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Michael Jackson Justice: This is NOT It . . . And Never Was...

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Thursday, October 7, 2010

This is NOT It . . . And Never Was...

October 3, 2010 – This is Not It , and Never Was


Together we are continuing to dig into ground that until recently we had no idea contained so much toxic waste, garbage, lies and sinkholes.


During the investigation of TINI, some interesting dates and alliances have been unearthed. I was trying to follow a timeline of the existence of TINI. Below is some of the disturbing information I found:

“In August 2009, a judge approved a deal between Jackson's estate, concert promoter AEG Live, and Sony Pictures. The agreement allowed Sony to edit the hundreds of hours of rehearsal footage needed to create the film. Sony subsequently paid $60 million for the film rights.Source 

Sony edited the film? So why did Karen Faye and those involved with TINI accusing Ortega and AEG of editing it to favor Michael’s good stretches of rehearsal? How many times did we hear Karen and Samantha talk about the manipulation of parts of the film edited to make Michael “look good”? Remember Karen saying she didn’t understand why Ortega allowed the admission of the footage dealing with the ear piece?

That is because Kenny didn’t. Sony did the editing.

This changes EVERYTHING we have been told about the putting together of this film. Sony had ample opportunity to not only choose the worst of the footage and market it through their “network” as the best of the footage, but they had plenty of time to alter stills and frames from the rehearsal used in the film, and send it out through people in their network like TINI, to begin their campaign against AEG. Their contract with AEG “gave them the right” to edit over 100 hours of it!

Once the rights were sold to Sony, AEG really had nothing else to do with the film other than collect their little percentage via their positions as producers. AEG had no control of the content after Sony bought it.

We don’t have the exact date of this, but maybe we don’t even need it. “This is Not It” has a list of press notices and releases listed on their site at this location:

http://www.this-is-not-it.com/en/tini-press-coverage.html lists THIS SOURCE in May of 2009 as a reliable resource that Michael may already be dying or close to death? A source that lists Michael’s home as a “French style chateau filled with gold” . . .

Are we serious, TINI? That’s almost as pathetic as Justice4some’s constant referencing of Roger Friedman, another Sony pocket-journalist. Could TINI have been tipped off that Michael was indeed going to die? And if so, who tipped them off? This article was in May of 2009 BEFORE he died! Plans were already being laid?

This gives the appearance of a campaign in the planning before Michael died on June 25, of 2009!

This “reliable” resource also states further down (attributing a Tohme quote to Phillips):

“Phillips’s main worry has been how to keep Jackson away “from all these characters I have to fend off from his past”. He won’t name them, and you hope they don’t include more litigious parents. One is almost certainly Jackson’s former spokesperson, the American PR Raymone Bain, who served during his spell in Bahrain. Claiming to have instigated the AEG deal, Bain is now reportedly suing Jackson for $44m. Phillips says he has built “a protective wall to stop people getting to him the way they used to”. (This was actually Tohme’s quote in several other articles) Jackson has tried to reconvene what he calls “the old team” — that is, his collaborators from the glory days of the 1980s. Frank DiLeo, his former manager, who, according to Phillips, “has a real good way of dealing with Michael”, is back on board. His original producer, Quincy Jones, however, declined to help Jackson with new recordings and has reportedly warned others to “be careful” when dealing with him.”

Let me name them . . . Branca, Bandier, Mottola, Malnik (who tried to get back in via “Blanket”), Weitzman, Ratner, Courtland Lauger, Trudy Green, Sneddon, Dimond and more . . .

If the last sentence is not a group of words taken out of context, I don’t know what is, but then these people have been doing this for 20+ years and are experts at it. The article inaccurately quotes Randy Phillips, taking an old quote that Dr. Tohme made in another article before Michael died and putting a slightly different spin on it. The article contains an incomplete sentence (proofing is not their strong suit, but then, I’m not perfect in that department either…) in reference to Raymone Bain’s contributions to the AEG deal. However, we do not actually know how far back this deal actually goes since one of Sony’s other plants also wrote an article containing quotes that Randy Phillips had been trying to get Michael into a concert deal since 2007.

Regardless of who actually claimed to “build a wall” around Michael in their various articles that contradict each other, the fact is that the people TINI seem to be beating on are the very ones claiming to have built the wall to keep the Sony vultures away. Maybe they were more successful then they liked because the vigorous attacks on AEG by TINI, Karen Faye, and the Samantha DeGosson crowd have been non-stop.

These follower/stalkers of Michael Jackson’s have little to do with Justice for Michael, nor do they have any concept of the love he stood for. This is what the follower/stalker/TINI members are about. http://www.michaeljacksonjustice.com/Followers_correspondence.htm

This professional, international campaign against one company (oh, and Sony too, they said, however they are not going after anyone in Sony at all. I’ve seen no mention of Tommy Mottola or John Branca or Marty Bandier in their condemnation). However, they link to such professional and mature web sites such as these (yes, this is facetious):

People TINI lists as links on their page: twitter.com/MUZIKfactory2, twitter.com/Justice4MJJ ,

mjfansboycottsony , twitter.com/Taaj2001 , mj-777.com/.

Just looking at the additions of Taaj and Muzikfactory2’s twitter account gives you a real good idea of the integrity of this site. Anyone aligning themselves with someone who would curse out Jackson family members on their twitter account complete with racial slurs and epitaphs is certainly not Michael-justice oriented. The ONLY thing these people have been successful at accomplishing is victimizing others and marketing lies. They couldn’t even convincingly photo shop pictures of their constituents with Michael. Maybe they should hit up Kenny Ortega on how to “edit” pictures, because they stink at it.

Is TINI’s objective to attack the Jackson family? Because that is what they are doing! How does this help Justice for Michael?

What exactly is it that TINI, the follower’s and Karen Faye have done toward justice for Michael? I have a short list:

- They lied about how close to Michael they were

- They built up a fan base that they then splintered

- The postured and pontificated about their closeness with the Jackson family

- They suckered a lot of people into a mindset of a sickly, barely walking Michael

- They lied about Michael’s drug addiction (autopsy report refutes them but they still persist)

- They set up, recruited for, and closed down facebook groups

- They taught others to set up fake facebook accounts to spy on others

- They tried, then failed, to convince others that they were working with Jackson family

- They attacked anyone proving they lied and then . . .

- They went on the attack OF the Jackson family when they were exposed.

- Produced photo shopped pictures with various Jackson family members but mostly Michael

- Done everything within their power to promote themselves and their delusions

However, Michael has been lost in the dust they have kicked up in their aggression towards those truly defending Michael and those who were helping him.

Would Michael’s true fans act like this? Link to correspondence web page. http://www.michaeljacksonjustice.com/Followers_correspondence.htm


Press coverage of TINI upon and shortly after their launch:



“Organized by fans from various countries, several of whom spent substantial amounts of time following Jackson since his 2005 criminal trial on child molestation charges, This is Not It is a forum for shared grief and outrage at Jackson’s death. The fans’ stories are often very personal and emotionally wrought -- as are the allegations against such Jackson confidantes as his manager Frank DiLeo and AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips.” Source 

This press release mentions NOTHING about Sony. It is all AEG targeted, specifically naming Randy Phillips and Frank DiLeo as subjects of their wrath.

“A group of Michael Jackson fans have launched a campaign coinciding with the upcoming release of the deceased star’s concert movie that is to raise awareness about what they say is the grim reality of Jackson’s final days. Details of the campaign, dubbed This Is Not It as a play on the movie’s title of This Is It, can be found at www.this-is-not-it.com.”



Another source put out by TINI

Sunday, October 4, 2009 - 11:41

“Miss Moonstreet:


about THIS IS NOT IT campaign and who they are


all the info in this post is from the fans behind THIS IS NOT IT campaign. Im not a member of this group but I am a supporter of their campaign


moonstreet” Source

“The campaign IS about trying to help reveal the TRUTH and encouraging people to watch the movie with a CRITICAL EYE and UNDERSTAND the movie will not portray the entire picture of Michael's condition and who was responsible for his NEGLECT. It is about educating fans, the public, the media...and NOT let those who should have listened and cared for his condition (but chose instead to have gained from greed and profit) have the last word. We will not be silent while they attempt to clear their conscience through a biased movie.” Posted on October 3, 2009 at this link by someone who said they are NOT a member, yet had all this information about them.

I have bolded the text above, considering we now know that SONY Pictures was who edited this “movie” and not AEG. AEG sold the rights to Sony, so we see where this campaign was aimed.

This is also proof that TINI supposedly had inside information about how the movie was going to portray him. Since at this point only AEG and Sony had access to clips and pictures of “This is It”, how did a group of fans get this information BEFORE TII IS EVEN RELEASED? Who gave them the photos to pass around and post on facebook page by TINI members?

This same source also posted and quoted:

“5. The testimonies by Marika and Sandy are factual, more will be posted soon by those of us who feel strong enough to speak publicly and share what was personal experience and never expected to be made so public. We have no reason to lie, nothing to gain, no profit to realize. No one else in Michael's life can say that (sadly, not even his family, his children not included.)”

No reason to lie? Nothing to gain? Was this necessary to mention? Nothing to profit? They claim that no one else in Michael’s life, including his family, can claim that? How pretentious of them. Shall we post another reminder? The Followers Sony Luncheon 


They had nothing to profit. I would like to know how they were able to sustain themselves while following Michael every day for the last eight months of his life, and who “fans from various countries, several of whom spent substantial amounts of time following Jackson since his 2005 criminal trial on child molestation charges”. How did they eat? Who bought their computers that they create multiple facebook pages with? How did they get from country to country trying to follow him? Who bought them the vehicle they followed Michael around in all the time? (Michael finally had security call the cops on them during one Samantha-taped episode, where she told the police she was “following her husband”). How did they afford all this. What job did they have that allowed them to stalk Michael day in and day out for eight-plus months? Were they ALL self-portrait photographers like Samantha, or does Samantha really need that many assistants?

Here is what Michael TRULY thought of these women. I guess the body guards were right. Source
You will see Michael tell Talitha to “Back off and don’t come any closer” at 3:52. Thank you for this source K.A.

Same source further down:

“7. Despite the supposed leaked autopsy, we believe that Michael weighed much less than 136lbs at the time of his death. We can safely speak for all of the "followers" that none of us believe he was "healthy" as this latest report claims. Karen Faye can also corroborate as she did indeed prepare Michael for his final resting. We spoke with her at the cemetery on this very day. She is in agreement that Michael weighed 108lbs.”

These “fans”, “followers”, whatever you want to call them, want you to believe that an unrelated group of girls (some guys . . . one guy that I saw), who can afford to follow someone daily for eight months with no jobs (unless that WAS their job), even being able to afford to follow him to London and yet could pay for a state of the art web site with trademarks (one which is borrowed from Sony and enhanced with dripping blood) and a world-wide campaign with network advertising, are qualified over an autopsy report to determine Michael’s weight. Let’s not forget that Karen Faye “agreed” that Michael weighed “108 lbs” and she has been just a bastion of integrity in this whole thing.

But aren’t those pictures of Michael in such an emaciated state, promoted on TINI, DeGosson, Faye and passed out on Michael Jackson fan sites proof of his ill health?

Well, let’s compare some of these pictures, taken from the rehearsal footage that according to this group and Faye were all within the last three days of his life (save a couple of publicity shots during the Dome Project a month earlier).






TRAILER OF “THIS IS IT” MOVIE RELEASED ONLINE



3 min - Sep 14, 2009 Official


Uploaded by Thesdgs7o

youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxz8gR-vsk&p=CACADC0E3AA3B16D&playnext=1&index=9



FILM DEBUTS ON OCTOBER 28, 2009



PRESS RELEASE FOR FILM DEBUT SEPTEMBER 16, 2009 source 



When did Sony purchase the rights to “This is It” again?

Sony Purchases Rights to “This is It” from AEG for film deal on August 10, 2009

“In August 2009, a judge approved a deal between Jackson's estate, concert promoter AEG Live, and Sony Pictures. The agreement allowed Sony to edit the hundreds of hours of rehearsal footage needed to create the film. Sony subsequently paid $60 million for the film rights” Source 

“CULVER CITY, Ca., August 20, 2009 - Sony Pictures Entertainment and Sony Music Entertainment announced today that Michael Jackson This Is It will be released exclusively for a special, limited, two-week engagement worldwide, with the studio pushing up the debut of the film by two days, to Wednesday, October 28th. Due to the anticipated demand for this film, tickets for the two-week presentation will go on sale in most cities beginning on Sunday, September 27th.” Source 

Sony announced . . . not AEG . . . Sony!



Videos uploaded before the launch of This is It?



4 min - Oct 5, 2009
Uploaded by MJ777HealTheWorld
youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYdqyizpn5A



And this one:



4 min - Oct 12, 2009
Uploaded by bariqthekiller
youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxpT6O4wLgs



How did they get film footage for these videos before the film was released? Before then all we had on Youtube was the trailer.

Mr. Tim Leweiki’s Quote about the lies in the press about AEG:


"Some of the things that people have said about us, which are so untrue, this movie's going to restore his legacy, and prove that we, in fact, gave Michael a second chance here. And an opportunity to make the kind of comeback he was dreaming of. And that we created an environment for him that was probably the best environment that the guy had the last 10 or 15 years of his life. And I'm very proud of the way we treated Michael, and very proud of the partnership that we had with him. And this movie is an opportunity to celebrate that, and we could get past all of the gossip and all of the innuendo." Source in “controversies” 



Well, the movie did not restore Michael’s legacy, but it did aid and abet Sony in their campaign and cover up once they got a hold of it.

Michael went to Vegas with Ortega to see a show on May 5th. Michael was pictured smiling in quite a few of the TII photos. These are the photos that have not been passed around by TINI.

Michael with Kenny Ortega










These are the photos that have been passed around by TINI



Here Michael looks more like Yoko Ono than Michael.  Michael has never had an adams apple like that.


Another photo-shopped gem.  And the cold sores Taaj claimed he had?  Shadow of the microphone and the same brown patch he's always had on his nose, depending on how much makeup he has covering it.





Strange Coincidences with TINI -



“This is Not It” Disclaimer –
http://www.this-is-not-it.com/en/disclaimer.html  This disclaimer not only warns against using trademark infringement (like the Michael Jackson Logo that Used to Belong to Sony but I guess can be used and modified with dripping blood without Sony enforcing their own trademark infringement rules). Also at the bottom was a W3 validation, which leads you here http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fourdisclaimer.com%2F%3Fi%3Dthis-is-not-it.com

W3.org is a donation supported international organization:

“The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an international community where Member organizations, a full-time staff, and the public work together to develop Web standards. Led by Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee and CEO Jeffrey Jaffe, W3C's mission is to lead the Web to its full potential. Contact W3C for more information.” Source http://www.w3.org/Consortium/

Their members? Amongst other big name corporations, Sony-Erickson. Source, http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List  This is a validation that comes with a price. Since Sony-Erickson is one of the PARTNERS of the W3.org, TINI probably got their validation for free.

