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Michael Jackson Justice: Lisa Marie’s Mom Shared Michael’s Ex-Lawyer?

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Monday, October 25, 2010

Lisa Marie’s Mom Shared Michael’s Ex-Lawyer?

October 25, 2010 – Lisa Marie’s Mom Shared Michael’s Ex-Lawyer?




Today is the 16-month anniversary of the passing away of Michael Jackson.  It is also the last day for a while I will be able to put up a blog.  To leave it like THIS breaks my heart.

I did what I said I was going to do.  I went back over the interview with Oprah and Lisa Marie . . . SEVERAL times.  I did what someone else suggested I do and study Lisa the way I did Michael.  Well, I did.  It not only managed to cement my feelings from my initial post, it added even more dread in the pit of my stomach.   I am really starting to become afraid to investigate. 

Lisa Marie Presley, in the minds of many of Michael’s fans, was the one true love he had but it never was.  At least not on her part.  I have tried every which way but loose to see it (even tried loose) and I tried and I tried.  I can’t do any more because what I am seeing HURTS.  The more I dug the darker I felt inside and if Michael believed there was love there in the beginning, I cannot imagine the pain he was in.

There have been so many fantastic responses from both sides of this issue and a learning experience.  I agree that we should be FAIR when investigating all this and I feel that I have been even when attacked, or tried my hardest to be.  What is important to remember is that Michael is at the core of all this.  This isn’t about Lisa Marie.  Michael was the one murdered.  Michael’s children are the ones without their father.  Lisa Marie has her children, her “new” Michael and her upcoming album.

I’ve looked at this from the angle of a very young girl, sheltered and possibly spoiled not really knowing marriage. But you don’t do the things she has done just out of ignorance or immaturity.  She did things to deliberately hurt.  The more videos of her I saw, the more my heart fell.  Starting from my comment yesterday after viewing a couple of these videos:

“In the Diane Sawyer interview with BOTH LISA MARIE AND MICHAEL . . . they are asked WHO popped the question . . . who brought up marriage?”

“Both say, "Michael". Then Michael continues with this story of how he asked his lawyer THEN JOHN BRANCA if he knew Lisa Marie Presley. MICHEAL THEN SAYS, "John says, well I represent her mother Priscilla".

“Elvis Songs are in the catalog that Michael owned!”

“Now MICHAEL may have believed that it was his idea . . . but lets look at what Lisa has said:”

“She LEFT DANNY FOR MICHAEL . . even with children. Why?”

“She refused to have children with Michael. Why?”

“She still maintains family with Danny and fought with Michael over her vacationing with her ex husband. Why? Who iced who out?”

“She says she left the marriage but then she follows him around and writes him letters afterwards . . . why? Because she loved him or because he still owned the Elvis songs? “

“She didn't seem to care that Debbie was going to give him children before they split. After they split then she chases him down. Michael may have entertained her (because of her children), but I think he was quite done or they would have been back together.”

“I do not believe the 2005 conversation happened. I believe that was said for the benefit of fans and to maybe throw out a jab for anyone close to Michael who was listening.”

“In the Schmuley interviews, Michael also talks about how manipulative women are. He wasn't around his brothers long enough to see all this happening although he could have, but what if he were talking about LMP?”

Branca, according to Michael, is the connecting factor to Priscilla Presley if not Lisa Marie. Source
 

Above, Michael talks about John Branca, asking him about Lisa Marie and Branca’s response that he represented Priscilla.  Let’s look at these claims.

John Branca’s own website mentions nothing about either Priscilla Presley or the Presley Estate (I was told it was once on there, but now it is off).  He may have represented Priscilla . . . she was an actress.  But I dont' see him anywhere involved in the estate: 

Elvis Presley Estate has been removed as a client AS HAS JACKSON ESTATE IS NO LONGER THERE.
http://www.johnbranca.com/artist-representation  His client list is here.  Notice that the “Cobain Estate” the one reportedly handled by Howard Weitzman (not of Branca’s firm) is now credited to Branca.  Cobain’s estate also went through a lawsuit until Courtney Love suddenly withdrew the complaint.
Did Branca lie to Michael?  Where his wheels spinning when Michael mentioned an interest in Lisa Marie?  Michael said he said this to Branca when Lisa Marie was about eighteen years old.  Michael would have been 28 years old.  So circa 1986 to 1987.  This is a year or so after Michael purchased the catalog.  Branca knew it contained Elvis songs, he’s the one that did the deal.
Could Branca have found a way to contact Priscilla (assuming that he lied to Michael about representing her when Michael asked about LMP), Priscilla Presley appears nowhere on John Branca’s Dossier of artists represented.
I did searches on links for the Presley Estate and guess what . . . Neither Branca nor his firm are listed for either Presley Estate, Presley Trust or the newer formed Elvis Presley Enterprises:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley_Enterprises Here also, no mention of Branca or his firm.  But he's not connected with the estate and neither is his firm.  The only place I have seen this is on Branca's web site and Branca could have put it on there because he worked with PRISCILLA, which would be disingenuous at best.

Branca - He wasn't a lawyer all that long before he started representing Michael and he was still a relative newbie.  This is who represented and handled the Presley Trust - http://www.elvis.com/elvisology/history/elvis_estate.asp   Branca is only a few years older than Michael.  I don't see Branca mentioned anywhere in there. 

However, I found this,  Lisa Marie sold 85% of her father’s estate for $100 milllion (not counting Graceland) in 2005, announcement was made in December of the previous year.  Source.  Why was this done?  Aside from Graceland, that is control of trademarks, licensing, film rights, merchandising.   She still owns 15% but that is not controlling share.  She got according to the article a little over $50 million cash out of the deal, $25 million in debts paid off and where the other $25 million went is not mentioned.  What was going on in 2005?  Michael’s trial.  December of 2004 it was reported on as being in the works.  Right over the trial . . . why?  Any connection to that?

Some other issues I looked into from my comment on that post yesterday:

“Michael owns Elvis songs that maybe Priscilla believes should be in the Graceland Library.  Maybe LMP believes that too.” – Branca has known since 1985 at least what was in that ATV catalog.  Michael said he asked Branca about Lisa Marie when she was eighteen (he would have been 28) making it circa 1986 or 1987, one to one and a half years after the purchase.  Maybe owning the Elvis songs reminded Michael of Lisa and he began inquiring?  

Michael Jackson in Bucharest


Michael says that John Branca would laugh and say, “I’ll do my best”, Michael asked “any luck” when he saw Branca again and Branca would say “Nothing yet.”  Either John Branca didn’t bother, John Branca didn’t really represent Priscilla like he told Michael he did, or  . . . Branca was a bit consumed with other plans and getting Michael hooked up with a girlfriend was the least of them.

Lisa Marie in that same video, which Michael corroborates, that they dated for four months before they got married or before Michael asked her.  Since Michael hadn’t “crumbled” during the first allegations, the humiliating search and seizure of person and property, criminal harassment via pictures of his anatomy with lawyers and doctors on both sides present, the pursuit of “victims” across continents hadn’t done him in emotionally, he was still performing heart stopping concerts.  Isn’t the timing immaculate that John could finally get Michael hooked up with Lisa Marie?  Good for Lisa Marie . . . she comes out from under cover, Michael promises record deals for her but it never materializes because, that is not in the plan. 

So Lisa spends most of their marriage fighting with Michael about having children, about going on vacations with her ex-boyfriend, about her children flocking to Michael instead of her, about his friends, about the time he spends with OTHER children and whatever else.

She leaves Danny for Michael (she says) even though they have children.

She continues to vacation with Danny - with her children - without Michael.

She refuses to give Michael children after luring him into marriage with false hope of him having children (coached?)

She makes Michael's life miserable, jealous of her own children getting attention from Michael, etc....

Finally Michael tells her Debbie Rowe offered to have children for him. She doesn't seem to care until AFTER they are divorced.

Who left who?  There was a "dear John" letter passed around the the internet said to be a divorce letter from Michael to Lisa.  I did find this when looking:

“Btw, that leech, Henry Vaccaro (the guy who got MJ's storage warehouse of personal belongings), stated that one of the things in storage was a handwritten note from Michael to Lisa explaining why he wanted an annulment. I find this very interesting. This guy also claimed to have a copy of a letter from Katherine Jackson to the Jehovah's Witness with harsh words since they expelled MJ . I think Lisa Marie really thought MJ loved her and after the divorce felt she was used by him.”  Source 

I have seen this handwritten note back during the first couple of months after Michael died, but I have not been able to find it since and I did not keep a copy of it.  I was not researching this back then, I was still just getting to know Michael through study.  If anyone else has this, a link to it or managed to copy it when it was online, please let  me know.

Some beautiful person who reads this blog had the letter FROM MICHAEL to Lisa.  He mentions unwelcome threats, behavior and  and pressure from the Presley Family:



Michael in 2008



Let’s look at Lisa’s behavior over the years in interviews.  This interview below is after she and Michael divorced.

Lisa Marie with Diane Sawyer WITHOUT Michael

This interview is with Oprah some twelve years after the divorce.


She was 36 in this video according to her own timeline (12 years ago from the time she married Michael at 24 or 25 years of age).  The first couple of minutes was enough to turn my stomach.  Loving?  Mocking . . . can’t get any further apart than that.  She doesn’t look nervous.  She looks vindictive and Oprah is a disgrace.

At 1.50 Lisa Marie says that someone convinced her that she should meet Michael because it was “good manners”.  I wonder who THAT person was?  (Branca maybe?)  Especially since she went ahead and plugged her “demo” and that Michael wanted to “sign her”.  So someone had to convince her to meet Michael.  She goes on to explain that Michael had to “disillusion” her and “loop” her into changing her mind about what she may have thought about him previously (she then emphasizes “used to”).  At 7:30 Lisa Marie says she did NOT know Michael was going to kiss her on the awards show and that Michael was the one that “used her” not the other way around.  

So we heard what Lisa had to say about Michael in various interviews.  What did Michael have to say about Lisa Marie?

Michael talks on the Schmuley tapes about "manipulative women" and also discusses women who are in 'competition with their own children" . . . Lisa Marie. 


According to Michael, Lisa Marie DID try to get back with him in the early months after their divorce (job not done yet?  Doesn't have catalog yet?) but Michael refuses.  Lisa then uses her children to try to get back with Michael . . . Michael entertains Lisa because of her children NOT because of her.

Throught these YEARS that Lisa Marie says she flew all around the world with Michael, her and her mother are trashing Michael in interviews.  Michael never, ever trashed Lisa Marie . . . never.  For someone who "didn't know any better" as Lisa put it, Michael has let the guilty walk themselves into their own, self-created lies.  

One of Michael's True Friends - Elizabeth Taylor


2005, she was nowhere to be found for the trial. Debbie Rowe was.  Even Frank DiLeo showed up for Michael’s trial.  Lisa was busy mocking him on Larry King.  She laughs and says she’s benign? 

She says Michael called HER in 2005.  I don't believe this.  After what we’ve seen, can YOU believe it?  Michael would not have wanted her back after what she did.  Michael was not devoid of intelligence, he avoided her during her attempts to get him back.  Why?  Maybe he saw those interviews too?  There is over ten years spanned in these interviews in which Lisa treats Michael as a joke and we’re expected to believe her sudden “maturity” after he dies?  Worse, yet, she wants us to believe that after all that, MICHAEL calls her and wants her back after being treated as a joke by her?  And to top all that off with sugary bullpuckies, we’re expected to believe a long conversation ensued while making him cry by telling him she was indifferent.  Who is it that has the drug problem here?

