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Michael Jackson Justice: Michael Jackson's Starry Night

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The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael's story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".

Friday, January 21, 2011

Michael Jackson's Starry Night

January 21, 2011 – Michael’s Starry Night


One of my favorite folk songs is “Starry Night” by Don McClean.  After posting it in the comments one blog back, that familiar pulling on my heart began and yes, I’m sorry, but the tears.   The lyrics of this song could very easily have been written for Michael.  Every single word and line fits him.

Now that I’ve taken a minute to compose myself, the usual impulse to send what squeezes my heart and channel it through my pen, or in the modern term, my computer keyboard calls.  If I don’t obey it just hurts.

Don McClean’s “Starry Starry Night”

Some of the lyrics that really stand out, in order are:

 - With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
 - Now I know what you tried to say to me
 - How you suffered for your sanity
 - How you tried to set them free
 - They would not listen, they do not know how
 - Perhaps they’ll listen now

But they are not listening or very few are.  It is hard to come by anything as intensely painful as a sacrifice one has made, that is ignored or worse, rejected. It is a pain that is the polar opposite of fulfillment.  It is the rejection of unconditional love.

Comparable anguish?

A child that has reached out her hand, only to have a parent turn away. 

An emaciated puppy looking at people walking the street from the alley, too weak to walk out and ask for a friendship before he takes his last breath.

An elderly man in the nursing home, who’s life he gave to a family that can’t bear to sit with him as he dies, so they don’t.

A man who just a couple of months ago learned how much he loved his friends before watching two of them get blown away in front of him on the battle field.

Listening to another human being try to justify ethnic and social eugenics while calling himself “enlightened”.

Wondering how Jesus feels watching all this from above, while those who spent their fortunes trying to forward his message get persecuted.

A man who spent 40+ of his 50 years writing, composing, performing that message is again having it drowned in the agendas and conspiracies of others.

Michael said during the 2007 “Bush” interview in answer to the question, “how does it feel to get back to making music?”  Michael replies, “I never stopped.

In response to David Nordahl – “I don’t lead an interesting life, I am always working.

What divine energy drives a man to create beyond the need for sleep and forgetting that dinner time passed?

Truth has been reduced to a point of view.  God and mention of him has been demoted to a political pawn.

“…Weathered faces lined in pain . . . are soothed beneath the artists loving hand . . .”

As in the song where Vincent Van Gogh’s message of love expressed through his drawings and paintings, Michael’s primary outlet was the stage through music.  Yes Michael could draw and the lyrics he wrote were truth that was almost painful, yet enlightening and redeeming to hear, framed in vocals and sounds that were fulfilling.

I want to know why it took his death to get the message?

Michael said in his song, “You are my Life” – “Love is the answer, to all that I am . . .”

Continuing to work through his pain . . .


That line in that song of Michael’s reminds me of the word “sacrifice”.  What is sacrifice?

Definition = to give up, forfeit, let go or surrender without consideration.

Consideration in contract terms is payment in exchange for a product or service.

Sacrificing one’s life for another = unconditional love expressed.

Unconditional love = love expressed without expectation of anything in return.

Starry Night Lyrics –

“For they could not love you . . . But still your love was true . . .

“And when no hope was left in sight, on that starry, starry night . . . You took your life as lovers often do . . .”

“But I could have told you Vincent . . . that this world was never meant for anyone as beautiful as you . . .”

My heart aches seeing what is going on with the estate and the executors, with Sony corporation, with Teddy Riley . . .

The groups and “fan bases” involved with Charles Thomson, J. Randy Taraborrelli, Aphrodite Jones,  the splitting of the fans between Kunesh, Malik, Jacobs and Justice4MJ, Faye and Degosson . . . Tell me what has changed?

Love is the Answer


Michael has the very same sycophants, the same greed, the same narcissism and the same greed, envy and hate surrounding him and he’s not even here.

I spent a year on this blog now, hoping something would change and I am sitting here shedding the same tears over the same pain and praying for the same hope.

I spent a year getting to know and growing so close to a man that I’ve never met and wonder why it hurts so damned much even believing that he is still alive.

It’s because with everything we all have witnessed and been through in the last year and a half, the reality is, we don’t deserve him.  We didn’t deserve him and we didn’t deserve the love, but we took it!  We took it and misinterpreted it for what it really was and THAT must have been the most painful thing for him of all!

Yet he continued to give…


This is an all too familiar story.  Who are we to want him back?

We don’t deserve anyone like Michael, like Van Gogh, like Mozart, like Raphael, Gandhi, Billy Graham, or any other of the projectors of love that God gave us.

We don’t deserve them.

When you look at the bigger message, and the petty behavior surrounding it and dumbing it down to a pair of gold pants and a crotch-grab, I have to wonder why he continued.  But I know why he did.

Someone who tried to follow Christ’s teachings as closely as he did, who admittedly wasn’t perfect but trying to be had no other choice.

Michael’s Drive wasn’t wealth, it was the purpose
To reach the lost children with the message of love


John Branca thinks he controls Michael’s estate.  Between you and me, I think he grabbed for the wrong straw.

Look at the video above at 3:23.  Look at that Van Gogh painting at that time and look deeply into the foreground . . . tell me what you see between the stormy horizon and the angry clouds, illuminated near the center of the canvas . . .

“How you tried to set them free . . . They would not listen, they’re not listening still . . . .”

Perhaps they never will . . .



50 comments:

  1. I have nothing to say to this (this is just too much of an echo of my own feelings, the song and everything, Bonnie... too much, sorry) - except -
    Yes. We don't deserve him.
    We don't.

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  2. @Simo - This was a hard one for me too. This will take me the weekend to recover . . .

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  3. Dear Bonnie,

    I think I see an angry face in the clouds, a farm , a barn behind the cross and some political type buildings maybe the white house or a castle. I dont now my mom always told me that I had some kind of imagination. Oh well I feel so sad right now!

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  4. @Marvelousmary - I should have said background, LOL! Background is the clouds yes, then the cross and on either side, churches.