If interested, information on W3’s CEO, Jeffrey Katz http://www.w3.org/People/Jeff/

I have to tell you, for a bunch of fan-groupies all over the world, this is one of the most sophisticated and organized web site launched campaigns I have ever seen!

The followers as they call themselves? Well, Michael was not as enchanted with them as they would have you believe.

Whatever their agenda is . . . TINI, the stalking fans and Karen’s campaign against truth, it most certainly was not in Michael’s best interests. There is an anger there defies reason.

Now Charles Thomson has been recruited to cut into AEG (he’s out of hiding now, welcome back Charles) as well as Randy Taraborrelli and his trolls being sent to my facebook page. Little do they know I don’t do my work on Facebook . . . why would I? I do my work on my blog. And they know where to find that.

Keep saying your protection prayer. God Bless you and watch your friend requests.

130 comments:

  1. I only have one question? That is, why do you feel that AEG is not guilty for anything? IMO they were there, they were partners with $ony and they could have helped Michael if they had a heart.
    They didn't so they are just as guilty. Whether they were there in 1993 or not, they were there in 2009 and could have intervened if they were not "guilty".

    (I say/ask in general discussion, no malice)

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  2. @LonelyTruth, hope Bonnie doesn't mind me answering (she'll correct me of course, if I'm wrong) - the point Bonnie is trying to make here is that Michael's health was NOT as deteriorated during those last weeks as the Tini group wants us to believe, therefore - AEG did not help Michael because he did not need help, and his death was not determined by how frail and sick he was, but by something that only took place on June 25th.... Bonnie please feel free to comment on this, it's your blog! <3
    May I say the part of the video with Michael telling Talitha to back off gave me the chills. I don't recall ever seeing him that icy cold to anyone, it was frankly upsetting. I can't help but believing he must have had some very good reason to speak like that.
    Thank you Bonnie, even though my head is still spinning. I still find it very hard to get. And I don't understand why the family is sueing AEG, then.

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  3. Lonely - I didn't say AEG was not guilty for anything. I only said they are not guilt of what TINI and the rest of that clan have accused them of. Every single accusation they have made, has been disproven.

    How do you know they did not help Michael? How do you know they didn't do their damndest to protect him and someone still got to him? How do you know they didn't intervene?

    For over a year, people have been conditioned to believe the garbage that has been put out there by people who have even less integrity than the politicians in California.

    When I first begain this whole thing, the first person I "studied" was Michael.

    Then I began studying the people I thought were guilty. What I uncovered in the process tells me that a few people put out a lot of money and did a lot of work to try and protect Michael.

    Why do you think Sony is spending so much money on "followers" and bloggers across the globe to publicly denegrate AEG while AEG has been silent? AEG has not gone on the attack, AEG is not paying bloggers to write lies about Branca, Mottola or Bandier, AEG has done NOTHING but sell a load of footage to Sony. Sony did the editing, Sony is paying the bloggers, Sony had complete control over the footage and photos from TII.

    If you look at what they have done, you will see these pieces come together.

    Yes, AEG was there and I believe they TRIED everything they could to keep these people away from Michael. What happened in that house that morning only Michael and God know. But I am also very confident that the truth will come out. It's in plain site, all I am doing is blowing the dust off it it.

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  4. Simo - Someone sent me that video and I agree with you on Michael's tone of voice and it was scary because he must have known something even then about these people. And they STILL FOLLOWED AND STALKED HIM THROUGHOUT THE TIME HE WAS TAKEN FROM US.

    I was THANKFUL for that video but I was also afraid for Michael and Paris . . . too late! I am very happy also to know that Security was trying to keep them away from Michael because that tells me that SECURITY WAS ON MICHAEL'S SIDE!

    Thank you Security guys!

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  5. Simo said - "the point Bonnie is trying to make here is that Michael's health was NOT as deteriorated during those last weeks as the Tini group wants us to believe, therefore - AEG did not help Michael because he did not need help, and his death was not determined by how frail and sick he was, but by something that only took place on June 25th"

    Michael was not sick. The only people that have said that Michael was sick are associated with TINI. Michael was, by everyone else's testimony, just fine, a little on the thin side, but he's never been big (2002 was his heaviest that I've seen him), and Oh my gosh . . . 50 years old! The pictures I am getting back from Jim I will post to that web page as I get them. He is double checking the possibility of the altering for me. Amazing what we can be lead to believe if we don't check info out for ourselves.

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  6. Simo - The family is sueing AEG because they have to. Think contracts and paper trails.

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  7. LOL . . . I just saw something CT wrote in regard to R. Terrible-ellie. The "demonisation" of author . . . you know who.

    Charlie first of all mispells "demonization".

    Then he neglects to mention that Terrible-ellie brought all that on himself by demonizing Michael Jackson in his one and only book.

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  8. Thank you Bonnie :-)
    I'll be waiting patiently.
    Ok, NOT patiently, but still.
    When rage overwhelmes me I try to only concentrate on Michael.
    He's the best anti-stress therapy for me. Bless his precious immortal soul, and lots of love to you.

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  9. Hey Bonnie. Still here. Waiting and watching things unfold. These are interesting times, if you are watching. Can I say thanks for lifting the dust-covers off of those TINI characters. Never trusted them, but that was just intuition. Michael supporters really need to take a look at the facts you have gathered here.

    The truth has already happened and we only await perfect alignment for revelation. One Love.

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  10. Bonnie said- "I just saw something CT wrote in regard to R. Terrible-ellie. The "demonisation" of author . . . you know who.

    Charlie first of all mispells "demonization".

    Then he neglects to mention that Terrible-ellie brought all that on himself by demonizing Michael Jackson in his one and only book."

    Now Bonnie...play nice. Charlie is British. How he spelled demonization in his language: demonisation is correct for the British. Not the American English. The British tend to insert S's where there should/would be Z's here in the US.

    Now as for the rest of the blog details...

    When you drop a nuclear bomb, you drop one heck of a one!!! I can just hear the screams from "Team $ONY/Phoney" now...

    I'm sure you'll draw a heck of a lot of fireworks with this entry but it's worth it. The TINI crew won't go down without a fight, but it's like they say...the evidence speaks for itself. It's up to the people to decide whether to continue believing the lie, or accept the truth. But TINI is EXPOSED for the frauds they are nonetheless.

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  11. Oh and as for Taraborelli, he HAS written other books. I mention such to be fair, but for the most part, they too have been dismissed as tabloid-fodder.

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  12. Bonnie, I have heard from those I consider in the 'know' that Michael was very upset about this group of Samantha's because they were getting too close and one pushed Paris. At that time, Michael added security, he tried to maintain 'Boundaries' between this group and his children. When it was just him, he eased up a bit, but according to this LA Journalist, she said that Michael was actually fearful of them. This of course is hearsay, but it all makes sense. I wrote this months and months ago, along with my distrust of KFaye and her using MICHAEL'S FANS for self promoting and sending them out to her dirty work, along with De Gosson. Months ago, it was like I was delusional, but follwing the timeline and doing much reading it does all start to fall in place. These giggly naysayers who think they have established some self importance because of the groups and cliques they have formed really have no idea who they are 'working' for. It is mindboggling how these forces have taken over and all I see is them hurting the Jackson Family's search for JUSTICE, for Michael's children to be safe and for Michael's legacy to be one his children will continue to proud of as well as Michael's real fans. Stalkers and Liars are not fans, they are as guilty of Michael's death as what happened inside his home in the early hours of June 25th. With everything riding on these concerts, Michael did not need to worry about his children's safety and his safety as well. They just really don't 'get' what they did. These so called 'FANS' of Karen Faye's and Samantha&Co. they do get it, they carefully exploited and lied for what? Could they see $$$$ in their future, as I do believe that is the path that Karen Faye will pursue,, that is the end story for her... $$$$$, as well. Self Gratification. I am sure if the Jackson Family had more time to organize, KFaye would not have been the one to be given the honor of preparing Michael. She has since ruined that in the eyes of those who can read between the lines.

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  13. On MJ's health - Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins also support Faye's assertion that MJ was losing weight. Bush says MJ was 'bone thin'. These people hav been around MJ in these circumstances for a long time. I think they knew what was normal for him, and what was not. The fact that they put emphasis on this implies it was not normal.

    Also listen to Brian Stoller, 'He looked emaciated. I've never seen him that weak and that thin. He was just very frail and he gave me a hug and i felt his bones, you know his back bones and his shoulder bones.' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhr9x45nnSA (4.30 onwards)

    In my opinion this is not just TINI saying those things. Have MJ's bodyguards spoken out about TINI? Have they commented on whether MJ was interested in their presence or not?

    About Malnik - he never really was trying to 'get back in' imo. He made a very tentative claim that he could be an executor. It is clear from what he says that he himself was very unsure whether he had been placed as an executor in a will.

    'Mr. Malnik, for example, said that in 2004 he agreed to be the executor of Mr. Jackson’s estate. “I said yes, but I never inquired further, and I don’t know what’s happened since then,” he said. Mr. Malnik said there was still a chance that he was an executor, but had not heard anything since the death. Other advisers said that Mr. Jackson left behind at least two wills.' http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/business/media/27finances.html?_r=2&ref=global-home

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  14. Thank you Bonnie for this major information. What an interesting findings Bonnie. It makes really sense to me that Sony edited the footage because AEG sold the right of the rehearsal to Sony as is not edited version.

    This is almost scary. You are right how did they know that Michael was on the verge of dying on May of 2009, and what reliable resource told them? Well, how come they say this though when Michael was at the rehearsal on the 23 or 24 of June, if I am not mistaken, before he died?

    Isn’t MUZIKfactory2 advocates to boycott Sony and why that her pages links on TINI site? Are they using her and the likes maybe to confuse people? I don’t understand.

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  15. What do you think Sony is ultimately guilty of in this entire equation? Just greed...or murder?

    What is your opinion of the email to Tohme/AEG contract with Michael?Do ou think it was in AEG's favor, Michael's favor or unbiased? What do you think of Tohme/Rowe/DiLeo all being around with Tohme and DiLeo seemingly working together in some fashion though DiLeo effectively replaced Tohme?

    Sony paid a mere $60 million for the footage with 90% going to the Estate (in due time). Who do you think won in that situation, AEG or Sony (or the Estate)? What do you think about Sony and AEG's relationship in reference to "The Da Vinci Code"?

    What do you think was the motive for Michael's death or more precisely, why is he no longer with us? Who is to blame, blame for what, and how and why so?

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  16. Bonnie – why AEG sold the rehearsal footage to Sony? I always wonder. Is it because the songs he was using for the concert belongs to them too? Wow!!!!! Sony edited the footage. And AEG is blamed. Amazing.

    For any person who really pay attention with clear mind it is very obvious that TINI not telling the truth. I found out this long time a ago when I visited their site and read all that testimonies. I am asking this question to those of you who still believe Michael was sick, frail, unable to walk, and practically had no energy and couldn’t do anything how in the world he rehearsed even for a few hours with these kind of deteriorated health conditions? Can you do that if you were in his position? I can’t. I can’t even function and do my daily chores with simple headache. Can you please answer this? I have been waiting to find an answer what kind of human being can go through rehearsal that requires extraneous movement with sickly body or are you saying Michael is “different” than any one of us and he can do it with deteriorated body?

    When I saw the TII movie I saw a slimmer Michael than usual but not a sick and on the verge of dying Michael. So why are you insulting our intelligent? We have eyes and intellect that can analyze and look through lies and deceptions.

    Those of you who are fooled by the garbage TINI feed you what I can say is I am sorry for you. However, it’s not too late to open your mind, eyes, and heart and go back from the beginning and examine and find out how you where duped to believe what are not true. Please do it for Michael’s sake because he needs you so bad in the fight for justice.

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  17. @Simo – thank you for saying this and it is very true. “When rage overwhelms me I try to only concentrate on Michael.
    He's the best anti-stress therapy for me. Bless his precious immortal soul, and lots of love to you.”

    It is amazing how he handled all what happened to him all his life. And now these so called fans trying to capitalize and fill their pockets in his name. I wish they live him alone and us who care so much for the truth to come out and justice be served.

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  18. Simo said - "Thank you Bonnie :-)
    I'll be waiting patiently.
    Ok, NOT patiently, but still.
    When rage overwhelmes me I try to only concentrate on Michael.
    He's the best anti-stress therapy for me. Bless his precious immortal soul, and lots of love to you."

    I agree with you whole-heartedly . . . wait! You know what? No, I can't honestly say that. Michael has caused me MORE STRESS this past year than anyone else, or I should say his cause has done so. Michael usually makes me cry, but if I watch videos of his home movies and such, they do give me a smile.

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    Judith says - "Judith said...
    Hey Bonnie. Still here. Waiting and watching things unfold. These are interesting times, if you are watching. Can I say thanks for lifting the dust-covers off of those TINI characters. Never trusted them, but that was just intuition. Michael supporters really need to take a look at the facts you have gathered here."

    Hey you . . . lurker! I know you are still there. Dust covers were heavy. Had to have help actually. You can thank Lady Acquarius, Jenn, Mimi, Truthbtold, Spotlight and a few others, but mostly thank TINI. It is because of their action that much of what was uncovered was proven.

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  19. lady said - "Now Bonnie...play nice. Charlie is British. How he spelled demonization in his language: demonisation is correct for the British. Not the American English. The British tend to insert S's where there should/would be Z's here in the US." and "Oh and as for Taraborelli, he HAS written other books. I mention such to be fair, but for the most part, they too have been dismissed as tabloid-fodder."


    Okay, okay . . . I'll leave Charlie's proofing alone. Besides, I just saw the errors on my text and now I gotta go fix. I hate trying to type with a broken hand!!

    Taraborrelli - I've never heard of any other books from him. I've only ever saw or read the one. Were they all about MIchael?
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    Jenn - I know, they try to promote everyone that questions them as "delusional". Just know you were not alone. It happened to a lot of people. They aren't scholars in how to win friends and influence people, but they do know how to bully. I had also heard that Michael was untrusting of that group and railed against them for knocking into one of his children (Think it was Paris). You know what is remarkable? Michael's cool knowing what these people were. This is not the same "soft", "nervous", "fragile" no way! Michael was admirably commanding and very much in control. These instances debunk every fallacy put out there of his condition and mental state since the trial.