She mentions the catalog and Michael saying people wanted to kill him but does so in an offhanded manner . . . maybe to make fans believe that the conversation took place.  She mentions Michael crying when she says she's indifferent.  If this really happened and she EVER loved him, where is the emotion on her face?

She fidgets through this whole interview, cannot hold a gaze unless Oprah is asking HER a question or doing the talking.  And the reaction to the question about what she was thinking when she looked down at the casket. Take a close look at that again.  She LAUGHS then quickly composes herself and gives this broken, scratching the head “that uh . . . ummm that, took me . . . another six months to recover from.”

Sure Lisa . . . we believe you.  And I have a number one album coming out too.  It’s titled “Try it with ONE Face”.

Michael Crying during Concert...


Lady Acquarius shared this on the previous blog:

“THANK YOU!!! (Big hugz too.) You have just echoed my entire reasoning for why this recent interview has made me heartsick. In soooo many ways, I feel that Michael's proverbial "last straw" in the trust department when it came to women can certainly be directly pointed in Lisa Marie's direction. Even worse, because like I'd stated earlier, Michael was NOT one to allow his heart to override his head, it IS extremely likely that this is also the source of LMP's true bitterness. Not only did Michael "ice" her out, he NEVER let her back in either!”

“I have trouble believing the legitimacy of the supposed 2005 phone conversation too. Why? I remember LaToya having stated in a past interview where she was asked about LMP and Michael, that the ONLY reason why LMP was still allowed to accompany Michael here and there was due to their appearances being booked (via appointments) prior to their divorce.”

“But, also noteworthy... LaToya had also claimed that there marriage was NOT for love. Rather...it was a business agreement, in return LMP would be helped launch her own career. I don't know what to think of that part though. LaToya HAS been known to stretch truths and tell "whoppers", so I don't know if that part can be believed. I believe this interview is still on YT somewhere.”

“In any case, what if Michael had believed his relationship was "real" but LMP was only going along with things due to a contract with Branca and/or Sony??? Worse... did Michael eventually "catch on" to the BS??? Hmm...”

“One more thing, the Michael tapes, Michael also states, "Lisa knows her own mind." He says little else about her. He seemed more emotionally animated while discussing Brooke Shields than he did LMP! WHY, if there was oh so much love between them? Hmm...”

From Anapassionheart posted by Truthbtold -
“That aired on 10/10/2006. Lisa and her husband Michael flew to Graceland from Hawaii just to open Graceland for a private Oprah tour and gave her what seemed to be complete access to all Elvis' vaulted private collection. It's location is so secret that Lisa Marie would not allow the camera to show us where it was. But Oprah and her crew can know. She lays out a big buffet of Elvis' favorite foods for Oprah. They sit around Elvis' table where nobody but family has eaten since he died. Oprah reveals that it really is true that her grandmother was a Presley.”

Posted by SandyK found on AllForLove Blog–
“Interviews like this, in which family members and people close to him like Lisa Marie, continue to feed into the “drug addict” line, can ultimately affect the trial’s outcome if enough people come to believe that Murray was simply a pawn in Michael’s own addiction and downward spiral. And yes, interviews like this can be entered as evidence, if the defense requests it and the judge grants it!"

Lisa Marie and Oprah – Oprah gets the Graceland Tour

Lisa Marie with David Letterman

Lisa Marie on Channeling her father.  Part 3 of the Larry King Interview

Lisa Marie laughs toward the end of this when asked if she can feel her father’s spirit.  Lisa Marie laughs and says they are getting into controversial territory, then says she doesn’t want to answer.

Oddly enough, someone whom I really don’t consider the epitome of honesty either, emails someone in 2007 about her experiences with Lisa Marie.

Conversations on Lisa Marie, pro and con here – They are also posting links to You tube videos.  Source 

Far be it from me to trust Karen Faye at this point, after defending the stalkers, but if it were not for Michael saying this himself on the Schmuley tapes (he doesn’t name Lisa Marie, only refers to a woman who is jealous of her own children, and manipulative women).  At the source is a copy of an email supposedly sent to someone by Karen Faye in April of 2007.  Source

Lady Acquarius, on top of this one, also posted this:

This is regarding my previous posting about what Karen Faye had written in an email about LMP. Unfortunately, this is what happens when Karen Faye gets caught in her own BS stew...

@wingheart Karen, there has been some HATEFUL comments that you've made about LMP going around, can you confirm if you wrote them or not? about 5 hours ago via web

@wingheart Alright, but can you confirm if you wrote this or not? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Well, can you confirm it? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart The hateful comments you've made about LMP have been going around since 2007...it'd be great if you'd finally confirm/deny them.. about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Yes, but when I read those comments, they just make you look like a huge hypocrite. (no offense) about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart Okay, but is it true that you hated LMP at one point? Going as far as saying "Lisa Marie is a very evil little girl." (excerpt) about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

@wingheart The excerpts also said MJ was the most miserable man ever when he was married to LMP & she was horrible to him. Is THAT true? about 4 hours ago via web

@wingheart Oh my goodness, I'd just like a nice yes or no. Not a game at all, why are you becoming so defensive? So, they must be true then? about 4 hours ago via web in reply to wingheart

http://twitter.com/InfinityFusion

Karen's responses...

@InfinityFusion I did say things I believed to be true. But once LMP and I spoke & shared info, we came to understand things more clearly about 5 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion no I can't, I have not read what is being passed around. I do not intend to either. I am not interested in this fan game. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion LMP and I are clear, and that is what is important to me. We have made our peace &through understanding, became close about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion People change when they can open up and see the bigger picture. If you call that hypocritical, I really don't care. about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion I call it "enlightened" about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion I am a better person now, and so is LMP, because we each have grown and learned. Neither of us is perfect yet ;) about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

@InfinityFusion what part don't you understand about: I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY YOUR FAN GAME about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to InfinityFusion

http://twitter.com/wingheart 

These are the links to the screen shots in case that “twitlonger” post disappears. Thank you again Ladyaquarius.


Another interview in “Rolling Stone” compliments of Johanna’s link posted by Ladyacquarius.  Source http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_lisamarie_rollingstone.shtml

It is important to read the comments on this blog here http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/10/oprah-on-michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie.html because there are some very good links there, discussion on Michael’s licensing of an Elvis song in a Viagra commercial and more. This blog update is now eight Word pages.  I have to move and I will not be able to post another blog update probably until we are moved in and that will not be until next week.

I may do a short one on the issue of Branca not paying Katherine Jackson since that was also brought to my attention but my husband’s patience is wearing thin and we are starting to bark at each other. Thank God we can look each other in the face and laugh when we realize what we are doing.  I am lucky.

I wish Michael had been.  It hurts to know he was not.

Lisa Marie, I honestly do not know what to say to you.  I had hoped you were a friend.  I had hoped you had loved Michael . . . as much as you could.  And I did try lady, but I saw no evidence that you even know what that is, even now with four children.  You have spent the majority of your time bashing Michael in the media.  In the process you have leveled yourself with the likes of Taraborrelli, Friedman, Sawyer, Bashir and any number of tabloids out there.

Did it make you feel better?  Was mocking him during the most painful and frightful time of his life fulfilling of  your need for satisfaction?  Is it your style to kick someone when they are down and crawling on their knees in the process of getting up?

Know Lisa Marie, that this is ONLY my opinion based on everything I have seen in your interviews and heard come out of your mouth.  I was once your ally, but my opinion of you has crashed completely through the floor.

I don’t expect you to pay any attention or care about what I think.  After all, you cared not how one of the most giving, gracious and loving men I have ever studied thought about your actions, why should you care about mine?

A tip for you . . . free.  Michael sold records because he didn’t have to go on talk shows, bashing ex-spouses for attention.  Michael sold records because people love him.  People LOVE him because his actions spoke much louder than his words.  It’s the heart that comes through and yours my friend, needs a lot of work.  I tried finding heart in you.  I wanted you to have been a good person.  I wanted for ONCE to know that someone loved Michael back.  Unfortunately for Michael, it wasn’t you.

I am glad this is the last blog for a while because this one about killed me.  When the truth comes out . . . if it ever does in my lifetime, I hope Michael’s children never have to hear the things Lisa Marie said about their father.  And I hope Lisa Marie’s children never hear it either, since they seemed to adore him as much as Michael’s fans.


God Bless you Michael  Whatever Happens

To the One's Who Loved you Unconditionally . . . God . . .

And The Children . . .


97 comments:

  1. Mimi posted this on the MichaelJacksonJustice.com web site

    Bonnie - I can't post again. It's so irritating. I don't know what to do.

    can you please post this for me?
    Larry king's interview with LMP is really disheartening. After seeing this interview, I concluded that Lisa never ever loved Michael in a true sense like he loved her. She bad mouthed him before and continued after. In the interview with Oprah, she didn't even defend him about the drug use and the child abuse cases. She left a room for the viewers practically saying he is a drug addict and not sure about his innocence about the child allegations.

    Yes she confirmed their marriage was really. But, LMP was and is still is a bad choice for Michael.

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  2. First, let me say this, I left it on the previous blog comments, but KF apparently has been caught in her own "BS stew" because now she's claiming that she and LMP are "BFF's" just about. Yeah... sure they are! (I mean that sarcastically.)

    In any case, Bonnie! I was wondering if you ever knew that once upon a time Branca had represented Priscilla Presley or not. I'm glad that you are aware of it now though. Better late than never, they say. Another fairly famous client of Branca's was Don Henley (formerly of the Eagles), whom he helped secure his own music (Why he couldn't/didn't do that for MJ, who knows?) and won the case when Henley's label had tried screwing him over: "In addition, Branca helped songwriters such as Don Henley of The Eagles regain copyrights of their songs, or to help them secure royalties that they’ve lost, as he did with John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Branca

    Also noteworthy about Mr. Branca is this (also found at the source mentioned above): "2005, Branca brokered a ground-breaking deal between Korn and EMI, which made EMI a partner in all of Korn’s operations, including touring and merchandise, instead of only handing the band’s CDs, which has typically been the record company's role. This synthesis increased the record company’s incentive and ability to foster the group’s success in all endeavors. A few months later, Branca, with his partner David Lande, expanded the circle to include concert promoter LIVE NATION (I emphasized this.). The duo has since put together Live Nation deals for Shakira and Nickelback."

    The plot thickens...Note the year...2005!!!

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  3. Oh, and btw... Just to let everyone know, I DO blog about MJ every now and then. Everyone here is welcomed to watch my Twitter: http://twitter.com/lady_aquarius62

    With my arthritis acting up this time of year, I tend to Tweet info on MJ and his Family more so than blog. But, here's my blog URL too, if you would like to follow: http://ladyaquarius62.blogspot.com/

    There are already a slew of interesting blogs and files under the title of: "Michael Jackson: Thinking Outside the Box", which is found when you scroll down my page.

    You're all welcomed to visit! Hugz...

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  4. Hello Bonnie,
    I guess this is the note you were referring to....
    http://i40.tinypic.com/21o3tk1.jpg

    So long, have a safe move and take your time, we'll all still be here,
    Love

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  5. Bonnie – I will miss you so much and wait until you come back with full energy and restful mind and body.

    I am glad you study what kind of manipulative person she is. She called Michael “manipulative”. Give me a break. She probably never opens the dictionary trying to find the true meaning of manipulative. Webster dictionary says, manipulative means: "to control or play by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one’s own advantage".

    So is Michael the one who is playing manipulative game or LMP? From the little we know, of course she is the one. To name a few: Promising him she would give him children and deceived him at the end, disrespecting him and going to vacations and hanging out with her ex-husband, and after divorce, trashing him on every media she can put herself on and finally told the world he is a drug addict possibly a child molester.