    Did you know that sadness is an emotion of regret?
    At it's core sadness is spawned by guilt and in this case, as with the case of anybody we've lost, we always feel like there is something we could have or should have tried to do, but didn't.

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  5. Bonnie, you are right. Michael cast his pearls before swine and typical of human nature, they were trampled into the mud.

    We never deserved him and we didn't appreciate him until it was too late. He was always too good for this world which is not a better place without him at all. It is a cynical, cold and uncaring world without him in it.

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  6. Wow! That video sure opened up the water works for me. Whenever I see pictures of Michael during his trial, the picture of him showing his bruised arms from the handcuffs, etc., I have to think, how could the world have let this happen. The world watched the saga and drama unfold, never once standing up as one, saying, "STOP the MADNESS! THIS MAN WOULD NOT HURT A CHILD IF HIS LIFE DEPENDED ON IT!"

    But, what could we have done, really. Although we as individuals might not have had the power to change the course of events, certainly the entertainment and music industry could have. But, instead they shunned the man who opened doors for so many of them or made them who they are today, including MTV, BET, etc., etc.

    Michael - we love you so...we really do! L.O.V.E.

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  7. Bonnie my dear, I'll feel sad, you should not be. Michael is well now. I'm sure.
    When I received the news of Michael's death, I immediately thought they tormented him too. During his funeral, someone said that Michael will not die 'ever.
    He left us his music with his messages of love. Michael I see it as Jesus', they have sacrificed for us.
    A few days ago, 'you told me to never give up on Michael, thank you for these words are very important to me, but now' I repeat to you Bonnie, ok?
    I love you Bonnie!
    Michael forever.

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  8. Dear Bonnie,

    I must say, there is no one like you to express so sensitively the unconditional love of Michael for the humanity, his sadness, his despair, his faith in God through the horrible tribulations.

    Even if I disagree with some of your statements & theories (except of course for the S-bunch) I only wish to say Thank You for enlighting the readers on who Michael the Human Being really was. Alike the Van Gogh painting showing an unlashed sky, the spreading light of the Cross in the middle is there to remind us to continue to hope & believe in God's Redemption, Justice & Love for the Righteous like Michael.

    Be strong against the adversity of mean comments, keep well & God Bless you.

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  9. Bonnie said, "We didn’t deserve him and we didn’t deserve the love, but we took it! We took it and misinterpreted it for what it really was and THAT must have been the most painful thing for him of all!"

    "When you look at the bigger message, and the petty behavior surrounding it and dumbing it down to a pair of gold pants and a crotch-grab, I have to wonder why he continued. But I know why he did.

    Someone who tried to follow Christ’s teachings as closely as he did, who admittedly wasn’t perfect but trying to be had no other choice."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~Well said Bonnie. I totally agree with this. We didn't deserve him, you're right. Although Michael isn't with us anymore, with all due respect to those that feel he is still alive, his message hasn't gone away. Michael talked about an artist attaining a certain immortality through his/her art, such as De Vinci, Rembrandt, Mozart, The Beetles, etc., certainly Michael has also gained a certain immortality through his art. Like any great artist he will never be forgotten. Also, for those willing to look/listen, his message will never go away either. Anyone in the future that hears "We Are The World," "What More Can I Give," "Black or White," "Earth Song," to name just a few, can't mistake what this man was really about. The message in these songs is timeless and will never sound dated. I think we all know that the gold pants and the other stuff were simply marketing tools and clearly Michael was very willing to market himself that way knowing that many will only see the "marketing" stuff and miss the message. He did these things inorder to get his message to a wider audience. As a result he knew that there would be people that got the message and would hopefully share that with those that didn't look any deeper. I'm sure he also knew that there would be those that couldn't be reached. All great artists encounter this. Anyone that has had a message worth sharing had doors closed in their face. Michael experienced this metaphorically and literally! I'm reminded of how he used to go door to door representing the JW church trying to share Christ's message with people and occassionally getting doors slammed in his face. Although he would eventually have to wear disguises, he continued to do this even after his "Thriller" album put him into the stratosphere of superstardom. (His mom, bless her heart, still goes door-to-door for the JW church to this day!)

    Blessings to all and God bless you Michael for being a willing servant for Christ! You will always be a blessing!

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  10. Bonnie,
    Several people have written pieces about how 'we did this to him' or 'we didn't deserve him'. Maybe they have something to feel guilty about? I know that I don't feel guilty because I didn't do anything TO him and I appreciated him from the very start. I feel that I deserve him, yes I do. And that is because from the late 70's early 80's I became increasingly worried about what was happening and could happen to Michael. He was becoming isolated even then, and frightened of fans when they tore his hair out or tore his clothes off. This was happening when he was still an adolescent. I felt it wasn't right for a young person to go through this week after week. But there was nothing I could do. There was no point writing to him in support because he received thousands of letters a day. I didn't have the money to travel to see him, to speak to him. So I decided all I could do is be there when he needed help. Speak up for him when people repeated tabloid lies.
    It's why I'm still here now, as he has no voice except us.

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  11. Karin said - "We never deserved him and we didn't appreciate him until it was too late. He was always too good for this world which is not a better place without him at all. It is a cynical, cold and uncaring world without him in it. "

    >>> Don't know what to say except I agree. But I am thankful that God doesn't forget us and at least try to get through to us through people like him. ♥
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    LiberianGirl said - "But, what could we have done, really."

    >>> Learn from it and tell others.
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    Daniela said - "A few days ago, 'you told me to never give up on Michael, thank you for these words are very important to me, but now' I repeat to you Bonnie, ok?
    I love you Bonnie!"

    >>> I have not given up on him at all Daniela . . . I am trying to talk myself out of giving up on our ability to learn from our mistakes. Sometimes I wonder, after looking through history why in the world, after all we've done, God even bothered and he still tries and people like Michael take up the call. This blog post was not meant to be a "giving up" but a plea.

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  12. LineCH said - "Thank You for enlighting the readers on who Michael the Human Being really was. Alike the Van Gogh painting showing an unlashed sky, the spreading light of the Cross in the middle is there to remind us to continue to hope & believe in God's Redemption, Justice & Love for the Righteous like Michael."

