treated for and ‘other various’ issues.  I wasn’t sure if she was uncomfortable talking about Michael’s health issues, or if she was uncomfortable saying something she wasn’t sure to be true.  She said the hospital wouldn’t give her a straight answer and that every day it was different.

This made me angry because she rambled through “Dehydration, low blood pressure, exhaustion, virus” like it would be abnormal for doctors to take time figuring out just why Michael collapsed.   Michael had collapsed for these reasons before.  He didn’t eat or maintain his fluids properly when on tour, he has said that many, many times.  She also stated that she would pick him up from a doctors office and at times he was not “coherent”.  Why was Lisa turning this into a drug issue? 

I smiled when I heard her talking about Michael “piddling around” the room at night when he couldn’t sleep and how it was kind of “endearing” to her.  I could imagine that.  I could actually see it in my mind’s eye.  She said he did have a hard time sleeping and that it was sometimes hard for her to sleep if he was up and wandering around.  I continued listening to the end of part one.

Part 2

Here Lisa Marie continues with the “role of taking care of him” and how normal the marriage was when they were united and together on the people around him.    She said she didn’t so much like the attention on her, but loved being next to him (not hard to imagine that sentiment).   

Oprah then asked her about Lisa’s “Highest highs” during the taking care of him, she wanted to know what the “lowest lows” were.  Here Lisa kind of pushes that into the background in favor of remembering the good things.  She stated that she felt she understood him more now then she ever did and she didn’t know why all this had to happen for her to realize that.  (Many also echo her sentiments here), then Oprah presses her more about the anger.  I did not believe Lisa’s statement here.  It sounded scripted.

Josie contributed this:  “On her Oprah interview with her mother she said she had No Idea MJ was going to kiss her in public at the MTV Award show.

Now, in this 2010 interview, she said she knew about the Kiss and was nervous about it. But she Knew About The Kiss all along!”

Here Lisa says that when the marriage ended she was very angry, “so angry” and she said that at some point he (Michael) pushed her out.    I found myself again getting angry because she explains the cause of the “pushing away” that Michael did was because of the drugs and the people surrounding him.  I know less about this time of his life then I do the latter part of his life so I continued with the interview, but I have to tell you I was getting angry.  I don’t know if it was the emphasis on drugs she kept trying to make or if it was her body language as she was speaking.

Michael and Lisa Marie

As Lisa Marie continued speaking about the “sycophants” in his life and how she felt disposable, she made reference to the “parallels” between what happened to her father and what happened to Michael.  When she said she didn’t understand why she had to go through it twice, she said it with a certain sense of detachment.  Her father I can understand was years ago, but with Michael, it was only last year.

Oprah further on, asks Lisa Marie if there was a part of her that did not want to see the truth in regard to her and Michael.  Lisa asks, “The truth in what way”, and Oprah leans over with this dramatized gaze, hand up on chin and says, “The truth about the drugs.”  I wanted to say, “Woman, let’s talk about the REAL truth here!  Let’s talk about the TRUTH about the industry in which you belong, working so hard twisting people’s lives around stakes before you burn them!  Let’s talk about what YOU DID to an innocent man  and LET’S TALK  ABOUT your obsession with running shows about Pedophiles right after interviews about Michael Jackson!”  And Lisa plays right into this.

Did either of these two women READ the autopsy report?  Oprah, we know you and Sony practically have carnal knowledge of each other (which would explain why she and Stedman never worked out).   Perhaps you could practice a little subtlety because that condescending gripping-the-chin thing just isn’t cutting it!

9:46 on part 2, the first of several contradictions (aside from the drugs) rears its ugly head.   Oprah asks Lisa Marie where Michael asked her to marry him.  She says in front of the fireplace, in the library at Neverland and she THINKS he got on his knees and proposed (she THINKS.  Lady if you cannot remember HOW Michael Jackson proposed to you, you are more self-involved that most thought!)  However in a previous interview with Diane Sawyer , Lisa Marie said Michael proposed to her over the phone and that is even documented on Wikipedia by a third party.  At 2:08 on this video you can hear both Michael and Lisa say that proposal was over the telephone.

