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Michael Jackson Justice: Sony/ATV and Michael through 2005

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Thursday, January 20, 2011

Sony/ATV and Michael through 2005


January 20, 2011 – Sony/ATV and Michael through 2005
If Michael Knew, Then What did He do?


Isaiah 38: 1-6:  1 “In those days Hezekiah was sick and near death. And Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, went to him and said to him, “Thus says the LORD: ‘Set your house in order, for you shall die and not live.’”

2 Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed to the LORD, 3 and said, “Remember now, O LORD, I pray, how I have walked before You in truth and with a loyal heart, and have done what is good in Your sight.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly.

4 And the word of the LORD came to Isaiah, saying, 5 “Go and tell Hezekiah, ‘Thus says the LORD, the God of David your father: “I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; surely I will add to your days fifteen years. 6 I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria, and I will defend this city.”’


News Just in – Approximately 127 arrests today in the largest FBI Mob Bust in History. Source  Keep watch on the unraveling of this story.  I wonder if this is making certain SOMEBODIES nervous?

More Tabloid Junk On Michael’s Finances
“But with your pen you torture men…You’d crucify the Lord”

Back in August of last year, I began covering the lawsuit of Transitional.  If you would like to refresh, you can glace over that at this source.  This follows the timeline of the transactions regarding the ATV from 2004 – 2006 according to the press.  In hindsight I feel like I have to rewrite that blog update considering the sources I then got my information from.  Notice the source containing the info on Fortress selling that loan to New Horizon is another Fox News Roger Friedman article.  Source .

The blog update at this source, covers what I had researched regarding filings and a contradiction in the timeline regarding Fortress/New Horizon Trust and the HSBC and Barclay’s.  Again the same Fox News sources which makes me question everything those people tried to help me on.

Between August 17th and August 28th, I had found enough information and had been in discussions with people, I began to suspect I was being “steered” in how I viewed certain information.  Seems I was not wrong because those people no longer post to this blog and instead, have posted AGAINST this blog on other blogs supporting the Estate Executors.

After I got over the initial shock that there were those “fans” that were more concerned with protecting certain entities that truly seeking justice for Michael, I began discounting their testimony and the whole pattern of the tapestry changed.  I was also overwhelmed with a sense of possibility and at the same time not feeling free to post certain information for fear of actually hurting Michael, I wrote the allegory “Final Curtain Call for Norma Jean”.  Source.  A paragraph from that allegory:

“Transitional stages of being increases her prescient sense of truth as she is lifted up. She is engulfed by it. She understands the reasons for every delay in the answers. She no longer knows fear, only resolve that truth has always been there like a fortress, and the Creator of all things watches over his children in omnipotent protection, supreme power.”  Source

This paragraph encompasses what I had learned about the real role of a certain ATV loan refinancing. This is the information Taaj Malik was so strongly trying to get from me, and this was the reason she had asked me to apologize to Randy Jacskon for her twitter tirade against him.  It was because of this I had stopped disclosing what I knew about Transitional and went in another direction on the blog.

Read that paragraph from “Norma Jean” again. 

According to the lawsuits filed against Michael by these entities, in the order of happening – Prescient was “hired” to finance or find financing for a loan refi before the BOA payment was due.  Prescient found Transitional who located refinancing through Fortress.  Fortress set up “New Horizon Trust” in February of 2006.

For some unknown reason, the description of the words and the order in which this transaction supposedly passed through these companies stuck in my head.

Definintion of “Prescient”:  Prophetic, psychic, discerning, perceptive.

Definition of “Transitional”:  Middle, midway, inbetween, intermediary

Definition of “Fortress”:  stronghold, citadel, fortification, castle

Definition of “New Horizon”:  innovative , fresh, original (new), prospect, possibility, perspective (Horizon).

Definition of “Trust”:  charge, custody, protection, entrust.

While this may mean nothing, I don’t think this thought came into my head for no reason.  I don’t make it a habit of word-smithing like this.  It was an inspiration and I followed it and that is what I learned.  It seemed like the succession of this transaction was as much a message to someone as it was a loan refinancing.  I’ll explain more below.