    Michael does not fit this manipulative crap she is talking about at all. He is a gentle God loving man who lived his life loving and caring for others, including her and her children.

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  6. oh boy... now this has really got me thinking.

    I'm not saying this is true, but from what I've read this is how my mind has interpreted in a nutshell.

    Branca knew Michael was interested in Lisa and he knew that Lisa wanted a record deal. Who better to help her than the King of Pop.

    So Michael gets stuck in the molestation allegations, Brance tells Lisa, Michael needs an alibi as such and asks her to play along and marry him. In return she'll get her record deal and perhaps something about owning Elvis songs?? Michael knows nothing of this and believes its all true love. After that record deal doesn't happen Lisa wants out (along with all the other complications)
    She is indeed very bitter and goes out selling awful interviews.
    For Branca, he is safe because Michael is still performing and selling millions of cd's. Maybe he paid Lisa money too for the failure to deliver?

    Michael always had true love for Lisa, but the reason why Lisa says Michael is a drug addict and she couldn't say he didn't molest those boys is because she never really Loved him and to her it was all money and deals.

    IF that were true, :-( so incredibly sad. But thank God if Michael never found out.

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  7. Hi Bon and Lady,

    They met at Brett Livingstone's house - he introduced them. Am attaching a source:

    http://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/1993-1998-lisa-marie-presley/

    and it's a good read but I have read Brett's side of the story before and he went as far as stating that she pursued Michael vigorously. This flies in the face of all of her claims that he manipulated her into the relationship. She wanted Michael and this was at a time when Michael was only her career mentor. Read the part of this blog that starts with: "November 1992, They met at Brett Livingstone's house; Excerpt from Child Bride by Suzanne Finstad".

    Karin

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  8. In 2005 the LMP new single was IDIOT
    http://www.lyricsbay.com/idiot_lyrics-lisa_marie_presley.html

    Guess who was the one she addressed the words to.
    and I repeat the year : 2005

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  9. Thank you everyone. Getting some more hate mail on this one. Not as bad as the Ganesha Om stuff though . . .

    Allyson sent me a copy of the annulment letter FROM Michael she saved on her computer. It is posted above. Will be in and out sporadically today to approve comments. Thank you Lady and Mistress for your resources.

    Simo Thank you! Yes, that is the annulment letter! You guys are beyond awesome♥

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  10. I must have missed the last blog post, just went over and read it now. I am so confused!!! Don't know what to believe or make of this.

    I do wonder though, if Michael and Lisa were close and "together" all the way up until 1999, then what was stopping them from getting married again? All those years? Why get a divorce and then waste another 5years with that person whom you willingly divorced from? It doesn't make sense. If I was to break up with my partner of 4years, the last thing I'd want to do is see them. Even if i did still love them.

    so sorry you are getting hate mail. How close minded are people. There is NO hating on Michael so why does it hurt to look at all the possibilities?

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  11. Mimi - I have no doubt Michael manipulates, but he does it on stage. Off stage his heart is on his sleeve and all you have to do is watch him when he is talking to know how open he is. He couldn't hide his emotions if he tried. Lisa on the other hand has a tough time appearing sincere and these interviews above are the reason why. Lisa had more reason to lie than Michael did. The threats he mentions in that note on the blog I think have to do with Scientology possibly and not the catalog, but I don't know.
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    Lonely - Lisa never commits herself on Michael's innocence. Not in the 2005 interview with either Oprah or Larry King, not in this Oprah interview either. That is very telling. I can't believe people don't see this.
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    Karin - you're right, that is an interesting read. I don't know how true it is, I am not familiar with this Brett Livingston. But if Lisa Marie began this with hopes of doing a record, then it turned into this Sony wanting Lisa to Marry Michael to get control . . . I don't know. Lisa pursuing Michael for a singing career? He's never said that. I mean Michael's never said that. But Lisa DID mention before that she didn't WANT to be on Michael's label, didn't want to do that in one of the interviews. SHE volunteered that, not Michael. I've heard Lisa's songs. Her voice is not bad, but I dont' like her music/lyrics.

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  12. Bonnie – after I read everything you and other said in their comments and watched every video posted here and other comments from MJ fan clubs, I concluded that what LMP said about Michael told her in 2005 somebody is after him to kill him and she knows who are they is a piece of crap.

    Mind you Michael confined to her after she butchered him in every media she could be on, and now she is trying to tell the world that she was his best friend until that time. Where was she during his trial? Oh, I forgot she was mocking him on the media making him look like he is a child molester.

    Michael never told her sorry self somebody was after him. That was a big lie. She wants to manipulate the fans and the world as a matter of fact for her own gain, which is to sell her upcoming record. The interview with Oprah is a big advertisement exploit using Michael’s name for her new upcoming record.

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  13. Karin - Did you take note of the Press and what they said about Lisa Marie getting into Music? this is in 1993, right before the allegations surface. Michael wasn't biting on Lisa's career maybe? And those behind the scenes orchestrated this "marriage" to create . . . what? Everything seems to have been done to exert some kind of control over Michael. That is what it is looking like to me from what this guy wrote. He ADMITS he played matchmaker. This bears looking into later. LIke when I'm moved.
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  14. Mistress - Isn't she a lovely person? Lyrics:

    Please remember me forever
    Believe in me as someone
    Who's never gonna wish you well

    I'm gonna tell you what I think about you in that unforgivable way I do
    You're an idiot
    And I hate your guts
    I guess I'm about as happy for you as I would be a cockroach in my food
    I know it's terrible
    I really hate you though

    Do you have your fairytale lie
    Or are you dancing to the white trash twist
    Oh please remember me
    Believe in me as someone
    Who's never gonna wish you well

    I heard the thing that you hate about me almost everyday, but you still wouldn't leave
    I had to pull the plug
    Ooh, I hated your guts
    And I heard the opposite of love isn't hate
    It's indifference
    But I can't relate
    It's not good enough
    Cuz I hate your guts

    Did you settle your mediocre mind
    You had the fine wine you're better off with Bud Light

    [Chorus]
    Oh please remember me
    Believe in me as someone
    Who's never gonna wish you well
    Oh please remember me
    Believe in me as someone
    Who wants you to go to hell

    You're raining, you're boring
    Oh, did you hear me snoring?
    I'd wanna mutilate myself when I talk to you
    So here we are, I hope you can tell that I'm no referral

    You can have 'em, call hell
    You're gonna drive 'em nuts
    They're gonna hate your guts

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  15. LOL - The movers are here. 60+ year old crew chief thinks Michael Jackson was a sweet person and never believed the allegations. He asked me, "Did you see that interview the other night?" I told him "Yes, I wrote about it". He just shook his head. Didn't believe a word Lisa Marie said.

    What do you all thing about this theory?

    Brett Livingston who says he introduced Lisa to Michael and Lisa pursued Michael relentlessly to get a record deal . . . Michael didn't want to sign her because he didn't think she could sing! LOL! But THEY worked on Michael and after the 1993 allegations, Michael was vulnerable and easy prey and he thought it good to then propose to Lisa Marie to shore up his image. Then they turn around and make it look like Micheal pursued her??? Michael went along with the story because he had to or FELT he had to protect himself and his career from the fallout of the allegations.

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  16. Did you notice something also . . .

    Michael Jackson's songs are about love, God, Children, Love, and what they did to him.

    Lisa Marie's songs are about hate and anger and spite.

    She is the polar opposite of Michael.

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  17. Bonnie - this Brett Livingston has a oil painting of Michael and Lisa (at least it's purported to be an oil painting signed by Livingston) right now on EBay for sale (not sure if he's the seller or if it has been sold before and the current seller is the second owner); the starting bid was ONE DOLLAR and it's now up to over $3,000 with days left on the bid. The info on EBay says the painting was done between 1990 and 1999. I haven't seen this mentioned by anyone else here; who is Brett Livingston? A matchmaker AND an artist?

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  18. I just want to add one thing: I love Michael UNCONDITIONALLY. All this hurts me beyond words but I know I love him unconditionally and more than anyone can ever imagine. God is my witness.

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  19. Bonnie as I stated in my comments on the other blog you wrote about the interview, you have to know everything that was going on behind the scenes.

    Lisa and her family may have thought they had him in a corner and maybe they did for a while. Lisa was in love with him and still has love for him. She can say all she wants that she moved on but has she really? I will venture to say that she moved to England in an attempt to get away from the hell she created for herself but sadly she can't run from her own mind and conscious.

    Yes she belittled him in the press and he said very little in public about her. He did his on a more low key level, ie the commercial. He made money off of her "Daddy", the King of Rock and Roll. A black man pimped the "Kings" music. Her and her family could not handle it and I bet if the truth is really ever told they, along with others were the instigators of some of his later problems if not the main source. Money, EGO, Jealousy and Racism is a deadly combination. After all of that MJ still owns some of her Daddy's music. They thought they ruined him but we all know the public response to his almost O2 concerts and then the TII documentary/movie. Since his passing the truth is being revealed and many are taking time to uncover the truth on their own. His image is being restored more and more.

    Hmmmmm just maybe her interview was her way of waving the white flag so to speak. Karma is a bitch.... We don't know whats been going on behind the scenes and she may be trying to soften the blow because something else may be coming down the pike. It may be wishful thinking on my part lets just wait and see...

    Again I hope your move is safe and drama free.

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  21. Hi, girls! Саn anybody write Michael's letter
    http://i40.tinypic.com/21o3tk1.jpg

    I can't understand some of his words. His handwriting is not clear. Thanks a lot.

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  22. Hi again Bonnie, on my lunch break, got to make it quick, BUT that "annulment" note "from Michael to Lisa", where is it addressed to her? That's what the garbageman Vaccaro said. Do we know this could have been Michael's own thoughts put to paper, as he often did? And the word "annulment" (as opposed to the use of the word "divorce", or dissolution of marriage, which in Cal is the term used for "divorce")struck me. In California, an annulment can be obtained for DURESS, lack of assent to the marriage, impotency, underage marriage, bigamy or consanguinity.

    This "note" shows Michael definitely felt he was under "duress", as it does not appear the other grounds for annulment would apply.

    So while Michael may have thought "annulment" was the appropriate remedy, the medialoids would have had a field day with THAT stated to be the reason they split up, hence "divorce" (dissolution of marriage for irreconcilable differences - "no fault" in California), became the compromise.

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  23. " Michael sold records because people love him. People LOVE him because his actions spoke much louder than his words."
    holy words, God bless you Bonnie!
    I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FOREVER

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  24. A very dark, even morbid Lisa Marie is revealed in that Rolling Stone interview.

    A child killing animals, even frogs, is a warning sign. As with the things she's said about Michael, she didn't take responsibility, blamed her childhood friends, even though her daughter said: "She ran over the frogs with the golf cart. On purpose". Think about it...Lisa had to be the source of that information to her daughter. Running over frogs with a golf cart can't exactly be accidental. So, she victimizes, lies in front of and to her daughter...and the world. Great role model.

    It is very apparent that she was an emotionally neglected child with too much unsupervised time on her hands. Sounds like she spent a heck of a lot of time alone, on her golf cart at Graceland while Elvis slept all day.

    She was a gutsy, manipulative, dishonest kid - taking cameras from people and their money saying she was going to take photos of her dad then "throw the camera somewhere". Is there a similarity there with what she did to Michael? Only, this time she took payment and did deliver?

    It very much sounds in that article like she had prior knowledge about the MTV kiss. Why lie?

    Her lyrics about Michael are very accusing, insulting and hurtful. In response she says "I am not into Michael-bashing at all. I have no interest in doing that." HUH? Is she a blind, deaf liar or just the vessel protecting a stone cold soul with a multitude of excuses?

