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Michael Jackson Justice: Ronnie Chasen: BHPD Making Statements for LAPD?

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Thursday, December 2, 2010

Ronnie Chasen: BHPD Making Statements for LAPD?

Police Cased Apartment of Ronni Chasen Suspect Hours Earlier; Report ID's Him as Her Killer; Investigation Widens

We can't be this efficient with Michael's Investigation?



A man police believe was connected to last month's murder of publicist Ronni Chasen shot and killed himself Wednesday night in the lobby of the Harvey Apartments, a former Hollywood hotel-turned-apartment complex.


Beverly Hills police were serving the man, identified as a "person of interest," a search warrant related to the case at the time.


Neither the name of the man, nor his exact connection to the Chasen killing, was immediately known. But KNBC in Los Angeles reported Wednesday night that Beverly Hills police believe the man is the same individual who murdered Chasen in Beverly Hills on Nov. 16. The station cited sources saying that the investigation also might reach beyond the deceased subject.


Capt. Kevin McClure of the Los Angeles Police Department's Robbery-Homicide Division said that Beverly Hills Police Department detectives "attempted to talk to the suspect -- when they did, the suspect produced a handgun and there was a self-inflicted gunshot wound at that time." 


Lt. Tony Lee of the BHPD said at a press conference late Wednesday that his department's investigation into the Chasen shooting is ongoing. BHPD also issued the following statement: "At approximately 6 p.m. on 12-01-10, the Los Angeles Police Department responded to a call of 'Shots Fired' in the 5600 block of Santa Monica Blvd. When they arrived, a male subject (NFD) had sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
"He was later pronounced dead at the scene. At the time of the shooting, Beverly Hills police detectives were on-scene conducting a follow-up investigation. There were no other injuries related to the incident.


"Due to the fact that this is an ongoing investigation, there are no further details available at this time," the statement said.


THR spoke with Harvey Apartments resident Eddie Burke, who said police had been casing the building during the day. Burke, 48, moved from Alaska with his son, an aspiring boxer, to the Harvey two weeks ago. After a visit to a local gym Wednesday, they returned to the property at about 1:30 p.m. and saw the building manager talking with two men in the lobby that Burke surmised were plain-clothes police officers.


"We figured out that they were attempting to identify this person they had a lead on and therefore were talking to the manager," Burke told THR. He and his son left the building and returned about two hours later, at around 4 p.m. He said police had assembled outside the building. "Everything made sense," Burke said.
A young couple, Kaisi Berick, 26, and girlfriend Rachel Lude, 29, who live together in a second-floor apartment at the Harvey building, said they were there when the shooting occurred but heard nothing. Lude said that shortly before 7 p.m., a police officer came to their door to question them. She said officers were going door-to-door asking if residents had heard or seen anything noteworthy.


The Harvey Apartments -- located at 5640 Santa Monica Boulevard, just east of Wilton Place -- offers units for rent on a month-to-month basis and is inexpensive. Berick said there is a good deal of tenant turnover at the building, a dingy four-story structure situated next to a strip mall, with some residents staying as little as one month. He said an array of "colorful people" live there.


"There are people on fixed income, people on government disability and families crunched into one place," he added. "It's slummy for this area."


Reports and speculation continue to surface at the scene and throughout Los Angeles.
"[It's an] interesting end to the story or perhaps the beginning," former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman told THR. "Remember that the police had a search warrant in hand, which means they had sufficient probable cause that connected the suspect to the Chasen homicide.


"Certainly we can all agree professional hitmen usually don't commit suicide, or leave trails for the police to come knocking at the door," Fuhrman concluded.


The L.A. Times reported that some Harvey Apartments residents knew the deceased man as "Harold." One neighbor told the paper that "Harold" said he was about to receive $10,000, at one point saying it was from a job he did and another time saying it was from a lawsuit.


Hollywood publicist Chasen was murdered Nov. 16 when she was shot five times and crashed her car into a light pole in Beverly Hills while driving home from the Burlesque premiere afterparty in Hollywood. Beverly Hills Police Chief David Snowden called the shooting a "rare, isolated incident."


The 64-year-old longtime PR maven was buried Nov. 21 at Hillside Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles.  Source
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My Observations on this article. Thank you Miss J for the link:  


Paragraph one of this article says that a POSSIBLE suspect in the Ronni Chasen murder killed himself in the lobby of the apartment complex as the police were serving him with a search warrant.  I had a problem with this first sentence.

First, the crime in more than one news source described experts and different police officers as saying that Chasen was a professional hit.  Professional hit men do NOT shoot and kill themselves for only being served a search warrant and beyond that, professional hit men, that know HOW to shoot a driver through a passenger side window of a vehicle purposely without hitting the face aren't DUMB ENOUGH to get caught.  I also question if in the lobby if there were any witnesses as to how this "suspect" actually died.  Reading further is why I question this.

Capt. Kevin McClure of the Los Angeles Police Department's Robbery-Homicide Division said that Beverly Hills Police Department detectives "attempted to talk to the suspect -- when they did, the suspect produced a handgun and there was a self-inflicted gunshot wound at that time." 


Why is this worded like this?  Why not say the suspect shot himself?  They quote the officer and this is how he worded it.  That the "suspect produced a handgun and there was a self-inflicted gunshot wound at that time."  Did it just appear there, was it there before they arrived or did the victim actually shoot himself?  He doesn't connect the handgun to the self-inflicted wound in this sentence . . . Yes wording is everything!  Beverly Police Department are supposedly running this investigation.  They had issued this statement according to the article. This same wording tactic is used in this paragraph:


BHPD also issued the following statement: "At approximately 6 p.m. on 12-01-10, the Los Angeles Police Department responded to a call of 'Shots Fired' in the 5600 block of Santa Monica Blvd. When they arrived, a male subject (NFD) had sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


"He was later pronounced dead at the scene. At the time of the shooting, Beverly Hills police detectives were on-scene conducting a follow-up investigation. There were no other injuries related to the incident.

"Due to the fact that this is an ongoing investigation, there are no further details available at this time,"


 Los Angeles PD responds to a call of shots fired?  Okay. Why would Beverly Hills issue this statement?  They were on the scene supposedly.  How would they know what calls LA received?  Why would they even mention  this in the statement?  Why is the Beverly Hills PD making statements about what the LAPD had witnessed when they arrived?  The wording again was that the subject had sustained a "self-inflicted" gunshot wound, but not that the subject had discharged his weapon or had shot himself.  But the most disturbing thing about this report is . . . that the Beverly Hills PD is making statements about what the LAPD witnessed upon arriving after LAPD had received the call of shots fired.


Does anyone else think this is odd or is it just me?  This sounds like LAPD is being put in the position of being a witness for the Beverly Hills Unit to clear them of any wrongdoing.  The scene is described as a transient type of housing complex.  No one else witnessed a man in a lobby, who just happened to have a gun because he just happened to know that he was going to be served a warrant?  Then look at this.  More witnesses:


"Harvey Apartments resident Eddie Burke, who said police had been casing the building during the day. Burke, 48, moved from Alaska with his son, an aspiring boxer, to the Harvey two weeks ago. After a visit to a local gym Wednesday, they returned to the property at about 1:30 p.m. and saw the building manager talking with two men in the lobby that Burke surmised were plain-clothes police officers.


"We figured out that they were attempting to identify this person they had a lead on and therefore were talking to the manager," Burke told THR. He and his son left the building and returned about two hours later, at around 4 p.m. He said police had assembled outside the building. "Everything made sense," Burke said. "

Burke, from Alaska "surmised" that the building manager were plain-clothes police officers.  How very astute.  Then he just happened to figure "that they were attempting to indentify this person they had a lead on".  Was Burke a cop in a former life?  Then Burke and son leave the building, come back 2 hours before the "call of shots fired" at 4pm and "everything made sense"?  Did he SEE the subject shoot himself since he "figured out" everything else?

I need a plug in . . . the smell of this is getting to me.  Again, another resident chimes in:

"Kaisi Berick, 26, and girlfriend Rachel Lude, 29, who live together in a second-floor apartment at the Harvey building, said they were there when the shooting occurred but heard nothing. Lude said that shortly before 7 p.m., a police officer came to their door to question them. She said officers were going door-to-door asking if residents had heard or seen anything noteworthy."

Why were the officers going door to door when they already had their man?  Looking to see if anyone witnessed the "self-inflicted" gunshot wound? Moving on to  Mark Furhman's statement, he says . . .


"[It's an] interesting end to the story or perhaps the beginning," former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman told THR. "Remember that the police had a search warrant in hand, which means they had sufficient probable cause that connected the suspect to the Chasen homicide. 

"Certainly we can all agree professional hitmen usually don't commit suicide, or leave trails for the police to come knocking at the door," Fuhrman concluded."

So what is Fuhrman saying now?  I agree that professional hitmen don't usually commit suicide or leave trail to be followed, but that doesn't mean that Ronni's death wasn't a professional hit.  Furhman is now contradicting a previous statement he made, previously confirming he thought it was a professonal hit.  Is he now trying to cover his butt . . . and that of the BHPD?  In another article he says THIS:

Mark Furhman had also been quoted in this article on some very good points.  “If it’s a failed robbery or carjacking, you don’t pump more bullets into someone, and you don’t leave the car,” says Fuhrman, now an author. “Five shots — they wanted her dead.”

Fuhrman dismisses speculation that the shooting was part of a gang-initiation ritual, a notion that has been bandied about since the publicist was killed.

“They aren’t that stupid,” he says. “That’s for movies. An initiation in a gang is a young gang member that wants to make his bones in the gang: He kills somebody in the gang so [senior gang members] don’t have to do it.” Source

Last paragraph of note:

"The L.A. Times reported that some Harvey Apartments residents knew the deceased man as "Harold." One neighbor told the paper that "Harold" said he was about to receive $10,000, at one point saying it was from a job he did and another time saying it was from a lawsuit."


This paragraph also contradicts the Fuhrman's current suggestion that it couldn't have been a hit because of the behavior of the subject.  The other interviewed residents give different accounts of what this "Harold" said to them about receiving $10 grand from a job or from a lawsuit.

Honorable Mention:

Beverly Hills Police Chief David Snowden declaration in the last paragraph Ronni's murder was a "rare, isolated incident."

Well, no it's not.  There are six deaths in the LA area in the last year connected to the Entertainment industry and Michael Jackson.  Four from suspicious gunshot wounds.  The four gunshot wounds were Chasen, the Wilborn couple, and Peter Lopez.  Three of those were "hits" or "professional" type murders.  Lopez was labeled a suicide.  The other two in L.A. were the suspicious sidewalk death of Bruce Ayers (drug overdose in the middle of a sidewalk?) and of course, Michael Jackson.  Number seven?  Evan Chandler, another gunshot victim, also labeled a suicide (with no note) in Jersey City . . . the father of the first extortion attempt against Michael Jackson.