    >>> Thank you for the "God Bless you", CH and you as well. I do have faith that there will be justice. Sometimes my biggest fear is watching people completely lose the lesson and I hate the thought of someone going through what Michael did and another not seeing the purpose in it. :o(
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    SandyK said - "I'm sure he also knew that there would be those that couldn't be reached. All great artists encounter this. Anyone that has had a message worth sharing had doors closed in their face. Michael experienced this metaphorically and literally! I'm reminded of how he used to go door to door representing the JW church trying to share Christ's message with people and occassionally getting doors slammed in his face."

    >>> I remember this being my biggest fear when our church would go out on what we called "Visitations" and it was door to door witnessing. You can sell anything in the world door to door (and I've done that too) but when all you are offering is love and you STILL get the door slammed in your face, prepared or not, it hurts. I love that Miss Katherine still does that and I hope she stays safe while doing it. God protecting her :o)

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  13. PrincessGlam said - "Maybe they have something to feel guilty about? I know that I don't feel guilty because I didn't do anything TO him and I appreciated him from the very start. I feel that I deserve him, yes I do. "

    >>> I'm glad you can feel the way with confidence. I don't have that luxury and I have to admit I did nothing other than one prayer I can remember uttered during the 2005 trial. That was it. Back then I had my own problems, going through divorce, kids hurting and I was not focused on anyone but me and my children. I am sure he would appreciate hearing that from you very much. ♥

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  14. Bonnie – as usual a very heartfelt post. You’re right we don’t deserve him.

    You said, “The groups and “fan bases” involved with Charles Thomson, J. Randy Taraborrelli, Aphrodite Jones, the splitting of the fans between Kunesh, Malik, Jacobs and Justice4MJ, Faye and Degosson . . . Tell me what has changed?”

    I believe those “fan bases” who involve with those groups based their knowledge of Michael through the groups instead of studying the man, Michael, himself to understand the troubles he went through in his life with those surrounding him.

    I know, I know it’s easier and less time consuming to follow others who claim they know him better than doing your own research and find out about him. However, blindly following those groups who mask themselves as if they know him better but their main goal are to mislead and deceive and distort the truth resulted in “splitting the fans base.”

    The solution for this dilemma is to get close to Michael and allow him to speak to us by examining all that he gave us for many years. That’s where the wealth of knowledge about him resides.

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  15. PrincessGlam said...
    Bonnie,
    Several people have written pieces about how 'we did this to him' or 'we didn't deserve him'. Maybe they have something to feel guilty about? I know that I don't feel guilty because I didn't do anything TO him and I appreciated him from the very start. I feel that I deserve him, yes I do. And that is because from the late 70's early 80's I became increasingly worried about what was happening and could happen to Michael. He was becoming isolated even then, and frightened of fans when they tore his hair out or tore his clothes off. This was happening when he was still an adolescent. I felt it wasn't right for a young person to go through this week after week. But there was nothing I could do. There was no point writing to him in support because he received thousands of letters a day. I didn't have the money to travel to see him, to speak to him. So I decided all I could do is be there when he needed help. Speak up for him when people repeated tabloid lies.
    It's why I'm still here now, as he has no voice except us.

    >>> I agree with this. I've been a fan of Michael Jackson since 1993 when I was 13. I am younger than Michael Jackson nearly 21 years younger. I was bullied badly every day at school for loving Michael Jackson but I will stand by him and love him no matter what! I stood up for Michael and defended him every day at school. I will not tell you all the bad things and horrible jokes the school kids at my school would come up and tell me about Michael Jackson. I don't have anything to feel guilty about. I didn't do very well at school partly because I was so worried about Michael Jackson and the Evan Chandler/Jordan Chandler thing and being bullied so much. Jordan Chandler is about the same age as me I think he is a year younger than me. All the bad things that happened to Michael Jackson makes me feel physically ill. I had no way to reach out to Michael as I live in England and I couldn't afford to go over to LA to support him. I never met Michael Jackson, it was my dream to meet Michael Jackson but it never happened. I only had one wish which was to meet Michael Jackson and my wish never came true. I would of loved to of been friends with Michael and loved to of helped him. I saw Michael in concert once on his 'HIStory' tour but I was very far back from the stage. I belonged to the fan club 'MJ News International' (which no longer exists anymore). I think 'MJ News International' stopped in 2005. I used to get a magazine sent to me from MJNI called "King" magazine. It is not right what happened to Michael, not right at all!! Michael Jackson should STILL be alive and should STILL be living in his "Neverland" home in peace and quiet with his beloved children, and the press and all the others who made his life hell should of left him alone!! Michael of course left his "Neverland" home in 2005 after the police violated the place. Things were never the same again for Michael after 2005. But things really started going wrong for him from 1993 onwards. God bless you Michael Jackson if you are dead I know you are in God's Kingdom Heaven.
    Michael wanted to be loved by everyone and I wish everyone could of shown him their love more when he was alive and supported his career when he was alive but it is not the general public's fault, it is the media's fault they had it in for Michael Jackson!!
    Bonnie said "Michael's drive wasn't wealth, it was the purpose to reach the lost children with the message of love." That is so beautiful and so true.
    xxxx

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  16. Mimi said - "The solution for this dilemma is to get close to Michael and allow him to speak to us by examining all that he gave us for many years. That’s where the wealth of knowledge about him resides. "

    >>> You are right and I have said this many times on this blog in the past too, the closer to Michael you stay, the closer to the truth you will be. Metaphorically, we could also say the same thing about God (or . . . reverse that.)

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    LoveMJandGod said - "But things really started going wrong for him from 1993 onwards. God bless you Michael Jackson if you are dead I know you are in God's Kingdom Heaven."

    I also believe this is when it started being evident but it began before that . . . as soon as he bought that catalog. There is more to it though, than just the catalog. That is so sweet what you said about Michael being in God's Kingdom in Heaven♥

    I think Michael knew after 2001 or so that he would not be going back to stage performing. At least not like he had been. You could hear it in his songs. I am hugging you, {{{LovesMJ}}}.