    Anybody catch the reference to her eating only "chicken and broccoli" for a year during her health problems after her divorce from Michael? Of all the food in the entire world, it was also chicken and broccoli that was reportedly fed to Michael during TII rehearsals. Is that a coincidence?

    In her livingroom, over the fireplace, a deep red portrait of Lisa Marie on black canvas done by a friend of hers. "It's painted in blood, she says. Everyone has their thing. That is his." And obviously hers too or it would not be so prominently displayed. I wonder whose blood.

    A person's core character doesn't often drastically change from childhood to adulthood. What kind of person is she? It's becoming clear.

    The ONLY valuable piece of information she gave humanity in this interview is the insanity of filling our mouths with mercury.

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  25. For Badtour:

    This is typed out as it is written:

    http://i40.tinypic.com/21o3tk1.jpg

    Annullment Reason:

    I refuse to continue to live under extensive pressure of impact now or the future of a family unwelcome threats and behavior, such as the Presely family.

    I, Michael Jackson file "Irreconcilable Differences"

    And will continue to direct my energy towards my first love, music....

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    Personally, for his being a man, I think he has wonderful handwriting.

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  26. @ Bonnie: "Did you notice something also . . .

    Michael Jackson's songs are about love, God, Children, Love, and what they did to him.

    Lisa Marie's songs are about hate and anger and spite.

    She is the polar opposite of Michael."

    Oh, I soooo agree. I despise that song ("Idiot"). The problem with LMP is that she fails to realize that those whom live in glass houses should never throw stones. And, I wish to draw attention to:

    I heard the thing that you hate about me almost everyday, but you still wouldn't leave
    I had to pull the plug
    Ooh, I hated your guts
    And I heard the opposite of love isn't hate
    It's INDIFFERENCE (has everyone caught this??? good!)
    But I can't relate
    It's not good enough
    Cuz I hate your guts

    Well LMP I don't think that too many of us actually like you much either. You're the TRUE idiot, so eat your own words-- we can supply some relish if you like because ultimately? The joke was on you. How is that for "clarity?"

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  27. I have very little to say Bonnie except ALL of LMP'S past words have been said with contempt and malice. The part about the children and she could have cared less where Michael's children came from really made my eyes swell. She stated it was 'retalitory' in the interiew. LMP has never gone on interviews smashing her former husbands. She has always talked nothing by praise for Danny, and the likes of Nicholas Cage, well, she has kept her mouth shut on that Mess. Her current husband, who I have NO idea what kind of talent he may be. She has some regular guy who truthfully reminds me of an item she carries in her purse, she takes it out when needed and puts it away. I am sure MJ was hurt when she had her twins, not jealous in anyway, but a personal hurt it wasn't them. Prince, Paris and Blanket now have this interiew to deal with. LMP made their birth seem as a 'gotcha' in the way Lisa described it. I was surprised in a way Oprah did not ask her if she met the kids at the September 3rd, Funeral. She says she was the last to leave..WHY??? I don't want to really bash LMP because she was Michael's wife, he bought her a 10 Carat Ring, the first we heard, because at the actual ceremony they exchanged bands. She received 10% of the HIStory Tour Profits, she failed to mention. She was also given the rights to write a book. I hope she never does that, she does not need the money and everything alread said has been enough. Her new found friendship with 'Wingheart' Karen Faye.. well, again here I go LMAO.. Faye kinda strays in the direction the wind blows. I only hope someday before it is too late Elizabeth Taylor makes a statement because I think she knows alot. We know she disliked Debbie Rowe, I am not sure of LMP. She has some kind of relationship with the kids, maybe more grandmotherly?? But, as the saying goes, 'Who needs enemies with friends like you'? and that is how I see it with LMP. Finally, I don't believe this is the last we have heard from LMP. When it fancies her, she will appear and more words will spill..

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  28. I have to agree with June. That doesn't look like a letter to Lisa from Michael. Rather, it looks like his own personal thoughts concerning options to end the marriage.

    People choose annulment when they wish to erase it as though it never happened. That in itself is telling as to how Michael felt about the marriage. He certainly seemed to have come to terms with the situation. I wish it had a date on it.

    Sure sounds like the Presley family was sticking their noses in. I wonder who besides Priscilla, of whom I get the impression is controlling, opinionated and domineering, especially of and concerning Lisa Marie. Some of LM's comments also point to her mother being this way.

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  29. Mimi (via Bonnie) said: "She bad mouthed him before and continued after. In the interview with Oprah, she didn't even defend him about the drug use and the child abuse cases. She left a room for the viewers practically saying he is a drug addict and not sure about his innocence about the child allegations."

    Does this really surprise you? Poor little rock n' roll Princess... not really going anywhere in her "career". Never measuring up to dear ol' Daddy, and never will even come close to her ex-hubby's accomplishments either. Aww...

    Can we all see why LMP is simply a very spoiled little rich girl, accustomed to life with a silver spoon in her mouth, being bitter? I can!!! Why?... How? She inherited most of her money. The keyword... INHERITED. Sure, she's earned herself a few bucks on her own along the way, but that didn't come until AFTER Michael Jackson. She failed to get anywhere BEFORE Michael Jackson. Worse, without Michael Jackson, it's doubtful that her career would have ever seriously launched much less generated any interest. Aww... let's feel bad for her... NOT!

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  30. June said - "who is Brett Livingston? A matchmaker AND an artist? "

    >>>>I had seen the name before but didn't know who he was. Did he paint it? I don't know. Someone sent me that blog link and I posted it.
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    Saskia said - "I just want to add one thing: I love Michael UNCONDITIONALLY."

    >>>>>Thank you Saskia. That's all he ever wanted♥♥♥
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    Miss Shae - I have a hard time seeing love from her. I don't see it. The rest of what you said has strong possibilities (the family pressures on Michael, the catalog with Elvis's songs, possibly the Scientology interference, who knows). I do believe there was love from Michael to her. With her in the beginning, perhaps during the 1st Diane Sawyer interview, I sense infatuation and maybe even a sense of ownership but not love. And she has never, ever committed to his innocence in interviews. Never. Not even on Diane Sawyer. All she ever said was "she never saw it". During the Larry King interview over that trial. Seriously? Love? She looked like she was enjoying his misery! You don't do that to someone you love OR loved . . . EVEN if you are over it! That was bordering on malicious.

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  31. June said - "BUT that "annulment" note "from Michael to Lisa", where is it addressed to her? That's what the garbageman Vaccaro said. Do we know this could have been Michael's own thoughts put to paper, as he often did? And the word "annulment" (as opposed to the use of the word "divorce", or dissolution of marriage, which in Cal is the term used for "divorce")struck me. In California, an annulment can be obtained for DURESS, lack of assent to the marriage, impotency, underage marriage, bigamy or consanguinity."

    >>>>>>It sounds like Michael's phrasing if you look at other notes he's written. But obviously if it is in storage, I don't think it was ever delivered. It looks like Michael wrote notes as to what he would WANT TO SAY on any document that went out. I do not think this was official in anyway . . . only Michael writing down thoughts to clarify a statement later. Their marriage ended in divorce, not annulment. Maybe he was thinking he would be able to get an annulment.
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    Daniela - Thank you♥ And God bless you. Thank you for being patient with all this and for sticking by him.

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  32. Well I don't think either one of them won in the end. I can't help but wonder if Michael realized that his personal issues was nothing compare to what he discovered as he got to know her. Its always someone out there that has a bigger cross to bear.
    I agree with the comment above, LM had/has some serious issues that need to be addressed. Until she does that misery will be her best friend. Really soooooo sad.

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  33. Bonnie said, 'And she has never, ever committed to his innocence in interviews. Never. Not even on Diane Sawyer. All she ever said was "she never saw it".'
    Maybe thats true, she never saw anything and if she did don't you think she would have commented on it by now? Really its pitiful on her part. After all the chasing and bad behaviour she still didn't get what she wanted most. She knew MJ was a good catch for a number of reasons but she simply didn't get her way. I think thats her biggest problem. I ask that all who believe in prayer do so for her, only God can heal the wounds thats been festering in her soul for a very long time...

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  34. Dear Bonnie and all the others,

    Thank you for all the wonderful links.

    After reading all your posts about LMP I further reinforce my vision that she never loved Michael, she only wanted to use him to start a singing career, she wanted to control him and make of him a scientology member, she wanted Elvis songs and was jealous of the love her children had for Michael, when she saw she wasn't doing it, she filed for divorce, hoping that he would come begging her to reconsider and come back to her, which he didn't.

    Instead, Michael moved on and started a new and loving family with Debbie Rowe and had two beautiful children (Prince and Paris).

    But she was infuriated by this and tried and tried to separate them, which she accomplished, when Debbie filed for divorce in 1999.


    I think LMP is a very sick woman, she needs to be treated.

    LYM
    Hope you have a safe journey to your new home

    Anapassionheart

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  35. Bonnie,
    I found this video of "Idiot" by LMP on You Tube.

    To Me) the Video is a Clever Way to COVER ONE'S AS_.

    The video makes it look like she's calling HERSELF an "Idiot".

    In Rabbi Shmuley's Book on Michael Jackson Tapes,

    LMP calls Michael an "Idiot" in reference to MJ wanting to visit 2 teen boys in prison.

    These boys killed another boy and were getting sentenced to Life in Prison. This was in London.

    Lisa said, "You Idiot. You're just rewarding them for what they did."

    Source: The Michael Jackson Tapes (Page 217)

    Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=527OrFxtVmc&ob=av2e

    To ME) The Song is about MJ being an Idiot.

    But the Video is about Lisa being an Idiot.

    Pretty Clever huh?

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  36. CORRECTION:

    In Shmuley's Book, "The Michael Jackson Tapes",
    the boys were NOT teens. They were only 10 or 11 years of age. (Page 217)

    Sorry about that.

    __Josie

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  37. Dear Bonnie,

    I have posted some videos for you too review while you take your much deserved break. I have researched so much I think Im goin nuts. In one of these videos Farakhan stated that a couple of days before michaels Death Michaels lawyers called him and expressed concern about Michael losing his catalog. Farakhan said he was in Africa and did not have a chance to call Michael back and a few days later he saw the news and he knew right away Michael was no longer with us. There was also and article about about some nation of islam members hanging out in the offices of John Branca and Debbie Row was concerned for the children. There is also info on the internet about the nanny being associated with the Nation of Islam. There is also a video of her during the trial being kissed on the cheek by some man in the crowed. I wish I would have saved these articles and videos, there is also a interview of the nanny on youtube with Daphne Barrack the same one who interviewed the Jackson family, and she also has relations to Tom barrack of colony owner of neverland.


    Thanks for all your doing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpIEOVqqtqQ&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H63BO-V9Dpk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohZT-tdA_8&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJVhSSO0ig&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKW3jjlYj10&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz2665oUhM0&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPaK5pknVg&p=A1AC48DA409793AD&playnext=1&index=44

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ3a49v2LI&feature=related

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  38. I believe Liz Taylor was a True Friend to MJ.

    She has been ill for some time and during 2005 she did support MJ.

    She didn't go to the trial because of health issues and the press.

    It would have added to the already Circus Style Coverage.

    Source:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Taylor

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  39. Here is an Interesting Tidbit..............


    There were 3 women in MJ's life with, CLOSE to the Same Name.

    1. Liz Taylor
    2. Liza Minelli
    3. Lisa Marie Presley

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  40. Miss Shae said - "Well I don't think either one of them won in the end. I can't help but wonder if Michael realized that his personal issues was nothing compare to what he discovered as he got to know her. Its always someone out there that has a bigger cross to bear."