Seven deaths and some big, big money.

I can't tell you where I think this bull-patty is going.  You should get most of what I think just reading this post.  We can discuss below but I am very firm in my opinion that I have NO CONFIDENCE in the local police out there. They are too beholden to the politicians out there.

One  thing I do know for certain.  I do not believe that the people behind all this are going to get their money's worth for all the investment they put in.

Are they feeling a little Threatened?

89 comments:

  1. Bonnie : "We can't be this efficient with Michael's Investigation?"

    I'm glad of course if it moves on for Ronni Chasen's case. But for Michael, NO, Justice prefers to drag its feet. Joe & Katherine Jackson unfortunately have a long way looking Justice for their son. AWFUL !

    Also Joe Jackson just filed a new suit against Dr. Murray. What about the next hearing early January 2011. Does it still hold or not ?

    http://www.hlisted.com/joe-jackson-files-another-wrongful-death-suit-against-dr-conrad-murray/

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  2. Hello Bonnie, I have been around much, I know. Hope you, the hubby and kids are doing wonderfully in the new home. Gotta catch up, now.♥

    All I can say about this blog entry is mmmm-mmmm, Something's Going Down Baby. Remember the Quaids(Randy and wife) and the articles about them and how silly the media tried to make them appear?.

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  3. LineCH - "Also Joe Jackson just filed a new suit against Dr. Murray. What about the next hearing early January 2011. Does it still hold or not ?

    http://www.hlisted.com/joe-jackson-files-another-wrongful-death-suit-against-dr-conrad-murray/ "

    I hope it moves FORWARD for Ronni Chasen too, but with the RIGHT CULPRIT. I do not think they have their man though and I have a sinking feeling that the person killed was guilty of nothing. Hired hitmen do not just take their own lives. They think we're stupid.

    On Joe Jackson's latest lawsuit, I don't know what to say. I almost want to laugh. I mean how many wrongful death suits can one person file against the same person? How many times are we supposed to believe Michael died? Might be just a press thing.
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    @Judith - Yes, I do remember the Quaids. In California after everything we have seen, the Quaids are probably telling the truth. I remember how "silly" the media tried to make Michael appear too.

    Question for anyone . . . do you think the "authorities" in L.A. are sooner or later going to get tired of cleaning up messes for these murderers?

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  4. Bonnie "Question for anyone...do you think the "authorities" in L.A. are sooner or later going to get tired of cleaning up messes for these murderers?"

    It depends always on WHO the victim is - the same in every country. Good night - I go to bed now.

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  5. Bonnie, you said in reply to Line about Joe Jackson's latest lawsuit "How many times are we supposed to believe Michael died? Might be just a press thing." I don't believe this is a press thing, a new state lawsuit was filed to replace the suit thrown out of federal court, this time including the pharmacy in Vegas that sold the propofol to Murray. There is a court case number assigned. I can provide the case number when I get off work. Joe Jackson's civil filing should not hold up the criminal case against Murray.

    About the Quaids, just yesterday they were again in the headlines with an article saying they had a "joint mental disorder". The Quaids have my sympathy for how they are being treated and yes, Bonnie, it is reminiscent of how Michael was treated in the media.

    I lived in LA for many years; law enforcement jurisdictions overlap each other; it wouldn't be unusual for a BH cop to cover an LA call and vice versa; geographically, the area is unlike most others, a wide swath is covered. I don't find the wording of the police statements that bizarre. Law enforcement speaks very conservatively, not wanting to get locked into any one statement.

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  6. I don't know what to think Bonnie. The whole thing sounds like a plot from a 1930's gangster movie. If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.
    Why does the 'Gilda' section of TII keep springing to mind?????

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  7. Hi Bonnie,

    The "person of interest" in the Ronni Chasen case shot his self when the police came to serve a search warrant......Mmmmmmmm I will reserve my thoughts on that until more info is released. I agree I am not sure he is/was the shooter but maybe he possibly knew something. He may have been spooked because of his past as a excon or so the article I read said. At this point info about the man is sketchy. Speculation and assumptions !!!!

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/ronni-chasen-murder-person-interest-publicist-slaying-fatally/story?id=12291592

    I agree with a comment above that the Quaid's may have been telling the truth to some degree.

    As for MJ's case, justice is playing out exactly how it is suppose to. I am very curious to see how the trial will be handled in January. News has been next to nill on Murray other than Mrs Jackson's comments about him during her interview with Oprah. I agree that the new lawsuit could be more about press than seeking justice but maybe I am wrong. Has anyone heard or have any information on the lawsuit against AEG?

    Bonnie said, "Question for anyone . . . do you think the "authorities" in L.A. are sooner or later going to get tired of cleaning up messes for these murderers?"

    No because money talks...Either someone is being paid or the murderers are so slick and have the power to make things fade to black...It will take the re-emergence of integrity, honesty and a conscious.

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  8. Bonnie, it is not just you!
    I had to re-read that sentence about "the self-inflicted shotgun that was there at that time" 3 times and I still don't know what to make of it. Come on, what does that even mean, really! Redundant at the very least. And the rest of the article actually is not much better.

    Uhm, about Joe's brand new lawsuit, he has been on a brazilian tv show like yesterday (got a link on facebook, I'll go look it up, right now I can't remember, but there was a snippet of the tv show as well - and he stated that "Michael never supported me financially". That's all I'm saying. Perplexing.

    Blessings to you :)

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  9. Dear Bonnie,

    Something stinks things are getting really bad, too many senseless deaths, death too cover up death. what is going on this is crazy?

    Bonnie your great you almost reported the news faster then cnn. (lol) keep doing your thang!

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  10. The Fall Again video killed me.

    There's no nicer way to put it, it did kill me.

    I usually struggle to see the strenght and the perseverance, the faith and the infinite patience whenever I come across images from the trial.
    I hate and I love those photos for reasons that are obvious to all of us I guess.

    But, what with the song playing or whatever, all through that video I could only see the pain, the pain and the pain.

    I need (very selfislhy, please bear with me) I need to know that Michael knew HOW MANY of us never, never for half an instant doubted him, and never, ever ceased to pray for him and his children. I so need to know that he knew.

    Sorry for the rant, emotion got the best of me,
    L.O.V.E.

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  11. LineCH said - "It depends always on WHO the victim is - the same in every country. Good night - I go to bed now. "

    >>> Well we have a range from the rich and famous to the down and out in Beverly Hills, so I guess THAT doesn't matter much. Nitey-night!♥
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    June said - "I don't believe this is a press thing, a new state lawsuit was filed to replace the suit thrown out of federal court, this time including the pharmacy in Vegas that sold the propofol to Murray."

    >>> Ah! Okay. See where this goes.

    On L.A. . . . Their police dept's aren't that much different from any other big city. I've lived near Baltimore, I've lived IN Philadelphia (which is too close to New York and New Jersey), I've been to Detroit, lived in D.C. Been to Phoenix, Cincinatti, Denver, Springs and various other cities smaller than that. Not that I've experienced each police department, but this wasn't an issue of overlapping. This was one Police department giving a statement for what another Police Department witnessed. That is not normal.

    There were also other articles which contradicted what happened such as police officers say the man self inflicted the gunshot wound before he got there and others that say he did it when the officers approached him.

    I do NOT buy this suicide thing at all.

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  12. @Simio,
    On YT there are recordings were MJ speaks about Joe and money. He says Joseph always says if it wasn't for him MJ would not have the career that he had. Joseph knows why MJ gave the money to KJ and she distributed as needed for the family. Joseph knows he messed up alot of deals and money. Listen to the recordings on YT and you will better understand. Joseph is trying to milk this situation for every red cent he can. MJ knew what he was doing by not allowing the certain family members to dig in his estate and have control. Plus Joseph, KJ and Jermaine still owe for the lawsuit against them for taking that money for a concert that never materialized. Joseph knows the deal, he is just trying to be slick in my opinion.

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  13. Princessglam said - "I don't know what to think Bonnie. The whole thing sounds like a plot from a 1930's gangster movie. If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.
    Why does the 'Gilda' section of TII keep springing to mind?????"

    >>> I don't know, but until I see Michael in the white pinstripe suit and hat? I'm going to assume that it's real.
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    Miss Shae said - "He may have been spooked because of his past as a excon or so the article I read said. At this point info about the man is sketchy. Speculation and assumptions !!!! "

    >>> Well then why didn't he run? What's worse? Being questioned or dying?

    Miss Shae said - "As for MJ's case, justice is playing out exactly how it is suppose to. "

    Can you elaborate? Because I don't see this. Which portion of this are you talking about?
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    Simo said - "and he stated that "Michael never supported me financially". That's all I'm saying. Perplexing."

    >>> You know, why would Joe even have to answer a question like that? Who's business is it? Why aren't they hounding BRANCA about how much money HE'S made off of Michael? What the ????!!! All Joe had to say was none of your #@$%@# Business. Here me Joe? None of their business!

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  14. marvelousmary said - "Bonnie your great you almost reported the news faster then cnn. (lol) keep doing your thang! "

    Really? LOL!!! I put the blog up when I first got the link. I don't like CNN Anyway. Too chummy with Sony. Yes, it is crazy.
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    Simo said - "I usually struggle to see the strenght and the perseverance, the faith and the infinite patience whenever I come across images from the trial.
    I hate and I love those photos for reasons that are obvious to all of us I guess. "

    Oh lady, you expressed this so eloquently. I don't have to struggle to see the strength and perseverance but I also DO see the struggle in him during this time. Sometimes I feel like I can look at those photos and WILL him to stay strong, like it would have made a difference back in the past and hope that maybe he feels it now, wherever he is.

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  15. Sinmo said - "I need (very selfislhy, please bear with me) I need to know that Michael knew HOW MANY of us never, never for half an instant doubted him, and never, ever ceased to pray for him and his children. I so need to know that he knew."

    He knows, present tense . . . wherever he is, wherever you believe he is . . . he knows. Simo never doubt that.

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  16. Bonnie, how can you be so sure about "Michael knows" and not "knew". I wonder how can you be so sure?

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  17. @Bonnie, Miss Shae said - "As for MJ's case, justice is playing out exactly how it is suppose to. "

    Can you elaborate? Because I don't see this. Which portion of this are you talking about?"

    All of it when it comes to MJ's case. The inconsistencies and discrepancies from the very beginning, from the moment of the death announcement. KJ is not even sure that Murray is guilty. Mmmmm is this the segway to a aquittal??? I am waiting to see how it is handled in the trial.