At 11:43 on part two and after a lovely glimpse of part of the “You are Not Alone” video with Michael and Lisa Marie, Oprah asks Lisa if there was a lot of pressure for her to have a baby.  I watched her face intently as she talked about this.  Lisa’s response was that there was a lot of pressure from the time they got married.  She said she did want to, but was afraid of future custody battles and she didn’t want to go “head to head” with him.  This sounds disingenuous coming from someone who earlier in the interview stated that she did believe they were going to be married for keeps.  This story also contradicts her “I got outta that one” in a magazine interview and the “I thought he was too immature be a father” interview, which is also mentioned on Wikipedia

Next Oprah brings up the divorce.  She then asks Lisa how she felt when four months later, she finds out that Debbie Rowe is pregnant.  Lisa Marie explains this as a retaliatory act “on his part”.  So now Lisa Marie reduces Michael’s long desire to have children to an act of revenge?  Lisa Marie . . . you were divorced.  You told him you didn’t want to have children.  Michael discussed CRYING about that in previous interviews.  Are you telling us now that the only reason Michael had children was to get back at you?  This sounds more like something YOU would do, not Michael.  (breathe, doggone it!  Breathe!!!)

Michael, wherever you are, I am sure you now can see the BLESSING in disguise her answer was.   Oprah then offers that this is what Lisa Marie meant when she said she felt “disposable” because Michael would tell her that Debbie Rowe would do this for him.

{{{Let’s hypothesize here for a minute.  Let’s assume that aside from the reasons Lisa Marie gave for telling Michael to take a flying leap when he wanted to have children (after all, she already had children, why should she bother to make her husband happy), the facts are basically what she says.  Lisa Marie says “&*$%^#$ no, I’m not having your children”,  Michael begs her for the first mmmmm, let’s say six months or so that they are married and finally a few months before they divorce, Michael pours out his heart to his dermatologist, who has pretty much been one of the few steady people in Michael’s life.  Debbie Rowe, the nurse there, hears Michael or hears about Michael’s problem and tells Michael, “Well if she won’t I will”. (We’ve heard this happened from other sources.) 

Michael tells Lisa, “Look, I want children.  If you won’t be my wife, someone else will.”  Considering Lisa Marie’s privileged upbringing, she should totally understand this tactic.  I’m not sure Michael even worded it this way, but if he did, GOOD FOR HIM!}}}

Contributed from Josie again:  "Her not wanting to give MJ children ALSO played a big part in their Divorce, but she doesn't say this.   Only that she didn't want kids from MJ for fear of a Custody Battle later on.”

Lisa talked about Michael not understanding Lisa’s first husband going on vacation with them. (truth be told I didn’t understand that either.  My ex-husband does not go on vacation with me and we also had two children together.)  She told Oprah that if Michael felt uncomfortable or vulnerable, he would “ice you out”.  She said, “he would push you away and ice you out.”

Lisa . . . psychology 101 . . . People do that when someone is hurting them.  I was an expert at it when I was a child. That is called a DEFENSE MECHANISM.   I’ve seen Lisa’s face and I can tell you that is where the ice is.

Part 3

At the start of part 3, Lisa Marie is finishing her explanation of Michael’s insistence of “his-way-or-the-highway” or you were “out”.    Michael, according to his songs that he wrote as early as 1991 (before Lisa Marie) knew what was going on or just beginning to understand the surface of what was going on around him in regard to his music and the catalog.  He was not yet aware of Branca and his own then accountants, but his lyrics reflect some form of awareness.

She also states that four years after the divorce they still traveled or flew around the world to see each other.  This despite that Michael was married to Debbie Rowe?  There is nothing mentioned in the press about this (they would have been all over it) and Lisa Marie doesn’t even mention Michael’s children if this at all happened.  I find this very odd.  I also noticed that Lisa Marie was not among the invitees to the Jackson house, but Debbie Rowe was.  Just an observation.