    >>>>> Does anyone ever win in a situation like that? Only the disillusioned would think they won something. I honestly cannot say that Lisa Marie suffered more than Michael. Michael's personal issues were obviously treated a lot less graciously by the public than Lisa Marie's. Lisa did her drugs in private. Not many know she had a taste for cocaine. Michael develops a dependency on pain medication and it's all over the news he's a zombied-out drug addict. Lisa Marie and Michael have NO PARELLELS at all in their personal lives. Michael carried the cross for everyone but himself. Lisa Marie expected everyone else to carry her cross and still does. They are definitely not the same people. Lisa needs help and nobody is helping her, they are enabling her and her behavior. The first step of that is getting her to admit to herself that she has a problem. No, I'm not saying drugs. She is addicted to hate.

    Miss Shae said - "Really its pitiful on her part. After all the chasing and bad behaviour she still didn't get what she wanted most."

    >>>>>> Does she even know what she wants? I know what she is looking for, but she throws it back in people's faces when they hand it to her. Maybe she's seen it from so few people she didn't even recognize it in Michael? Lisa Marie destroyed what chance she possibly had at it because she is not familiar with the concept of giving. She can't trust, she can't forgive, she can't love. I WAS LIKE HER. I wasn't cruel to people, I was the opposite. I withdrew. Lisa went the other way probably because of her upbringing.

    You know what brought me out of that? You know what prevented me from turning into Lisa?

    God. She doesn't have God and does not know him. He is what kept me from going over the edge. I was still closed up, but God kept me from going over the edge.

    I see Lisa's face and I see her eyes and I see someone who is already gone. I really hope that is not true.
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  41. Anapassionheart said - "I further reinforce my vision that she never loved Michael, she only wanted to use him to start a singing career, she wanted to control him and make of him a scientology member, she wanted Elvis songs and was jealous of the love her children had for Michael, when she saw she wasn't doing it, she filed for divorce, hoping that he would come begging her to reconsider and come back to her, which he didn't."

    >>>>>The bit about being jealous of the attention her children gave Michael really bothers me. And you know what? Our society today teaches selfish love. It teaches above all else, there better be something in it for you. Surface fulfillment, instant gratification even at someone else's expense.

    The whole concept of unconditional love does not exist with most people, they don't understand it, nor have they ever seen it. Michael knew what it was. He was always looking for it. He found it with God and with children but he wanted to see it in all people. With someone like Lisa that doesn't even know what she is looking for, it is even harder. You constantly try to find fulfillment in unfulfilling things. She lashes out and with envy involved, she ends up attacking the very person that offers her what she is looking for.

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  42. Hi Bonnie,

    Just a heads up. The quote that you attribute to me in your blog above is not from me. I made a comment on your previous post that included a quote from AllForLove's blog. That blog had some interesting thoughts that were relavent to your Oprah/LMP blog post. When you get a chance, I know you're very busy right now, but could you add that I was referencing AllForLove's blog? I don't want anyone to think that I'm taking credit for someone else's words. I'd be most grateful.

    Thank you kindly,

    Sandy

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  43. Josie said - "Bonnie,
    I found this video of "Idiot" by LMP on You Tube.

    To Me) the Video is a Clever Way to COVER ONE'S AS_.

    The video makes it look like she's calling HERSELF an "Idiot".

    In Rabbi Shmuley's Book on Michael Jackson Tapes,

    LMP calls Michael an "Idiot" in reference to MJ wanting to visit 2 teen boys in prison."

    >>>>>> The video, I tried looking at the lyrics, but if you read the lyrics you KNOW it's not written about herself (She talking to someone ..."you still wouldn't leave, I had to pull the plug..." so she's not getting away with that one. Even if she WAS writing that about herself, she needs help if that is the case.
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    Nita said - "There was also and article about about some nation of islam members hanging out in the offices of John Branca and Debbie Row was concerned for the children."

    >>>>>> Thank you Nita for the links. I will have to take my time. This is the first time I have ever moved where I'm not the one doing the majority of the packing. Relaxing though? Not happening, but I will do my best. I did not see the article on John Branca and NOI or Debbie Rowe. Did Debbie Rowe see this recently?

    Nita said - "Interview of the nanny on youtube with Daphne Barrack the same one who interviewed the Jackson family, and she also has relations to Tom barrack of colony owner of neverland.

    >>>>>>>>>This I do not know about.
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    Josie said - "There were 3 women in MJ's life with, CLOSE to the Same Name.

    1. Liz Taylor
    2. Liza Minelli
    3. Lisa Marie Presley "

    LOL! Now count all the "Toms" in Michael's life!

    Tom Sneddon
    Tommy Mottola
    Tom Mesereau
    Tohme Tohme
    Thom Barrack

    Then there is:
    Randy Taraborrelli (who THINKS he was a friend)
    Randy Jackson
    Randy Phillips
    PHILIP Anschutz

    Any more Phillip/Randy people or Tom people I missed?

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  44. Hi Bonnie,

    Although I don't agree with your blog entry I respsect your opinion about Lisa.

    I want to share something with you.

    I sent Karen Faye 2 questions on Facebook asking her about why she use to bash Lisa in the past. Her response was very cold. She was brutal to other people too. My name on twitter is Skye_Moon. You could see the way she replied to me in twitter. I replied just as coldly because despite the fact she blocked me for asking her those questions, she still reads my twitter page since she answered her buddy "neverletyoupart" by calling me "unstable". I'm unstable? Why get so angry, block me for asking her why she bashed LMP in the past? That says a lot. She also got very defensive with a girl who runs a LMP & MJ site name infinityFusion. Was just as cold and defensive with her.

    Just letting you know.

    -Skye

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  45. Josie said - "There were 3 women in MJ's life with, CLOSE to the Same Name.

    1. Liz Taylor
    2. Liza Minelli
    3. Lisa Marie Presley
    ________________________________________________

    Bonnie said:

    LOL! Now count all the "Toms" in Michael's life!

    Tom Sneddon
    Tommy Mottola
    Tom Mesereau
    Tohme Tohme
    Thom Barrack

    Then there is:
    Randy Taraborrelli (who THINKS he was a friend)
    Randy Jackson
    Randy Phillips
    PHILIP Anschutz

    Any more Phillip/Randy people or Tom people I missed?
    ________________________________________________

    Josie says:
    (LOL) Bonnie, You Topped me Big Time!

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  46. @ Skye Moon: I was the one who brought Bonnie the info regarding InfinityFusion and KF's rather ugly response to her inquiry. All that I can say is this... Get used to this sort of behavior from Ms. Faye. Whenever she gets caught in something be it past or relatively current, this is usually how she will react. Do NOT take offense by it nor take anything she says to heart. It's quite apparent that Ms. Faye is as two-faced as the day is long, unfortunately. Worse, we're not the only ones who have witnessed it because this sort of thing has landed her in rather hot water many times before.

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  47. By nature, I'm compelled to come to someone's defense first when I percieve harsh words being thrown their way. But I have to tell you, I have seen many of LMP's interviews and was baffled by her responses. The callous contempt she often displays toward Michael is staggering and leaves me breathless. So often it makes no sense. The only thing that I've been able to compare her responses to is that of a teenager lashing out as a result of emotional neglect. This is not meant as in insult, believe me, I'm trying to show some empathy. I think the emotional neglect is something that has built up from childhood for her, not as a result of interacting with Michael.

    Her blog post from last year was the first time I had been able to soften my feelings towards her. I felt it did show some measure of feeling and compassion for Michael and maybe even a little appreciation for him. Yes, even that. However, I wish she hadn't done the recent interview. It caused me to distance myself from her again.

    She's always been strongwilled, and like Michael said, "she know's her own mind." To give some background, from my research I've learned that Lisa dropped out of high school at 16 and had apparently been kicked out of school at least once. She married both Danny Keough and Michael with out telling her mother in advance. Both marriages were a surprise to her mother, especially the marriage to Michael, which she was against. Although her famous father did dote on her, there wasn't much in the way of "parenting" going on as far as he was concerned although I do believe Lisa loves her father very much. Of course he died when she was 9 years old. I add this as information only, not to excuse the things she has said.

    As for Oprah, in some ways I feel that she has been something of an informal therapist for Lisa. When I watched the interview, I felt like I was watching a one-on-one therapy session, albiet an incomplete one and too much leading in the questioning on Oprah's part. I think Lisa would benefit from professional therapy unfortunately, Scientologists don't acknowledge or believe in the field of psychotherapy.

    In a side note, I feel that the Church of Scientology's views on psycotherapy and even neurology are extremely distorted. Those with neurological disorders such as epilepsy are strongly discouraged from using medication to control siezures in favor of a "special" diet. It's sounds nice but it doesn't work the vast majority of the time. Most siezure disorders result from either a birth defect or head trauma. Diet has little or no affect for most siezure disorders. Many epileptics have had to leave the church due to strong reprimands (even harrassment) they receive for using medication to control their condition. I can comment on this since I have some experience with this type of situation. However, I will not comment on it further.

    MissShae said, "I ask that all who believe in prayer do so for her, only God can heal the wounds thats been festering in her soul for a very long time..."

    I agree with you MissShae.

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  48. Dear Bonnie,

    I made a mistake it was mark geragos office. I found the article.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1484028/20031231/jackson_michael.jhtml

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  49. Josie said, "I believe Liz Taylor was a True Friend to MJ."

    Yes, you're absolutely right. Liza Minelli was also a genuine friend to Michael. Both Liz and Liza worked very hard to achieve their successes as did Michael. In Liza's case, she had to do double duty, as an adult she had to work to pay off her mother's (Judy Garland) debts. Debts that were created by those that mis-managed her mothers money.

    Anyway, just an interesting side note.

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  50. SandyK said - "ust a heads up. The quote that you attribute to me in your blog above is not from me. "

    >>>>> Hey! I MEANT to include that. I did see that. Lots of typos I had to fix too after I posted. Will Fix . . . thanks Sandy
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    Skye said - "I sent Karen Faye 2 questions on Facebook asking her about why she use to bash Lisa in the past. Her response was very cold. She was brutal to other people too. "

    I did see this, there were a couple of people slamming Karen about Lisa Marie. I think it originated from the posted email she wrote to someone back in 2007 where she is bashing Lisa Marie . . . basically saying the same things as what is posted here, but calling her evil. I posted that above.

    When Karen had her facebook page, she could get other people to defend her. Now with just twitter she either has to answer or ignore. When I published the Ganesha Om information and that of TINI, I was attacked. I was accused of attacking Karen and accused of not asking her about what I was accusing her of . . . well, THIS is what happens when you do.

    Lisa Marie and Karen have a shared agenda now. Karen was going to do it anyway . . . Lisa Marie will do one as a back up when she doesn't sell the records she wants to sell. Lisa Marie has information Karen doesn't have on Michael and visa-versa. Wait and see what happens.

    By the way - some of the members of TINI are splintering off . . . for marketing purposes. That is a future story. :o)

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  51. Dear Bonnie,

    This is the article about Debbie Rowe.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108328,00.html

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  52. Bonnie, I feel for you tonight...I really do! This must have been one of the most difficult blogs to write. In an effort to get to the truth and exorcise the pain we feel for Michael, our observations only reveal more cruelty waged against him - from the most unexpected source, and we continue to suffer through him. Every effort has been made to be fair on the issue of LMP, to the point where we have screened videos three and four times. I don't think any of us would put ourselves through such a nauseating experience if it were not for the purpose of being fair. With each review, I come away with the same empty feeling.

    If someone doesn't like what your blog uncovers, that's really not your problem, is it? While everyone else flourishes and profits, Michael was the big loser here, and a mission to dig for the truth is often not pretty. I'm not worried about treading softly with Lisa Marie, or anyone else whose motives might be less than honorable.