The bad guys forgot that for someone to MOVE this fast . . .

They have to THINK that fast . . .

Document of Agreement in which Fortress, Michael and Sony signed off on was an agreement on behalf of Michael to allow Sony the option of 1st refusal should Michael decide to sell his share of the Sony ATV. 

It also gave Sony the option of purchasing 25% of Michael’s 50% share SHOULD MICHAEL DEFAULT ON THE LOAN.  In return Sony agrees to dump John Branca off the board of Sony/ATV and bar him from any future business dealings with Sony that had anything to do with Michael.  I covered that, with link to copy of that agreement here on page 24.  Source. 

That was the purpose of that agreement and that is ALL it was.  There is no mention of HSBC or Barclay’s.  No mention of Sony providing any funds whatsoever.  So if Branca is back on the Sony/ATV board, does that mean Sony breached that contract with Michael?

I also discuss this and Branca-blogger’s twisting about such here.  Source,  less than halfway down.

Justicefornobody blogger has been the loudest on propagating the rumor that Sony helped Michael out of the Fortress Loan in 2006, which I debunked here:

“The blogger further states that Michael enlisted the help of Sony in 2006 with his loans. This is misrepresented according to the documents the blogger himself posts as reference. The help Michael got with his loans was from Fortress for both the $30 million Neverland refinance and the ATV backed $270+ million loan in 2006.”  Source.

Now, if Fortress sold this loan to Barclay and HSBC in 2006 after setting up the New Horizon Trust in February of 2006, then why did they set up New Horizon Trust II and New Horizon Trust III in November of 2007?  Fortress was out of the MJ business then according to Branca-blogger and the other journalist cronies.  Right?  Source for Phase II. And Source for Phase III, both a. and b.

What transactions did Signal Hill manage for Michael’s New Horizon Trust?  I see no HSBC nor Barclay’s mentioned on this list of transactions and this and all these took place in December of 2007.  What was Michael doing in November and December of 2007?

Michael was supposedly recording a new album with the Cascios in November of 2007. Source  The “new album” is I guess the “unfinished” tracks that Sony filled in for “Michael” album.

What else was Michael doing in 2007?  Well, in June and July, Michael was scouting out a new home in New Jersey and the Eastern Shore of MD.  Source and source (scroll down, article gone, comments remain..interesting), and source.

Michael in Japan in 2007,

Speaking to American Troops Stationed There

Oh yeah . . . And fending off “ticks”

Gang-Stalker, DeGosson’s little Irish Buddy

I have the same question for Branca-blogger . . . if Michael was so broke, then why was he shopping for estates on the Eastern shore and New Jersey? (hint to Michael . . . east coast weather sucks . . . stay away!  Did last year teach you nothing?).

If Fortress bowed out of the Michael Jackson business in 2006 by selling loans to Sony’s HSBC and Barclay’s, then why is New Horizon Trust, set up and owned by two of Michael’s businesses and Fortress, opening Phase II and III a year after Fortress supposedly sold the loans?  Why is Signal Hill managing these transactions for these Trusts and not Barclay’s or HSBC?

What does Sony and Branca get out of setting up blogs and steering committees (through facebook fan groups) by putting these stories out there?  Just what did Branca refinance if the loan has been long retired?  Why so much trouble out of some of the facebook groups over any unearthing of possible good news for Michael?  What are they trying to cover up?

Let me remind you how much trouble these people went to to throw me off course. This includes Sam DeGosson, Taaj Malik, Stephanie Wilburn,  Lady Acquarius, Michaelpuresoul, Erin Jacobs and Justice4MJ, TINI and further back Thomson and Taraborrelli, and some of those bloggers, who continue to railroad fans down the misinformation highway.  Source part 6

Back to the mystery of the ATV loans, who are these people again?  In the order of events, Don Stabler was the one who allegedly, with Randy Jackson, tried to “force” Michael to sign agreements he did not want to sign.  Don Stabler has nothing to do with Prescient Acquisition.  Prescient Acquisition is a separate company.