    Think about it from this point of view, what has been accomplished? MJ has been humanized and his name is back in the spotlight and headlines in a positive way. I don't believe he was as broke as reported but he had debt, who doesn't? If Sony wanted his 50% of the catalogue so bad why don't they have it? It has been years. Sony is vested in the business plan that is being executed. MJ being the intelligent and creative soul figured out how to skin the cat in a different way.

    Bonnie refer back to the Schmuley book or tapes when he talks about MJ wanting to disappear yet still help the children. Also when Schmuley discusses MJ's deep understanding of being hidden.

    I believe MJ removed himself visibly so that all this could happen. I could be wrong....

    I know you believe Sony is the heavy but I am not convinced. MJ aligned himself with some very powerful players. The business plan is moving forward and they will protect him. Look how things have played out so far.

    Honestly I think MJ's problems were stirred by certain individuals that wanted to hold him back from pursuing other interest, namely in the film industry. Others may have been used because they may have had an axe to grind for other reasons but were used none the less. When MJ said conspiracy was all around him and danger, I believe it was near and far and not just ex-business associates and ex-employees or ex-friends.

    Have you noticed how MJ is mainly discussed online and not the major news networks? Who owns or has control of those networks that may be associated with MJ? Mmmmmmm even Bashir is no longer at ABC. Think about the lawsuit the Prince had against MJ, why would he sue for such a small amount when he is one of the wealthiest men in the world? I don't buy alot of the BS thats floating around.

    Why would the Casio's submit fake vocals when they have been MJ's second family for over twenty years? MJ built a studio in their basement. Never hearing a word from them but they are on Oprah Monday. Do you think they will say an ill word against him? More humanization for MJ.

    Just sit back and really think about this whole situation.

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  18. Bonnie,
    I will say this, I want his business plan to succeed if its his and I believe it is. He deserves it after all the BS, backstabbing and underhand dealing he had to go through. Just because he stepped out on faith and dared to dream and accomplish his goals and give back in the process. Those that tried to step on him, hold him down and back....I hope the crow has a bitter but satisfying taste.

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  19. MIss Shae said - "Joseph knows he messed up alot of deals and money. Listen to the recordings on YT and you will better understand. Joseph is trying to milk this situation for every red cent he can. MJ knew what he was doing by not allowing the certain family members to dig in his estate and have control. Plus Joseph, KJ and Jermaine still owe for the lawsuit against them for taking that money for a concert that never materialized. Joseph knows the deal, he is just trying to be slick in my opinion. "

    Whoa . . . First of all we are ASSUMING that the will Branca has is even valid and this was back in 2002 BEFORE the trial and BEFORE Michael suspected Branca and fired him. So let's just throw away ANY THEORY that the will in force right now is in ANY WAY legitimate. On the family issues . . . Schmuley tapes preceded the trial as well, where that whole family came together for Michael. Lots of meetings involving the whole family since then.

    Joe, Miss Katherine and Jermaine owe for WHAT concert that never materialized?

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  20. Beatriz said - "Bonnie, how can you be so sure about "Michael knows" and not "knew". I wonder how can you be so sure? "

    >>> Bea, I had to read this twice. Eyes tired. I am sure because be he in Heaven or be he here, he knows . . . How's that for a safe answer?
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    Miss Shae said - "Think about it from this point of view, what has been accomplished? MJ has been humanized and his name is back in the spotlight and headlines in a positive way. I don't believe he was as broke as reported but he had debt, who doesn't? If Sony wanted his 50% of the catalogue so bad why don't they have it? It has been years. Sony is vested in the business plan that is being executed. MJ being the intelligent and creative soul figured out how to skin the cat in a different way." and "I know you believe Sony is the heavy but I am not convinced. MJ aligned himself with some very powerful players. The business plan is moving forward and they will protect him. Look how things have played out so far."

    I in no way believe Sony is vested in anything Michael is doing. I agree with everything you said, but I do not believe it is Sony. My research tells me it is the OTHER powerful figures that have been blamed in this. Why would Sony put out a shoddy album if they are on Michael's good side? This whole 20+year, elaborate conspiracy is much bigger than a few individual "heavies" could handle. They needed a network. I have proof all over this blog what Sony's past tactics were in marketing from fake consumer blogs to fake fan clubs administered by journalist-wanna-bees. I stand by my research and my sources of that research and there is no one that is going to convince me that Sony is working WITH Michael. I would stake my LIFE on that.

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  21. Bonnie – you analyzed this confusing report very well. I still don't know how to make of it. It seems to me the guy who died with "self inflicted" gunshot probably has no idea he was a suspect for Ronni’s murder. If they were there to serve him for her death and he “killed himself” or “self inflicted death and they said Professional hit man don’t do that for being served, then their lead is wrong.

    The question you raised about “self inflicted” death is very valid. I think what happened is when he was handed them the gun, it fired by itself and killed him but not actually shot himself. As far as I am concerned he didn’t kill himself, it was an accidental “self inflicted” gunshot.

    Well, the reporter say this morning they are going to examine if the gun that killed the man is the same gun that was used to kill Ronni. I hope we will hear the result pretty soon.

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  22. @ Miss Shae cont - I am going to hit the subsequent paragraphs on this so I don't miss anything:

    MS - "Honestly I think MJ's problems were stirred by certain individuals that wanted to hold him back from pursuing other interest, namely in the film industry. Others may have been used because they may have had an axe to grind for other reasons but were used none the less. When MJ said conspiracy was all around him and danger, I believe it was near and far and not just ex-business associates and ex-employees or ex-friends."

    BC - If it was near and far and more than ex friends or ex business associates then who else would you think it was if not Sony. Michael's problems began as soon as he bought that catalog. The MESSAGE Michael was trying to get out also played a part in this later. But in 1993? That was catalog motivated.

    MS - "Have you noticed how MJ is mainly discussed online and not the major news networks? Who owns or has control of those networks that may be associated with MJ? Mmmmmmm even Bashir is no longer at ABC. Think about the lawsuit the Prince had against MJ, why would he sue for such a small amount when he is one of the wealthiest men in the world? I don't buy alot of the BS thats floating around."

    BC - I don't buy alot of the BS going around either, but I do not see what Prince's "small" lawsuit has to do with the networks. I agree that this battle is being mainly fought online and it is ironic that NONE of the major networks are talking about it HOWEVER, they are talking about the murders. This "war" is definitely not completely confined to the internet and the reason the networks are not covering any of controversy regarding Michael's estate, intellectual property or this heinous album is because OF SONY. They do NOT want this in mainstream news.

    MS - "Why would the Casio's submit fake vocals when they have been MJ's second family for over twenty years? MJ built a studio in their basement. Never hearing a word from them but they are on Oprah Monday. Do you think they will say an ill word against him? More humanization for MJ."

    BC - Because the Cascios were told to. Why Sony? Why indeed. Look what's happened. Watch what happens next. There was a plan, but Sony wasn't included on the details. Look what happened when the Cascios "leaked" that they had these tracks. Talk in the press (online of course) that Branca may try to sue for them, then suddenly Sony has them. :o)

    Sounds like a good plan to me!

    Just sit back and really think about this whole situation.

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  23. Bonnie read this:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/28/michael-jackson-moonies-want-millions-from-his-parents

    And for my comments when it comes to MJ's money. Bonnie, Raymone Bain clearly stated in an interview with Geraldo that she had asked MJ about a will on two seperate occasions and he was adament he had one in place. She was his general manager at the time.

    We can assume either way about the will but until otherwise legally proven the will is legit for now in my opinion.

    As for the family and money, there are several things. First after the Moonie incident the family home was put in Latoya's name to keep them from losing it and MJ had to buy it back from LaToya. That is just one of many things Bonnie. Look at the mess with the last concert with MJ and his brothers, along with that and other issues is the reason MJ refused to perform with them again other than that brief appearance at his MSG concert. Frank Dileo comments on the fact after MJ's passing that he did not want to perform with them and that was in regards to concert with allgood.

    Yes Bonnie the family did pull together when he was involved with the trial but listen to Dick Gregory's interview when he talks about KJ calling him to Neverland. The family was not even allowed upstairs.

    Janet, in one of her earlier interviews with Oprah talked about how her family was dysfunctional. That does not mean he didn't love them. He knew what he was dealing with especially when it comes to money and his family. Joseph knows why he was left out of that will. Bonnie he knows. Listen to the conversations on YT, the Glenda tapes when MJ discusses his father you may gain a little insight. Thats not saying he did not love him or rest of his family. It's a reason why he adopted the Casio's. You have to go way back in his history to understand.

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  24. @MissShea said, “Bonnie refer back to the Schmuley book or tapes when he talks about MJ wanting to disappear yet still help the children. Also when Schmuley discusses MJ's deep understanding of being hidden.” I am very much surprised by what Schmuley said. I have not read the book but now I will definitely do that.

    I hate to give my money buying his book that I refused to do so for what he did, but I need to read it if I can find it in the library and borrowing it or whatever. Are you sure this what he said for sure? This is some heavy staff.

    I believe Michael is very intelligent and farsighted being. I can see him disappearing in order to bring sanity back to him and his children’s life.

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  25. That was just talk online, Branca could not sue remember because Casio did what he was suppose to legally.

    I don't think the Casio's are being forced no more than KJ or the children were forced.

    Remember in LMP's interview she explained how MJ somewhat manipulated and used the press? Oprah and her show are benefiting from MJ stories....RATINGS that are much needed.

    You have very valid points Bonnie especially when it comes to the network of people. MJ had/has a network of people also.

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  26. Miss Shae said - "http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/28/michael-jackson-moonies-want-millions-from-his-parents

    And for my comments when it comes to MJ's money. Bonnie, Raymone Bain clearly stated in an interview with Geraldo that she had asked MJ about a will on two seperate occasions and he was adament he had one in place. She was his general manager at the time."

    There are several lawsuits that for the time being I will not comment on because they play into this but not the way you think. The Moonies? Seriously? This is not a legitimate lawsuit. I have read this article. Also Raymone DID say that, but what makes you think she was talking about BRANCA'S version of the will? Branca had already been FIRED when this happened, remember? The Family has STATED more than once that the will is not valid. I believe THEM before I believe BRANCA or SONY.

    I have also stated more than once on this blog, that JACKSON FAMILY BASHING is taboo. Everything you are TELLING me is press generated. Glenda tapes? That was 30 years ago!!! Did you hear what Michael said about his father in 2007? 2005? 2002? Oxford Speech? Carnegie speech? Schmuley raped HEAL THE WORLD and I'm supposed to believe what he says?

    This family has been TARGETED and has been the subject of just as much bad press and MANIPULATION as Michael! LaToya and that thug ex-husband of hers? They've had people trying to infiltrate and stalk that family JUST LIKE THEY DID TO MICHAEL.

    Allgood. I KNOW what the deal was with Allgood and I am NOT AT LIBERTY TO SAY at this time. THAT lawsuit was thrown out. Why? No contract, JUST LIKE THE MOONIES. Smokescreen and that is all I am going to say.