    To watch one interview with Lisa Marie is like watching ten of them, and she has shown that she can take quite good care of herself. With that said, I will offer the following comments. Keep in mind that everything I have observed in her appearances on national television is assuming that this would be her best behavior!

    I have been in pain since June 25, 2009, but I don't see LMP as a woman in pain. I see someone who is streetwise and lacking poise, whose demeanor telegraphs she "knows the score." Not that experience is a bad thing, but she pretends to be coy, is very self absorbed and always "on." Certain affectations or "ticks," such as frequently touching or caressing her hair on camera are subliminal signals that command people to look at her. She is not as into the moment as she is into "herself."

    By contrast, LMP's demeanor during the Diane Sawyer interview with Michael was also revealing. Her neck looked like it was sinking into her shoulders which made her head appear to tilt downward, as if wanting to retract into a turtle shell. Compare her demeanor to the upright posture of Michael, who faced Sawyer's offensive questions proudly and without shrinking. I sensed that Lisa would have wished to be anywhere but where she was at that moment. Period. If you add all the negative body language to what we actually hear her saying, one thing stands out. This woman had no deep feelings for Michael and makes it clear each time that she does not enjoy talking about him in any way, shape or form. But, if she didn't have Michael as a topic to "hook" an audience, what would she have???

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  53. Josie - LOL! I'm sorry! I couldn't resist. For a long time I've been thinking about doing a blog update on "The Five Toms of Michael Jackson" LOL!

    --------------------------------------------------

    SandyK - I am very familiar with the Scientology cult. When I lived in D.C. and worked at the World Bank, there were a few of them in there, but they weren't as ah . . . flamboyant about it as Tom Cruise and the Hollywood ilk were. When Tom Cruise when ape on Oprah's couch, I looked deeper into it, read Dianetics and I even contacted the church down there inside the Beltway, in Virginia. They sent me literature. I went to their web site and began reading. Then I researched them outside the church, on the internet. Essentially, it is a creepy, completely made-up cult, who's prime objective is to operate an elaborate and well thought out ponzi scheme masquerading as a religion. Think Masons with an "outer space" origin coupled with the ponzi scheme.

    I agree with you on the emotional neglect of Lisa and I believe it would break Elvis's heart . . . just crush it if he knew his little girl had been "hollowed out" emotionally.

    This blog is to focus on Michael and I don't ever want to be directed off of that. Michael is the one that was murdered and Michael is the one that needs justice to prevail. That is my priority on this blog.

    Lisa is one of the people that REPEATEDLY hurt him. And this is why these last two blog entries and the resulting discussion exists. Unfortunately these people have to be exposed if Michael is going to GET any justice. But I will say this . . . if just one of those people who hurt him can find where they got lost so to speak . . . realize and find what unconditional love is and see what they did to Michael, I would just be overcome.

    If one of those people was Lisa Marie . . . I know two people that would be very happy to see her get her heart back . . . Her Daddy and Michael.

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  54. Bonnie,

    What I don't get, is why would Lisa want MJ back after they divorced?

    Why would she change her mind and say she'd give him 9 kids when during the marriage, she didn't want any kids at all?

    So what changed her mind?

    I don't get it.

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  55. Continued comments...

    You can't make a mockery of a man with whom you claim to have been intimate without having people question what that says about you! My mind is racing on this. Even if the marriage was a mutual arrangement for publicity, Michael was a prince, never once insulting or belittling Lisa after they split. Lisa made the rounds of the talk shows and proved to be anything but a lady. THIS IS IMPORTANT: All she did was help perpetuate the myth that Michael is an unstable and bizarre piece of work! The least she could have done was show some class, even if she had to fake it. For crying out loud, Michael was not some sociopath or wife beater, yet Lisa telegraphed (through gesture, if not with words) the most negative feelings for him, which was the same as sharing an inside joke with her audience at his expense. (At the end of this post is a link to "Music and Me." I see Michael's little face as a kid, knowing how loving and compassionate he was to the end, and LMP's ridicule gives me such pain! Was there anyone in Michael's life aside from his mother who did not throw daggers at his heart?)

    Think about this. Remember that Lisa Marie, just like the rest of us, knows that Oprah has not been in Michael's corner - ever, and we can assume Oprah's audience pretty much thinks the way she does. Food for thought...Lisa Marie knew she was in like-minded company! Is this someone who deserves kid glove treatment? Michael is the one who has been stomped on, not Princess Presley!

    It seems to make no difference to LMP whether Michael was alive or dead in terms of how she talks about him. Her attitude is exactly the same. You expect differences in the way one reacts at least when someone dies, because for most of us who lose someone we love or care about, death does change your sensibilities. Look how all of us have been affected by Michael, not even having met him. Lisa Marie? A cold fish.

    And finally, as for that photo taken of her by Michael's casket, Lisa was NOT the last person to leave the private service after the others had gone. She left with everyone, then decided to go back in and stand by the casket alone. A personal and poignant moment? Who took the picture? Yes, I'm a skeptic. Michael is dead. Call me a cynic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFMBaKMRgo

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  56. Josie she lied to him and after she realized how she screwed her self by acting a fool she chases him for years afterwards. His heart had closed towards her. They never remarried and she never had his child/children.

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  57. Hello Bonnie <3

    I am the same page with you as always. I understand that people feel they should give Lisa the benefit of the doubt, but in that a first interview, way back, and there was that the first cut she said about Michael, was all it took. My mouth dropped, and I couldn't believe someone married to Michael could speak about him in such an uncaring and crass manner. I of course also wanted to like Lisa. I thought, she is Elvis Presley's daughter and I thought that would stand for something in her character. I always felt Elvis was a kind man. I still do, and always will. I've never heard anything about him that would make me think otherwise. In fact, I believe he would be horrified at her behavior.

    I truly feel that there is no such thing as a small violation of ones character. I can't be wishy washy about my feelings for Lisa or anyone else who puts Michael down. I don't mean to be harsh or rude, however she has done damage to him. She has intentionally tried to tarnish and trash Michael's character on National television, and as we know, many people who don't know who Michael is, will listen to her lies about him. Taking the time to really sort through her mess takes days, weeks and months. The average person won't do that. They will just believe her because she is Elvis and Priscilla's daughter. So, I am so very sad and feel angry about what she has done. I was praying she would somehow realize what she had done and try to repair some of the damage she has done, but that was a total dream. She has single-handedly crucified Michael, just as much as some others have. I wish so very, very much that this was just a horrible nightmare and we would all wake up and it would all be gone with all of her wrong doings exposed once and for all.

    Bonnie, I appreciate everything you have done, more than I can ever express. Thank you once again. We'll keep strong, all of us who love Michael, and we will always stand for the truth <3 the truth prevails.

    WIth Love and blessing to you always,
    Leslie

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  58. I want to know what changed her mind.

    Michael said she promised him children and then after they married she didn't want children.

    They got divorced.

    Then years later all of a sudden she wants kids!
    She said she'd give him 9 kids if he wanted!

    What the heck happened to change her mind!?

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  59. Could it have been that Lisa didn't believe Michael would have kids with Debbie Rowe?

    Then when it happened, Lisa got jealous?

    Something happened to change Lisa's mind about having children with Michael. Something BIG!


    Lisa does a complete about face here.



    According to Michael, Lisa was hanging around with Katherine Jackson and writing letters to Michael. (page 217 in The Michael Jackson Tapes)

    What the heck changed her mind!?

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  60. Bonnie said, "Essentially, it is a creepy, completely made-up cult, who's prime objective is to operate an elaborate and well thought out ponzi scheme masquerading as a religion."

    Excellent description!!! This is EXACTLY what it is. Money is the "God" in this so called "religion" and the more you have, the more they want to have you as a member.

    I've read articles that have claimed that another reason for Lisa not having Michael's children is because he wouldn't convert and didn't want any of his future children to be raised in that church. I don't know how true this is but it does make sense. In the recent interview, she does talk about her need to feel that they were "united."

    At the end of the day, Lisa does come accross as very cold and hard. Or at least that's the person she keeps showing the world. The thing that confuses me is that there must be another LMP hiding inside that icy shell somewhere. What attracted Michael to her in the beginning to want to marry her and live under the same roof with her? Is anyone here able to see her through Michael's eyes? What did he see? Of course only Michael would be able to answer that question.

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  61. Spotlight said, "Michael was a prince, never once insulting or belittling Lisa after they split."

    Absolutely!!!! Just one of the many things that impressed me about him. His character stayed intact even though those around him showed less than admirable character. Michael's humilty and class was in stark contrast to the arrogance displayed by so many around him. This fact NEVER gets the attention it diserves!!! During the recent Oprah interview, the fact Michael didn't go on talk shows and trash people puplically is never mentioned. Michael's integrity stays intact through all he went through. This is a man who was never malicious or vindictive in his actions. The ONLY person who he trashed publically was Tommy Mattola and Michael had every right to be critical of this very powerful person who was making decisions that directly affect his career.

    Countless numbers of people worldwide have a deep affection for this man over and above his abilities as an entertainer. He had incridible character and integrity to endure all the crap he went through in his life. Ms. Oprah Winfrey, take note!!!!

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  62. For those of you starting to suffer from the "LMP Burn-Out-Computer-Syndrom) LOL, I just read a new conflictual Jackson family/Frank Cascio/Sony story :

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/27/michael-jackson-new-album-pits-his-family-against-friends-estate

    As MJ & MJ3 resided -among other places - at the Cascio's residence & out of story context, this thought came to my mind :

    How come that, upon his return to the US around 2007 did Michal & kids never resided - even for a while - at the Encino family compound with Mom Katherine ? Was it because Michael did not wish 1) by pride 2) or fear that hid Dad or brothers might attempt to get again more involved in his business affairs 3) or because the mansion was already pretty fulled with other family members (Alejandra Jackson & 4 kids, nephews, etc.) 4. Nanny Grace & Bodyguards being too much in the house ?

    IMO this is again sad that Michael between November 2005 till his passing in 2009 wandered so much with his kids : abroad for a while was probably enriching & helping him to recover somewhat. But wandering in his own home country did not contribute to bring him the peace & stability he needed.

    But now at least Michael is the "top-earning dead artist", Elvis Presley being only second : sad victory - life was unfair to Michael.

    http://www.nme.com/news/michael-jackson/53585

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  63. Thank you Bonnie,
    I just wanted to add this regarding your captions on the last two pics. It is what I feel with all my heart. I don't want to comment on the other topics, just telling what my heart tells me and God wants me to do.

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  64. Spotlight...Thank you for the Music and Me video..my heart overflows, and the tears are streaming down my face. Such a love-ly video! Love you Michael!

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  65. @LineCH, your comment about Michael and kids roaming from 2005 to 2009, for me that's been one of the most difficult things to assimilate. And you may be correct that he never spent any considerable time at the Encino home when he returned to US, with so many houseguests always there. I've wished that Michael would have stayed at Neverland after the trial. I know he feared Sneddon would never leave him alone, and he feared literally for his life at the hands of some music industry people, or some deranged fool who may have been dissatisfied with the acquittal. Tom Mesereau says he encouraged Michael to leave the States for a while; perhaps that was Michael's intention, after "awhile" to return to Neverland, but sadly that never happened. Leaving NL under those conditions had to have torn him up. I can still see his children (from the pix) so happy there when they were small. Pray to God Neverland can some day be returned to what it was, a true memorial to a loving kind soul who only wanted peace and harmony for the children of this world.