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  20. Jenn something else you brought up is the safety of Michael's children. If you want to get my ire up the worst thing you can do is use someone's children to get at them or to hurt them. These WOMEN, how they can not only talk about Michael's children like they care more for them then Michael's own family, but to have knocked into them in their quest to get close enough to make Michael nervous really, really gets to me!

    I pray to GOD those children are safe and that those mentals are kept away from them!

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  21. Katherine - Bush and Thomkins get their pay from the same people Faye does. With that said, I will credit Bush with having less to do with the limelight than Faye has had. However, I also want to point out that Bush was one of the few invited to Bahrain to visit Michael (Karen was not), and I can't speak for Thomkins because I don't know, nor have I researched HIM . . . but Bush worded the answers during his interview very carefully. Michael has always been thin (except 2002). If you listen to the M.C. who was interviewed about introducting and hugging Michael at the O2 press conference, he spoke of a "buff" Michael with a muscular back. Now I am of the opinion that that person at the March press conference was NOT Michael, but those who think it was can chew on that information.

    I didn't say Michael was not thin . . . he was. What I am saying is that stories about his ill health were extremely exaggerated to the point of being out and out lies, with the assist of more altered pictures. Look at them. How can he drop all that weight and change the shape of his face in one or two hours during the same song rehearsal in the same day in the same outfit?

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  22. Katherine . . . who does Brian Stoller work for? What is his profession? His background?

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    Mimi - Yes, Muzik as well as TINI allow and promote the boycott Sony site. Look at who put that up. TINI also said on their very site that they do not support a boycott of This is It or Sony because they do not think it will be effective. Talk about a defeatist attitude for the very cause you seemingly promote. They have named not one guilty party within Sony either. Only the company in general. They have been concentrating on AEG/Phillips/Anschutz/Tohme and now Jermaine (???)
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  23. Nikki -

    "What do you think Sony is ultimately guilty of in this entire equation? Just greed...or murder?"

    - both . . . plus attempted murder over the last at least five years.

    "What is your opinion of the email to Tohme/AEG contract with Michael?Do ou think it was in AEG's favor, Michael's favor or unbiased?"

    - possible fake like most of what has been put out online by these people. Spin it any way you want.

    "What do you think of Tohme/Rowe/DiLeo all being around with Tohme and DiLeo seemingly working together in some fashion though DiLeo effectively replaced Tohme?"

    - Not sure what you mean about Rowe being together with DiLeo and Tohme. Never saw them together. I believe Rowe was trying to get inside and failed. Tohme and DiLeo I will reserve for another time. I'm not convinced they are bad guys.

    "Sony paid a mere $60 million for the footage with 90% going to the Estate (in due time). Who do you think won in that situation, AEG or Sony (or the Estate)? What do you think about Sony and AEG's relationship in reference to "The Da Vinci Code"?"

    - Branca won in that situation. If it is up to him, those children will never see that money. Just ask Weitzman how to bilk an estate . . . he did it with Cobain and got away with it. AEG and Sony in relation to the DaVinci code? I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you elaborate?

    "What do you think was the motive for Michael's death or more precisely, why is he no longer with us? Who is to blame, blame for what, and how and why so?"

    - Nikki . . . I have 183 entries on this blog explaining all that. Take your time.

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  24. Mimi said - "Bonnie – why AEG sold the rehearsal footage to Sony? I always wonder. Is it because the songs he was using for the concert belongs to them too? Wow!!!!! Sony edited the footage. And AEG is blamed. Amazing."

    AEG could have sold that footage to anyone since they had to purchase the rights to use those song Sony still had publishing rights too. It could be what you mentioned. I believe AEG knew that Sony would bid for the right. What better way to see how the vermin who have been stalking and harassing Michael all these years to be pulled out of the woodwork.

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  25. Wow, the TINI disclaimer page sounds like it was drawn up by an attorney! It is dated May 26, 2009. That is confusing to me. At that time, This Is It was to be a Michael Jackson concert tour. Why would "MJ fans" have a website published regarding a movie, which at that stage was rehearsal footage supposedly intended to be Michael's private property? Why, a month before his death are they preparing to enlighten us as to who is responsible for his death by pointing to a movie compiled of rehearsal footage that hasn't even been shot yet? Rehearsal footage that at that time was supposedly never intended to be made into a movie?

    Are these people really that unintelligent or is something else going on here?

    BTW, he looks healthy and fit in the promo footage, pause it and look at his legs. Something strange though, @1:34-1:35 for less than a second, he has no right arm. Strange. I sent you a screen shot, Bonnie.

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  26. I realize that a few here posting "comments", are doing so with the intent of defending Karen Faye and "the followers"/TINI/Ganesha Om gals regardless of what the findings have informed us of. It's a bitter pill to swallow when you realize that you've spent the better part of the past nearly 16 months since Michael's death, following the wrong people. I don't think that any one of us here are blind to that. But, one thing remains, and that is the FACT that you cannot argue the evidence no matter how hard you try. The evidence about these people is clearly within this blog and is right there, in front of our very eyes...for the whole world to see and read. However, it's like the old adage: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." With this in mind, many will still side with KF and her pals, that Michael himself did NOT like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FYYkOfdMKM&feature=related) contrary to all their boasting, and ultimately the people defending that group have chosen to bury their heads in the sand.

    In any case, such is a matter of personal choice. But most of us here, are not interested in lies, cover-ups, bullying, and whatnotall that TINI is directly responsible for. There is nothing to be gained in exposing these things other than the unearthing of buried FACTS. Worse, TINI supposedly advocates justice for Michael, but yet...it is clear that such is a bold-faced lie. The only goal that this group seeks is the amount of "green backs" in their wallets, and the dissolution of Michael's fan base, and the legitimacy of the screams for justice by the fans where Michael is concerned by causing division, fights, and chaos amongst us. It's the old saying of "divide and conquer" at work here, and those who fail to acknowledge it are doomed by their own actions/inactions. Bottom line.

    If you believe that it is okay for TINI, Taaj, Muzik, and so forth to go ahead and bash Jackson family members, and yet paint themselves as "saints" and/or "innocents", or in Taaj's case--she's now since apologized to the Jackson family members that she offended, and is now playing "kiss butt" and "suck up", but if she thinks that they TRUST her after all she's done? Well...pardon me for laughing because I just can't picture any of the Jacksons as being ignorant, naive, nor foolish enough to do so.

    @ Bonnie: No Taraborelli's other books are about Diana Ross ("Diana Ross: A Biography"), Frank Sinatra ("Sinatra: Behind the Legend"), Elizabeth Taylor ("Elizabeth"), Madonna ("Madonna: An Intimate Biography"), and Marilyn Monroe ("The Secret Life of Marilyn Monroe") to list a few.

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  27. Hold on. Didn't people who were employed by AEG help with the editing of the footage after it was sold to Sony? Kenny Ortega, Paul Gongaware, Travis Payne?

    If i'm reading this correctly, the accusation is that Sony altered the footage to make AEG look bad. They altered it to make MJ look ill. Yet Karen Faye says that it was edited to make MJ look better than what the rehearsals really presented. She has also tweeted some negative comments about Sony. If the raw rehearsal footage revealed a worse situation than the TII film presented (as karen suggests), why didn't Sony show what Karen is talking about?

    The situation actually suggests the opposite. Sony worked with AEG to present the better parts of the rehearsals, altering it to reduce the 'stop-starts', as Michael Bush says.

    Bush has been working with MJ since 1985. Bush said of MJ, 'He grabbed me on the arm and said you promised me you wouldn't tell.' The interviewer then asks 'Tell what?' Bush explains, 'What i'm seeing'. (MJ didn't want the people working around him to complain to the 'powers that be' about MJ's physical appearance). Brian Stoller also suggests that MJ was aware of how thin he had become (mentioned in post by katherine). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lMmiNPh-s&feature=related (4.20 onwards)

    Michael Bush: 'There were just these tell-tale signs, when is someone going to pay attention? Because to me it was blatant. The way he was on stage rehearsing.....a lot of start-stops. Usually when we did a music video with michael they would load the camera with film and they would run it until it ran out. We didn't do 2 bars of the song and then stop. That was michael's energy, he fed off what was going on. (Interviewer - he didn't have his usual stamina?) No, and when you start speaking up to the powers that be and it just seems like it was falling on deaf ears or we'll fix that later or something else would seem like it was more important.' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lMmiNPh-s&feature=related (5.00 onwards)

    If the situation was really worse than what was presented in the film, how can Sony be portraying AEG in a bad light? Has AEG ever complained about the finished product?

    'Kenny Ortega, who was both Michael Jackson’s creative partner and the director of the stage show, is also directing the film, which is being produced by Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega and Paul Gongaware. Executive producers are John Branca and John McClain. The film will be distributed worldwide by Sony Pictures Releasing.' http://www.filmshaft.com/world-premiere-for-michael-jacksons-this-is-it/

    'The "This Is It" film was created by the same team that had been working on the concerts, including manager DiLeo, director Kenny Ortega, choreographer Travis Payne, music director Michael Bearden and Concerts West co-producer/co-CEO Paul Gongaware'. http://www.billboard.com/news/this-is-it-the-inside-story-of-the-michael-1004032063.story#/news/this-is-it-the-inside-story-of-the-michael-1004032063.story?page=3

    I also remember Phillips saying that the film is MJ answering the naysayers from the grave. Sounds like AEG were happy with the end product. So where does that leave the Sony/Tini conspiracy?

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  28. Bonnie asked Katherine- "Katherine . . . who does Brian Stoller work for? What is his profession? His background?"

    Bryan Michael Stoller directed the famous parody of the 1980s Pepsi commercial which features Michael Jackson. The parody The Shadow Of Michael caught Jackson's attention and he telephoned Stoller, a phone-call which launched a twenty-year friendship. They were friends until Jackson's untimely passing in 2009. Michael Jackson was featured in Stoller's feature film Miss Cast Away & The Island Girls (a.k.a. Silly Movie 2). This was Michael's last appearance in a film. Bryan Michael Stoller and Michael Jackson were scheduled to co-direct the motion picture They Cage The Animals At Night, based on the best-selling novel by Jennings Michael Burch. Mel Gibson hired Stoller to write the screenplay adaptation of Burch's book, with Stoller and Jackson signed to co-direct. Stoller was also mentoring Jackson and his three children on filmmaking.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Michael_Stoller

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  29. @ Bonnie: Here's another link re Bryan Stoller...

    http://www.bryanmichaelstoller.com/

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  30. Quirky - "If i'm reading this correctly, the accusation is that Sony altered the footage to make AEG look bad. They altered it to make MJ look ill. Yet Karen Faye says that it was edited to make MJ look better than what the rehearsals really presented. She has also tweeted some negative comments about Sony. If the raw rehearsal footage revealed a worse situation than the TII film presented (as karen suggests), why didn't Sony show what Karen is talking about?"

    What makes you think Karen was telling the truth about what the real raw footage showed? We are still assuming that Karen is telling the truth. She is backing liars and deceivers. Karen said the "best footage" was used. Guess what? Seeing what's come down the pike from her and her girls? I don't have the luxury of believing anything she says.

    You said - "Bush has been working with MJ since 1985. Bush said of MJ, 'He grabbed me on the arm and said you promised me you wouldn't tell.' The interviewer then asks 'Tell what?' Bush explains, 'What i'm seeing'. (MJ didn't want the people working around him to complain to the 'powers that be' about MJ's physical appearance)."

    Karen has been working with "MJ" since 1985 too. What does that prove? Michael Bush's quote is exactly what it was. NO DETAIL WAS GIVEN as to what it meant. Your suggesting he meant Michael didn't want anyone to know about his physical condition. So why didn't he say that when the interviewer asked him? Suggestions can be filled in by anybody.

    Again, Brian Stoller "suggests" . . .

    No one said Michael wasn't thin . . . but look at those pictures of Michael in the same doggone outfit rehearsing the same song taken from the footage and you tell me those photos were not altered? Michael has two different necks, two different jaws and TINI somehow got ahold of footage and pictures before the movie was even released. HOw did that happen Diana?

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  31. Truthbtold said - "Wow, the TINI disclaimer page sounds like it was drawn up by an attorney! It is dated May 26, 2009. That is confusing to me. At that time, This Is It was to be a Michael Jackson concert tour. Why would "MJ fans" have a website published regarding a movie, which at that stage was rehearsal footage supposedly intended to be Michael's private property? "

    EXCELLENT POINT!!!!

    Quirky? Do you want to take a stab at this one?

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  32. Tuthbtold - "Wow, the TINI disclaimer page sounds like it was drawn up by an attorney! It is dated May 26, 2009. That is confusing to me. At that time, This Is It was to be a Michael Jackson concert tour. Why would "MJ fans" have a website published regarding a movie, which at that stage was rehearsal footage supposedly intended to be Michael's private property? "

    NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT SONY DIDN'T EVEN OWN IT YET AND MICHAEL HAD NOT DIED YET!!!!

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  33. Truthbtold - hy would "MJ fans" have a website published regarding a movie, which at that stage was rehearsal footage supposedly intended to be Michael's private property? Why, a month before his death are they preparing to enlighten us as to who is responsible for his death by pointing to a movie compiled of rehearsal footage that hasn't even been shot yet? Rehearsal footage that at that time was supposedly never intended to be made into a movie?"

    Thank you!!! Quirky . . .still waiting!!!

    Truthbtold also said - "BTW, he looks healthy and fit in the promo footage, pause it and look at his legs. Something strange though, @1:34-1:35 for less than a second, he has no right arm. Strange. I sent you a screen shot, Bonnie."

    I recieved it Truthbtold and it will go up on the web site. I need the link though so I can point it out. Sony has been busy haven't they>???

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  34. I first saw it in the one uploaded by Thesdgs7o above, which you linked to in THIS current blog post. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Here's the link again, it's between 1:34 & 1:35, (and again at 3:57 during German subtitles) for less than a second - NO LOWER RIGHT ARM!:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxz8gR-vsk&p=CACADC0E3AA3B16D&playnext=1&index=9

    Weird, huh?

    In this video it's at 1:27 - uploaded by SonyPictures, 14 September 2009:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUniG6F_RzY

    So, it's in the official TII trailer from SONY!

    I don't even know how I happened to see it, I must have paused it right at that second. I think it could be really important to look at TII frame by frame to see what else can be discovered.

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  35. Truthbtold - "Wow, the TINI disclaimer page sounds like it was drawn up by an attorney! It is dated May 26, 2009. That is confusing to me. At that time, This Is It was to be a Michael Jackson concert tour. Why would "MJ fans" have a website published regarding a movie, which at that stage was rehearsal footage supposedly intended to be Michael's private property? "

    Bonnie- "NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT SONY DIDN'T EVEN OWN IT YET AND MICHAEL HAD NOT DIED YET!!!!"