    I've done the research. I have gone way back and my opinion is this whole discussion is bullshit. EVERYONE KNOWS that will is bogus except the ones filling their pockets. And the ONLY PEOPLE the believe otherwise are those following Edwards, Taraborrelli and Thomson.

    I see where this is going. I am not entertaining any more comments implicating the Jackson family when NONE OF THEM have even seen a sent from this! Compare that to Branca's $100 MILLION PAYCHECK THIS YEAR off that estate and you have a LOT OF NERVE even suggesting he and Sony are working with Michael.

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  27. @Mesrak,

    You said,"I believe Michael is very intelligent and farsighted being. I can see him disappearing in order to bring sanity back to him and his children’s life."

    I am not sure if it is part of the book or I heard Schmuley discuss this in one of his many interviews after MJ's passing. Schmuley and Uri Geller both are snakes. They both know why MJ dismissed them and it revolved around dishonesty and money.

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  28. Miss Shae said - "I don't think the Casio's are being forced no more than KJ or the children were forced. "

    >>> I didn't say "forced" I said "told" and NOT by Sony . . . by someone else.

    YOu said - "Remember in LMP's interview she explained how MJ somewhat manipulated and used the press? "

    Yes, this is coming from someone who MANIPULATED MICHAEL and his fans. Michael spent most of his life RUNNING from the press. Remember "heartbreaker"? Who do you think that was about?

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  29. I am going to bed before I throw something.

    Branca will legitimate . . . Sony working with Michael . . . people are freaking nuts!

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  30. Bonnie – your answers to MissShae is concrete, undeniable, and truthful at best. You hit the nail on the head. I just want to say this. God bless you in all you do. You are indeed Michael’s guardian.

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  31. @MissShae, you asked in a comment above if anyone knew anything about the AEG lawsuit (filed by KJ and the kids). Per the superior court, no one has been served with the lawsuit and it's on calendar for a "case management conference" in February. Seems odd timing in view of Murray's supposed prelim hearing early January. What's to manage at this stage? Maybe we will find out.

    And while on the subject, I'm a sports nut so in looking at today's sports section I see the following. Magic Johnson formerly of the Lakers was on Kimmel show last night and announced he is formally joining a group thats planning to build a downtown LA stadium for the purpose of housing an NFL franchise, according to USA Today. "I'm announcing this today. I've teamed up with Tim Leiwicke at AEG, and we're gonna come together to bring the NFL back to Los Angeles."

    AEG (Anschutz Entertainment Group) has proposed building an NFL stadium in downtown LA, though the project is at the conceptual stage. A San Diego Chargers attorney shot down a report that Philip Anschutz is planning to buy 35 percent of the franchise. Goes on to say that the MN Vikings were approached by two groups, one of them AEG, about relocating to LA.

    Not to belabor the point, but Heinz Field in Pgh costs $280 million to build in 2001, so a conservative estimate for an NFL stadium in LA in the near future could be as much or more than $500 million.

    My first thought is that AEG may not be too concerned about possible adverse judgment in Katherine's case if they are talking 1/2 B for a sports franchise.

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  32. Bonnie,
    I am not trying to implicate anyone. I understand your point of view and nor am I trying to bash MJ's family. The smoke screen and mirrors are on both sides of the fence depending on how you view the information thats put out to be absorbed.

    We are all on the outside looking in and we only have the information that is put out to base our individual opinions on. We do not have the priviledge to view "true" financial statements. We only have what we are told either in the press or twitter comments etc.

    Yes Bonnie I have nerve and it is based on instinct. I did not comment to make you enraged or angry, by no means. I appreciate your hard work and research but I still think it is plausible for MJ to use Sony and its technology to take film innovation to the next level as he wanted to.

    MJ's problems were not with the entire Sony Corp but certain individual(s). I remain open to the idea.

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  33. Maybe I am nuts Bonnie and need a dose of Propofol to put me in a coma state to rest my mind. LOL!!! I said forced you said told is there a difference in this case?

    No need to throw things just exhale. I am merely responding and stating my point of view. My intention was not to upset you.

    Yes Bonnie MJ may have shunned the press but he used them also until they became vindictive.

    The will may be fake and it may actually be real, we don't know for a "fact" either way do we? If MJ's passing was planned years ago would this not play into the scenerio? It all depends on how you view it.

    All I am saying is I am remaining open to any all possibilities. In the end none of us know how all this will actually end and we are assuming and making the best educated guesses we can out of the information provided.

    No one who actually knows all the "facts" have laid them out for all interested parties to consume. So we are left to piece together and speculate. Like Brian Oxman said MJ lived his life in secret and nondisclosures.

    I hope you have a restful night, tommorrow is a new day!!!

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  34. Bonnie, great blog here tonight! I tried to hold off on watching your videos above until after posting my comments on the Chasen investigation, but they beckoned to me as they always do...and I lost. "Fall Again" was heartbreaking, with every image of Michael more beautiful than the last, but with such a sad spirit in those beautiful eyes despite his loving smile. It is so hard to see him like that knowing how much sparkle he had in prior years.

    I am always so touched by the way Michael appeared in public during even the worst of times, with the grace and regal bearing of a prince. Michael Bush designed beautiful suits during the trial, but it's not just the clothes - it's Michael's gentle essence that comes through even dressed in black pants and a casual shirt. One stride with those long legs is all it takes, a smile, and that lovely gesture of humility when he puts his hand over his heart, and I drift off into his beautiful world. (I wonder if LMP ever spoke to him that way. Judging from those horrendous interviews of hers, not likely.) All one has to do is watch Michael in candid moments with world leaders, dignitaries, and the way he treated children with such reverence, to see that it all came so easy to him. My God, even the way he deferred to police protocol when he was arrested, handcuffed and scanned by security every day during the trial, never once losing his dignity.

    I feel so tormented, even personally betrayed, to know that such a pure soul who loved so innocently and gave so generously was demonized...by DEMONS! You name it - Michael was loved by it. All cultures, presidents, kings, queens, sheiks, politicians, Hollywood legends, the military. They all loved and admired Michael, because they knew greatness. They just "knew." Michael is lightness and grace.

    Remember his classic "Billie Jean" video in the black leather suit, and how the sidewalk lit up with each step he took? That's what Michael does with his presence. Michael, if you are somewhere safe and able to read this, I want you to know that you will always be a prince in every way that counts. And however long it takes before we see you again - if we are so fortunate, please know that our love and trusted friendship await in abundance!

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  35. Bonnie, you said the Segye Times "Moonie" lawsuit was not a legitimate lawsuit. There was a 1994 default judgment for $4 million filed against Katherine, Joe and Jermaine that has sinced accrued to $13 million. I'm not sure if you meant you thought it was an unfair judgment or if you thought it did not exist, but it does exist.

    Here is a link to an article written by an estate attorney commenting on some of the issues involved. It also mentions that Michael settled with them in 1992 his portion of the suit, although I'm sure he was totally innocent.

    http://wills.about.com/b/2010/07/06/michael-jacksons-estate-will-katherine-jackson-lose-her-inheritance.htm

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  36. Bonnie said - "I am going to bed before I throw something.

    Branca will legitimate . . . Sony working with Michael . . . people are freaking nuts!"

    >>> Bonnie, all I can say is...that Cool-Aid they're drinking must taste pretty damn good! Despite your months of tireless research to light the path of truth about Michael's 25-year ordeal with Sony, and still some don't get it! But most of us DO get it, Bonnie, so don't burst a blood vessel and wake up with a migraine!

    >>>As for the Chasen murder, there must be more facts than the media is reporting, and the last thing the police would do is publicly show their hand and risk the killer's trail going cold. Mark Fuhrman is savvy, and I think his comment about hit men rarely killing themselves was to point out that Harold's behavior does not fit the classic profile of a professional assassin. A hit man with this level of marksmanship skill, to pull off a clean murder with five shots to the chest is someone with a cool head and ice water in their veins! Fuhrman's comment was to suggest that someone else shot Chasen and whoever it was, did it like a pro. I think the real killer is still at large. This guy Harold is met by police in his apartment building just for questioning, and he is so unstable that he freaks out, pulls out a gun and kills himself on the spot? That's LUNACY!

    Harold may have been a "person of interest" solely on anonymous tips and phone calls. The man seemed obsessed with bragging about killing Chasen, waiting for money, etc. But if Ballistics doesn't confirm the "suicide" gun as the weapon that killed Chasen, we might learn that Harold's bragging, coupled with his "suicide" were the manifestations of a delusional psychopath who was not even at the scene of the crime. There are people who falsely admit to crimes every day, usually severe crimes, as a way of gaining some twisted version of fame and notoriety.

    Were there any witnesses to this suicide other than the police who confronted him? One would expect the officers to be trained to recognize a potential threat to their own safety when they saw Harold reach for his gun, and fire at least one shot to his arm or leg to take him down. I just don't understand how anyone who supposedly committed such a cold blooded murder could take their own life so easily. To be cool as a cucumber when carrying out a hit on someone, then completely freak out and shoot himself because cops want to question him? I don't buy it. Harold was "found" too quickly in my opinion, as if hoping to use him as the fall guy for someone else.

    Harold was either a nut case who was not involved in Chasen's murder, and simply went berserk and offed himself. Or...he was involved as an accomplice. Remember, he said he was expecting to receive $10,000 for a job he did, but maybe a certain someone did not want to pay it, and preferred to get rid of him instead. If the guy was an idiot who kept shooting off his mouth, people like that are a danger to the "business" and usually "eliminated." And they don't have to be paid! Could it be that Harold was shot with his own gun in his apartment building? Were there witnesses? Were those officers really police?

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  37. Bonnie, just want to point something out, and you will know what I mean. A photo was published online today that showed the stretcher with the decedent Harold's body supposedly under a coroner's cover. In this case, the cover is BLUE, with bold letters saying "L.A. County Coroner." Quite official. We've seen another photo of someone else's body under a PLAIN WHITE UNMARKED sheet being placed inside a coroner's van, remember? No blue cover, no lettering, and flat as a pancake.

    Hmm...not so "official." :-)

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  38. @Mimi - Thank you. Are you the one who said you wanted to read Schmuley's book? Email me from the address you want me to send it too. I have the online version.
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    June said - "Per the superior court, no one has been served with the lawsuit and it's on calendar for a "case management conference" in February. Seems odd timing in view of Murray's supposed prelim hearing early January. What's to manage at this stage? Maybe we will find out."

    >>> Thank you June . . . for pre-posting a future blog update subject, LOL! I actually did not want to post this yet but since the conversation has steered to "who's possibly working with Michael" I thank you for addressing Miss Shae's question.