Don Stabler – His website link on his name.  This is more than what I could find on Prescient.  Just my opinion but that website is a bit tacky.  Testimonials and clients?  Coming soon, LOL!  Website is designed and maintained by Zilk.inc.  Ready for this?  Zilkie and Karen Faye! Source  - Excuse me . . . I have to close that stupid Stabler window.  That crappy music is getting on my nerves.  Kind of reminds me of the story of the MJ membership website Faye and Zilkie put up and were fired from during the trial.

Prescient Acquisition – Darian Dash. The only thing I could find under searches for Darian Dash and Prescient is a whole Google search page full of legal firms and lawyers all claiming to have represented either Prescient or Michael in that lawsuit.  Prescient has no web site unless it is so unimportant, it’s 100 pages back in the search results.

Transitional Investors – Stuart Shelly with a four page, bare bones web site.  Stuart Shelly is the only principle.  Excuse me, but a company handling, even as a pass-through, loans in the vicinity of hundreds of millions of dollars and they have no testimonials or clients lists?  No officers?   Website designed by Xtreme Results, both companies located in Irvine Ca.

Transitional Breech of Contract – This is the “breach of contract” complaint from Transitional, dated December 14, 2007, filed July 13, 2007, shortly after Michael left Maryland while “house-hunting”.  If Sony sent people to Bahrain in 2006 with refinancing set up with HSBC and Barclay’s then what is this?  Who is lying?

This from Ethan Smith of the Wall Street Journal:

“However, Mr. Jackson's biggest financial obligation remains unresolved. A $300 million loan from Barclays PLC, backed by his 50% stake in SONY/ATV, matures at the end of the year. To secure the loan in 2006, Mr. Jackson appealed for help from Sony, which dispatched two executives to meet him in Dubai and negotiate terms under which it would guarantee the loan.”  Source

So they are indeed carting around the Fortress Refinance as a Sony assisted Barclay loan, but why?   To save face?

Below is an overview of Michael’s Businesses, types of business, date established, statuses.  Take note of the dates of New Horizon Trust.

Can you explain all that to me again?

You said WHAAAAA?

Barclay and HSBC is quickly becoming a figment of someone’s imagination.  There is no contract with Sony OTHER than the agreement to fire Branca from the Sony/ATV board in exchange for a chance for Sony to have right to first refusal and a 25% purchase option should Michael ever default.  He never did.


Current List of Michael’s Businesses


MANAGEMENT

Name: MJJ Legacy LLC
Profile: Management (Newly established, exact profile still unknown, accounting firm: Holthouse, Carlin & Van Trigt LLP, legal firm: Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP)
Established: 9-22-2008
Status: Active

Name: MJJ Productions LLC and Inc.
Profile: Management (Old company, re-activated for copyright reasons)
Established: Re-activated on 07-31-2008 (10-30-1979)
Status: Active

Name: Michael Jackson Co. LLC
Profile: Management (Established in the "Raymone Bain era", it's future is still unknown)
Established: 06-13-2006
Status: Active

MUSIC PRODUCTION

Name: MJJ Kingdom LLC
Profile: Music production (Newly established, exact profile still unknown, headed by Peter M. Lopez from Kleinberg Lopez Lange Cuddy Edel & Klein LLP, legal firm: Robin C. Gilden from Reish Luftman Reicher & Cohen LLP)
Established: 08-08-2008
Status: Active

Name: MJJ Music Inc. (Joint venture with Sony)
Profile: Music label
Established: 17-09-1997
Status: Active

Name: MJJ Records LLC
Profile: Music label
Established: 08-15-1997
Status: Cancelled on 04-26-2002

VIDEO PRODUCTION

Name: MJJ Ventures Inc.
Profile: Video production (Old company, re-activated for copyright reasons)
Established: 2-26-1991
Status: Active

LICENSING

Name: MJ Licensing LLC
Profile: Licensing
Established: 10-10-2003 (Re-activated on 04-18-2007)
Status: Active

Name: Triumph International Inc.
Profile: Licensing
Established: 07-19-1982
Status: Cancelled on 03-01-2003