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  17. Mimi said, "I believe those “fan bases” who involve with those groups based their knowledge of Michael through the groups instead of studying the man, Michael, himself to understand the troubles he went through in his life with those surrounding him."

    You're absolutley right Mimi, but how does Aphrodite Jones fit in to this? She did study the man and has said some very beautiful things about Michael in his defense. Yes, I agree, we should do our own research about Michael and certainly my research always starts with Michael himself first; his songs, poems, spoken words, and actions. I do not rely solely on blogs. For me, Ms. Jones words line up with the research I've done on Michael. She has not contradicted herself and has the support of T. Mesereau, who is another person who represented and continues to represent Michael beautifully with compassion, understanding and thoughfullness. Also, there are certain issues the general public will not be able to research by going on the internet. Ms. Jones and another journalist were able to get access to the evidence in the 2005 case. Meaning they were able to read through all of the trial transcripts, observe physical evidence and watch video testimony. That level of detail is not available on the internet and so will not be available for the general public to research at will. Most of the "professional" media misrepresented Michael as we all know during that trial. Ms. Jones did not misrepresent him. Because of her, we have a clearer picture of just how badly most of the media reported on Michael's case. The vast majority of that reporting was an utter disgrace as we all know. To date, she is the only source of information concerning the truth behind the 2005 trial that I believe is credible and reliable. She was there. She saw the evidence first hand. She has been up front and has not hidden anything about her past view of Michael. However, I do acknowledge that she didn't include Sony as a source of Michael's troubles. Hopefully she will pursue that in the future.

    Should all "media" be dumped in the same bucket? Is there no one that ever wrote about Michael in the so called "professional" media that can be deemed a credible source? So far, it appears that anyone that writes anything about Michael, even very positive supportive words, and gets paid for it, gets dumped in the same negative bucket. Ms. Jones did her research and educated herself about Michael Jackson and has handled herself very professionally. Since then, she has not said one negative or harsh word about him. Not one. I feel that she is being summarily dismissed purely because she wrote a book and has publically defended Michael. In the process, she has gotten paid for it and her name has become more well known. To me, this seems to be her only "crime." She was already a published author with a good paying job at FOXNews. (BTW, what ever money she made from her book was offset by her cost in order to publish it, which she did herself without the help of a publisher.) Michael periodically paid people to represent him. As we all know, many of those people have betrayed him and were fired. Michael never hired Ms. Jones to represent him, but represent him she did and she has done a much better job then the people that Michael entrusted to represent him directly. I don't blame Michael for that. That's NOT his fault. Those he hired are responsible for their own behavior and shame on them for betraying his trust.

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  18. Another thought that comes to mind is the relatively high profile of many of the bloggers that have emerged since June 2009 over and above existing blogs and message boards. All are subject to scrutiny using the same measuring stick. Many have appeared on internet talk radio and have clearly become points of focus and division (as has been mentioned), sadly, for the fan community. That was bound to happen. I think the vast majority don't receive money for their work, but they have gained something more valuable and that is identity recognition, despite the fact that many don't use their real names. A double edged sword for sure. Could any of these individuals decide to write books about their experiences writing about Michael on a regular basis sometime in the future? Possibly. Blogging is not new but the phenomenon of so many people intensely blogging daily, weekly, monthly about ONE person would make for an interesting book concept. (I have no interest in pursuing such a thing myself.) Although some of the blogs are controversial, all of them are dynamic and passoinate. Outside of political blogs, there aren't that many that get nearly the traffic that Michael Jackson blogs regularily get over a span of weeks, months and soon to slip into years. This is a phenomenon for sure. Anyway, if any bloggers do decide to write a book (or get paid for their blogs), would or should they then be condemned for combining identity recognition and money with their own work on Michael? I'm assuming the answer is yes. This is an interesting concept to concider and could be a slippery slope for any blogger that does decide to parley their established identity with their work on Michael into a publishing deal. EVEN if that deal doesn't ultimately involve writing about Michael.

    This seems to be the formula:
    Identity recognition + Money + MJ = Instant Vilification

    Could it be that ALL of the well known MJ bloggers are just one step away from being another Jones, Hughes or Thomson, as far as this formula is concerned?? Anyway, this is just a thought so forgive me for thinking out loud. It would be interesting to know anyone else's thoughts.

    Thank you for your comments, Mimi, they are always insighful and articulate.

    Blessings to you always...:-)

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  19. On a different subject, did anyone notice that during the recent Golden Globe awards Ronnie Chasen was given a mention? I thought this was interesting.

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  20. Bonnie, I am in tears...again... So many times you put into words what I have trouble expressing, but exactly what I am/have been feeling. I/We didn't deserve him and he was a much too beautiful person/soul for this world. I'm amazed how many times I've read "testimonies" that sound so much like mine. I have never met the man and yet I'm mourning him like no other person I've lost, people who were near and dear to me. Why? I think it lies in the fact that he had to be one of the most if not the most persecuted men in modern times and I think at any time in our history other than Jesus Himself. There is much guilt at the bottom of it I think. Bonnie, you said your heart aches to know what he went through. Mine does too and I think it's so unfair. He gave so much of himself, amassed a veritable fortune, a kingdom actually, and I don't say that jokingly, I am being very serious, and the people who killed him are running the show. It's unfair and it breaks my heart and makes me quite angry at the unfairness. Without telling too much of my personal story, I've witnessed something similar in my life, on a much smaller scale to be sure, but very huge to me nonetheless, where a person (ok, my ex-husband) did very underhanded things to me and I basically turned the other cheek. He is prospering beyond my belief and I've 1) lost my job, 2) was unemployed for almost a year, 3) took a job making about 1/2 what I previously made, 4) lost my home, 5) had to file bankruptcy, 6) am still having financial difficulties. I think it's unfair but the only thing I can think is that God is giving my ex chance upon chance to change. And that's the only thing I can think about the people involved in the estate and Sony: God is giving them chance upon chance to change but we/I want justice now.