    Then you said: "Magic Johnson formerly of the Lakers was on Kimmel show last night and announced he is formally joining a group thats planning to build a downtown LA stadium for the purpose of housing an NFL franchise, according to USA Today. "I'm announcing this today. I've teamed up with Tim Leiwicke at AEG, and we're gonna come together to bring the NFL back to Los Angeles."

    Magic Johnson was/is a good friend of Michael's. I remember the story of the fireworks he told on (was it the tonight show?) with he and Michael outside the house at Neverland. Eh-hem . . . (Michael . . . stay away from my husband. No way I want two Pyro-maniacs near my house!) This info I did not know about. I was concentrating on Lowe and Barrack and didn't see this one.

    I am trying hard not to "Walk away" and "Smile".

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  39. Miss Shae said - "Yes Bonnie I have nerve and it is based on instinct. I did not comment to make you enraged or angry, by no means. I appreciate your hard work and research but I still think it is plausible for MJ to use Sony and its technology to take film innovation to the next level as he wanted to."

    Miss Shae . . . Michael does not need Sony. If Michael is "using" Sony in anyway, it is not with their blessing. Michael went to Canada some time in 2008 to study 3D technology. He didn't go to Sony to do that. We are also forgetting that these "certain individuals" you are referring to that Michael had the problem with are STILL WITH SONY, and in my opinion, that deflates any argument that Michael is working with Sony.

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  40. Miss Shae said - "Maybe I am nuts Bonnie and need a dose of Propofol to put me in a coma state to rest my mind. LOL!!! I said forced you said told is there a difference in this case?"

    >>> There is a big difference. Directed and told are the same . . . forced? Quite a different word. And I'm sorry I keep forgetting to put those "arrows" in there to separate your quotes from my replies . . . gets confusing I know.

    You said - "Yes Bonnie MJ may have shunned the press but he used them also until they became vindictive. "

    >>> Where have you ever heard Michael say this? I have heard OTHERS say that about him but not Michael. I remember Michael's interview where the LABEL WANTED HIM to lie about his age and he talked about manipulation of the press in that vein, but if I recall from that interview he believed that was dishonest and he did not like it.

    You said "The will may be fake and it may actually be real, we don't know for a "fact" either way do we? If MJ's passing was planned years ago would this not play into the scenerio? It all depends on how you view it."


    >>> Give me a break with this, please? We're not stupid. Michael's family said it was bogus. Randy J said it was bogus, certain friends said it was bogus. Branca was the subject of investigation during 2005 trial. Miss Shae, you know all this. Why are you working so hard to contradict what most fans already know?

    YOu said - "No one who actually knows all the "facts" have laid them out for all interested parties to consume. So we are left to piece together and speculate. Like Brian Oxman said MJ lived his life in secret and nondisclosures."

    >>> Yes, people DO ACTUALLY KNOW. Michael told us who his problems were with. Frank DiLeo also told us who was responsible for edging him out in 1988. There are things I do know that I don't put on here. You are not going to convince me and you are not going to re-write history. Michael told us who his problems were with. End of discussion.

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  41. Spotlight said - "I am always so touched by the way Michael appeared in public during even the worst of times, with the grace and regal bearing of a prince. Michael Bush designed beautiful suits during the trial, but it's not just the clothes - it's Michael's gentle essence that comes through even dressed in black pants and a casual shirt. One stride with those long legs is all it takes, a smile, and that lovely gesture of humility when he puts his hand over his heart, and I drift off into his beautiful world. (I wonder if LMP ever spoke to him that way. "

    >>> Seriously, Spotlight you should be writing poems or writing for Hallmark Channel! That was beautiful ( and true!) That was sure nice to wake up to. :o) Put me in a better mood♥

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  42. Rhoda said - "here was a 1994 default judgment for $4 million filed against Katherine, Joe and Jermaine that has sinced accrued to $13 million. I'm not sure if you meant you thought it was an unfair judgment or if you thought it did not exist, but it does exist."

    I meant that it was a bogus lawsuit . . . not legitimate in the sense that there was no merit to it. Michael settled a lot of suits that had no merit. Michael was an artist not a litigator and he would have been sitting in court perpetually if he entertained and played out every lawsuit tossed against him. He had even been threatened with contempt until judges were apprised of the situation (can't be in New York when you are in court in LA, for example) because court cases were scheduled over each other for different cases.
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    Spotlight said - "Bonnie, all I can say is...that Cool-Aid they're drinking must taste pretty damn good! Despite your months of tireless research to light the path of truth about Michael's 25-year ordeal with Sony, and still some don't get it! But most of us DO get it, Bonnie, so don't burst a blood vessel and wake up with a migraine!"

    >>>> I wake up with headaches every day. Every day since I've moved but it has to do with a vertebrae in my neck, not blood pressure (yet! LOL!)

    You said - "Remember, he said he was expecting to receive $10,000 for a job he did, but maybe a certain someone did not want to pay it, and preferred to get rid of him instead. "

    I agree with everything you stated about this suspect who supposedly took his own life. And the $10 grand? You don't get a marksman like those that got Chasen, for a victim of THAT HIGH A PROFILE for only $10 grand. Uh-uh. The cops were looking for a scapegoat.

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  43. Spotlight said - "A photo was published online today that showed the stretcher with the decedent Harold's body supposedly under a coroner's cover. In this case, the cover is BLUE, with bold letters saying "L.A. County Coroner." Quite official. We've seen another photo of someone else's body under a PLAIN WHITE UNMARKED sheet being placed inside a coroner's van, remember? No blue cover, no lettering, and flat as a pancake.

    Hmm...not so "official." :-) "


    >>>> Spotlight . . . :o) ♥

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  44. I just felt compelled to say that - I am in awe of what June said about Katherine's lawsuit.
    Amongst other things, actually.
    :-)

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  45. @Spotlight, as many times as I've viewed that helicoper scene transporting Michael on the stretcher, under the white sheet, I've questioned it myself. But, then I say, maybe the helicoper didn't contain anything more official with which to cover him. That leads to "why in a helicoper in the first place", and why the flatness; then I feel myself becoming disoriented, and move on...

    @Bonnie, yes Magic Johnson was a friend, he was in Remember the Time video; I love that video, watch it quite a bit. I included this info re possible NFL team in LA as part of my response to MissShae about the AEG lawsuit as it seemed a logical place and I had just read the article yesterday.

    I've posted my thoughts here in the past about the 2002 will; IMO it's either "fake" or (and I've come to more firmly believe this) Michael signed it under duress. He was in NYC on July 7, 2002, the will was signed in LA on July 7, 2002 at 5:00 PM (I've NEVER seen a specific TIME of signing a will stated in the will in many years of drafting wills in law offices). My belief is that Michael felt threatened while with Sharpton in NYC ranting about Sony, flew to LA late in the day to have a will done, witnessed by his former manager named Trudy Green, John McClain and Spiegel (forget his first name), remember Blanket was a couple months old at the time, whatever former will Michael had most likely did not include Blanket. So I feel this will was signed UNDER DURESS, which if proven would invalidate it just as if it were never signed. But how to prove? Were the three witnesses ever called to testify to validity? This I don't know.

    It will be very interesting to see how Chasen's murder plays out. When I commented yesterday, Bonnie, I did not read your blog on this thoroughly enough to understand what had occurred about the guy killing himself and the two departments' involvement. Now, with more news being released and putting pieces together, I say WHAT???? More will come out on this.

    Take care.

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  46. @Simo - I would love to say "I told you so" but then that wouldn't be "humble" (come to think of it, last few comments I made were less than humble), so I won't say it. I better dial it back a bit or I will be nursing another migraine.

    I SHOULD be happy about the news. I just have a really hard time with someone wanting to give credit to the bad guys when Michael's words and his family's words are right there.

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  47. Bonnie, I know you would never say "I told you so" ;-)

    I want to put it this way - I am here, I am listening, and processing.

    I'm in no hurry...... but someone else may well be.

    Just one last thing, admittedly a very childish question: what with the album craziness and the poor quality of the dvd box set - at times it almost looks like Sony is doing this on purpose.... like they're provoking. Childish, I said so.

    L.o.V.E. you all, and Love Michael most.

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  48. June said - "But, then I say, maybe the helicoper didn't contain anything more official with which to cover him. "

    >>>> Covering him is not the helicopter's responsibility. They transport. They are not coroners. And you're right. He was supposedly on his way to the coroner's from the hospital. Yet he is transported by helicopter to a coroner's van to take him to the coroner's? Why?

    June said - "@Bonnie, yes Magic Johnson was a friend, he was in Remember the Time video; I love that video, watch it quite a bit."

    >>> The three MJ's! (Very cute) Michael Jackson - Magic Johnson - Michael Jordan . . . all three in Michael's videos, LOL! Three Michael-teers! One for each of the three feathers I have taped to my computer. Okay moving on....

    June said - "My belief is that Michael felt threatened while with Sharpton in NYC ranting about Sony, flew to LA late in the day to have a will done, witnessed by his former manager named Trudy Green, John McClain and Spiegel (forget his first name), remember Blanket was a couple months old at the time, whatever former will Michael had most likely did not include Blanket. So I feel this will was signed UNDER DURESS, "

    >>> I don't want to say much more about this other than I believe that the "signed under duress" is conceivable and I had heard somewhere that there was something going on in New York during the time of the Sharpton speech. I want to further this but I don't want to because of people involved. I will say that I believe that there may have been a will that Michael signed but did not want to sign and that certain things were added later.

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  49. June - I also wanted to state that I don't believe the will was signed in L.A.

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  50. Simo said - "what with the album craziness and the poor quality of the dvd box set - at times it almost looks like Sony is doing this on purpose.... like they're provoking. Childish, I said so."

    I had mentioned the same thing. Why would they be provoking? What would be the objective for doing something like that?

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  51. They may be expecting a reaction.

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  52. Bonnie, this story sounds very strange. Another suicide following another death. Does anybody know whether there was an official coronial investigation into Peter Lopez's alleged suicide yet? I have to say that reading this police report sounds like something out of Law and Order rather than real life.

    Spotlight - I agree about Michael Bush's suits designed for the trial. Michael looked every inch the star during that trial but with the utmost respect, grace and dignity. He really was an amazingly elegant man. You know, the media turned that trial into a feeding frenzy but Michael's character and strength came through even though you could see the intense pain on his face.

    Bonnie, about the will. I am a bit confused because I live in Australia and perhaps probate law is different to that in the US. I used to be a probate paralegal and drafted heaps of wills. In Australia the most recent will is considered valid (well, assuming that it is not forged etc) and overrides a former will. Generally there is a clause in every will which revokes the prior one.

    So, assuming Branca's 2002 was valid, here in Australia it would still legally stand even if Branca handed all documents over as requested until such time as Michael signed another will that is. That would be how the law would apply here in Australia. Our legal system is generally based on the Westminster (UK) legal system. So, we know there was a prior 1997 (I think that is the year) will that Branca wrote for Michael.