PUBLISHING

Name: MiJac Music Inc. (under Waner-Tamerlane Publishing)
Profile: Publishing
Established: 1979
Status: Active

Name: Sony ATV Music Publishing LLC
Profile: Publishing
Established: 11-02-1995
Status: Active

Name: MJ ATV Publishing Trust (Jackson's 50% stake in Sony ATV Music Publishing LLC)
Profile: Publishing
Established: 02-09-1999
Status: Active

Name: MJ Publishing LLC (Jackson's 100% stake in Mijac Music Inc.)
Profile: Publishing
Established: 11-30-1998
Status: Inactive

Name: New Horizon Trust
Profile: Publishing
Established: 02-10-2006
Status: Active

Name: New Horizon Trust II.
Profile: Publishing
Established: 11-09-2007
Status: Active

Name: New Horizon Trust III.
Profile: Publishing
Established: 11-13-2007
Status: Active

Name: Sony MJ Music Publishing LLC
Profile: Publishing
Established: 11-02-1995
Status: Active

Name: MJ Sony Music Trust
Profile: Publishing
Established: 1995
Status: Cancelled on 05-31-2006

PROPERTIES

Name: Sycamore Valley Ranch Company LLC
Profile: Properties
Established: 07-15-2008
Status: Active

Now, I’m tired.  I’m not done, but I’m tired.  I’m sure comments will be stimulating.

And now a word to Michael, who wherever he is, has my utmost respect in creating one of the most confusing, tangled and twisted puzzles I have ever come across in my life.  I’m sure I don’t have all of it right, but then where would the fun be in that?

Love you guys, I’m tired . . . bye for now.

Michael in 2009 – Check the Shirt

And Sense of Humor…

44 comments:

  1. Dear Bonnie,
    It seems like your investigations worried someone. There are others tweets of insults about you. You have my support ( for what it is worth) and you are in my prayers. Perhaps someone starts to get scared? I hope so with all my heart.However Bonnie, take care of yourself.

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  2. Coxib35 said - "It seems like your investigations worried someone. There are others tweets of insults about you. You have my support ( for what it is worth) and you are in my prayers. Perhaps someone starts to get scared? "

    >>> Half of them are merchants who were selling stuff online before Michael "died" and just decided to jump on the bandwagon. The other half are being led by "factions" from different camps who all basically have the same corporate backer. I was just called a religious fanatic by someone who used to post here. Funny, it didn't seem to be a problem when Deborah Kunesh claimed her "calling" or Michael mentioned God in every single interview . . . but then Sony took care of HIM didn't they?

    Let them bleat. They're not fooling anyone and the more they talk the more they reveal who they are. Maybe that's what I'm here for.

    {{{Hugs}}}

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  3. Bonnie,
    OMG Karen Faye created Stabler's website? that is too funny!
    I have been checking my timeline for 2007:
    July 07 - Sony 'pushing' Michael to allow them to sign new song-writers.
    August 07 - at the Cascio's
    November 07 - at the Palms LV for 4 months
    December 07 - first reports of concerts at the O2 being discussed.

    Either timeline is evidence for me that Michael was aware of the issues, and was putting his own counter-plans in place :-) Just love the man!

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  4. Bonnie,
    Me again! As before, feel free to delete if you feel this post gives too much away.
    According to this article:
    http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/23/news/companies/michael_jackson_money_assets.fortune/

    When Sony turned up in 2005 with their 'offer', Fortress exercised a right it held to match any financing terms and held onto Michael's loans. This was until 2007, when the Barclays/HSBC/Plainfield financing took place BUT Fortress held onto the Neverland mortgage. This is why they were still in the picture in 2007! They then sold the mortgage to Colony Capital in 2008.

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  5. Uh, that t-shirt....
    that's from when Michael went to see the BODIES exhibition in Vegas, he brought Prince and Paris too.... a very, err, peculiar sort of exhibition that is - quite impressing I'm sure. Don't know that I'd ever be able to enjoy it, in all fairness. But Michael is a voracious knower of all things Human, right? http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/lasvegas/

    Love,

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  6. Bonnie, my head is spinning with all of this detail. Small wonder you are tired. Would you like some asprin?