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  66. Hi Bonnie,
    Brett Livingstone-Strong (the Strong wasn't always there) is an artist and was a friend of Michael's. Michael commissioned him to paint the work now known as "The Book" which sold not so long ago for $2.1 Million. He also has his own online art gallery page dedicated to Michael: http://www.michaeljacksonart.com/categories.php?cat_id=28&sessionid=7h50d808h7v4eqitipotpig

    I had previouly read his interview from a separate source about how he met LMP and introduced her to Michael to assist with her singing career. The point is that Michael was always too much of a gentleman to really discuss whether she pursued him or not but she always made out in her interviews that Michael manipulated her into the relationship. According to Brett Livingstone, the relationship was her idea.

    The initial introduction was made in 1992 when Michael was completely focused on his career (Dangerous Album and Tour). I very much doubt that he would have had the time to go looking for a long term relationship but it evolved over time. So, who was the manipulative one in this relationship? According to this guy, LMP did the chasing.

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  67. @Spotlight said “Think about this. Remember that Lisa Marie, just like the rest of us, knows that Oprah has not been in Michael's corner - ever, and we can assume Oprah's audience pretty much thinks the way she does. Food for thought...Lisa Marie knew she was in like-minded company! Is this someone who deserves kid glove treatment? Michael is the one who has been stomped on, not Princess Presley!”

    This is very true. It’s not like Oprah leading her with her questions and Lisa was lead by without her intention. I don’t believe in that. Lisa is not a child that needs to be lead by someone. If she has a true love in her heart for Michael no amount of leading is going to shatter it. The lady has no LOVE. Got it.

    I have read in some blogs and comments trying to put all the blame on Oprah for leading her and giving Lisa a free pass for her unloving and unkind actions towards Michael. Yes, Oprah has her own agenda and she is the most despicable human being, and none of us will forget what she did to Michael; however, blaming the entire outcome of the interview solely on Oprah is denying the pain and the anguish Lisa Marie created in Michael’s life.

    Think like this, Oprah was not the one who advised her or lead to lie to Michael when they were married, and Oprah was not the one who told her to go around the media and badmouth him. Yes, when she interviewed her in the past and this time, she lead her to talk about the allegations and the drug, which is what interest Oprah the most anyway, but Lisa also collaborated gladly and it seems like it’s her agenda too, and it’s not like she was forced with gun pointed to her head. That’s why I totally agree with Spotlight when she said “Lisa Marie, just like the rest of us, knows that Oprah has not been in Michael's corner.” Again if Lisa has LOVE, at least like us (fans love) forgetting that she was a former wife and spends many wonderful time with him, she would shut Oprah’s mouth by firmly told her the truth about his innocence and the drug use.

    What I don’t understand is this so called former wife traveled with him to visit children hospital, orphanage homes, and saw many unprivileged kids coming to Neverland to have the happy moment of their day. How come she never talks about that? If I were his friend let alone his wife and I witnessed his unconditional love pouring to those children, that will be the things I would talk about in every media I put my foot on. Didn’t you? I have not heard her saying not one thing about it. But we have seen her pictures traveling with him to children hospital and so on.

    To me, she has the most wicked her heart that ever exist. What she did to Michael, especially going to the media and mocking him just like those tabloids so called journalist do knowing how much they tortured, vilified, and making him like a monster for years, is terrifying. Can you imagine this? I can’t take it. I never ever felt good about her from the get go ever since I saw that MTV appearance and the kiss. I don’t know but I felt like, by her body language, she didn’t even want to kiss him. And she said she didn’t know about the kiss, for God sake she was supposed to be a wife, she didn’t have to know. I forgot what she said about the kiss this time around. I think the story changed if I remember. The point I am trying to make is she is a horrible liar who has no love for the greatest loving man that every exist on the planet.

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  68. OK. I understand Lisa may not have wanted kids by Michael because of:

    1. He was too Immature to be a Father.
    2. He was NOT into Scientology.
    3. Lisa didn't want a Custody Battle.
    4. Lisa said he had a Drug Addiction.

    But my question is What CHANGED HER MIND?

    After all these reasons NOT to have his children
    She Divorces him.

    THEN, Years Later.........

    ....She is willing to give him 9 children!

    WHY?

    What the HECK Changed Her Mind?!

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  69. I am going to try to answer my own question, here

    After all Lisa's reasons NOT to have children with Michael she changes her mind because:

    1. After she Divorced him, she realized how much
    she really Loved Him?

    2. She called Michael's bluff, and AFTER Debbie
    got Pregnant, Lisa got Jealous?
    ________________________________________________

    And Maybe.....................................

    All this "Michael Bashing" from Lisa, is really because, Lisa is a Sore Loser.

    Michael would NOT take her back, so she is trying to "Save Face."

    After all, Michael got what he wanted and Lisa is left with egg all over her face!

    And the Whole World sees it!

    Her PRIDE is Hurt.

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  70. Nita "Dear Bonnie, this is the article about Debbie Rowe"

    Ms. Rowe was born Catholic & converted to Judaism upon her marriage with Richard Edelman (1982-1988)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Rowe

    Tina/Bonnie : didn't mean to bypass - was for help only

    Josie : "What The Heck Changed Her Mind ?"

    My belief : her mind was simply twisted ! she did not accept to be bypassed herself (typically Alex Carrington-Dynasty series) LOL. Elvis Presley's little Princess, do you imagine ? Elvis Presley however has all my respect.

    The "Idiot" song video shows a beautiful girl physically, ie. a female look-alike of her father when he was young. But her expression on that Video was a bit evilesque - not so made-up only for the video, as I think.

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  71. lineCH said - "ow come that, upon his return to the US around 2007 did Michal & kids never resided - even for a while - at the Encino family compound with Mom Katherine ? Was it because Michael did not wish 1) by pride 2) or fear that hid Dad or brothers might attempt to get again more involved in his business affairs 3) or because the mansion was already pretty fulled with other family members (Alejandra Jackson & 4 kids, nephews, etc.) 4. Nanny Grace & Bodyguards being too much in the house ?"

    I don't have a definitive answer for you. I can tell you that with what I have been able to look into in regards to what was going on when Michael got back stateside, that there was something else at play and it was not in Michael's plan to stay there.

    You look at what has gone on since Michael passed and the turmoil surrounding that family. Think about that and think about everything that has gone through TMZ and think about how much of that MAY HAVE BEEN planned to happen. Remember, it is of my OPINION that AEG was trying to help Michael and certain things were done to protect certain assets.

    With that in mind think of how these people have been exposed to work so far. They inflitrate and cause division. They've done it with the fan base and I'm sure they have been doing or TRYING to do it with the family as well.

    With the family divided and suspicious of each other, it weakens defense and support for Michael, for the estate and the children too. They've been doing it for 20 years. They are experts at it.

    If Michael and company KNEW and were familiar with the tactics of these people (think Samantha DeGosson and Michael figuring out who she is and what her "job" was), they probably suspected they'd be back at work in high gear once they knew Michael was back in the states and preparing a revenue-generating concert.

    If I am even close to being right, Michael had to appear to be at odds with his family. What happened June 25th is anyone's guess . . . but I surmise this is what they were trying to do when someone got to Michael.

    That is my BEST . . . educated and researched opinion.

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  72. Josie said: "OK. I understand Lisa may not have wanted kids by Michael because of:

    1. He was too Immature to be a Father.
    2. He was NOT into Scientology.
    3. Lisa didn't want a Custody Battle.
    4. Lisa said he had a Drug Addiction.

    But my question is What CHANGED HER MIND?

    After all these reasons NOT to have his children
    She Divorces him.

    THEN, Years Later.........

    ....She is willing to give him 9 children!

    WHY?

    What the HECK Changed Her Mind?!"

    _______________________________________

    GOOD QUESTION!!! Here's my answers as to what changed her mind...

    1.) Daddy's songs were a part of Michael's ATV catalog.

    2.) Without MJ her career may NOT get off the ground. (This is why when her attempts at getting back with him failed, she resorted to the Talk Show bashing circus.)

    3.) The mindset: I'm Princess Rock n' Roll... How DARE he get married and have children and move on without ME??? (Insert temper tantrum from hell here...)

    4.) It has also been said that the thing that impressed MJ about LMP was the fact that she "never took a dime" when they divorced (The Michael Jackson Tapes, by Boteach). Well... first, why SHOULD she? She already inherited more than enough from the Presley Estate. Second, how much did $ONY pay her to get in close with Michael? Hmm... Third, do you find it ironic that only AFTER divorcing MJ and publicly bashing him, that her career finally took off??? Well gee... take note of her recording label being Capitol records...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Records

    NOTE: Capitol is in turn owned by EMI, EMI is in turn owned by Columbia records, which in turn is owned by $ONY. See this:

    RCA sold its stake in EMI in 1935. RCA retained the Americas rights to the "Nipper" trademark (which was used by EMI's HMV label in other countries) because of its earlier takeover of the Victor label, which owned the US rights to the mark. In 1938 ARC-Brunswick was taken over by CBS, which then operated Columbia as its flagship label in the United States and Canada.

    However EMI retained the rights to the Columbia name in most other territories including the UK, Australia and New Zealand, and it continued to operate the label until 1972, when it was retired and replaced by the EMI Records imprint. In 1990, following a series of major takeovers that saw CBS Records acquired by the Sony Corporation of Japan, EMI sold its remaining rights to the Columbia name to Sony and the label is now operated exclusively throughout the world by Sony Music Entertainment; except in Japan where the trade mark is owned by Columbia Music Entertainment,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMI

    And...there is your answer...

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  73. LineCH - The wandering Michael did with his children in my opinion was to keep people from finding and learning what he was up to. Trying to keep people away from him. We already know he was being "stalked" by certain "interested parties".

    Remember the shell game I mentioned in previous posts in regard to his lawsuits, finances and managers? (keeping people from following a paper trail). The same was being done with Michael and it added to the "lore" that Michael was unstable and wearing out welcomes with various friends.

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  74. Josie "What The Heck Changed Her Mind ?"

    Possibility nr.2
    The Scientologists maybe pushed her to be back after Michal again. Such a wealthy artist like Michael, lost to the Sientology ?.. too much wealth lost to them !

    One thing is sure: although very hurt, he did not marry LMP again because he saw crystal clear in hers & Presley's family mind, unfortunately too late.

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  75. Bonnie : "The wandering Michael did with his children in my opinion was to keep people from finding and learning wahat he was up to."

    Right, Bonnie. I actually forgot earlier today that good point of yours.

    Thank you.

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  76. Bonnie "If I am even close to being right, Michael had to appear to be at odds with his family."

    Warmest thanks again, Bonnie, for your long & comprehensive answer (especially now when you are so busy). I read the long comment carefully & adhere to this theory of yours .. & the truth for Michael will be difficult to find with all these bad elements around his family.

    Take good care !

    BTW : there is a person with my real first & last names in Facebook but she is young & probably living in France while I am 61 & living in Switzerland. I again am not in Facebook registered.

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  77. Thanks LadyAquarius and Bonnie. :)

    By the way, Karen Faye BS has made it to the press today http://news.softpedia.com/news/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Was-Very-Evil-Little-Princess-to-Michael-Jackson-163199.shtml

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  78. Bonnie – I was thinking about something. Let’s say that in 2005 Michael told LMP some people were after him to kill him for his catalog, and he also told her their names. He wouldn’t be talking about AEG since they weren’t involved in his life as such. If they (AEG)are the ones he was talking about , he wouldn’t be making a concert deal with them knowing they are after him kill him. Right?

    Even though we believe he did not tell her based on their relationship, the fact remains to be true that Michael knew some people (he even knew exactly who they are) were after him to kill him way back 2005 or even earlier. So AEG should be out of the picture. Right?