    Worse, there is supposedly over 100 hours of film footage of which we only saw a total of 111 minutes of. So, what happened to the other 98 hrs. and 9 mins. of film??? THAT'S an interesting question now isn't it? WHERE IS IT???

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  36. @ Bonnie: "Karen has been working with "MJ" since 1985 too."

    Correction time here, buddy!!! Not that it makes much of a difference but Karen Faye has been working with MJ since the "Thriller" short film in 1983.

    As far as the whole Bush/Tompkins thing that QuirkyDiana brings up, take note of the quotes by both Tompkins and Bush on this page dated July 4, 2009:

    Read carefully: "On his final night of rehearsal, Jackson “was doing the moonwalk. Everything!” says Bush. “He did the whole show full out at performance level. He was like, ‘When are we going to London? Let’s go. I’m ready.’” NOTE this is Michael Bush who said this.

    Another key and definitive quote where it's bold texted: BELTS AND WHISTLES: Tompkins had to make sure items like this jeweled belt would fit Jackson’s slight 27 3/4 inch waist, but says his weight was not an issue: “He was a bit smaller, but he was always thin.”

    http://elitestv.com/pub/2009/07/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98this-is-it%E2%80%99-tour-costume-secrets-revealed

    Sorry Quirky...your defense of TINI and KF didn't hold water either.

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  37. Thank you for posting MLB's quote lady. Spotlight found this one too:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnMGocGJg4 Michael's vocal coach talking about how upbeat and energetic he was.

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  38. Lady and Truthbtold - Thank you for finding these references. Awesome job! God bless you!

    CAn you guys imagine the horrid conditions Michael had to live in and protect his children in and from whom?

    How do these people sleep at night?

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  39. Bonnie

    Just something to keep in mind; Michael did have a bit of a lazy eye, just like Janet and Katherine. So that hasn't necessarily been tampered with.

    Other than that, I still have to try and wrap my head around how someone can follow another person for so long, I mean, I am single and have a job, but though I don't have any other responsibilities (no children etc) there is absolutely NO way I could invest any of my time in stalking any person. So it isn't hard for me to believe that was their JOB.

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  40. @ Bonnie: You're more than welcome for the help. I KNEW these "bozos" would try very hard to save their sorry tail-ends. But, like you, I'm able to launch a few scud missiles of my own when necessary. If there's one thing I can't tolerate is a liar. Lies hurt more than the truth, and it takes a heck of a lot more skill in order to keep the storyline straight. (Something that the TINI gang and their supporters are failing miserably at. But, I'll give them credit for trying.)

    As for: "CAn you guys imagine the horrid conditions Michael had to live in and protect his children in and from whom?"

    I'm really hurt that Michael already had more than his "fair share" on his plate so to speak. He most certainly didn't need a bunch of nutcases to worry about too.

    As for: "How do these people sleep at night?"

    I'm entirely clueless. Especially in their case. These bozos KNEW that Michael already had issues and worries galore. Why they'd cause him more grief and insomnia is entirely inhumane. Rude is too mild a term, so I chose inhumane. However, karma is a real *itch, and it's coming for them. In fact, it has already started. That's why they've been caught, and there is no escaping it. They are reaping what they have sown.

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  41. Lady & Truth,

    I want to add one more to what you guys said. Here is choreographer Travis Payne saying how Michael looked really good and happy on the last day of rehearsal. He calls it Magical.

    http://www.examiner.com/pop-media-in-national/choreographer-travis-payne-talks-this-is-it-the-last-rehearsal-with-michael-jackson-was-magical

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  42. Hi Bonnie, I spent the last hour commenting and it just disappeared as I went to post, so I'm trying again, it won't be as detailed as now it's past midnight.

    It's nearly impossible to think that this group, TINI, stalked Michael like that for years, but your revelations have really convinced me. He couldn't even walk with his daughter in a mall without one of them, Talitha, glued to him.

    Where you talk about Sony being given the editing rights to the rehearsal footage per the agreement, well, does that mean Sony actually edited the footage or was Sony given the right to edit the footage? The film itself, This Is It, was edited by four people, per IMDb, the Internet Movie Database, an Amazon company. IMDb allows those in the entertainment industry to self-list, and claims to verify before posting. I feel it's no less reliable than Wikepedia, and probably more so.

    Anyway, IMDb lists the editors for This Is It, the film, as Don Brochu (worked with Kenny O. in HSM3 in 2008), Brandon Key, on the production staff of several short docs, The Gloved One, Staging the Return, Searching for the Best Dancers, and Memories of Michael, all released in 2010 through "New Wave Entertainment"; another editor in TII, is Tim Patterson, the second cameraman with Sandrene Orabona, Sandrene having a ten year history in cinematography; the fourth editor in TII is stated to be Kevin Stitt.

    If these folks didn't edit the rehearsal footage (in addition to the film itself) then I'd sure like to know who did the editing of the rehearsal footage under Sony's "right to edit".

    I wish I could get off the fence about AEG; you are very convincing, but I'm not quite there. I still believe Sony, AEG and others are all interconnected, especially when I hear from Randy Phillips own mouth that if Mike (Mikey?) was too nervous he would carry him over his shoulder and that Ortega had to feed Michael broccoli and chicken to be sure he ate. Well, it sounded like Phillips' voice but we sure can't tell these days about anything!

    Bonnie, I'm waiting to be convinced about AEG's position; if Katherine Jackson had to sue AEG (contracts, etc.), I wish her all good fortune in getting to the bottom of her son's murder.

    Thanks for listening - (hope this comment gets through.)

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  43. @ Mimi: Thanks for sharing. So, for the benefit of all the TINI gang and their supporters, there you are: Bush, Tompkins, and Payne all entirely REFUTE your claims. There are others that have alongside them.

    So, WAS Michael "frail and ill" as TINI, KF, and their supporters claim? The correct and resounding answer is NO!!!! There should be no further dispute regarding this. TINI and KF have LIED and they have been exposed for what they truly are!!! The proof is right here, laid out in plain sight. The light of TRUTH is shining...You won't find any "protected Tweets", no suddenly disappearing FB pages, erased Tweets to cover up bashings, or blog entries here. You won't see or read any bashings either. OPEN YOUR EYES real MJ justice-seekers!!! Michael needs you!!!

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  44. LadyAquarius said: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." With this in mind, many will still side with KF and her pals."


    The sad thing about the "newbie" fans following TINI, KF, Sammy & Company is that they were naive and easily led to the water trough, but it wasn't the fountain of truth. They drank the Cool-Aid and swallowed the lies!

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  45. @Quirky - you said, 'He grabbed me on the arm and you promised me you wouldn't tell.' The interviewer then asks 'Tell what?' Bush explains, 'What i'm seeing'. (MJ didn't want the people working around him to complain to the 'powers that be' about MJ's physical appearance).”

    “(MJ didn't want the people working around him to complain to the 'powers that be' about MJ's physical appearance)” is your own interpretation and assumption not what exactly Bush told the interviewer and the audience, right? Okay, since anybody can have his/her interpretation and assumption about what Michael meant when he told Bush “promised me you wouldn’t tell”, here is mine. Bush saw MJ flirting with one of the girl and he didn’t want anyone working there to know about it, so when the interviewer asked Bush “tell what?” that’s what he said “what I’m seeing”.

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  46. Hi again Bonnie, I see my comment got through and I'm still awake tonight so I wanted also to reiterate that I in no way endorse TINI's position. You know, as someone who doesn't Facebook or Twitter, I didn't know much about them until you started these revelatory blogs. When I initially saw their site I thought that's nice, a group of extra zealous fans supporting Michael. What an awakening you gave me!

    We see people getting restraining orders and orders for protection every day. If I ask myself why Michael didn't get one, then I answer my own question. No one would have believed him. But he was in fear for his life and the lives of his children, and these TINI members only increased his insecurities by tailing him around the world. And those phony pics trying to demonstrate closeness to him. How low can you get?

    So Bonnie while I do not share all your opinions on cause and effect about AEG, and I think there's plenty of room for friendly disagreement, I very much appreciate your information and insights (and especially your detective skills!) on these important issues. Did you attend private eye school (she said jokingly)?

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  47. @ Spotlight: "The sad thing about the "newbie" fans following TINI, KF, Sammy & Company is that they were naive and easily led to the water trough, but it wasn't the fountain of truth. They drank the Cool-Aid and swallowed the lies!"

    I can't agree with you more. But, the only way to fix that is by continuing to expose the deceit no matter how much the TINI gang rant and rave. Sooner or later, the Newbies will grow tired of their drama, and investigate things for themselves. A few may even find their way here. After all the TINI gang sure enjoy publicly bashing Bonnie and her blog here enough. So, they're giving her publicity whether they realize it or not. Even though from their end it's negative, if they find their way here, they WILL read...they WILL learn...they WILL question...and eventually? They WILL come to know the TRUTH.

    KF, the TINI gang, and their supporters' worst enemy is not Bonnie nor this blog. It is solely THEMSELVES...

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  48. Lady - "@ Bonnie: "Karen has been working with "MJ" since 1985 too."

    Correction time here, buddy!!! Not that it makes much of a difference but Karen Faye has been working with MJ since the "Thriller" short film in 1983."

    Tanks for correcting me. I knew it was during Thiller, but it was right "around" the same time as Bush. Plz have mercy on me. Need shortcuts. Broken bone in hand, 'kay? :o)

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    Lady - And this quote too: "Read carefully: "On his final night of rehearsal, Jackson “was doing the moonwalk. Everything!” says Bush. “He did the whole show full out at performance level. He was like, ‘When are we going to London? Let’s go. I’m ready.’” NOTE this is Michael Bush who said this.

    Another key and definitive quote where it's bold texted: BELTS AND WHISTLES: Tompkins had to make sure items like this jeweled belt would fit Jackson’s slight 27 3/4 inch waist, but says his weight was not an issue: “He was a bit smaller, but he was always thin.”"

    Man . . . what I wouldn't give for a 27 inche waist again (I don't actually know what my waist is, so I will estimate uhhhhh . . . 28, LOL!)

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    Aida - I have over 2,000 pics of Michael on my computer. Didn't see any lazy eyes. Katherine's eye is (I read) due to a bout with Polio. A lazy eye and an eye that is physically smaller than the other eye are two different issues altogether.

    I have had to deal with a stalker in my past. Never had panic attacks until that happened. It was back during 1998 - 2000 and it is the ugliest, most insecure feeling in the world. To have a PACK of people stalking you day in and day out, camped out at your house? I would have been a basket case.

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  49. June - "Hi Bonnie, I spent the last hour commenting and it just disappeared as I went to post, so I'm trying again, it won't be as detailed as now it's past midnight."

    - I hate it when that happens! How aggrivating! I'm sorry . . .happens to me sometimes too.

    "It's nearly impossible to think that this group, TINI, stalked Michael like that for years, but your revelations have really convinced me. He couldn't even walk with his daughter in a mall without one of them, Talitha, glued to him."

    - I don't think they were called TINI back then, but you're right about it going on for years. at least as far back as 2007 as seen in that video. They probably couldn't get them into Bahrain though.

    "Sony actually edited the footage or was Sony given the right to edit the footage?"

    I read what it said in the press releases. Sony was given editing control. Sony pictures I'm sure has a team of people. Credits on the movie do mention Ortega and the people listed on the film but that doesn't mean that more editing wasn't done after Ortega's team was done with it. Sony had editing control, not AEG or Ortega.

    If Ortega and the rest of the AEG team edited the footage for film, could Sony's team have edited individual frames of the movie after the fact? Yes they could. And we can see evidence of such tampering in the "amputation" of Michael's right arm in the frame that Truthbtold brought to our attention.

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  50. June - "Bonnie, I'm waiting to be convinced about AEG's position; if Katherine Jackson had to sue AEG (contracts, etc.), I wish her all good fortune in getting to the bottom of her son's murder."

    Me too. I pray for that for Katherine and Michael's children every night.

    Convince you? I don't have that power. I am convinced. I can only write here what I've learned. I can't make you SEE IT. Time will do that. Just bear with me. :o)

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  51. @ Bonnie: "Man . . . what I wouldn't give for a 27 inche waist again (I don't actually know what my waist is, so I will estimate uhhhhh . . . 28, LOL!)"

    Oh good grief!!! I'll join ya on that one. After birthing 3 children, it's been about 26 yrs since I've seen that magic number, and it's unlikely that I ever will again in this life to boot! Geesh...

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  52. Mimi - LOL on your example of what Bush could have meant in his comment. Maybe he was talking about Michael's observation of a certain girl during his "road trip" to the Gary house in 2003. LOL!

    I will reiterate Lady -

    "ead carefully: "On his final night of rehearsal, Jackson “was doing the moonwalk. Everything!” says Bush. “He did the whole show full out at performance level. He was like, ‘When are we going to London? Let’s go. I’m ready.’” NOTE this is Michael Bush who said this.

    Another key and definitive quote where it's bold texted: BELTS AND WHISTLES: Tompkins had to make sure items like this jeweled belt would fit Jackson’s slight 27 3/4 inch waist, but says his weight was not an issue: “He was a bit smaller, but he was always thin.”

    http://elitestv.com/pub/2009/07/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98this-is-it%E2%80%99-tour-costume-secrets-revealed "

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  53. Nikki - Your post ended up in the spam folder. I don't know why but it is very long. If you can break it up a bit, I don't mind posting it. Even if you have to make it three different posts, I don't mind. I just need to be able to answer you and the way that is written, I will have no room to quote you. Would you mind?

    Thank you.

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  54. Lol, either way I'm glad that you figured out that I meant one eye smaller than the other. I've seen it in some pictures (not from TII) and not in others, it's the same with me, one of my eyes is visibly smaller but doesn't show on all my pictures.

    Plus, I'm sure as one gets older (heavy eyelids) it gets more pronounced.

    Anyway, just thought to point that out as it is important in terms of credibility.

    Sorry that you too had to deal with a stalker.

    I haven't (luckily), but did get freaked out once when my neighbor (whom I NEVER met or saw but whose roommate I knew) looked me up in the book and called me to ask me out on a date (???), and proceeded to tell me how he's been "watching me" for a month and "that blue dress looks good on you, I saw you today going to the basement to do your laundry." :S

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  55. Wonder what she is going to do about this now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY-hi3CiQC8 Both her (as a FOUNDER OF TINI) and her lying cause. She's going to have to redo her videos. She even showed the photo shopped picture in this video. Unbelievable.