    I am still digesting and trying to get my head around all of this information you have dug up for us. It is huge. Tonight was the first time that I came to realise just how determined Michael was to have Branca out of his life. Michael signed that agreement with Sony in order to kick Branca to the kerb.

    Bonnie, it just does not make sense that Michael would then leave a will lying around appointing Branca as executor controlling his assets by way of estate administration. This is more validation that the will is fake, fake and fake and that Branca was not invited back into Michael's life days before 25 June 2009.

    The other thing I have been thinking about of late Bonnie (only because you have been blogging on this for a few days now) is that I don't think that Branca will ever allow Sony to get their hands on that catalogue. The reason is that he is sitting in the box seat. He virtually has control of 50 per cent of it and he makes more money administering Michael's estate than Sony would ever be prepared to pay him. Out of all the F team - well, who succeeded - John Branca? Indeed, this could be a case of Branca outsmarting Sony. Sony signed a contract for $250 million for albums of Michael's unpublished work but - where is the work and where is the music? Notwithstanding, Branca and McClain are sitting pretty with their 10 per cent cut and they are controlling Michael's share of the catalogue at the same time. These guys have managed to hijack everything and have become multi millionares. They get to make the decisions, they get to sit on the boards so they have the power.

    Methinks that Sony may have been had by the executors but then there is no loyalty between thieves. What do they say about never trusting a lawyer? (My apologies to any lawyers reading this).

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  7. Dear Bonnie,

    I know you don't have time to argue with the clowns that are harrasing you, So i just want too let you Know that I have a special talent with profanity and I can and will make someone cry just for you. Words are a powerful thang! I got your back.

    Love Ya!

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  8. Bonnie said: "Michael, who wherever he is, has my utmost respect in creating one of the most confusing, tangled and twisted puzzles I have ever come across in my life." You are right, a really convoluted story, but we must not forget that Michael was a genius. Unfortunately, the genes are not made for this world (see Mozart). They are too pure, genuine and loving. In this world there are also demons who suck the blood.
    Michael's shirt, I've seen in a previous picture and I smile. Michael was special.
    We love you Michael,wherever you are!

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  9. PrincessGlam, you first. Why? Because you posted the very same article someone else posted and it is the ONLY ARTICLE I could find which reports a 2007 date of this Barclay's refinance through Sony. Here is what I did find, including NYtimes, Wallstreet Journal and MichaelJackson.com amonst others:

    New York Times June of 2009 - “In late 2005, while Mr. Jackson was living in the Middle East after being acquitted of child molestation, his finances were particularly precarious. Sony then negotiated a deal with the singer that resulted in Mr. Jackson paying a lower interest rate on his debt in return for Sony gaining more authority to operate Sony/ATV and the option to buy half of Mr. Jackson’s share.” Source http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/business/media/27finances.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&ref=global-home

    Wall Street Journal June 21, 2010 - “However, Mr. Jackson's biggest financial obligation remains unresolved. A $300 million loan from Barclays PLC, backed by his 50% stake in SONY/ATV, matures at the end of the year. To secure the loan in 2006, Mr. Jackson appealed for help from Sony, which dispatched two executives to meet him in Dubai and negotiate terms under which it would guarantee the loan.” Source http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703438604575315364195884770.html

    BBC April 2006 - “A statement issued in Bahrain by Jackson adviser Grahame Nelson said the singer "has restructured his finances with the assistance of Sony".
    He has lived in Bahrain since being cleared of child abuse charges in June.
    "Following negotiations with several leading financial institutions, Mr Jackson has concluded refinancing with affiliates of Fortress Investment Group, the lender that currently holds secured debts that were previously held by Bank of America," the statement added. “ Source http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4909412.stm