    As I don't believe that the 2002 is valid, I'm assuming that the earlier 1997 one could be but then with Branca's track history we can't be certain that it wasn't altered in certain ways. Why oh why, didn't Michael update his will with somebody more trustworthy? This surely would have occurred to him after Interfor's report at the trial. I know there was a lot happening in his life but why hasn't an attorney elsewhere stepped up with another will? If Peter Lopez knew something then why wouldn't he have come forward earlier? Surely Michael would have wanted Branca completely out of his business after 2005. The evidence was too compelling for Michael to entrust a person of Branca's character with his children's financial security. These questions have been driving me crazy now for so so long.

    I wish I could find some answers.

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  53. @Bonnie, yes I did change the picture - it was just lazy of me to keep up the other one that's as old the pyramids, this one matches my other profile and is at least from this century. Plus, my daughter snapped it, so it's staying :)

    Over and out for now, blowing kisses.

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  54. @Simo - Did you just change your picture? Yes I agree . . . Expecting a reaction . . . I hope he doesn't give them one.

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  55. @Karin - Per paragraph that was directed to me, okay?

    Karin - "Bonnie, this story sounds very strange. Another suicide following another death. Does anybody know whether there was an official coronial investigation into Peter Lopez's alleged suicide yet? I have to say that reading this police report sounds like something out of Law and Order rather than real life."

    BC - I do not know, nor have I heard about a coroner's report on Peter Lopez. I agree there should have been one if one has not been done.


    Karin - "Bonnie, about the will. I am a bit confused because I live in Australia and perhaps probate law is different to that in the US. I used to be a probate paralegal and drafted heaps of wills. In Australia the most recent will is considered valid (well, assuming that it is not forged etc) and overrides a former will. Generally there is a clause in every will which revokes the prior one.

    So, assuming Branca's 2002 was valid, here in Australia it would still legally stand even if Branca handed all documents over as requested until such time as Michael signed another will that is. That would be how the law would apply here in Australia. Our legal system is generally based on the Westminster (UK) legal system. So, we know there was a prior 1997 (I think that is the year) will that Branca wrote for Michael."

    BC - IF Michael' is dead yes, but There is another will. Why would the legitimate will be kept under cover? Well, the only reason I can think of is that he is not dead. This is also another reason why I suspect that Sony/Branca suspect that Michael is alive and all the killings. Miss Shae stated that Bain was insistent that Michael said, quite pointedly that there was a will in place. What lawyer was working with Michael then?

    Peter Lopez. As a matter of fact, Bain is the one that hired him at Michael's bequest.


    Karen - "As I don't believe that the 2002 is valid, I'm assuming that the earlier 1997 one could be but then with Branca's track history we can't be certain that it wasn't altered in certain ways. Why oh why, didn't Michael update his will with somebody more trustworthy? This surely would have occurred to him after Interfor's report at the trial. I know there was a lot happening in his life but why hasn't an attorney elsewhere stepped up with another will? If Peter Lopez knew something then why wouldn't he have come forward earlier? Surely Michael would have wanted Branca completely out of his business after 2005. The evidence was too compelling for Michael to entrust a person of Branca's character with his children's financial security. These questions have been driving me crazy now for so so long."

    BC - I answered this question above. The reason an attorney has not stepped forth with a will is because he is not dead. Branca and his clan are the only ones that believed Michael was dead until possibly recently . . . I believe they suspected a while back judging by the timelines of the murders.

    Michael "dies", the crooked people Michael suspected of conspiring against him since at least 2003 (that Michael believed) did what Michael KNEW they would do, they realized AFTER THEY DID WHAT THEY DID that they have their own doo-doo on their shoes and now they are looking for Michael and they are killing people and putting out phony albums and having clans of little demons trashing his family on facebook and that little piece of garbage on ITV trashing his children while trolls like Thomson come to the rescue to try to get 'in' with the family, and little gang-stalkers like Samantha claiming she's a photographer that just happened to have enough time and money to adhere herself to Michael' and his entourage while producing only photographs of HERSELF with these people, including the Jackson family . .

    All this is to try to flush Michael out.

    That is my theory and I have enough framework information to be confident about that.

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  56. Bonnie,
    I am not trying to convince any one of any thing but I remain open to all possibilities nor am I trying to re-write history. Are you serious? I am aware of MJ and Canada. I am aware of several things but I am waiting to see how things are played out in several areas to draw my personal conclusions.

    Al Sharpton said, during the MJ birthday celebration in Prospect Park, anything MJ did was intentional.

    I believe that one stone will kill several birds...and the message that MJ has been trying for years to convey to world will hopefully be clearly heard and understood.

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  57. Bonnie said: little gang-stalkers like Samantha claiming she's a photographer that just happened to have enough time and money to adhere herself to Michael' and his entourage while producing only photographs of HERSELF with these people, including the Jackson family . .

    Me: I agree. Put SDG's name in google and go to her flickr page. There are 154 images there, and she is in nearly every one, many of her posing with various celebrities. Or maybe they are photoshopped like the one of her and Michael next to the SUV.

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  58. Someone submitted this to me (Miss J) and I wanted to include it. Below that my "layman's" version of that article I posted above:

    From Miss J -
    My bf said the suspect killing doesnt make sense. Cops dont case a building hours b 4 they serve a warrant, they never ask neighbors. If they heard or saw anything when a suspect kills themselves, & he knows the harvey apts, residents there dont talk. They especially dnt talk 2 the cops & media & there was no logical reason y that man wouldve been n bev hills that nite.

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    Harvey and Harold? Harold Smith? Why not Jim Jones, or Jack Doe or Will Smith for that matter?

    In layman's terms - "Uh . . . yeah, we just arrived when gunshots were reported to LAPD. They sent us over here, no wait. . . yeah we were ALREADY here and LA got a call that shots were fired. We were already on the scene questioning the guy, wait . . . that's not right. Hold on a minute..." (walks over to LAPD and wispers - "What did you want me to say again?")

    "Yeah, like I said, we were questioning him when he sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but we don't know who actually discharged the weap - - - WHAT?!!" (As he gets yelled at from LAPD officers standing by, who for some reason cannot seem to make his own statement).

    "So somehow he sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound . . . Now if you'll excuse me, I have to do some official police business. I need to go interview residence to see if they saw what happened since we were so busy dealing with the situation we didn't see anything."

    Lord!!!

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  59. Bonnie,
    Do you think Sony fear a total boycott by MJ fans who find out about the conspiracy? Would it put a dent in their profits?

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  60. Rhoda said - "There are 154 images there, and she is in nearly every one, many of her posing with various celebrities. Or maybe they are photoshopped like the one of her and Michael next to the SUV. "

    Me: Rhoda, another friend and I were discussing her flickr collection of celebrities and if you notice for example, two of Joel Haley Osmet as a child and as an adult Sam looks exactly the same. There are also plenty of her in the same shirt next to one of the Jacksons (Joe?) and the same hooded sweatshirt with Randy. I did go through her flickr account before and since you cannot copy the photos there you can link to them and I talk about them on the MichaelJacksonJustice.com website. Her Golden Gate Bridge pic is fake, and many of her celeb pics are fake, but I've not gone through and blown up every single one. I don't care. It's the Jackson's and their fans that she is defrauding and those are the pics I dissected.

    I'm still getting threats from Taaj Malik over that one . . . she sent me another hate mail two nights ago. I haven't posted it to the web site yet, but all threats get posted. All of them.

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  61. PrincessGlam said - "Do you think Sony fear a total boycott by MJ fans who find out about the conspiracy? Would it put a dent in their profits?"

    No, I don't. I don't think Sony fears anything except the loss of that ATV catalog and Michael's music catalog. They don't fear a boycott, they have too many other artists and too many people yet that don't really care about Michael and his battle. They don't care.

    Criminal indictments are the only thing that is going to make them sit up and take notice or . . . someone more creative than them finding a way to push them out of the music business. Sooner or later, artists are going to get tired of being ripped off by the people they are making wealthy. What is going on NOW will hopefully start drawing their attention. We already know a good handful of artists that do . . . and MOST of them were on Thriller 25th Anniversary Album. Think about the artists that have stood up for him like Wil.i.am, Akon, Prince, Notorius as well as some industry people that have suddenly stopped giving interviews and bowed out of the limelight.

    Read this: http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/07/michael-jackson-understood-who-is-john.html

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  62. Bonnie, thanks for your replies. They make good sense.

    I also read Raymone Bain's interview about her questions to Michael re a will. So, we know that there was definitely a will but Bain mentions no details of the executor unfortunately.

    The more I think about it, the more uncomfortable I am with the death of Peter Lopez and yet this apparently appears to have been conveniently accepted as a suicide by the police. There should be a thorough coronial investigation for Peter. Now it appears that Ronnie Chasen's execution is going down the same road with some lame duck story about the alleged hit man killing himself.

    What on earth is going on with the police? Since when are sudden and unexplained deaths simply accepted on face value? So justice eludes everybody these days?

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  63. Bonnie said - "Harvey and Harold? Harold Smith? Why not Jim Jones, or Jack Doe or Will Smith for that matter?

    In layman's terms - "Uh . . . yeah, we just arrived when gunshots were reported to LAPD. They sent us over here, no wait. . . yeah we were ALREADY here and LA got a call that shots were fired. We were already on the scene questioning the guy, wait . . . that's not right. Hold on a minute..." (walks over to LAPD and wispers - "What did you want me to say again?")

    "Yeah, like I said, we were questioning him when he sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but we don't know who actually discharged the weap - - - WHAT?!!" (As he gets yelled at from LAPD officers standing by, who for some reason cannot seem to make his own statement).

    "So somehow he sustained a self-inflicted gunshot wound . . . Now if you'll excuse me, I have to do some official police business. I need to go interview residence to see if they saw what happened since we were so busy dealing with the situation we didn't see anything."


    >>>Bonnie, I read this post of yours this afternoon at the library and cracked up out loud...LOL! I just got home a little while ago, and it's been nine hours, so I thought I'd read it again...and I'm still laughing! You really summed up the general feeling of ineptitude!

    Hmm...maybe it went something like this:

    "Yeah, it looks like this guy Harold was practicing a trick with Annie Oakley's gun in the lobby when we walked in. "Annie" didn't like the way Harold was spinning her around his finger, so it turned on him and decided to pull its own trigger!"

    On a scale of 1 to 10, this is no worse than what they're feeding us now! All I know is, of the seven victims so far, SIX were shot to death, either execution style or by suicide. Even if only three of them were connected to Michael in some way, it's three too many and a definite sign that Michael would not be safe out in the open. Three "suicides?" - Chandler, Lopez and now a (dead) fish named Wanda..uh, Harold. I am not convinced.