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  56. wow so much posting since i was here.

    The reason I believe AEG to have done nothing to help Michael is because what Leonard Rowe wrote. Yes he may have stretched half truths and wrote it on an angle to make himself look good and slander AEG. But not all of it is false and the bits that are true tell me AEG is corrupt.

    Also as mentioned MLB spoke of Michael's deterioration and a certain photo where Michael has massive bricks on his shoulders (Zaldy design) he is incredibly, sickly thin.

    Thanks for the replies. I can understand where you write from now. As in your understanding of the situation.

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  57. Bonnie - I said "I'm waiting to be convinced about AEG's position"

    You replied: "I don't have that power".

    Bonnie, you do have that power, with your investigative work and wordsmith skills. I'll give you an example. Some time back you said you didn't believe it was Michael who appeared at the initial press conference on March 5th, recalling his "weird" (my word) gestures and lower voice, and you believed it was a body double. I thought, then, yeah, right, whatever. Now, I too am inclined to believe that wasn't Michael at the press conference on March 5th, due in large part to your subsequent information, pictures, videos and blogs, along with similar information on other credible blogs. Did my own eyes deceive me? So I think if I could be convinced to change my mind on an image I observed with my own eyes, I could be convinced, with proper foundation, concerning AEG's culpability or lack thereof.

    There are a lot of us out there, uninvolved with TINI, with no ulterior motive, supporters of what Michael stood for, just looking for answers and justice for Michael and his family, as are you. Changing hearts and minds one at a time is what vindicating Michael is all about.

    You DO offer convincing evidence. Keep it coming. Hope your hand is improving!

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  58. I'm honest. So i do find those articles about bush/tompkins bemusing, especially considering the ABC 20/20 interview. However, all i can say is that they are contradictions. They now support neither side in the debate.

    BonnieL said, 'If Ortega and the rest of the AEG team edited the footage for film, could Sony's team have edited individual frames of the movie after the fact? Yes they could. And we can see evidence of such tampering in the "amputation" of Michael's right arm in the frame that Truthbtold brought to our attention.'

    You really need to prove that Sony went behind AEG's back and altered the footage to make MJ look bad, as you suggest. Have you researched who actually edited the footage to make TII film? Could you provide evidence that proves that Sony deliberately manipulated the footage against AEG's wishes, despite AEG having its own team editing the footage?

    Has anyone from AEG come out and said that they are unhappy with the finished product? Where is the evidence that this is not what AEG wanted? It just seems an absurd allegation without any proof.

    'Separately, the producers of Michael Jackson THIS IS IT announced that Kenny Ortega has been set to direct the motion picture. The film is being produced with the full support of The Estate of Michael Jackson.'

    'The rights to the exclusive footage were acquired from AEG Live and The Estate of Michael Jackson. Sony Pictures and Sony Music will co-produce with AEG Live and the Estate, and Sony Pictures will distribute the film worldwide. Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware of AEG Live will serve as producers of the film.'

    http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/this-is-it

    I would just like to see the evidence that you have.

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  59. Lonelytruth - So what you are trying to convince me of is that a liar, who publishes his lies should be believed about AEG just because . . . why? I don't understand that. What did Leonard tell the truth about because I ripped his book apart in a previous blog.

    June - There are certain things I'm going to have to let AEG convince you of in due time. I cannot put everything on here. But little by little it is coming. Don't worry, I will continue to work on you, LOL :o)

    Quirky - Now they support neither side in the debate? I haven't seen evidence of that either. Unless they are where I am and cannot go beyond a certain point in the information they release without endangering people.

    I need to prove Sony went behind AEG's back? Why? What proof did Sony need to set up TINI behind AEG's back before they sent a network of stalkers after Michael to later accuse them of killing Michael? How much more proof do you need when you see the plethora of photoshopped pictures and altered footage?

    Let me ask you this . . . why would AEG edit a film to make themselves look bad? Why would AEG take parts of Michael's arm off to add a "skinner" version? Why would AEG edit footage and pictures to make Michael look more emaciated and sickly?

    It's not rocket science Diane.

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  60. And Diane - AEG has not come out and said anything since the release of the film. AEG has not attacked anyone, AEG has not felt it necessary to "Stalk" anyone, nor has AEG set up marketing and fake blogs and fan sights to spy on people.

    You are quoting from Michaeljackson.com. That is a Sony owned Site, Diane. There are articles that contradict how the family felt about that film too, so please.

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  61. QuirkyDiana said- "So i do find those articles about bush/tompkins bemusing, especially considering the ABC 20/20 interview. However, all i can say is that they are contradictions. They now support neither side in the debate."

    Apparently they forgot...

    July 4, 2009:

    Read carefully: "On his final night of rehearsal, Jackson “was doing the moonwalk. Everything!” says Bush. “He did the whole show full out at performance level. He was like, ‘When are we going to London? Let’s go. I’m ready.’” NOTE this is Michael Bush who said this.

    Another key and definitive quote where it's bold texted: BELTS AND WHISTLES: Tompkins had to make sure items like this jeweled belt would fit Jackson’s slight 27 3/4 inch waist, but says his weight was not an issue: “He was a bit smaller, but he was always thin.”

    http://elitestv.com/pub/2009/07/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98this-is-it%E2%80%99-tour-costume-secrets-revealed

    Now in response to your: "They now support neither side in the debate."...

    I disagree...the only statements that is believable is their earlier comments, prior to the now commonplace AEG witch hunt. Any statements past July 4, 2009 should be discredited and raise serious questions in the sense of WHY are you changing your story when you initially said...??? I hope you understand my point.

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  62. @Quirky - you asked who actually edited the footage to make TII the film. The four people I listed in my comment last evening, are stated in IMDb to be editors OF the film TII; did they also edit the footage FOR the film? Or is this a question of semantics? Did Sony edit the film AFTER AEG put it together, which would mean Sony edited the film itself and not just the footage "for" the film? I'm going to view TII the film yet another time looking for the amputated arm which, IMO, would be a red flag.

    And I'm still thinking of Kenny O's comment in the film asking the pyro guy if he could "do that X10". If the # of concerts went from 10 to 50 in the space of a week after the 02 announcement, then that clip of Ortega referring to "X10" was shot early in the game, or else he would have said can you "do that X50". Inconsistencies in editing the film, IMO.

    As Bonnie said, some of this will just have to be waited out.

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  63. Part I:

    a. Only the last 5 years? Why do you feel only since then? Evidence seems to indicate that Sony were no longer viewing him as an asset/partner shortly after the Chandler allegations and began pursuing his assets/share then.

    b. If Sony has a hand directly in his death or what not, then what proof do we have as to the best of my knowledge there is no tie directly between Sony and Murray? That being said, do you believe Murray in fact killed Michael and that the cause of death was due to acute propofol intoxication with additive benzodiazepine effect? What is your stance on the autopsy report's legitimacy? What role does AEG have in this situation, that is, if you believe Murray has a role in Michael's death, since Randy Phillips and Frank DiLeo have, in interviews, discussed Murray? Who specifically within Sony is pulling the strings in your view?

    c. If the AEG contract is fake, would it be safe to assume that everything is fake, then? Thus far no one in the fan community has copies of any documents related to Sony, such as the "one billion dollar contract". How do we address that issue? Do you believe the search warrant to be authentic or fake? If most of what is out there is fake then does that discredit everyone's "justice" blog, including yours and mine?

    d. I didn't say Rowe worked with these gentlemen. Pardon for the mistake. What I meant is all three men have claimed to be been Michael's manager at some point throughout the duration of TII. But, considering DiLeo replaced Tohme, why do these men seem to be allies? For example, DiLeo refuses to discuss Tohme (ex. van Exel interview). He directed all questions regarding Tohme onto Murray--the wrong "doctor". Why is there such discrepancy with where these gentlemen were (excluding Rowe and including Phillips) on June 25th? What is your take on people seeing Tohme and DiLeo together in 2008 and 2009, why Tohme had Michael's money after being fired, why Tohme will not address Murray's actions, why he was at the hospital when Michael was pronounced dead, why he still claims to be Michael's manager? The point is--why is someone lying in this scheme? I would ask, do you think they are covering for Sony, but you do not think these men are guilty of wrongdoing so I assume that is a "no". What evidence do you have to lead us to believe these men are just poorly misunderstood in motives and are acting out the kindness in their hearts?

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  64. e. What evidence do you have to show us that Branca "won"? Do we know how much he earned from the deal based off royalties, etc.? Do we know if AEG has "all costs covered" so that the 90% clause becomes effective, then passing on earnings to the Estate? Re: the Da Vinci Code--please see Lynton Guest's book, Epilogue. Have you read this book? I assume with your stance on Sony you would take this book as Gospel. What stance do you have on Guest? Pardon if you have mentioned him, if so I missed it.

    f. I asked you on your stance regarding Michael's death, who is to blame, how so, etc. because I have failed to see it listed in your blogs. I have failed to see you discuss anything in detail regarding Conrad Murray, and considering he by all accounts is the one directly responsible for what we believe to be Michael's death, I find it somewhat perplexing. Perhaps I missed it, though.

    I am aware of your numerous blogs though I had no idea it was 183 postings. I admit, I do not have much time to read other blogs so I have not combed over all 183 postings. I do not have time to reread all 183 blogs so could you please point me into the direction of which blogs answer my questions regarding Michael's death, the motive, who is to blame, and specifically any blogs on Conrad Murray and his (possible) actions?

    Thank you.

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  65. Bonnie – You answered to each and every one who come to your blog with an intention to create havoc with an outstanding and admirable professionalism. Go girl!!!!

    I want to tell you this, about a few weeks back , I asked and post an honest question that came from a place of harmless to one blog you know, and I was hammered and vilified instead of answering my question and giving me the benefit of the doubt that I might be sincere to know about the matter of my question. I was hurt and said “I don’t know everything, and why am I treated like this because I want to learn?”

    Thank you Bonnie, I just want to say this to let you know your approach to everyone who come to you blog is very friendly and loving and I really appreciate that.

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  66. Bonnie, since you are unhappy with the links i have provided on who actually edited TII, could you provide US with some? I am only asking.

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  67. Bonnie,
    WOW! I had no idea Sony bought and edited the "This Is It" film!

    That explains everything!

    Thank You for this information!

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  68. Please find out for me, with links/evidence to back it up, who edited the TII film exactly. A list of all the people.

    June - I would double check that info on those 4 people. You are missing out Kenny Ortega to start with who was responsible for directing the whole film. Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware are Producers of the film. There are others, but i would like bonnie to provide the evidence as she has made the allegation that Sony had larger editorial powers. So did Sony have larger editorial powers? Show me the actual evidence, otherwise it falls flat.

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  69. Nikki - Bear with me because I will probably have to do two parts, then I'm going to neglect to answer any more posts from me because you are deliberately misquoting what I posted:

    A. I did NOT say "only since" 2005, I said "AT LEAST SINCE 2005". Sony wasn't trying to kill Michael until after they realized they lost this case against him after ten years of trying to ruin him with a previous, similar set up.

    B. Well for this part of your argument to hold water, we would have to assume that Murray did indeed kill Michael and we don't even know that yet. We await information about Murray via the trial. I have questions about the autopsy report and the information on it, or missing information on it is cause for doubt. That is something else that will be verified at a later time.

    C. If the AEG contract is fake, yes it would. We don't know. I know that other documents have been "promoted" online as authentic when they have not been. The contract between Murray and AEG that was not signed by anyone but Murray was reportedly found lying on Michael's bed. I find that amazing that a contract would just "appear" on his bed. Did they expect him to sign it after he died?

    D. Tohme and DiLeo - I will not answer that. I suspect why, but I will not answer based on that. Maybe Tohme had another sister . . . (sorry, couldn't resist). I will just say that I believe Tohme has very little to do with Sony.

    E. Branca's own petition and that it was granted that he and McClain make 10% off the top of any increase in the estate. The fact that Katherine and children get a set amount paid to them from said estate every month and that regardless of what the estate takes in, Katherine and children get the same amount. I did the math on a previous blog update. Branca and McClain have made more money this year from Michael's estate then they have paid Katherine.

    You will have to ask AEG about their losses. They don't give me access to their books. I do know that the judge in california has bent over backwards to accomodate Branca against every challenge Katherine has made. I also critiqued Linton's book a while back Search it on the blog, you will find it. NO, I did not agree with everything Linton said and reported and I also know a lot more now then I did when I first read his book. The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction. Linton tries to convince is that Michael was a drug addict which I strongly disagree with.

    F. I have discussed and covered Murray many times up to and including reporting that him and his wife seem to share the same expiration date on a medical license. There is a search box on this blog. It's a lot of info. Murray has many connections that could or could not be legitimate. I doubt the man is a doctor. Too many weird things about his license and background that do not add up.

    As far as who I think is responsible for Michael's death . . . that remains to be seen. Not all the information is present. However, I am pretty firm and have said so on this blog as I dig deeper, who is NOT responsible for his death.

    Thank you for taking the time to separate this out for me so I could better answer you. Nikki, you do good work in explaining the medicals and I respect your research on that. Try pulling back and looking at the overall picture ocassionally. Sometimes the peripheral events tell you what the details won't.

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  70. QuirkyDiana said...

    "Bonnie, since you are unhappy with the links i have provided on who actually edited TII, could you provide US with some? I am only asking."
    October 8, 2010 11:33 AM

    Apparently you failed to look earlier in the comments for your answer...

    june said...

    @Quirky - "you asked who actually edited the footage to make TII the film. The four people I listed in my comment last evening, are stated in IMDb to be editors OF the film TII; did they also edit the footage FOR the film? Or is this a question of semantics? Did Sony edit the film AFTER AEG put it together, which would mean Sony edited the film itself and not just the footage "for" the film? I'm going to view TII the film yet another time looking for the amputated arm which, IMO, would be a red flag.

    And I'm still thinking of Kenny O's comment in the film asking the pyro guy if he could "do that X10". If the # of concerts went from 10 to 50 in the space of a week after the 02 announcement, then that clip of Ortega referring to "X10" was shot early in the game, or else he would have said can you "do that X50". Inconsistencies in editing the film, IMO.

    As Bonnie said, some of this will just have to be waited out."
    October 8, 2010 10:54 AM

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  71. Another one, this one on Sony Pictures:


    Again at 1:27 - uploaded by SonyPictures, 14 September 2009:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUniG6F_RzY

    Thank you hope.

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  72. @ QuirkyDiana who asked: ""Bonnie, since you are unhappy with the links i have provided on who actually edited TII, could you provide US with some? I am only asking."
    October 8, 2010 11:33 AM

    Go here...