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  10. @PrincessGlam cont. -

    Hitsville.com June 27, 2009 – “Colony was also said to be behind the pressure for him to get his ass back on stage and earn some money. As for Fortress, the Times says flatly today that Barclays now holds the big sum of $300 million against his share of Sony/ATV now, which is I assume the former Fortress debt. Next to the status of Sony/ATV, the big question about Michael Jackson right now is this debt; last year the WSJ said it was $400 million, so obviously neither paper is working with precise sources. And no one’s talking about what Sony got for its original bailout of Jackson, back in 2006.” Source http://www.hitsville.org/2009/06/27/the-death-of-michael-jackson-topics-for-further-discussion/

    Posted on MichaelJackson.com June 21, 2010 From Wall Street Journal – “When the Fortress-owned loans came due in december 2006, MJ lacked sufficient funds to repay them. It appeared he would have to sell some portion of his share in the catalog to raise funds.
    Instead, Sony came to the rescue and sent two executives to Bahrain. The Sony executives negotiated a deal for Jackson that resulted in Jackson getting a lower interest rate on his $300 million debt through a refinancing arrangement with Barclays PLC.
    In return, Sony gained more authority (not a bigger stake of the catalogue) to operate Sony/ATV catalog.
    An advisor to MJ publicly announced he had "restructured his finances with the assistance of Sony." Source http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/865041

    PopHistory – “By April 2006, Jackson was living temporarily in Bahrain after his child molestation trial. Needing money, Jackson again turned to the Sony/ATV/Beatles catalog to help with creditors. It appeared he would have to sell some portion of his share in the catalog to raise funds. Instead, Sony came to the rescue and sent two executives to Bahrain. The Sony executives negotiated a deal for Jackson that resulted in Jackson getting a lower interest rate on his $300 million debt through a refinancing arrangement. In return, Sony gained more authority to operate Sony/ATV/Beatles catalog, and also retained an option to buy a further half of Jackson’s share. “ Source http://www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=sonyatv-music-publishing

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  11. @Princess Glam - And now for something that will really tick you guys off, from Time.com (Time Magazine)

    Time.com July 1, 2009 – “What's more, in early 2007, Sony recruited industry veteran Martin Bandier, who turned rival EMI into a publishing powerhouse, to lead the unit. The hire seems to have paid off.
    The result: industry sources estimate Sony/ATV's revenue has grown more than 60% in the past two years, to an annual $500 million. Net publisher's share —a closely watched figure in the industry, which is sales minus payments to artists — has doubled, to an estimated $200 million. "The music-publishing business is ripe with opportunities, and we are continuing to grow our business," says Bandier.
    Jackson, though, might not be able to sell his interest in Sony/ATV for its full $1 billion value. In 2006, as part of a deal to restructure his mounting debts, he gave Sony/ATV an option to buy half of his holdings in the company at a later date. Sony will not disclose the terms of that deal, but it probably limits what the Japanese company would have to pay Jackson for half of his Sony/ATV stake.
    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1908185,00.html#ixzz1BhC7qrtk


    Marty Bandier is brought in as CEO of Sony/ATV. Look at the revenue and then the earnings - payments to artists!

    This . . . THIS is Michael Jackson's NOT SONY'S!

    Why is it that a catalog THIS VALUABLE and earning THAT KIND OF REVENUE couldn't pull Michael out of the hole?

    WHO WAS GETTING MICHAEL'S MONEY????

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  12. Everyone -

    I also caught on one of those links a mention of the "Michael" Album and how much misinformation is on the credits.

    The Barclay's refi in the links I provided had timelines that ranged from late 2005 through the end of 2006.

    NONE OF THEM HAVE THE TRUTH and these people putting out this information and the ones GIVING them this info don't even care that their stories are not matching up!

    Rant over . . . for now.

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  13. PrincessGlam said - "OMG Karen Faye created Stabler's website? that is too funny!
    I have been checking my timeline for 2007:"

    >>> It is Zilkie's business but aren't they partnered?

    Michael, I'm sorry you have such an opportunist for a hair dresser. You deserved MUCH better and I'm sorry that YOUR FANS who follow her don't care.
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    Simo said - "Don't know that I'd ever be able to enjoy it, in all fairness. But Michael is a voracious knower of all things Human, right? "

    >>> I'm with you in the queasy department, but seeing Michael's appreciation of God and creation and viewing everything that God made as a work of art, I can definitely see Michael's interest in attending and taking his children to something like that.