    You know, I've spent a lot of time in the church and the bible and I've always thought, "My God, Jesus was crucified, hung on a cross, how could the people who lived then have done that to Him? I could never do that, etc. etc." Well, we had such a one in our midst, someone who "preached" love, kindness, etc. and the world "crucified" him and a lot of people, me included, stood by and did nothing. I was like you, going through a divorce, mind on my problems and life, when he went through his turmoils and I just knew in my heart he wasn't guilty but never delved into the whole trial and when he was acquitted, just sighed with relief and went on with my life. You are right, anger, sadness, regret, guilt...all at the root of how I'm feeling. Not for what I did, but for what I'm thinking I could have done...but then I think, really, what could I have done...so then I'm back to feeling sad and angry and...

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  21. SandyK said - "She did study the man and has said some very beautiful things about Michael in his defense. Yes, I agree, we should do our own research about Michael and certainly my research always starts with Michael himself first; his songs, poems, spoken words, and actions. I do not rely solely on blogs. For me, Ms. Jones words line up with the research I've done on Michael. She has not contradicted herself and has the support of T. Mesereau,"

    >>> SandyK, Which journalists would you like to pull out of the pile? I would like to know, so I know who it is I am not allowed to disagree with and with whom it is okay to disagree with.

    Aphrodite Jones - I have three issues that keep me from being her cheerleader:

    1. She called Charles Thomson a "sweetheart". Either she is ignorant of Charles behavior or she doesn't care.

    2. She supports the "Michael" CD, knowing who produced it.

    3. She is on the same "the press was responsible for Michael's persecution" bandwagon completely ignoring who was behind it.

    You said she studied the man. I read her book. She studied the CASE TRANSCRIPTS and the case itself as she sat through it. Has she ever even met Michael?

    She seems to be of the same "he's a drug addict" and "he's hopelessly gullible' mentality that the other "I thought he was guilty but after the trial I changed my mind" book writers.

    I think it's great that Hughes, Jones, and now Thomson (Halperin changed his mind too, forgot about him) all want to or HAVE written books about the press condemning Michael. But until they stop kissing Sony's derrierre and start addressing the EVIL CORPORATION at the core of what happened, I'm going to view them as exactly what they are exhibiting themselves as. Opportunitistic journalist-turned-Michael-Jackson-authors.

    I'm not sure what other bloggers you are referring to in the first post, you will have to clarify, but I get where you are going with this. This is EXACTLY why I turned down interviews. And as far me ever writing a book about Michael, it will never happen and for the very reason you just stated. I write a blog about justice for Michael as a human being. It's free. I don't even have any advertising on it, not even Google Ads (way too afraid that Sony's crap will show up on it).

    I don't have a problem with anyone capitalizing on their talents or calling, if that is where they believe God led them and that is their just reward . . . I DO have a problem with people making money off of Michael and trying to CANNONIZE IT. Between you and me, I think Michael has carried enough people for way too long. If it were me, I know I'd be flipping exhausted.

    Just how many people's career is Michael supposed to carry?

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  22. SandyK said - "On a different subject, did anyone notice that during the recent Golden Globe awards Ronnie Chasen was given a mention? I thought this was interesting. "

    >>> I didn't see it. What did they say?

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  23. Deb said - "I'm amazed how many times I've read "testimonies" that sound so much like mine. I have never met the man and yet I'm mourning him like no other person I've lost, people who were near and dear to me. Why?"

    >>> Deb, I am very sorry you went all through that. I am almost afraid to talk about what happened with my divorce. I shouldn't have been so nice and I never saw it coming. The business I had is gone. I can't even talk about what went on with the children and they are the reason I didn't fight back. I don't know how far you have come since then but if you haven't already, you WILL come through it. I know there are many people in the world that have had their characters assassinated, whether it was by the press, a rival collegue, or an ex-spouse.

    I heard a good message to day in church . . . several and I want to share at least this one:

    "It is when we are falsely accused that our characters become most important".(Pastor Rogers) I can think of no better modern example of that than Michael.

    The very first goal of putting up this blog was to let others I knew that were experiencing the same thing that I was, to know that they were not alone. I wanted to know why I had such a strong, undeniable conviction to communicate to others what I was learning about Michael.

    I never expected to be where we are today with this. It has opened my eyes to so much.

    (((Deb)))♥

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  24. Bonnie said, in response to Sandy K.'s comment regarding Aphrodite Jones, "which journalists would you like to pull out of the pile.... so I know who it is I am not allowed to disagree with and with whom it is okay to disagree with", and mentioned three areas of disagreement with Jones.

    I was thinking just this weekend that everyone does not agree with everything one particular journalist or blogger or poster puts forth, and respectfully I see this as a fitting example. A. Jones was the only mainstream journalist who did a complete 180 after the trial, saw the error of her ways, and attempted to rectify. I read Conspiracy 2x, self published by Jones, and, armed finally with the facts, she got it right. She was a journalist before 2003, covered the trial, had access to transacripts which others did not have, and wrote a book. And, yes, made some money. Imagine if Tarraborelli had that same access, what crap he would have put out, despite the facts contained in the transcripts! As for her support of the CD knowing who's behind it, her favorable words re Thomson, and blame on the press, if those are the portions of her position with which there is disagreement, then IMO she is free to state it on those issues, isn't she?

    Bonnie, this blog is very thought provoking on the subject of what "we" (nobodies) could have done to help Michael. I too am not at peace with that but like so many others was self-absorbed and uninformed, and except for his music (not promoted very well by Sony btw) he kept his problems to himself. Personally, I wish he had stayed at NL but understand why he could not. They still would have hounded him. You are correct, we should have listened more carefully to the words.

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  25. June said - "As for her support of the CD knowing who's behind it, her favorable words re Thomson, and blame on the press, if those are the portions of her position with which there is disagreement, then IMO she is free to state it on those issues, isn't she? "

    >>> Yes and so am I, aren't I?