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/

    And note...

    PRODUCTION COMPANIES

    * Columbia Pictures (presents) ***NOTE: Columbia Pictures is $ONY owned.
    * Michael Jackson Company, The (in association with)
    * AEG Live (in association with) ***NOTE: Keywords here "IN ASSOCIATION WITH"

    Then, click on Full Cast and Crew...

    You will find the following info here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/fullcredits#cast

    PRODUCED by
    Michael Bearden .... associate producer
    John Branca .... executive producer
    Todd Cogan .... 3D camera producer
    Frank DiLeo .... co-producer (as Frank Dileo)
    Chantal Feghali .... co-producer
    Paul Gongaware .... producer: live show
    John McClain .... executive producer
    John Meglen .... producer: live show
    Kenny Ortega .... producer: live show
    Travis Payne .... associate producer
    Randy Phillips .... producer: live show
    Alif Sankey .... associate producer: live show

    FILM EDITING by
    Don Brochu
    Brandon Key
    Tim Patterson
    Kevin Stitt

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  73. Bonnie said: "Another one, this one on Sony Pictures:


    Again at 1:27 - uploaded by SonyPictures, 14 September 2009:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUniG6F_RzY

    Thank you hope."

    Whoopsie!!! Where's Michael's right forearm??? It "poofed" somewhere. Somebody was "playing" with the film, and forgot about that spot. Uh oh...Tsk tsk...

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  74. Hello Bonnie, there are some very interesting comments posted.
    As I have stated before, I believe some of the inconsistencies are intentional and some are the direct fall out that were counted on if not expected and planned for.
    I also believe that we have only begun to scratch the surface of whats really going on. There is a bigger plan at the root of all this. Those who were determined to ruin MJ may have won a few battles but they did not win the war.
    Look Michael grew up in the entertainment business and not only enjoyed the good but the bad and the ugly side of it too. Experience is often the best teacher. He navigated in shark infested waters continuously. The fakeness thats being uncovered is only a very very small sample of what Michael had to deal with on a much larger scale.
    Karen Faye had been in Michael's inner circle for
    20 years. You don't work with someone for that long and not know them. The same for Michael Bush and Dennis Thompkins. Karen has been more vocal than DT and MB. Confidentiality agreements are legally binding. I believe they are only saying what is expected and their mutual love and respect for Michael the person and their first hand knowledge of some of his personal pain and unhealed wounds bonds them in a way that we can't understand. Show business can also be a low business in many ways.
    The movie....hmmm...although I went to the theater to see it and purchased the DVD has led me to the conclusion that doubles and impersonators were used in it. Bonnie you pointed out differences but the ears were the tell tell sign for me.
    AEG and its executives, in my opinion, were a tool used to spring board a larger part of the plan in motion. Anshultz owns media outlets, theaters and other businesses. Connections connections connections.
    Sony....yes Sony and some of its executives has some blood on thier hands from past battles but Michael and know his estate retained half ownership of its publishing division. Thats huge in itself. Why sell to someone else, keep the money in the same pot so to speak.... Dileo was put in place to oversee Michael's interest.

    Let us not forget that Michael was a very intelligent man that had a strong faith in God and truth not to mention his creative genius. Michael was a innovator. With his passing, projects that had been shelved due to the trial and bad press has given his creations life. One has to think outside the box....

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  75. Diana - You didn't read the blog did you? I have links up there. The press releases. Like Spotlight said, I can put the information out there, I can't read it for you.

    Josie - You knew about Sony buying the rights to TII right? You just didn't know that contract included editing control.

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  76. Diana - Your post disappeared. I clicked publish and it's not here, but I remember you asked me for links that would tell exactly who edited the film. Those links are within the blog as I stated further up. I am not going to keep reiterating something you refuse to read so any more comments from you will be deleted.

    You completely disregard people's answers and refuse to post the same proof you expect others to keep repeating for you.

    If you are going to fight that hard to defend what Sony has done, then please do it somewhere else. I can't yet accuse them of killing Michael any more than you can proof AEG killed him, but we did prove that Sony amputated his arm.

    Some else brought up a good point . . . Sony Pictures would not spend $60 million on anything they don't have creative control over. They paid for the footage, not a completed, edited movie.

    TINI's disclaimer is dated the 26th of May 2009, a whole month before Michael died. Can you explain to me how that is, Diane?

    I've done my research . . . time for you do do your own homework.

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  77. Diane - "June - I would double check that info on those 4 people. You are missing out Kenny Ortega to start with who was responsible for directing the whole film. Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware are Producers of the film. There are others, but i would like bonnie to provide the evidence as she has made the allegation that Sony had larger editorial powers.

    - Diane, your proof is in Sony's own press release:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_This_Is_It+Sony+purchases+rights+to+This+is+it&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Quote:

    “In August 2009, a judge approved a deal between Jackson's estate, concert promoter AEG Live, and Sony Pictures. The agreement allowed Sony to edit the hundreds of hours of rehearsal footage needed to create the film. Sony subsequently paid $60 million for the film rights."

    This is the last post I am allowing of yours on here. I have some links for remedial reading courses if you are still having trouble.

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  78. Quirky, if you are still viewing, the four people I listed last night (with some IMDb background info on each)were the film editors per IMDb and I see, today, LadyAquarius (thank you Lady)has posted the same info and provided the links. In my comment, I was stating the names of those listed in IMDd as "film editors", no one else, as that was the subject at hand; today Lady has listed Ortega, Gongaware and Phillips with their titles.

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  79. MIss Shae - I believe that as well . . .some inconsistencies planned some not. It will all come out in the wash though.

    Michael was constantly under estimated by those who thought they were going to "take" him. Michael needed someone besides him to believe him.

    His faith in God is one of the strongest pulls I feel and also why I believe I am doing what I am supposed to be doing. Nobody that knows me understands this either, but the drive is something I cannot turn off. You know it when you feel it.

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  80. Bonnie, Yes I knew Sony bought the rights to the This Is It Film but I didn't know that included Editing Rights.

    You are right about that and that is what surprised me. I didn't know Sony had the right to Edit the film.

    And Sony did a lousy job, too! Like you said, Michael's arm is missing!

    What a joke.

    Plus, I love the way you put people in their place.

    Ex:
    [I have some links for remedial reading courses if you are still having trouble.]

    LOL that is so good! I love it!

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  81. @ Bonnie: Don't let QuirkyDiana bother you. I think it's obvious...the only things she wants to hear/read are what KF and TINI have preached as a part of their "truth". Unfortunately, she won't hear/read any of that here.

    As far as Nikki: She too seems to be trying to stick up for her "friends." However it's sad because I too respect her medical understanding. But she also fails to respect anyone else's opinions and findings that may at times in turn contradict her own.

    None of us are trained and professional investigators. If we were, we'd all be employed by the likes of the FBI or CIA, but we're not. But, like investigators we DO follow the trail, and what is found along that trail, is the information we use to draw our conclusions. Some may like it, others will not.

    But fighting simply for the sole purpose of sticking up for one's friends in when it's clearly seen that they are or have been wrong, is what is causing the erosion and invalidating of Michael's fans crying out for justice for him.

    So, will there be justice for Michael? It's NOT going to happen. Not if things continue onward in the way that they have been, and stop blindly following a group of women simply because they have pictures (photoshopped or not is entirely inconsequential in my opinion), or those who knew Michael. It's beyond time for the "god/goddess" worshiping to end, and Michael's justice-seeking fans need to start thinking for themselves!!! After all...outside of perhaps Dame Elizabeth...WHERE were these people when Michael needed them the most??? WHERE??? Remember that...

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  82. Bonnie,

    The TII trailer depicting at 1:27 Michael's right arm: I viewed that clip, stopping and starting several times and it looks pretty convincing.

    Then I put the old DVR through its paces starting and stopping, reversing and reviewing the film itself many times at that same point, when Michael was commencing his performance of The Way You Make Me Feel.

    As he begins his spin, arms moving speedily, is I believe when this "amputation" clip shows up in the trailer vid. But starting, stopping, reversing and replaying the film itself at that point leads me to conclude there isn't a frame in (at least that part of) the film itself with this "arm amputation". I'm open to possibly having missed it as it's difficult to capture such a brief milisecond while stopping, reversing and restarting in a fast dance sequence. It might have been in the trailer but I don't think it was in the film or at least not observable. Anyone else want to try it, give it a go.

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  83. A little bit off topic but still relative...

    I believe that Michael was a complex man. Much of him was private, and there was a lot to him that many-- even those that claim they were closest to him saw. Michael showed people ONLY what he wanted them to see. For example: When being interviewed and/or seen by the public, he'd use his velvety-smooth, soft-spoken voice. That voice was NOT his true speaking voice-- which was definitively more "manly" and deeper, and there is proof of such out there. Do a Google, go to YouTube, and you'll find such out. Bottom line. Worse, I think there were parts of Michael that even Michael himself didn't understand or know very well. Let's be fair and honest here...can each of truly claim that we know and understand every single nook and cranny about ourselves??? The correct answer is NO. Michael was no exception.

    Another thing about Michael that is greatly overlooked...Michael in addition to being a consummate performer (dance and music-wise) was also an ACTOR and a darned good one too IMO!!! Michael also adored magic, illusion, mystery, and disguises. One case and point IMO, if you will...Remember the Grammy night that he won 8 Grammys for "Thriller" on Feb. 28th, 1983? Okay...Let's take a good look at this. On the one hand, here he is, in full royal-blue "Sgt. Peppers regalia" (my personal all-time favorite, btw), but on the other hand, he is hiding his beautiful brown eyes behind dark-lensed aviator glasses. (Gosh how I wanted to smash those darned things!!! Ugh!!!) HELLO!!! Have I caught your attention to this yet??? In fact, in many photos Michael is wearing some form of sunglasses. (It drives me insane, but I digress.)

    Why did he do that??? It was a way for him to "hide." A way to keep distance from others. A means of not allowing others to see what his eyes were saying or thinking. Lastly, it was a form of self-protection not necessarily shyness. Let me explain (or try to): I as I also suspect Michael was, am an empath (an intuitive "sponge" of sorts who's able to sense the thoughts and feelings of others like a sponge absorbs water). This is likely the reason why Michael had felt a need to wear his aviator glasses as a means of self-protection. I can understand his possible purpose there, but I would have rather seen his eyes.

    In any case, look at the TINI gang's photos. If they are truly real, just what is Michael wearing? His aviator glasses!!! So, did any of them

    REALLY "know" him? It's doubtful, just as much as it is equally important to note that he was "protecting" himself from them, which in turn indicates a lack of trust on his part regarding them.

    Anyway, when you look at all of these things, this is also why the circumstances of both his life and his subsequent death are in the constant
    state of confusion that they are. One thing says this...another thing says that. This person said this...another said that. Because of this, we may NEVER truly find out all of the answers. Michael J. Jackson was a man of controversy and mystery. He was definitely an enigma, and he enjoyed it for the most part. But, it also had its downside effects as well-- many of which came back and bit him too. By the time he started "letting people in" and actually get to know him, (thinking of the "Michael's Home Movies" and the twisted Bashir doc) it was too late. The damage was too far gone to fully repair.

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  84. Hi Bonnie Thank You for your fight for Justice
    and the truth I can not believe Michael fans base has been
    taking over by the cast of ONE FLEW OVER THE
    CUCKOO'S NEST yes The inmates are in Control of the
    Asylum. How can Real Michael fans who Love him
    and want's Justice for Michael.how can we take
    back the fans base from these crazy women
    AERIAL BANNER Prelin on 4TH of January 2011
    What a joke this have nothing to do with Justice for
    Michael. There is Demonstration on 23nd of October 2010 Justice for MJ in London. I don't know what their
    agenda is but is not Justice for Michael. This is
    so sad Michael fans meant everything to him
    $ony What More can You take from Michael Jackson. God Bless You
    Bonnie Keep up your Good Work. L.O.V.E. to you
    and your Family Please take care $ony MAFIA they
    are Evil.

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  85. Bonnie, w3.org is a free validation service.
    See here for example: http://validator.w3.org/feed/
    I know that very well because I'm a web designer.

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  86. Lady - I know and thank you for pointing that out. Niki I actually someone I see as just being stuck on a mindset and trust me I know how that feels, to trust people for such a length of time that information to the contrary has to be questioned to the very last fiber. Niki has a lot of information about alot of people involved in this and people also have information on her.

    I agree that there are interests involved in this other than justice for Michael. Niki knows it to. But for the most part she has been respectful and for that reason I can't just cut her off.

    The thing that amazes me is that this information that I am finding can be found by ANYONE and has in fact been found by more than just me. Everyone here has contributed to discovery. If it weren't for Niki, I may have only Michael's character as argument for his sobriety. Niki researched and explained the propfol, the autopsy and how long certain drugs remain detectable in the body, etc... We've exchanged a couple of emails regarding this research. Niki will find out who her friends are sooner or later.

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  87. June - I will try it on the computer. Not sure if I will be successful, but I will try. (Michael quit moving so fast! Pow!)

    Lisa - Who was just dying to get some Michael-psycho-analyzing in there. She was itchin! Bet you're glad you got all that off your chest! LOL!

    I believe Michael probably knows himself better than most people know themselves and that is because he has probably spent more time by himself than most people. I agree with you on the "empath" aspect of him. That was definitely one of his gifts and it allowed him to really get to know others in a way that most people can't. You don't write songs and poetry like he does without that gift.

    Hi Ella - Well, I have to agree with you, the banners lately and the previous battle over them with the different groups seemed to have more to do with self promotion than Michael promotion. But that would be kind of presumptuous of me to try to determine individual's motives. Lots of people contributed to those banners that did so out of pure appreciation for Michael and wanted to show their support. I was challenged by Taaj to come out to L.A. (sorry . . . courthouse step battles with packs of fans are not my idea of justice for Michael either). I think I'm doing just fine where I am. Fans don't need to "prove" their committment by flying across the continent to stalk his family. That's not justice, that is harassment.

    Does anyone know how long Taaj has been in the U.S.?

    Ella, thank you and God bless your commitment to Michael and his family.

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  88. Beatriz - Thank you for that info. It didn't used to be free. I know, I used to advertise and consult for web businesses as far back as 1999. Do you have any links to web sites you designed? I would love to see them! I cheat though . . . I use web builders. I know enough html and xhtml to enhance text on a page and that is it.

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  89. @ Bonnie: "Lisa - Who was just dying to get some Michael-psycho-analyzing in there. She was itchin! Bet you're glad you got all that off your chest! LOL!"