Lisa Marie talks about Michael calling her in 2005 to “throw out a line” and feel her out as to where she was.  She doesn’t say if this is before, during or after the trial, but according to her recollection of the conversation, it could have very well been after the trial.  Michael is getting ready to leave the country or is making plans to.  Michael is mentally cohesive enough to discuss with Lisa Marie where she is and if she still loves him.  She then, without any tears or hesitation, tells Oprah that she told Michael she was “indifferent”, that Michael said he didn’t like that word, and that Michael cried.    Someone as dynamic as Michael, that she was married to, that she realized how much she loved him after he died (like many of us) and she talks about hurting him and making him cry like she just told him no, no cookies before dinner.

Michael Jackson Crucified - Lisa Marie Coddled

Something weird happens in this video at 4:04.  There is a break right before it, and then Oprah’s voice begins asking Lisa Marie about her standing at the casket, and almost right as she says “casket” this very deep, male voice says lightly “weigh” or “weight” in a low, baratone.  I went back over this seven or eight times and I cannot make out what it is or where the voice comes from.  Tell me you hear it, please!

Next, Oprah just has to ask the question . . . again, for the infinitively obnoxious number of times, “Did you see Michael do anything inappropriate with children.” 

Oprah . . . DID YOU?  Nobody ever has!  Got that?  Not ANYONE YOU’VE EVER INTERVIEWED ABOUT MICHAEL SINCE 1993!  If this fetish of yours is that intrusive then please . . . by ALL means call Roman Polanski and interview HIM on your show if that is the ONLY way you will EVER exercise this DEMON of yours!  Please!  How much did Sony pay you for THAT question?

Lisa Marie then says that during the Bashir documentary, MJ was either High or Sedated during that interview.   That is a crock.  I saw a Michael in pain.  I saw a Michael that was on the defensive and I saw a Michael was trying to joke around with someone he really did not know.  I saw a hesitant trust but I also got a sense that Michael was drawing himself tight for a blow he suspected may be coming. That is honestly what I got out of Michael’s demeanor during that whole documentary.  Could Michael have been drugged during part of it?  Certainly possible, considering who his “pals” were at the time.  Lisa Marie was right about one thing.  There were vultures around him, picking at him constantly even though he was still alive.  Lisa Marie also takes a lot of liberties in comparing Michael to her father.  Lisa Marie was nine years old when her father died.  Just how much did Elvis allow his daughter to witness his drug taking?  I just can’t picture that.  Lisa Marie lived with her mother most of the time.

Again, Oprah mentions Michael saying during the Bashir interview that it was okay to sleep with young children.  Oprah, you are disgusting.  Someone should have you investigated.  You talk about this so much one has to wonder how much you really wanted this to be true.  The obsession is bordering on criminal.  What kind of magazines do you have in YOUR house?

Lisa’s answers here were admirable in that she describes Michael as defiant, angry about the accusations which prompted him to say (paraphrased) “Yeah, I had children in my room . . . lots of them . . . at one time!  And we threw popcorn at each other and had a pillow fight.  So what!”  She also does describe the “manipulative and nasty” way in which the documentary was edited to do what was done to Michael.

Oprah asking Lisa Marie about what it felt like to stand next to his casket during the private funeral, Lisa Marie’s reaction was in a word . . . weird.  Just weird.  She scratches her head and says . . . “that was . . . uhmmmmm, that was . . . another . . . . six months to recover from.”  I guess indifferent is still a word she wants Michael to remember.  I don’t understand that answer, the reaction or the body language at all.  Bereaving?  Not a description I can even stretch to give to her. 

Michael’s Note found at Neverland During Raid . . . No Addictive Drugs

Again, toward the end of the interview, the issue of drugs and if Lisa Marie could have stopped it or saved him.  I want to know just what it is these two women think they are selling us.