    She is not the only journalist who has done a 180. Halperin also was and so was Charles, unless you believe as he had nothing to do with "Twisted Vision" or "Lowly Newshound". Which brings me to the "OTHER" 180 person: Geraldine Hughes who was NOT a journalist before but is now trying to be in front of the court house.

    Works for the other side . . . switches and writes a book AFTER the allegations (and settlement).

    Jones: Journalist, convinced he's guilty. Switches and writes a book AFTER the trial.

    Charles Thomson - He's around 17 years old during the trial but two years later becomes administrator (or one of them) for MJStar in which he writes some horrendous stuff about Michael. Then in 2008 he gets a "special assignment" for someone, to interview the head of marketing in the U.K. Sony corporate office about "Thriller 25 Anniversary". Just plucked out of obscurity, much like these other MJ-Celebs and now he's a "music expert?" Michael's been a singer twice as long as Charles has been a human being (questionably) and he's calling him "lazy".

    Many people out of the woodwork since the 1993 allegations, since the 2005 trial and now again SINCE the "death" of Michael.

    Again, Michael had four years to acknowledge or thank Jones and Hughes for their "work" in "redeeming him." With Hughes he had over a decade. "Same pattern with these people, Jesse". Michael Jackson, 2005 Jesse Jackson Radio Show.

    Why no mention of the corporation brought up during the trial which appears in the transcripts? None of the books mention that. None.

    Why June? Because she probably would not have gotten that "High Paying Position" on Fox News if she had done that.

    GIVE - - ME - - A - - BREAK.

    Very familiar Pattern. Wonder where Thomson is going to land once they coach him on cleaning up his language?

    Taraborrelli? He's now appearing on talk shows (at least one anyway, that I saw him on) speaking for John Branca and the intimate details of the Estate finances.

    On your last paragraph, you said - "You are correct, we should have listened more carefully to the words."

    I wish more people would, then all this wouldn't have to keep repeating myself.

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  26. One other point, June . . . You said Jones was given access to court documents that no one else had.

    Who gave her that access?

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  27. bonnie said: "One other point, June . . . You said Jones was given access to court documents that no one else had.

    Who gave her that access?"

    Thomas Mesereau

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  28. meigadas said - "Thomas Mesereau"

    Thank you Meigadas,

    And Mr. Mesereau just gave a member of the press access to court documents? How did he get the court to agree to this? Why would Mr. Mesereau just take the word of a member of the press?

    Does anyone ask how that happened? Does anyone ask how Justice for nobody got access to court documents no one else can get ahold of?

    This is not made clear in the book. I can't help but wonder why Jones, who after being a member of the rabid press, is suddenly trustworthy enough for the court AND the defending attorney to have unfettered access to court documents . . . yet cannot find a publisher for her book, especially if she had been published before.

    Weren't the same people behind the crooked courts behind the conspiracy to keep anything positive about Michael out of publication too?

    I don't understand this. Someone please explain.

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  29. Meigadas:

    Blogs I Follow
    CobraCrackCentral™ Michael Jackson Fanfictional HISStory Headquarters!!!!!
    From atop the Branches of the Giving Tree...
    Michael Jackson: And Justice for Some

    Thank you for your help.

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  30. @SandyK - I had the same feeling like yours about Aphrodite Jones at the beginning. But overtime, I have started questioning her when I became close to Michael to know whatever happened to this man who loves everyone, indiscriminately, and gave so much to the world. That’s when I put her and some like her under my radar.

    You said, “She did study the man and has said some very beautiful things...” I totally agree what Bonnie said, “She studied the CASE TRANSCRIPTS and the case itself as she sat through it.” There is a PARAMOUNT difference between studying the case and studying the man himself. If she was studying Michael, she would have included the SUORCE of his pain that lead to media vilifications and finally to the horrible child allegations.

    You said, “Ms. Jones and another journalist were able to get access to the evidence in the 2005 case... to read through all of the trial transcripts...That level of detail is not available on the internet and so will not be available for the general public to research at will.” As far as I am concerned cases like that including Michael Jackson's 2005 trial is a PUBLIC RECORD, means anyone, including you and I, who is interested can go to the court and view the transcripts. Therefore, her studying the court transcripts and viewing certain videos does not put her in a position that she knows him. I am sorry to say this SandyK, knowing and supporting Michael means first knowing the SOURCE OF HIS PAIN through his own words. Ms. Jones does not know who Michael Jackson is and his pain in a true sense.

    By the way, Mr. T. Mesereau support what she wrote on her book that explains the trial process. I don’t believe Mr. Mesereau supported her thinking she is his ally and will always defend him from those who put knife in his back to bring him down to his knee. Mr. Mesereau was very hesitant to support her knowing what she did to Michael vilifying him for years, but finally he did support what was written on her book because he wants the trial process to be known for the public. That's all.

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  31. @meigadas - Thomas Mesereau did not give Aphrodite Jones an access to the court transcript. During the trial, Mr. Mesereau could even stand her presence being there right in the court. He even said as I remember he despised her so much he refused to look, in the court, towards where she sat when he noticed she was trying hard to make eye contact with him.

    Again, he did not give her an access to the transcript and did not even have any authority to do so. She requested the court to have one and the Judge granted her. After she completed writing the book, she literally had to beg Mr. Mesereau to read the draft, which he finally agreed and decide to support what was written.

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  32. @Mimi - We cannot get online anymore to download transcripts for the 2005 trial. The web site they had set up for that is no longer active, which is why I question how "justice" got them. However, you may still be able to write directly to the court. I do not know if they charge, what they charge and how you would gain access, but the web site they had set up for that case specifically is now gone.

    Thank you for also clarifying Mesereau's position on his forward in the book.

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  33. It was Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville who granted Aphrodite Jones a court order to look at all the evidence of the trial, after Aphrodite Jones asked Judge Melville to grant her a court order.
    Although Thomas Mesereau didn't like Aphrodite Jones at first, he later ended up supporting her and he wrote the forward in her book about the trial. See this you tube clip:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU

    Is Tom Mesereau friends with Frank DiLeo? I saw a you tube clip of them together.