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  64. haven't finished reading all the comments and likely won't have time to today so am not sure if it has been said, but I have to mention...

    Does anyone else remember Mark Fuhrman from the OJ trial? If I remember correctly, he was personally smeared by the defense due to words he may or may not have said, and evidence was discounted as a result, which did impact the outcome of the trial. It's difficult to know if the allegations were true or false, if he is/was a bad guy or not. I have my opinion but don't want to sidetrack this to people's beliefs on OJ. Just something to keep in mind as we watch all this unfold...

    "[It's an] interesting end to the story or perhaps the beginning," former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman told THR. "Remember that the police had a search warrant in hand, which means they had sufficient probable cause that connected the suspect to the Chasen homicide.

    "Certainly we can all agree professional hitmen usually don't commit suicide, or leave trails for the police to come knocking at the door," Fuhrman concluded."

    So what is Fuhrman saying now? I agree that professional hitmen don't usually commit suicide or leave trail to be followed, but that doesn't mean that Ronni's death wasn't a professional hit. Furhman is now contradicting a previous statement he made, previously confirming he thought it was a professonal hit. Is he now trying to cover his butt . . . and that of the BHPD?

    I found Fuhrman's words about a professional hit to be powerful. Perhaps some entity "leaned" on him? It is also possible that editing had a hand in omitting or twisting some of his statements. Just my thoughts...

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  65. @Truthbtold - [It's an] interesting end to the story or perhaps the beginning," Mark Fuhrman

    And

    ""Certainly we can all agree professional hitmen usually don't commit suicide, or leave trails for the police to come knocking at the door," Fuhrman concluded."

    It also may be the way he worded it. Look at what he said in that first paragraph. Listen again to the lyrics in "Threatened" Almost word for word what Rod Sterling narrates at the ending dialog. I've heard this from others connected to Michael too.

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  66. Spotlight said - "On a scale of 1 to 10, this is no worse than what they're feeding us now! All I know is, of the seven victims so far, SIX were shot to death, either execution style or by suicide. "

    I agree, it's ridiculous. Spaceballs was more believable than this.

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  67. What the heck? I think a deer ran into the side of my house! There was a big bang on the side of my house near the kitchen and a dent in the siding. I was looking for hairs but didn't see any. More on Ronni Chasen given by someone named T (I will credit her by name when I get her permission to do so. Not sure if she wants the abuse so I asked her first).

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  68. Then this one from Miss H -

    Speaking Thursday on "The Early Show," Criminal profiler Pat Brown speculated that the man who shot himself "knew he was going down for something big."

    "He knew he was going back to prison for the rest of his life. As a matter of fact he told somebody, 'I'd kill myself before I let that happen.' He clearly knew he would be arrested for something more than petty larceny. I would say, yes, he's connected."

    A retired Los Angeles Police investigator suggested the tight grouping of bullet wounds in Chasen's chest indicated the killer was a "professional," but Brown took issue with that assessment.

    "He said that because of the type of ammunition, which was hollow-points -- nine-millimeter with hollow points -- but I hate to tell him, I've got the same thing in my house in my gun, I have a nine-millimeter with hollow points. If I was that close -- this person either stood next to the car and shot into it or drove up to the car and fired into it almost point-blank range, I could shoot that pattern," said Brown. "I don't think he is a professional, but he could be a hired thug. If he killed himself, this guy is a felon, he knows his weapons, and may have been paid to do it, but I wouldn't call him a professional, just a guy hired to kill somebody." Source http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/02/earlyshow/main7110001.shtml

    looks like we're not the only ones finding it hard to believe that a derelict who rides a bike around town was a pro hit man in an SUV.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/ronni-chasen-murder-doubts-raised-harold/story?id=12302727
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The DUDE rode a BICYCLE! Not an SUV, he couldn't even afford one! This is bull!!!

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  69. Miss J emailed me this:

    My boyfriend said the suspect killing doesn't make sense. Cops don't case a building hours before they serve a warrant, they never ask neighbors. If they heard or saw anything when a suspect kills themselves, & he knows the Harvey apts, residents there don't talk. They especially don't talk to the cops & media & there was no logical reason why that man would have been in Beverly Hills that night.

    Nobody can argue with the cops if they say this guy is the shooter cause he's dead. How did he end up n the lobby the cops have to serve him at his residence?

    He said to look into the guests that were at the movie premiere & the Sony party whoever wanted her dead was at that premiere.

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/03/publicist-murder-ronni-chasen-person-of-interest-harold-martin-smith-susp

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    If anyone is up to the challange of looking into some of the guests that we would recognize as having a connection to Michael, that ATV or Sony Music Industry people, could use your help with this one.

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  70. My reply to Miss H:

    Okay, let's try THIS on for size:

    Police dig through criminal records, mug shots. Find this guy living in Transient city. Stake it out, watch his activities. He's a loner, lives by himself, nobody really knows him. Perfect scapegoat.

    This may be a stretch but I believe THESE COPS shot him. I also believe that they are going to try to set this up so that Chasen's brother paid this guy to kill his sister for her estate! I've already seen reports that say Chasen "mysteriously" changed her will 2 weeks before she died.

    You watch.

    Yes...it was amazing how her will and details were available in days??? How long before they posted mj's or peter lopez's...

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  71. http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/100109/2010/11/photos-ronni-chasen-murder-scene

    Ronni Chasen’s Will http://www.insideedition.com/news/5450/ronni-chasens-will-revealed.aspx&wsi%C3%BC1b66f8dce8dfbd&eiHBH6TNL

    And this: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/exclusive-fate-ronni-chasens-empire-hands-judge&wsi%C3%BC1b6

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  72. UPDATE: Judge Craig D. Karlan has appointed Ronni Chasen’s brother Lawrence Cohen as the special administrator of her estate and has waived bond. Cohen is the father of the two nieces named in Ronni’s will, Melissa Cohen, to whom she left the bulk of her estate, and Jill Cohen Gatsby to whom she only left $10. The judge noted during the hearing that his own sister-in-law runs one of the charities Chasen has left money to in her will.

    ***********************************************

    Already your paid bloggers are out there running theories on anything from a really tall mugger (on foot) to the Russian Mob through your typical online sources of news. Same pattern, same campaign they did with Michael, Michael's family, This crappy Sony Album (Akon, I love yours and Michael's song so don't take that the wrong way. Doesn't belong on that album).

    Same pattern. By the way, I have some interesting news on THAT front as well, if I can ever get back to this blog update.

    Thank you everyone for burying me in links, LOL!

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  73. With all interesting comments from above, I also believe that Harold M. Smith, as a small-scale criminal , either 1. panicked while seeing the BHPD approaching him for another crime he committed or was about to commit or
    2. was shot too fast by the BHPD which gets covered: we'll never know.

    Ronni Chasen was certainly targeted (no random crime) by people in her entourage who bore in their twisted minds the dangerous mix of : greed & jealousy.

    Now I am wondering (naïve) : the source of such a murder, whether from an individual or a corporate group, generally relates to "clean", rich, well-established & "above suspicion" people. So how & with which connections & means (if they are no MOB-related) would the originator of a crime approach a contract-killer (professional or small-scale) ? because the originator of the crime also runs anytime the risk of being caught by the Police or even by criminals for subsequent blackmail as soon as he puts himself in contact with the underground world... or maybe it's better not to look too closely into it ! simply UGLY !

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  74. Dear Bonnie,

    About the crappy Sony album as you very well stated:

    Have you seen the official statement from the The Estate Of Michael Jackson and Sony Music about the Michael album?

    Among other CRAPPY statements, this is the one about Michael being friends with the new Sony executives ...

    " In 2004, Michael, with the help of his then-attorney, John Branca, ended his relationship with Sony Music and its then CEO, Tommy Mottola. In the intervening years, Michael had been working on music intended for a forthcoming release, drawing up its creative blueprints and recording tracks that would provide the foundation while, at the same time, the regime at Sony Music changed and Michael developed good relations with its current executives, working with them on the 25th Anniversary album commemorating “Thriller” in 2008".
    This is the link
    http://www.mj-upbeat.com/OfficialStatementTheStoryOfMICHAEL.htm

    And what about the Official UK television ad for new ‘Michael’ album (video)
    http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=2838

    This is such a desperate attempt to try and make the MJfans buy the CRAPPY album, that this is beyond pathetic.

    My prayer to God

    Please dear God, enlighten the real MJfans
    Make them see the plain truth
    Save them from the Sony (devil) temptation
    Michael Jo Jackson Legacy must be preserved and respected
    Thank you, dear God

    LYM
    Anapassionheart

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  75. Even if we debate on whether or not Chasen's murder was a "top professional" hit, there's no denying that it was a "paid" hit. If Harold was waiting for $10,000 - WHO was paying him that money, and don't you think he would have wanted to wait for that money instead of just killing himself without first seeing what the cops wanted? It all sounds very "convenient" from the police line of thinking, to quickly "solve" the case and move on.

    Former L.A.police commissioner, Bratton appeared on CBS News and said the LAPD were doing a great job with the investigation. Really? He said they are wisely NOT reporting all the facts to the media. I suppose that could make sense if you don't want the killer to be privy to the cops' next move, and it could explain why the press is throwing out all sorts of hypothetical scenarios. They want to run with this story and will keep it alive at all cost. Sound familiar?

    Who knows. This is beginning to look like a classic case of "Justice...Michael Jackson" style! We have a clear victim at one end and a perpetrator at the other...with nothing happening in between!

    @truthbetold2all - I don't think Mark Fuhrman is changing his opinion about this being a professional hit. He only commented that Harold's erratic behavior and suicide were uncharacteristic of a professional hit man, suggesting only that he might not have been the killer.

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  76. Bonnie
    WOW! This is really a detailed situation!

    I just want to thank you for your post that summarizes your theory on why you think Michael is Alive.

    This way I can keep up with what you are thinking.

    It makes sense to me. I hope Michael really is alive.

    As for Energy Changing Form, I agree with you only how will we ever recognise it's Michael?

    Unless Michael does some future work for the public and we see his signature all over it.

    I just wish Michael could come back as himself, but I don't think that's possible.

    Do You?

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  77. LineCH said - "2. was shot too fast by the BHPD which gets covered: we'll never know. "

    >>>> That is my vote, only I added that it was no mistake.

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    Ana said - "Among other CRAPPY statements, this is the one about Michael being friends with the new Sony executives ...

    " In 2004, Michael, with the help of his then-attorney, John Branca, ended his relationship with Sony Music and its then CEO, Tommy Mottola. In the intervening years, Michael had been working on music intended for a forthcoming release, drawing up its creative blueprints and recording tracks that would provide the foundation while, at the same time, the regime at Sony Music changed and Michael developed good relations with its current executives, working with them on the 25th Anniversary album commemorating “Thriller” in 2008"."