The autopsy report listed no drugs.  For a human being that was SUPPOSEDLY high all the time during the eight months the Bashir interview was shot, and for the suggestion they want to put forth that drug abuse killed him, where is the evidence of this, Lisa Marie, Oprah, in the autopsy report ?  Where was all the damage that would have had to be evident to his body after a 20 year drug binge???  His organs were in good condition. The ONLY THING they found was what that DOCTOR GAVE HIM INTRAVENOUSLY that night. And what KILLED HIM was the Propofol! 

Just what is the motive here for this interview?   Because I can tell you, love?  Not there!  Indifference?  Detachment?  Yes it is there.

I also caught the rest of that Diane Sawyer interview posted above . . . does it strike anyone as odd that Michael himself said that he asked BRANCA to get in touch with Lisa Marie in 1993?    Just another thought.  Everything that guy seemed to touch pre-humously concerning Michael turned to crap.

They closed the interview laughing after Lisa Marie said this was the last one she was doing about Michael.  The only thing missing from this interview what the “high-five”.

Fine if you want to move on.  But the sincerity left a lot to be desired.

I felt physically ill after watching this interview.  The only thing Lisa Marie defended Michael on was the child molestation issue and the Bashir documentary in relation to that subject.  I had a hard time believing there was any affection from Lisa’s in regard to Michael.  Completely unconvincing.

Oprah’s questions were textbook tabloid.  Lisa’s answers could have been typed out from Sony Pictures Studios . . . here . . .say this, and say this, defend him here, but push the drug thing and don’t forget to use your father as a comparison.  Yes, that is exactly how I felt watching this.  Charitable of me?  No it is not and I admit it.  Lisa Marie lied.  Why?   She lost any integrity with me with the first mention of the drugs and then when she couldn’t even remember where and how Michael proposed to her.  It was a deliberate lie and considering the complete disrespect in adding the “on the knee” thing.  I have to wonder if she can’t even remember how Michael proposed to her just 17 short years ago, just who it is that needs to be tested for drugs?

The purpose of this interview is one of two:

  1. Oprah and Lisa Marie needed to sell the “drug addict” story to the public to cover someone’s a**.

  1. Oprah covertly exposes Lisa Marie as the selfish, soul-less narcissist she is to the rest of the world in preparation for the TRUTH that will come out during her interview with Miss Katherine.

I would HOPE number 2, but on this planet unfortunately, I vote for it being number 1.


I will be amending this interview as I get time.  I am in the middle of a relocation out of state, and trying to get these blog updates in on newsworthy interviews in a timely manner is becoming difficult.  I want to be fair and I am allowing those who see things I  miss or don't cover enough on this particular interview to provide feedback.  It is important enough to take the extra time to go back over this interview with that in mind.

Anyhow, please forgive me.  I'm not trying to be quick to judge.  I wrote this while still angry and like I said, the information I am getting in from a few friends is important and I want to review this interview again with that in mind.

This is why your CONSTRUCTIVE feedback is so important.

One of the issues brought to light is the editing done with these interviews, someone pointed out three camera's and some initial reactions from Lisa Marie not caught on certain questions . . . very important things like that in which I am missing because I'm rushing due to lack of time (thank you Hope, Spotlight, Simo and CathyL . . . all of you).   I love you for caring and for the very sweet and tender way you let me know some of the parts of the interview that need more of our attention.

God Bless You . . . and Lisa Marie, wherever you are out there, please lend me your patience.  I don't agree with you, but you deserve a fair review on this interview. 

Just to give you an idea of the PRESSURE my husband is putting on me now this move is upon us.  I have NOT helped him much until this weekend SOOOOOO, I wanted to share with you what my husband LEFT me in my email this morning . . .

I woke up one morning and THIS is how I found my wife . . . .
I was rolling when I saw this!  Message Recieved, LOL!

Michael Jackson Victim of Indifference