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  79. @ SkyeMoon: "By the way, Karen Faye BS has made it to the press today http://news.softpedia.com/news/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Was-Very-Evil-Little-Princess-to-Michael-Jackson-163199.shtml "

    Oh boy...now KF is REALLY "toast"!!! So much for her ever trying to wiggle her way out of this one. Oh well...

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  80. @ Mimi: "I was thinking about something. Let’s say that in 2005 Michael told LMP some people were after him to kill him for his catalog, and he also told her their names. He wouldn’t be talking about AEG since they weren’t involved in his life as such. If they (AEG)are the ones he was talking about , he wouldn’t be making a concert deal with them knowing they are after him kill him. Right?

    Even though we believe he did not tell her based on their relationship, the fact remains to be true that Michael knew some people (he even knew exactly who they are) were after him to kill him way back 2005 or even earlier. So AEG should be out of the picture. Right? "

    You would think that this would NOT include anyone affiliated w/AEG. At least not then.

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  81. "Did you settle your mediocre mind
    You had the fine wine you're better off with Bud Light"

    Don't know if someone already pointed this out as I haven't read through all of the comments, but I understood this as LMP referring to herself as "fine wine" and Debbie Rowe as "Bud light".

    Other than that not much more I can add, aside from being completely convinced that LMP is one of those highly manipulative women who think their ish don't stink. I'm certain (partly by her own admission) that she played a game with Michael, she wanted and did leave him only to make him run and chase after her, the woman obviously can't get over her huge ego and needs it stroked on a daily basis to feel good about herself.

    Another thing I wanted to say/ask, I am so not convinced that the annulment note is actually Michael's handwriting, it just doesn't look like his handwriting at all. The only poor attempt to make it look like Michael's is in writing of his name - as for the rest of note, it looks like they had no other writing o f Michael's to compare and try make it look like he wrote it. I've seen many notes of Michael, and this one just doesn't look like his writing at all, IMO.

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  82. I found this today on Radar online a woman who claimed to be Billie Jean Jackson suing Judge Mitchell Beckloff said Lisa Marie has been stalking her. did anyone sees this? I thought it was funny.

    You can read the whole article here:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/10/exclusive-woman-claiming-be-billie-jean-suing-judge-600-million

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  83. Lady - Thank you for your research. I concur . . . Catalog/Elvis songs and Sony-assisted recording career (Bandier/Mottola and of course, Branca).

    Josie - In a nutshell, 2 possible reasons Lisa Marie went back after Michael:

    1. She was TOLD to if she wanted a career in music.

    2. Possible Scientology pressure.

    But I think this had more to do with the catalog and a conditional offer with a label for Lisa.

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  84. Btw, one of Karen Faye's statement in defense of lMP being interviewed by Oprah, when some fans criticised her for that given how Oprah bashed Michael (ie molestations), was that LMP was not aware of Oprah's bashing!!! I KNOW no one believes that, but that was her defense. Well, given the new-found friendship with LMP, one would think KF would have informed her of this.

    KF is angry when fans criticise LMP and wants us to forgive and forget just because SHE supposedly came to now understand LMP and made peace with her (she doesn't disclose what exactly made her "understand" LMP better now enough to have achange of heart about her).
    So she defends LMP and was all FOR the interview and thinks LMP did a fine job in talking "truthfully", yet she bashes Katherine and openly states that "respect is earned, not given merely because one can reproduce" (yet another diss at Katherine IMO) and accuses her of never loving MJ as a son but as a commodity, all bcuz Katherine was interviewed by Oprah!!! So LMP is given a phony excuse that "she didn't know" about Oprah bashing MJ (don't know how, they did it together) and claims LMP really loved MJ (after all her bashing), but denies that Katherine ever loved MJ. And then she dares to call those who are critical of LMP hypocrites, static, unstable, excuses herself because "she isn't perfect", "she's awork in progress", "she talked with LMP and got her side of t he story and now they're friends", fans who don't buy their BS are so "against everything Michael ever stood for"....It is so low to hide behind Michael's love and forgiveness and use him to hide or deflect from her not so nice of a character, trying to make fans for guilty for "not being like Mike" and "Mike would not like this". Then she blocks ya (like that is something significant, talk about EGO) and then if you ever write a tweet with her Twitter name in it, here comes her most ardent friend and follower to convince you how good she is and everything else is lies and one should only believe Karen. LOL

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  85. LineCH - I will keep the Facebook facsimile in mind, LOL. I know we have gone off to do some digging with this blog, but the theories are still there and I have not abandoned them. Putting the pieces together before the picture gets framed. This is for justice and that comes first. Learning about these people and bringing it out into the open is part of that. No way Michael went through all this for nothing.

    You mention me being so busy and I am laughing reading that. I am sitting here (you have to see this picture) in my office in the lower level. The office is CLEANED OUT, the laundry room is empty, the Family room is empty. Upstairs movers are taking the remainder of the furniture out of the house and the boxes of dishes, wall fixtures, but my desk and my computer are still in tact and I am typing. I told them this is the LAST THING that goes! LOL! They should be taking it out of here some time tomorrow. (panic!!!) They are leaving one bed, one love seat and the little kitchen table, which we will take away in our cargo van.

    Back to Michael's family and the bad elements around them. There are still more to uncover I am sure.

    Thank you lineCH. God Bless. I will hopefully be back on here Monday or Tuesday.

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  86. Skye Moon LMP Fan - Oh boy...Well Karen never denied writing it, only that she no longer feels that way. Why I have no idea. Lisa has to appeal to Michael fans there are way too many of them that buy music. Karen has a makeup line she is trying to get launched and between the both of them, they have plenty of ammunition to put into a book which Karen had mentioned wanting to write as little as a year ago. She has since said she now didn't want to do that when she put up her blog.

    Whatever their plans, the scrutiny is going to kill them.
    ------------------------------------------------

    Mimi - We knew it wasn't AEG before Lisa Marie said this as other people close to Michael have said that Michael told them they wanted to kill him for his catalog. Dick Gregory talked about it. Several of Michael's brother's spoke about it. Lisa Marie jams it in the conversation like it was a novel thing, but you're right. In doing so on National television on Oprah, she helped bury Sony's attempt to make it look like AEG did it, buried TINI and their agenda and the "Karenettes" and the Stalkers as well.

    However, don't feel sorry for TINI. TINI is reorganizing and through Ron Sweet will be capitalizing on their own MJ merchandising and trade business. This can ONLY be done with permission from the estate AND Sony.

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  87. I told myself last night that I would not post any more comments on Lisa Marie, but I must be a sucker for punishment! Some of you may have seen this clip, but it's worth seeing again to validate our impressions of this incredibly callous woman.

    For a two minute clip, LMP was so offensive here that it left me in tears, to think that someone this shallow and dead inside could have had the gall to humiliate Michael this way. I am thoroughly disgusted with her, and the more I watch, the more I see a woman who should be mud wrestling with the likes of Charlie Sheen. (Sorry, Charlie - consider yourself lucky that she didn't hook your tuna!)

    After watching the clip of the famous "Kiss" at the MTV Awards, Sawyer waits for Lisa Marie to comment. LMP looks at the monitor, pauses for a second, then turns to Sawyer and says:

    "OK...MY ARMS WERE TONED!" (Spoken with total deadpan)

    Sawyer was despicable in asking LMP, "but what about the way he looks?" and presses the question about her sexual attraction, to which LMP replies:

    "I'M NOT ATTRACTED TO MEDIOCRE OR NORMALCY...UH, UH, I'M WIERD..I DON'T KNOW...I'M WHACKED!"

    Then with a sickening and hyper laughter, LMP describes how her mother called after seeing the kiss and said, "oh no, you didn't marry him, did you?" - and says the following to Sawyer:

    "SO I WAS JUST THINKIN' YOU KNOW...WOO-WOO! THAT'S GAME ON FOR ME...MOM DOESN'T LIKE IT...LET'S GO!"

    (Yeah, we know, it was a just a sick little game for you, wasn't it? You have no shame!)

    The constant fiddling with her hair was enough to make me grit my teeth. There wasn't a shred of sincerity and kindness coming from this person. Michael and Lisa Marie - another version of "Beauty and the Beast." Anyone care to guess which is which?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsRK0GFSF-k

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  88. Okay...I did it! Read about it all here...

    MJFam/Twitter News
    http://ladyaquarius62.blogspot.com/2010/10/mjfamtwitter-news.html

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  89. @Lady,
    I checked out your link. For these people to be adults its alot of juvenile behaviour being displayed. What may have started as a positive has spiraled into a negative. To me, this is a direct example of what turns a positive into a negative if it all was a positive in the first place. I just hope that those involved on the positive will continue to be just that, POSITIVE.

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  90. Bonnie ~ I don't want to taint your beautiful new blog post with anything about LMP but you brought it up there and it was brought up here too...Lisa Marie's reported jealousy of her children's affection for Michael.

    I was taken aback by that news. The reason? I have for some time been under the impression and confused by hearing that LMP's children did not like or feel comfortable around Michael. Why? I read or heard/saw those words come out of someone's mouth somewhere. I don't remember if it came directly from Lisa Marie or somewhere else.

    Can somebody help me out here?

    I can't be the only one left with that impression/confusion and I think it's an important point to address in vindicating Michael.

    Thanks!

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  91. Hi bonnie, this is a little off topic but I wasn't sure where to write this.

    Michael has often spoken about how he feared for his life. Now I know Michael would not say this if he really did not know it, or feel it.
    I am wondering, what happening for him to feel someone wanted to kill him and his children? Those people obviously knew who his children were so they weren't strangers.
    He could have been scared, or skeptical about legal fights for his ATV catalogue, but to feel threatened to the point of death.

    It's hard to explain, but someone did something or said something to Michael. What made him so sure they were after his and his childrens life.

    I think this information is vital.

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  92. Truthbetold: "The reason? I have for some time been under the impression and confused by hearing that LMP's children did not like or feel comfortable around Michael. Why? I read or heard/saw those words come out of someone's mouth somewhere."

    You're right. Over the years there has been some reports of such, but for the most part, the fact that LMP's kids and Michael did get along and have fun was the main theme. Only AFTER the divorce, did the phoney baloney stuff come out about her kids not feeling comfy around MJ or that they thought he was wierd, etc. started up. But, for the most part I will say this... Presley doesn't seem to be a stupid woman. She says stupid things but she's not dumb. She wouldn't have put her kids in "harm's way" if she had thought Michael was a pedophile, there is NO way she would've married him in the first place. It's for that reason that I believe that the "tales" of her kids not liking MJ were squashed, and for the most part have now become "M.I.A." (missing in action).

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  93. Truthbtold: Here is a statement made by Riley Keough about MJ for you...

    "Riley Keough has stated that she has deep respect for her former stepdad, Michael Jackson, as she appeared at his funeral and memorial service in July 2009. Keough has also stated that she had no contact with him, but she did have very good memories with him." http://www.thefullwiki.org/Riley_Keough

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  94. The letter shown is not a Michael's letter, it is absolutely not his handwritting.

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  95. toupietara, yes, it is hard to determine if this is his hand writing but I thought I'd add another sample. This was written sometime in the last couple years of his life to some fans standing outside his house.

    Note the capital "E's" and capital "I's." There is a lot of similarity. Also, when he wrote quick notes, his writing tended to be a little messy with a mix of script and printed letters.

    Another handwritten source:
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=kba8ah&s=5

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  96. I don't know how true this is, but I had heard that Lisa Marie married Michael because Scientology were trying to get Michael into the "fold", as he was a big "fish", as far as they were concerned. They do appear to make a bee line for celebrities. Apparently, Priscilla Presley in the past commented that she wished Elvis had joined, as they would have helped him with all his debts!!! Makes one wonder. I don't think that Lisa Marie loved Michael, so anything is possible.

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