    Yuppers..."guilty as charged." :P It's an insight that was worthy of mention. In fact, I liked it so much, I even blogged about it: http://ladyaquarius62.blogspot.com/2010/10/michael-jackson-enigma-subject-of.html

    And, the blogging part? I'm blaming YOU and MJ for. My poor arthritic fingers! Muahahaha... :P

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  90. @June,

    Once the youtube video start playing, pause it and wait until it downloads, once it finishes downloading you will see red line across above the play and volume icon. Use your mouse to drag the white circle until you reach reaches 1:26 and 1:27.

    I hope you understand my explanation. As you said “arm moving speedily” if you want to see it while it is playing. You need to see it while the video not playing by moving the mouse to those minutes.

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  91. Mimi - I think June meant the movie itself, she was trying to find the same frame in the DVD movie. She saw it on the Youtube video. I wonder if watching the DVD and putting that in the computer would make it easier?

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  92. Lady - When did you start your blog?

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  93. @ Bonnie: "Lady - When did you start your blog?"

    I started my Blogger blog on August 8th of this year, but I've actually been blogging for a number of years already. I used to have a MySpace (for 4 yrs.), until it went insane with copycatting Facebook with all the apps. Before that, I had a group site on MSN, and before that Yahoo. I've been online since 1993 really-- I started out with AOL, then switched to when Compuserve when that was the "cat's meow".

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  94. Bonnie

    You probably have already seen it, but Taaj has said on Twitter ( I am convinced she was speaking of you, my connection is slow so I can't go back to check right now) that you believe Mj is "alive" and in "NY", among other bad things she is saying to people about you.

    Where does she even get this from, I've NOT seen anything like this on your blog!

    Urgh it's frustrating when I am not even familiar with all those people but really I don't see much from them other than calling to boycott this and that and making appearances, or am I missing something else? Please let me know.

    And who is this Talitha person?

    Sorry for asking things that may seem trivial and elementary.

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  95. Thanks Bonnie. I knew Sony had bought the rights to TII but I never knew that they bought the editing rights. Somehow with Kenny Ortega directing I just assumed, I think like many people, that AEG were in control of the whole project and that Sony bought a finished product.

    I played the video of Michael shopping with Paris a few times. That girl stalking him at the end looks a bit unbalanced. She's looks like a cat about to pounce on a mouse. What did she think she was going to do to Michael if she snuck up behind him? I sort of laughed because she looked silly but yes, there is a serious side to it as well. Michael looked really cheerful and happy in that video saying hi to people as he walked about.

    Good job Bon.

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  96. Regarding TINI's use of "This Is It" images in their propaganda videos.

    First, I'll add some dates as a frame of reference:

    "This Is It" trailer first aired on MTV September 14, 2009. Janet Jackson performed her and her brother's duet, "Scream" on this same broadcast.

    "This Is It" movie release date in the United States was October 28, 2009. The release date in other parts of the world were a day or two later.

    I'm NOT trying to defend TINI. No way! No how!! Not ever!!! However, it was important to re-aquaint myself with the release dates of the trailer and the movie to determine if TINI had images prior to the trailer being aired. The trailer was aired September 14, 2009 on MTV. The dates mentioned for TINI's video's are early to mid October of 2009. TINI certainly had plenty of time to create and release their video's using images from the trailer AFTER the trailer aired. So far, from what I've seen, all their "This Is It" images are from that trailer.

    (links to TINI videos provided in article above.)

    Source for release of trailer:
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Trailer-for-Michael-Jackson-s-This-Is-It-Documentary-121549.shtml

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  97. CORRECTION:

    "This Is It" trailer first aired on MTV September 13, 2009. Not the 14th. My apologies for the error.

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  98. SandyK and Truthbtold - I agree . . . I don't want politics as a topic diversion on this blog. However, I know the Illuminati has been talked about in regard to Michael and that may be where Truthbtold was taking this. I also agree that it isn't one particular politician, it's all of them. The reason nothing changes is because they are all corporate influenced and U.N. patsies. This is a blog about Michael, Justice and making people aware of what was done to him. This other stuff plays into the bigger picture of the control of information the world over. If we can try to keep discussion to that, that would be great :o)

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  99. Lady - Thank you for your timeline! Now I know a little more about you. ♥

    Aida - Taaj is a liar. Taaj told me back when I was still talking to her that she was working with Joe Jackson, then she said she was going to be working with Katherine, then she asked me to apologize to Randy for what SHE tweeted to him. She's a pathological liar. I never said that Michael was alive and in NY. LOL!!! If I was Michael and I was alive, that is the LAST PLACE I would stay! Taaj is just doing what she's been told by Samantha . . . create a diversion.

    Talitha is another follower that is close to Samantha (friends) and they've been stalking Michael together for a few years. Yes, I agree, she looks like she could use some lithium . . . either that or an invisible fence collar.

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  100. Sandy - Thank you for posting the dates of releases. I guess my question is, how and where did TINI get the images and the time to do what they did? Especially since the trailers Sony themselves released contain anomolies like the altered legs and sleeves, and the missing right arm, etc? Those pictures they put out online have been altered. How and why is their disclaimer for a movie and use of trademarks dated a month before Michael even died? There WAS NO MOVIE MADE YET. He had not died yet. Which tells me they had this planned out before Michael even died. How would they know he was going to die, and how would they know Sony would make a movie of footage they hadn't even bought yet?

    Not only does this show premeditation, this also shows TINI was in on whatever it was Sony was planning.

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  101. That's weird, why did I type that? I said "If Michael and I was alive . . . " I meant to say "If Michael was alive . . ." so please disgregard the "and I" part because I am almost positive that I am alive, and I don't need to prove it, LOL.

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  102. Thank you for your response Bonnie.

    TINI's video's do come under the category of propaganda and deserve to be questioned as to what their agenda really is. This is an important discussion to have.

    Propaganda defined:

    "Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political (or none political - added by Sandy) agenda."

    Source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

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  103. Bonnie said, "I guess my question is, how and where did TINI get the images and the time to do what they did?"

    Surely they got the images from the trailer after it aired. Their material didn't show up until after that airing. I'm a little confused here, what images are you refering too? Do they have material using images from the movie that pre-dates Sept. 13, 2009? All that I've been able to find is posted after this date. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, it would have been relatively easy for them to pull video off of the internet and use it in their material.

    This detail has gotten me consumed right now.

    Bonnie said, "How and why is their (?) disclaimer for a movie and use of trademarks dated a month before Michael even died?"

    Forgive me, but where is the source for this??? Are you referencing TINI or Sony?

    BTW, I'm glad to hear that you're in fact alive!

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  104. Hi Bonnie, about my reviewing the FILM, This Is It, on my DVR, stopping, starting, rewinding, reviewing, etc., you are correct when you replied to Mimi that's what I had done.

    Mimi, I HAD stopped and started the you tube piece at the 1:27 mark a few dozen times, and DO see the issue of the "amputated arm".

    Bonnie is correct when she says I was referring to the film itself, and not being able to find that clip within the FILM, on my DVR, when Michael was commencing The Way You Make Me Feel, despite many stops, starts, reversals and reviews.

    So my conclusion was that while the amputated arm appeared in the trailer per the youtube clip, speaking for myself, I couldn't see it in the FILM itself.

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  105. Bonnie, off topic, there was a really interesting subject on 20/20 last night having to do with the recent (or soon to be) release of an independently produced documentary entitled CATFISH. Innocuous sounding title, right? Not very interest provoking, right?

    If I said the subject matter was false Facebook accounts, trickery, lying, motivation, the harm it can cause to everyone purposely and unwittingly involved, and exposing the posers, would that pique your interest?

    This documentary and the real life persons in it have nothing at all to do with Michael Jackson but everything to do with the potential for Facebook deceit.

    If anyone is interested, google CATFISH. I haven't checked 20/20's site, maybe last night's entire program is posted there.

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  106. Bonnie – that was a very good observation. You are right “How and why is their disclaimer for a movie and use of trademarks dated a month before Michael even died? There WAS NO MOVIE MADE YET. He had not died yet. Which tells me they had this planned out before Michael even died. How would they know he was going to die, and how would they know Sony would make a movie of footage they hadn't even bought yet?”

    It seems to me they were against TII while he was alive and the site was up and running before he died. I wonder if Michael knows about TINI since this happen before he died. I am sure this is a million dollar questions.

    If TINI were against TII, who was feeding them false inside story of what was going on for them to go against before his death? I believe too this was planned and premeditated. I am so frustrated and depressed right now. Why Karen, Samantha and company doing this to him. Why?

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  107. It's okay Bonnie... you said "If I were Michael and I were alive" ... please.. go have a lovely lively day!

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  108. @ Bonnie: "That's weird, why did I type that? I said "If Michael and I was alive . . . " I meant to say "If Michael was alive . . ." so please disgregard the "and I" part because I am almost positive that I am alive, and I don't need to prove it, LOL."

    It's called broken hand syndrome and lack of sleep due to pain. You're entitled to goof every now and then. We're all only human. :P

    And yes, Taaj is back on top of her game yet again. She's even bashing Kenny Ortega on her Twitter, so you rank right up there with Kenny in the bashing! You should feel honored! ROFLMBO...

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  109. @Bonnie,

    Okay. Now I'm really shocked! First I find out Sony has the rights to edit the film and now I find out the disclaimer was dated May 26, 2009!

    A whole Month BEFORE Michael died!

    How could they be that stupid?!!

    Was it a typo?

    Could they say it was a typo and would that hold up in court?

    What do you think, Bonnie?

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  110. Bonnie said ~

    "SandyK and Truthbtold - I agree . . . I don't want politics as a topic diversion on this blog."

    Did I miss something...who are you agreeing with?

    That was on the "White on White" update. What I posted was in response to YOUR Hitler comment Bonnie and our children being hijacked - in the same vein, one way they're doing it NOW. I mentioned one politician because he's the one pushing that particular youth-targeted agenda. But I NEVER said the problem was only him, obviously he couldn't do it alone. If someone takes offense to information about an agenda then maybe they should re-evaluate their political allegiances and remove their blinders.

    I'm not the only one that has commented about global conspiracy. You too have talked about it. Nobody is forcing anybody to read or go to a link. However, some people might find the information VALUABLE!

    Every facet of our lives is a result of politics, Michael's life was saturated with politics. But ok, no politics...whatever that means! Show me the line because it looks very blurry from here.

    Sanitize, restrict information...good strategy. But I'm not the one who turned it into a political debate.

    I dislike most politicians regardless of party!

    "However, I know the Illuminati has been talked about in regard to Michael and that may be where Truthbtold was taking this."

    Pardon?! Speculative accusation based on what? I'm not sure the Illuminati isn't an illusion to deter. I know basically that you don't believe in the Illuminati so why would I bring it up? Search your site, I've never said it. But you and 1 other person have.

    I'm pretty stunned at your non-objective stance in targeting me Bonnie. It wasn't me who ran screaming. But I have now defended my position, if it gets approved.

    Geez, and I spent hours upon hours in the last 24 getting you information. Unbelievable!

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  111. Ok, here's another thing that I don't get:

    Karen Faye, who claims she's doing what she's doing only for the truth and for Michael's fans, accuses everyone else who makes any type of money in relation to Michael, yet she herself (though she claims her services are for free) sold private footage of Michael (when she did that 20/20 interview). When challenged, her defence is "it was her life too and Michael gave her permission to shoot that footage". Am I dumb or is she? Oris she just playing dumb? A friend giving permission to shoot footage of him is not the same as you then making it public and certainly not for money. And what does it have to do with it being "27 years of your life too, not just Michael's"? And then I have a problem with statements such as "Michael wouldn't mind". How can one be so sure? I have friends that I've known for years, and yet I can't be so sure what they would or wouldn't mind all the time, people change and circumstances change. Especially if I had zero contact with them for the last four years of their life, how I can be sure how they may have changed and what may or may not bother them?

    Somehow I don't even believe that her Twitter and blog are "free services to his fans", but I digress as I have no proof.

    And somehow, I don't agree that revealing your friend's personal information (among other things) for free makes you better than the one who does the same for money.

    And as a friend, to be aligned with TINI individuals and not see (or be in on) the agenda, I must question both your loyalty and knowledge on all things Michael.

    Btw Bonnie, this group TINI really does sound scarier (to me) by the minute. I am beginning to read more from various places to reach my own conclusion, and I only see the same old accusations without necessary detail that would sure exist if what they are saying is credible. Only attacks on people who disagree with them without elaborating on topics at hand.

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  112. And about Taaj, it was enough for me to read what she claimed you believe (alive+ NY) to not even WANT to know more about what she says. One thing is to twist words but another is to create a blatant lie that has NO basis in your writings (from what I can tell). It is clear that with it she only tries to divert people from this blog, but it actually has the opposite effect for those who don't like to be told what to think.

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  113. Hi, Bonnie.
    We are friends in Fb.I love your blog and I believe that TII was manipulated by Sony to make AEG look bad and have all the blame for Michael's murder. I have started a cause in FB against the Pearl Jr. book Pseudocide an I received this from someone who believes Pearl Jr. theories and thinks Michael is alive and was one of the editors of TII. Please tell me what you think of this. Do you believe this?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence#p/u/1/qUiXdkqy6iQ

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence#p/u/0/cCX6KcT-5gs

    and they are stating they have more evidence to confirm this theory.

    I think this is so elaborate and not plausible at all.

    LYM
    Anapassionheart

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  114. I watched the missing arm video a dozen times, freeze framing at split second intervals just at that spot, and it's very interesting! This film could have been photoshopped, where the editor could have had a lapse in attention and missed that frame, or there was a glitch in the film, where one frame was skipped, much the way a stylus skips over one groove in a record, and the editor never saw it. Some things to note: just below where the arm ends, you will see a light patch of blue that does not match the darker blue of the horizontal stage structure behind Michael. Why would a lighter patch of blue appear there? Then look further down that side of the jacket, just about where the pocket would be. Do you see where a small patch of jacket appears to have been cut out? I'm not a photo expert, but I know the difference between pixels and a missing piece of an image. The photo does not have to be blown up that much to see that missing area. Also, if you watch the dancers on stage and do the same freeze frame, you will see a blurred image where their hands or feet are moving at high speed, but those body parts do NOT disappear altogether! Michael could not have been moving his arm so fast that it would have vaporized in that one frame. My guess is the photo was altered, as this is the clip where I noticed how Michael's arms are getting lost in the folds of those baggy sleeves.