    By the way what do people make of William Wagener? I don't trust him.

    After what Bonnie says about Aphrodite Jones I don't trust her either.

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  34. LoveMJ said - "Is Tom Mesereau friends with Frank DiLeo? I saw a you tube clip of them together."

    >>> I don't know, but I did a blog write up including that video way back and also posted it on Facebook. They had dinner together when they were approached outside the restaurant and that video was taken.

    You said - "By the way what do people make of William Wagener? I don't trust him."

    http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/12/william-wagener-and-michael-jackson.html

    I don't trust him either.

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  35. Bonnie, here's the info on the Ronni Chasen mention during the recent Golden Globes:

    "Diane Warren Dedicates Golden Globe to Ronni Chasen

    Songwriter Diane Warren, who won her first-ever Golden Globe Award on Sunday night, dedicated the honor to her late friend and Hollywood power publicist, Ronnie Chasen. "The saddest thing about this is that she's not here to celebrate this with me," Warren said of Chasen. "I dedicate this to Ronni. Anything I get, I will dedicate to Ronni." Warren won her Golden Globe for "You Haven't Seen the Last of Me," performed by Cher in the movie musical "Burlesque." (THR)"

    Source:
    http://www.billboard.com/news/billboard-bits-lady-gaga-bringing-born-to-1004139247.story#/news/billboard-bits-lady-gaga-bringing-born-to-1004139247.story

    Source:
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/diane-warren-dedicates-golden-globe-72344

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  36. Mesrak (Mimi), Bonnie and LoveMJandGod, thank you for filling in the details concerning how A. Jones was able to get access to court documents. I know that they are public documents but I didn't know they were available on-line. I thought you could only get them by petitioning the court directly. Thanks for that clarification. BTW, was the actual video testimony also available on-line at one time? Or just the transcript of the video. Certainly if someone were doing research, seeing the video would be of more value than a transcript alone. Anyway, thanks again.

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  37. Bonnie - your question to me was who gave Jones access to the court documents. While I see others have answered, I agree that it was Judge Melville who, upon Jones' request, issued a court order giving her this access. Tom Mesereau did write the forward to Conspiracy and also appeared at a book signing with Jones. He had reviewed her drafts and the final book, and I am fairly sure he would not have written the forward or appeared with her unless he was satisfied with what she wrote. IMO, Tom M. would not have been fooled by Jones or anyone. He is a fighter, just like his client, Michael.

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  38. Mimi mentioned that Ms. Jones can't really know Michael without knowing the source of his pain. I agree. So I will amend my comment then, and acknowledge that although I believe she has studied the man, her study is incomplete. She's made a very good start but she needs to do more.

    Bonnie, this will be a difficult request but with your permission, would it be alright to post these quotes from A. Jones? This is just a small part of what I meant when I said that she has studied the man, albiet incompletely. The comments are beautiful and true and are a part of getting to know Michael the man. (The quotes are from her blog although I won't include the links.)

    "I think his fans remember Micheal for something people rarely acknowledge: Michael was a King of kindness." "

    "And my own tribute to Michael, as I try to remember everyday of my life, is to learn from him. Actually, it's quite difficult to mirror the "Man in the Mirror." It's hard to be more loving, to be more forgiving, and to show acts [of] kindness to strangers. Yet Michael did this everyday, even in the face of public humiliation and mockery."

    The last quote is AJ commenting on Michael's children as they accepted an award for him at last years Grammy's.

    "They are still so young, yet speak with the wisdom of the ages. Michael instilled this "world vision" in his three children, I know that for a fact."

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  39. SandyK said - ""I dedicate this to Ronni. Anything I get, I will dedicate to Ronni." Warren won her Golden Globe for "You Haven't Seen the Last of Me," performed by Cher in the movie musical "Burlesque." (THR)"

    >>> that was very interesting. I very much appreciate you taking the time to post that. Did Ronnie do the publicity on Burlesque or did she just attend the premier?
    -------------------------------------------

    SandyK said - "I know that they are public documents but I didn't know they were available on-line. I thought you could only get them by petitioning the court directly."

    >>> You USED TO be able to get SOME of the transcripts online for a fee. that stopped in 2008 and they took down the page. Now you would have to either petition the court directly or have a close friendship with the estate executors and those they bought off.

    I don't believe video was ever available to the public.
    -----------------------------------------------

    June said - "Tom Mesereau did write the forward to Conspiracy and also appeared at a book signing with Jones. He had reviewed her drafts and the final book, and I am fairly sure he would not have written the forward or appeared with her unless he was satisfied with what she wrote."

    >>> Yes, I know. This happened in 2007 and Tom Mesereau appeared for a total of 3 book signings, the last one being in November of 2007, from Jone's own web site: http://www.aphroditejones.com/tour.htm

    Given that Mesereau seemed to not want to do this in the first place and had to read the book before agreeing to even provide a foreward, I commend his caution.

    This does not instill any more confidence in Jones with me. I'm sorry but it doesn't. If it is true that Aphrodite had to practically shove this book down his throat before he would even look at it, "fooling" Tom was really not the issue. It was just campaigning to get someone of integrity to give her some credibility. Looks like she succeeded. I wonder how Tom really feels about that.

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  40. SandyK said - "Bonnie, this will be a difficult request but with your permission, would it be alright to post these quotes from A. Jones? This is just a small part of what I meant when I said that she has studied the man, albiet incompletely. The comments are beautiful and true and are a part of getting to know Michael the man. (The quotes are from her blog although I won't include the links.)"

    >>> I thank you very much for asking me.

    I don't have a problem with someone saying nice things about Michael. I have a problem with people needing a back-end reward to do it.

    The things Jones has said was also said by Samantha DeGosson. It has also been said by a number of his other enemies. I think Jones is very pretty. Saying that is not going to make her trust me. Does that make sense?

    Anyway, thank you for trying and for quoting her remarks here, but what she says is not as important as her actions and what MICHAEL has said.