    >>>> Wow. That stuff the "two Johns" and Howie are smoking is powerful. Hey Branca! Maybe if you stop rolling it up in that green stuff you've been syphoning off Michael's Empire you might come back to reality!

    You are not convincing anyone that Sony was friends with Michael. I wonder how ole Tommy feels about you laying all this on him, since he's earning nowhere near what YOU have earned off of Michael's estate? You're a lying, pathetic excuse of a human being and as Michael said, "Half me me you'll never be" and if it takes me the rest of my life, I will keep REMINDING people of YOUR own History.

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  78. Josie said - "WOW! This is really a detailed situation!

    I just want to thank you for your post that summarizes your theory on why you think Michael is Alive.

    This way I can keep up with what you are thinking.

    It makes sense to me. I hope Michael really is alive.

    As for Energy Changing Form, I agree with you only how will we ever recognise it's Michael?"

    You will know Michael by his eyes. Regardless of anything else, the eyes are the windows of the soul. He cannot hide those eyes anywhere.

    I hope you can keep up with what I'm thinking because sometimes? Honestly? I have a real hard time doing that myself. :o)

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  79. Who is June Chandler? There was a "June Chandler" and Pat Boone on an infomercial selling a bunch of oldies albums (Nat King Cole, Johny Mathis, Patti Page . . . those oldies).

    So who is June Chandler. Was there a June Chandler other than Jordan's mother that maybe was a recording artist?

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  80. Bonnie,

    This imdb link makes it appear that the June Chandler appearing in the infomercial is the same person as Jordie's mother.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151411/bio

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  81. A big thanks to Miss J. for the video from Michael during the horrific 2005. I felt sad again, watching these Michael's photos but the pics & the song are simply beautiful.

    Through his spreading pain, what a class & elegance of a man. His humanity & dignity always radiate on his face.

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  82. @ Spotlight

    "@truthbetold2all - I don't think Mark Fuhrman is changing his opinion about this being a professional hit. He only commented that Harold's erratic behavior and suicide were uncharacteristic of a professional hit man, suggesting only that he might not have been the killer."

    Thank you, that was my impression too. As I recall, Mark Fuhrman was an embarrassment to the LAPD circa 1994 so I expect his statements to be attacked and perhaps him personally too in an effort to discredit him.

    The official statements about this Harold guy are sure disjointed. I say he was a scapegoat murdered to protect the entity behind Ronni Chasen's murder. It's such familiar tactics - an unknown transient petty criminal. He simply does NOT match the MO of a professional hitman. But, sell it to the public, done deal. I have to wonder when people will wake up to this tired, well-worn pattern of fall guys killed to coverup guilty parties.

    Keep up the good work Bonnie! Even though I have been unable to spend as much time researching and commenting due to struggles with my living situation, I totally support your efforts!

    I've tried several times to get ahold of you through your website, Bonnie. Please can I have your new email addy so I can send you what research I do find...if you could just send me a quick email?

    Thanks!

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  83. TMZ. Just read a Ronni Chasen's brother report:

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/12/02/exclusive-ronni-chasen-brother-thinks-it-was-road-rage

    Jumping to such conclusions .. that would make him look suspicious with her sister's estate. But did he really say it ?

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  84. @Pepzmachine - I'm sorry to do this to you on your first post here, but that link you sent me I am not giving any space on my blog. It's a disgusting lie that has no bearing on fact. Michael had NO PAINKILLERS in his stomach as per the autopsy report and the garbage about his being a sperm donor for Blanket is not getting any air play here. Thank you for taking the time to post it, but that link is not even worth the space here.

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  85. @lineCH - I know I saw that Ronnie's brother was trying to push the road-rage scenario. It's going to be hard to convince the public that a man that owned no car, shot Ronni in a road rage incident on a residential street after midnight when there was no traffic. IF Ronni's brother even said that . . . like you said. (rolls eyes).
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    Truthbtold said - "Thank you, that was my impression too. As I recall, Mark Fuhrman was an embarrassment to the LAPD circa 1994 so I expect his statements to be attacked and perhaps him personally too in an effort to discredit him."

    Thank you (both you and spotlight). This was a possibility I had considered AFTER I posted and talked to . . . SPOTLIGHT! LOL!

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  86. Concerning the issue of Michael being transported to the coroner via helicopter and then van, I wanted to post this video. This particular video shows what appears to be a body wrapped in a white sheet being transported from a helicopter to an awaiting van. The info for the video states that this is Michael Jackson's body that is being transported. Certainly, there will be those that want to question whether it's Michael's body or not but there is clearly a body wrapped in the white sheet and no "flatness." Watching the video caused me to become somewhat lightheaded and ill, not because of the helicopter, but because of knowing who is being transported. I feel the video is legitemate. (My apologies if this video has already been posted.)

    This is the note attached to video:

    Jun 26, 2009

    "Jackson's Body Flown Across Los Angeles"

    After he was pronounced dead at the UCLA hospital in Los Angeles, Michael Jackson's body was flown in an official helicopter above the city of Los Angeles to the county coroner's office.


    Source:
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Michael-Jacksons-Body-Transferred-From-Helicopter-To-Ambulance-At-Coroners-Officer/Video/200906415320126?lpos=video_Carousel_Region_0&lid=VIDEO_15320126_Michael_Jacksons_Body_Transferred_From_Helicopter_To_Ambulance_At_Coroners_Officer

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  87. @SandyK - I think it's been posted before but not on this particular blog update. I have seen both videos she is talking about. What is missing is your typical LAPD body bag. There is also a video of the helicopter still enroute with another chopper covering what is going on inside the one carrying Michael. This is the one that many have said they see the body moving on the gurney.

    I have watched that video many times and aside from the body looking like it is twisting and sitting up, I have to question why a chopper door would be wide open, in flight, with someone on a gurney and medics supposedly walking around inside.

    We can argue the authenticity of the body moving all day long, but why would the chopper doors remain open in flight? This isn't MASH, it's real life . . . isn't it?

    My guess is someone wanted the photographing chopper to see a glimpse of something, just enough to question before they turned the open door out of the view of the shot.

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  88. From Anonymous -

    Okay, so more stuff to add to the strange Ronni case...gleaned from a bunch of different websites....

    1. Brother Larry Cohen who makes horror movies is left the bulk of her fortune, and is either petitioning to be executor, or already is executor. He insists there is another will made in 2006 besides the one in probate now, from the 1990's, but it hasn't surfaced.

    In another report, that didn't mention his being executor, he says he thinks her killing is a random act. I find that weird. Is he naive? Does he not listen to the detectives who say this had to be a pro hit?

    2. Neice Melissa gets $50K while neice Jill gets $10 dollars. Jill writes a song for Ronni and sings it on youtube. Contrary to the BS on TMZ (we all know how trustworthy they are and what they did to Michael), I don't think cutting Jill out of her will gives Jill a motive for murder.

    3. Still brings me back to Sony. It's just too weird that she was working with Sony at the time, that she had all those connections to Michael via his circle of friends, and that she was a woman of integrity and always on the artists' side. She would see the way Sony was raping Michael, and I doubt she liked it. According to a recent Nightline episode, they say Ronni was trying to promote the Burlesque soundtrack for Sony. Was she not enthusiastic about Burlesque, which has been called 'worse than Showgirls"? Nah - it had to be bigger than all of that - had to have something to do with what Forbes has named this year's "highest earning dead celebrity." Michael.

    I just can't shake the feeling that Sony's involved. And here's another thing that's an obvious paid blogger ploy:

    In almost EVERY blog I've seen with an article on Ronni, some "anonymous" poster brings up all these other "possibilities" that range from gangs to the russian mob. It's a basic cut and paste job, and my hunch is, it's meant to muddy the waters and confuse people.

    Here's an example of it - I'm not fooled. They're trying to paint the niece as having an ax to grind, but I'm not buying it. Check out the "anonymous" comment - it's the SAME post I've seen all over the links I've clicked on, that talk about Ronnie. And, I've been doing google searches on Ronni for the past week or so and this seems like a new one, but I'm not sure how you'd find out.

    http://www.crimefilenews.com/2010/12/no-murdered-publicist-ronni-chasen-was.html

    and here's the Nightline. Detective says on TV that he thinks it's a pro hit.

    http://abcnews.go.com/watch/nightline/SH5584743/VD55100710/nightline-1202-chasen-murder


    ast one - (sorry, can't sleep) according to this report, there was a burglary where "emotional" "family heirlooms" were stolen. Was the key to the safety deposit box also stolen, or did Ronni give that to her brother?

    her brother is looking more and more suspicious to me...but I still lean toward sony...what if he's in cahoots with them?

    apparently, he's not the executor, but he filed to be today....

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Flos_angeles&id=7823002
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    He actually did get appointed by the judge as special administrator to her estate. It was posted as an update on one of those links.

    Grande Theft California! The Video Game!

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  89. Hello Bonnie. I'll have to get caught up on the recent posts. So, I just read this article on cnn.com about Ronnie Chasen. Do they really expect us to believe that a man on a BIKE shot a famous woman in the chest 5x because it was a random robbery? I can't believe the arrogance of those who think we'd be so gullible! My God.

    Hollywood publicist Ronni Chasen was murdered as she was driving through Beverly Hills, California, in a random robbery by a man on a bicycle, according to preliminary findings in the Beverly Hills police investigation.

    That bicyclist, Harold Martin Smith, 43, later committed suicide with the same gun that was used in the Chasen murder, Beverly Hills Police Chief David Snowden said Wednesday. Smith shot himself in the head last week as police approached him for questioning as "a person of interest" while he was at his Los Angeles apartment building.

    A preliminary ballistics test showed that Smith's gun was also used in the slaying of Chasen, 64, said Beverly Hills Detective Sgt. Mike Publicker.

    "We believe most likely it was a robbery gone bad," Publicker said. "We believe it was a random act."

    Publicker said it appeared no connection existed between Chasen and Smith prior to slaying.

    "The detectives were able to do numerous interviews and through the information obtained in the interviews, it appears that he did act alone," Publicker said. "We believe his mode of transportation was by bicycle."

    Authorities said the investigation remains ongoing.

    "We don't believe it was a professional hit, and this is an open and ongoing investigation," Snowden said.

    Chasen, 64, was shot several times in the chest while driving in her car through a residential area of Beverly Hills after leaving a Hollywood movie premiere party earlier last month.

    Smith, an ex-convict, pulled a handgun and shot himself as Beverly Hills detectives approached to question him at Hollywood's Harvey Apartments last Wednesday.

    The television show "America's Most Wanted" put police in touch with a tipster who will likely received a $125,000 reward, Publicker said.

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