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  115. Bonnie said:

    "...I guess my question is, how and where did TINI get the images and the time to do what they did? Especially since the trailers Sony themselves released contain anomalies like the altered legs and sleeves, and the missing right arm, etc? Those pictures they put out online have been altered. How and why is their disclaimer for a movie and use of trademarks dated a month before Michael even died? There WAS NO MOVIE MADE YET. He had not died yet. Which tells me they had this planned out before Michael even died. How would they know he was going to die, and how would they know Sony would make a movie of footage they hadn't even bought yet?"

    Bonnie, this pretty much nails it, doesn't it? This discovery about TINI's sinister launch date is a major revelation and makes me shudder. If it weren't for your blog and the great sources working with you, I doubt if anyone who cares about Michael could have found this much credible information anywhere else. You give me that shot of adrenaline that keeps me pumped up with a vitality to fight for him to the end. If only Michael could see the honest love and support right here on your blog. His spirit lives, so maybe he does! ;-)

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  116. Be careful MJ fans whom you follow! They're all such a lovely bunch of people, and THIS is TINI and their supporters at work people!!! Are they REALLY 'justice-seekers' for MJ? From the looks of their tactics, I have to say NOT!!!...

    Karen Faye's Twitter: She has a lot of bashing going on over there on that page today it seems.

    gatorgirl277's Twitter: Note that Nikki still failed to apparently learn anything or acknowledge anyone else's information or opinion as evidenced by her own Tweet, "I need to straighten out something here for the public regarding Michael's "health": The naked eye is not..." http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6dg4op

    QuirkyDiana's Twitter: See Taaj's stuff below. It looks like they had some fun today bashing. NOTE: Her Tweets are protected but she's right and Bonnie's nuts?

    Taaj2001's Twitter: Her page has been pretty vocal today. On the bright side, apparantly Bonnie ranks right up there in importance with Kenny Ortega! ROFLMBO...

    SOOOOOOOOO many nutters walk the streets, whats the word hmm yeah schizophrenia There you go @Bcox http://bit.ly/c9VsPB about 19 hours ago via web

    HAHAHA OH and screen caps of her haters, are we supposed to feel sorry for her nut case!! after she attacks every single advocate? go figure about 19 hours ago via web

    Be careful stay away from the recluse!!! if you dont agree with her you will be in the blog, She can never be what TINI!! about 19 hours ago via web

    of all the justice fighter to attack the dumb ass broad attacks Seven why bc Seven did not support her trash as i did not, about 19 hours ago via web

    @QuirkyDiana Thats what happens when you mix urself with journalist, they end up writing tabloid trash, cant help themselves about 19 hours ago via web in reply to QuirkyDiana

    @QuirkyDiana she alleges she spoke to a lady at the bank who arranged a loan for Michael, SHE NEEDs URGENT HELP, shm her hubby cant see it about 19 hours ago via web in reply to QuirkyDiana

    @QuirkyDiana Bonnie Cox thinks MJ is ALIVE Branca and AEG are the good guys, WE are all the bad guys working for $ony, and MJ lives in NY, about 19 hours ago via web in reply to QuirkyDiana

    Kenny ortega from 1:30 "we lived in the editing room for weeks,7 days a week" http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=77D8r4ssaRg&feature=related Friday, October 08, 2010 4:22:34 PM via web Retweeted by Taaj2001 and 6 others

    @andjustice4some I'm afraid yellow blogger has a complex, is making EVERY justice fighter look bad, to make HERSELF look good, shame!! about 19 hours ago via web

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  117. That TINI disclaimer date of May 26, 2009 is like a thorn in my side. We now know the site was already in operation for four whole weeks before Michael died (oh God, I still can't bear to say it). However, consider this disturbing thought.

    The May 26th date would represent the actual launching of the website, correct? A light bulb didn't suddenly go off in someone's head and BAM...launch TINI the same day! It takes time to conceptualize, design, gather "research," staff and fund such an undertaking. How many additional weeks do you think we can add to the already FOUR WEEKS that the site was actively on the web prior to Michael's death? Four more weeks...eight weeks? Is anyone thinking what I am thinking? All that time devoted to working on the creation of the TINI website, whose main purpose was to raise awareness about Michael's fast deteriorating physical condition! Michael's "followers" claim they were so worried about him that they were planning an "intervention" - really? To quote Samantha, "we had a plan in place, but we didn't know he would die on June 25, 2009!" The arrogance of that statement was a lame attempt at defending the indefensible! Samantha is no longer involved with TINI, but she was a key participant at the beginning. All the time it took for those people to plan a website, added to the four weeks that transpired since the launching of the site on May 26th. But TOO LATE to save Michael. Exactly WHEN were they planning this so-called intervention? Talk about waiting until the eleventh hour! It's all about priorities, and launching TINI obviously came before Michael! :-(

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  118. Everyone - I was out all day today getting some family stuff-chores done. You can read about what happened when I was away, here:

    http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/10/october-10-2010-michael-and-arnie-klein.html

    I can't believe the immaturity of these people! Talk about arrested development.

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  119. SAndyK said- "Forgive me, but where is the source for this??? Are you referencing TINI or Sony?

    BTW, I'm glad to hear that you're in fact alive!"

    The source for the disclaimer is right on the TINI web site. The link is up in the blog http://www.this-is-not-it.com/en/disclaimer.html

    Why would I not be alive?

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  120. June said - "If anyone is interested, google CATFISH. I haven't checked 20/20's site, maybe last night's entire program is posted there."

    That is awesome. I also found a link for "how to lose weight using photo shop" and it goes into detail about how to use the liquify tool. Awesome examples of how they did what they did to Michael in the photos! I want to do a whole blog on that though.

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  121. @ Bonnie: Uh hem...here is a thought. Remember when I mentioned Randy Jackson's Tweet a while back? Read in its proper sequence as Twitter goes earlier time to later, so I readjusted it below:

    Once again I am so so so disappointed and saddened. 6:10 PM Jul 23rd via web

    Someone I considered very close and dear to me sold video of my brother behind my back for profit. 6:18 PM Jul 23rd via web

    I know everyone wants to know who it is. Im still trying to deal with it in my heart... Friday, July 23, 2010 6:31:01 PM via web

    I've known about this for a few days. I can't take it anymore it's tearing me apart. Friday, July 23, 2010 6:38:17 PM via web

    Source: http://twitter.com/randyjackson8


    Now...this is pure speculation ONLY, but what if it was KAREN FAYE who had stolen it? It IS a possibility considering she HAS done makeup work for the Jackson family and she DID work on that one website of Michael's that she got fired from doing as well. She still supposedly was "trusted" by the family, but now apparently seems to be "on the outs" with them considering her bashing of the family lately. So, hmm...??? Considering how she is online, from what is witnessed, THIS sort of thing would NOT be entirely beneath her...

    Aida's comment triggered this one>> "Karen Faye, who claims she's doing what she's doing only for the truth and for Michael's fans, accuses everyone else who makes any type of money in relation to Michael, yet she herself (though she claims her services are for free) sold private footage of Michael (when she did that 20/20 interview). When challenged, her defence is "it was her life too and Michael gave her permission to shoot that footage". Am I dumb or is she? Oris she just playing dumb? A friend giving permission to shoot footage of him is not the same as you then making it public and certainly not for money."

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  122. Lady

    those are the exact tweets I read as well. "Justice fighters"? I think....NOT.

    Bonnie

    You probably already do this, but just in case I suggest you save these tweets in a folder.

    I don't know the whole history but ONE DELIBERATE lie suffices not to take ANYTHING they say seriously.

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  123. Bonnie said: "People TINI lists as links on their page: twitter.com/MUZIKfactory2, twitter.com/Justice4MJJ, mjfansboycottsony, twitter.com/Taaj2001, mj-777.com/."

    Taaj2001 said via her Twitter: "of all the justice fighter to attack the dumb ass broad attacks Seven why bc Seven did not support her trash as i did not, about 19 hours ago via web"

    Uh hem...NOTE: Bonnie did NOT attack Seven (mj-777.com/). She merely mentioned that her blogsite is listed on TINI's links page. I just wanted to make that CLEAR because it's something that Taaj, in her "infinite all-knowingness" failed to state properly. I recommend that she best learn to get her facts straight. This is why she's spent a lot of time in courtrooms lately. If in doubt, ask the Justice4MJ gang! (and no...I don't support them either, but I understand WHY there is a problem with "sugary-sweet" Taaj.)

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  124. Bonnie said, "Why would I not be alive?"

    I was referencing your earlier comment when you said:

    "That's weird, why did I type that? I said "If Michael and I was alive . . . " I meant to say "If Michael was alive . . ." so please disgregard the "and I" part because I am almost positive that I am alive, and I don't need to prove it, LOL."

    That's why I said I'm glad you're alive...:-)

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  125. Thanks for the link Bonnie. I hadn't seen that date before. For anyone that hasn't seen this particular reference it is on the TINI home page at the bottom of their disclaimer statement which in fact references a date of May 26, 2009. I don't defend TINI. I strongly dislike the opportunistic way many of their members have used their casual aquaintance with Michael in what appears to be self serving ways.

    Although the date May 26, 2009 is disturbing, they, like the rest of the world, knew by March of 2009 that Michael was going to do "some" concerts. Initially 10, then 21, then 50. Yikes! Clearly a very rapid and disturbing escalation of his commitment. Back to the date. I know I'm a little slow on this but if some members of TINI had been following Michael around for 8 to 9 months what did they see prior to May that caused them to start their page? The million dollar question. If I'm remembering correctly, Michael didn't start rehearsing with the dancers until some time in May, correct me if I'm wrong. Again, I do agree that the date is disturbing.

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  126. Lady

    Good round of "connect the dots" with Randy's tweets above.

    However, what she sold is footage that was in her posession, i.e. she was the one who filmed Michael (it is the video where Bush adds the final touches to his costume before he goes on stage and KF filming him. So just to be clear, I did not accuse her of 'stealing' it, only selling it. It was stated by the interviewer herself in the 20/20 interview if I'm not mistaken, as they showed the clip. that they bought the video.

    WHY would she sell it? What does it have to do with 'truth'? Perhaps she'd say she wanted to show the funny, human side of Michael.

    Someone challenged her on Twitter about it and that's how her response "it was my life too" came about. So, is it about promoting justice for Michael or is it about bragging of your closeness to him/self-promoting?

    I really don't mean to assasinate her character, but it's necessary to read between the lines and notice just how often she actually speaks of herself in relation to Michael, not Michael alone. People ask her about a particular situation, she answers but always adds "I was there....I did that shoot.....she was jealous of me..." etc etc etc.

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  127. Aida said: "I really don't mean to assasinate her character, but it's necessary to read between the lines and notice just how often she actually speaks of herself in relation to Michael, not Michael alone. People ask her about a particular situation, she answers but always adds "I was there....I did that shoot.....she was jealous of me..." etc etc etc."

    I am always suspicious of Karen Faye's constant statements of someone being jealous of her for whatever reason. The reason being is that 9 times out of 10 the person was NOT jealous of Faye. Instead, they were upset with something that Faye DID. That's not jealousy.

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  128. Lady

    I totally agree.
    Furthermore, I personally believe she uses the jealousy card only to assure her followers that she was indeed THAT close to Michael. Which beggs the question how close they were in reality and how much of it is her own unrealistic perception?
    She recently boasted on Twitter - when asked what was the last time she spoke with/saw Michael since the trial until TII - to which she replied that he "called her several times a month WHILE HE WAS GONE and sent gifts to her and her daughter on holidays". Notice the "while he was gone" bit? Gone where? Bahrain? Ok, even if that is true (which I doubt since he told them including her as she admitted that he just needs time alone), how long was that? He wasn't in Bahrain for 4 years! Notice the ambiguity in her answer, even though she wasn't asked specifically about the time he was in Bahrain?
    Even if he DID call her the WHOLE time or a part of it, how is this an indication of real, mutual genuine closeness or of her special status with him? We all know he couldn't have been closer to her than he was with Elizabeth (whose undying, continued loyalty to Michael I admire and take lessons from).
    What she doesn't seem to get is that yes, we all know she was more than just an employee to Michael, but how does that justify her telling the world what he never did or most likely wanted to share with us? Michael's own words were that he wants people to ask about his art, ask about what inspires him to do what he does, not who he goes out with etc. Of course, she says it was her life too, but keyword is WAS, does this mean that if God forbid my friends die before me I can then reveal to the world all that they privately shared with me (while making sure here and there that I won't share one or two things when asked out of "respect for their privacy", which in translation means only to create the illusion of a loyal friend). Gosh, I could really psycho-analyze KF but don't want my comments to be too long and boring to you guys.
    One thing is clear though, her fans blindly follow her simply because she was in Michael's life. They do NOT care about Michael's wishes, they only care to know more about his personal life, and for some reason, they feel closer to him through Karen, but obviously never asked themselves whether MICHAEL wanted them to feel closer to him by way of knowing about his personal life? Did they ever tell Karen it isn't right to disrespect those Michael loved the most? Nope, they don't care, they only jump to Karen's defense when others point out her wrongdoings, and ONLY to keep her telling them more about MJ. Fans? Considering the actual word is fanatic, I don't even want to call myself a fan. More like an admirer of both artist and great human being who shared his gift on both fronts.

    OOPS, see what happens when I want to add "one more thing". I really do talk too much, I apologize, will try to keep it short in future, God willing. :)

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  129. Aida said, "Of course, she says it was her life too, but keyword is WAS, does this mean that if God forbid my friends die before me I can then reveal to the world all that they privately shared with me."

    Ugh. I know I've defended Karen but I have to agree with you here. The fact that she does this makes me uncomfortable.

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  130. Thank you Sandy for acknowledging that^^.

    I really don't want to sound heartless. Only God can know what's in people's hearts, but it is exactly because we are not God that we judge only by the apparent. When I say judge I don't mean passing a verdict, and really, I don't take hearsay as facts, but when a person in question shows me who they are or gives me a reason to assess aspects of his/her character, I do so. We all do, it's part of our social existence and communication. The question is, must we personally/intimately 'know' one to assess their behavior? Some seem to think so, I disagree.

    Also, regarding Karen Faye, I want to say I don't factually claim to know her motives, nor do I disagree with every single world she says and action she takes. I'm just speaking of some of the questionable behavior that she displays based on my observations, while taking into consideration her pattern in dealing with others. And I try to ask myself if I would make similar decisions based on the general/universally accepted standards of right and wrong. I've been taught that in terms of social interraction, what is to be considered is other's perception of you, not self-perception. So I tend to think that it is necessary to speak to people in a manner that gives them no room for questioning your character, and I think Karen Faye is failing in that area. It's easy to observe manners when dealing with those who agree with us, but our true manners/character show the minute we speak with a disagreeing party.

    I too will defend ANYONE, even those I disagree with, if I see or know that it is undeserved.

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