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  41. About Aphrodite Jones...she has a TV crime series. Remember the one about Michael and all the hype to get people to watch? I did and was very disappointed in the information included, nothing new as I recall, nothing about the music industry etc. If she is such a good investigative journalist, why doesn't she know? If she does know, why didn't she even touch the subject?

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  42. Truthbtold said - "Remember the one about Michael and all the hype to get people to watch? I did and was very disappointed in the information included, nothing new as I recall, nothing about the music industry etc. If she is such a good investigative journalist, why doesn't she know? If she does know, why didn't she even touch the subject? "

    >>> Answer . . . what network does "True Crime" appear on? A&E? You know who's behind that, right?

    Then this from her website:

    "Early in her career, Jones was a nationally syndicated columnist for United Features Syndicate, writing celebrity profiles and covering the evolution of cable television. After five years of what she considered "fluff" reporting, Jones took her first step into the crime world when in 1990, Jones wrote a book about an FBI agent gone bad. The agent, Mark Putnam, was the first Special Agent in the history of the FBI to plead guilty to manslaughter. At the urging of her publisher, Pinnacle Books, Jones took on the "secrets of the FBI" and wrote The FBI Killer, a book that was subsequently made into the ABC-TV movie, Betrayed By Love, starring Patricia Arquette. Jones wrote A Perfect Husband, the story of Michael Peterson, which became the acclaimed 2007 Lifetime movie, The Staircase Murders.

    With the success of her first book, Jones was forced into "the world of crime." Next, she would profile four teenage girls who committed unspeakable acts of violence in her book, Cruel Sacrifice. Jones' 1993 account of teen killers became an instant best seller, hitting The New York Times list at number 4, where it remained for over three months. To this day, Cruel Sacrifice is considered a "cult classic" by crime buffs, and it has been heralded as the "first book to chronicle the epic teen violence problem" in America. "


    After all that she couldn't find one publisher for her book? It could have been a best seller, but she chose to self publish. She even HAD a publisher.

    Has anyone ever gone to this page on her web site? http://www.aphroditejones.com/news.htm

    Listen to every one of those video clips between March and the end of April 03. She's a lying, bought and paid for Journalist. She is RIGHT THERE ON CAMERA talking about how credible the Arvizos were!!! Now if they were SO CREDIBLE then how in the heck did Michael win that case?

    She wasn't just an "innocent" journalist believing Michael was guilty, she was actually PERPETUATING THE LIES ON T.V.

    Only AFTER THAT TRIAL did she do the about face. Go listen to what she is saying? You would have thought Sneddon paid her to do it!

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  43. @Mimi:"@meigadas - Thomas Mesereau did not give Aphrodite Jones an access to the court transcript. During the trial, Mr. Mesereau could even stand her presence being there right in the court. He even said as I remember he despised her so much he refused to look, in the court, towards where she sat when he noticed she was trying hard to make eye contact with him."
    Thanks for the correction Mimi, i try to educate myself and during the process, sometimes I'm wrong.
    @Bonnie: I do know that still I do not have judgment enough to respond correctly, but I do my homework, believe me, and I read EVERYTHING in order to broaden my view of the facts and to build a constructive approach.

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  44. @Meigadas - I saw your reading list. It's posted above. I just thought it rather timely you should wait until now to participate. Whatever I can do to help, I will try.

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  45. Bonnie said:
    ">>> Answer . . . what network does "True Crime" appear on? A&E? You know who's behind that, right?"

    No, who?

    " http://www.aphroditejones.com/news.htm
    Listen to every one of those video clips between March and the end of April 03."

    Wow, Bonnie...no clips I can find in that date range. Hope you saved them!

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  46. Sorry Truthbtold . . . Try 2005, not 2003. My mistake.

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  47. BonnieL said...

    "Sorry Truthbtold . . . Try 2005, not 2003. My mistake."

    That's ok, it did occur to me that it was probably 2005. And now that I see it was on FOX's O'Reilly, and she appeared so many times on his show, credibility in question on that alone. I personally think he is the most VILE "host" on TV.

    I haven't had a chance to watch them yet but you bet I will even though it means I have to suffer through that wretched O'Reilly.

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  48. @Truthbtold - I am really disgusted with Bill O'Reilly and I bought his book too! He's right about some things, but he is a sell out and he most DEFINITELY is not fair and impartial when it comes to Michael. Bill O'Reilly is just another Pharisee in a nation of Sadducees.

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  49. Disturbing to me is that O'Reilly has a VERY large, faithful and DEFENSIVE following. Some even act like him, treat others how he treats guests he doesn't agree with. (My sister, for example.)

    Here's a link for you about O'Reilly, which clearly explains and shows how he conducts himself. This video clip is very telling - a blatant example, in my mind, of brainwashing the public to support an agenda. How can so many people not see through this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY

    As you watch this Bonnie, and all, keep in mind the then president's political party (whom O'Reilly so nastily defends) and the party of I would say a majority of conservatives, including Christians of many denominations. Are they being mentally manipulated by people like O'Reilly and Beck of Murdoch's "Fair and Balanced" FOX news?

    That's why I can't watch FOX. I can't allow it in unless it is to study the tactics being used against us. It's part of something bigger, much bigger.

    One idea - destroy the conservative party from the inside so they have no credibility?:

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/443191/parasitism

    http://www.birdminds.com/Cuckoo.php

    Ok, moving on to your update - "The Murder of the King of Pop, Part 3" ...all this leads me there. ;o)

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  50. Truth said - "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY"

    >>>>>> Now this is funny! Not only because this KID outwitted Bill O'Relly, but also because FRANKEN is interviewed calling Bill O'Reilly a liar when we ALL KNOW that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TRUE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. In Their world it us "US AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE".

    They all share the same lifeboat.

    Here is another funny one of Bill O'Reilly. My brother sent this to me. I was rolling on the floor!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5qU4qudJYk

    My brother also sent me the "rap remix" of this and I couldn't breathe. Sometimes I hate my brother. That boy has no decorum.

    (fair warning . . . Bill has a foul mouth)

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