    I think our bodies and the way they have been designed to work is a miracle in itself . . . but I have problems with seeing them torn up after the souls are gone out of them. Aside from being a horrific sight, it is disrespectful of the artist . . . God. I'd rather see them whole.

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  14. Karin said - "I don't think that Branca will ever allow Sony to get their hands on that catalogue. The reason is that he is sitting in the box seat. He virtually has control of 50 per cent of it and he makes more money administering Michael's estate than Sony would ever be prepared to pay him. Out of all the F team - well, who succeeded - John Branca?"

    >>> I was thinking the same thing. Bandier isn't making that kind of money as CEO of the catalog, Tommy Mottola is probably sitting in the wings somewhere going "WTH?", Koppelman, who with Bandier put in a lot of investment in the early years trying to snag it, Modabber . . . all those people sitting in that conference room in the picture. I think Branca is going to learn real quick just how Michael felt and the suspicion he had to live under, and I know no one that deserves it more . . . except the rest of the people in that room of course.

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  15. Marvelousmary said - "I know you don't have time to argue with the clowns that are harrasing you, So i just want too let you Know that I have a special talent with profanity and I can and will make someone cry just for you. Words are a powerful thang! I got your back.

    Love Ya! "

    >>> ROFL!!! Don't you dare! It's okay. They are saying those things on other sites, not this one, because I won't let them in. Mommy said I'm not allowed to play with them anymore, LOL!

    Thank you. Love you too! Thank you for the laugh.♥
    --------------------------------------------

    Daniela said - "You are right, a really convoluted story, but we must not forget that Michael was a genius. Unfortunately, the genes are not made for this world (see Mozart). They are too pure, genuine and loving. In this world there are also demons who suck the blood."

    >>> That reminds me of that song "Starry Starry Night" by Don McClean Cont. Have to post this:

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  16. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxHnRfhDmrk
    Song has always made me cry.

    Starry, starry night.
    Paint your palette blue and grey,
    Look out on a summer's day,
    With eyes that know the darkness in my soul.
    Shadows on the hills,
    Sketch the trees and the daffodils,
    Catch the breeze and the winter chills,
    In colors on the snowy linen land.

    Now I understand what you tried to say to me,
    How you suffered for your sanity,
    How you tried to set them free.
    They would not listen, they did not know how.
    Perhaps they'll listen now.

    Starry, starry night.
    Flaming flowers that brightly blaze,
    Swirling clouds in violet haze,
    Reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue.
    Colors changing hue, morning field of amber grain,
    Weathered faces lined in pain,
    Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand.

    Now I understand what you tried to say to me,
    How you suffered for your sanity,
    How you tried to set them free.
    They would not listen, they did not know how.
    Perhaps they'll listen now.

    For they could not love you,
    But still your love was true.
    And when no hope was left in sight
    On that starry, starry night,
    You took your life, as lovers often do.
    But I could have told you, Vincent,
    This world was never meant for one
    As beautiful as you.

    Starry, starry night.
    Portraits hung in empty halls,
    Frameless head on nameless walls,
    With eyes that watch the world and can't forget.
    Like the strangers that you've met,
    The ragged men in the ragged clothes,
    The silver thorn of bloody rose,
    Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow.

    Now I think I know what you tried to say to me,
    How you suffered for your sanity,
    How you tried to set them free.
    They would not listen, they're not listening still.
    Perhaps they never will...

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  17. Bonnie,
    Although that CNN article I posted is a good source, I do take issue with this sentence:
    "The other loans against Sony/ATV and MiJac were both structured so that Jackson was unable to access any of the money -- dividends and profits went directly toward debt payments".
    It makes it sound as if Michael had nothing to do with the restructure, and that someone else set it up this way because Michael was too dim. Um...yeah. I suppose the contracts didn't have to have his signature either? Nooooo of course Michael Jackson wasn't a savvy business man.....for all they know he structured it to stop OTHERS accessing the money and assets ;-)
    But of course this sentence does explain where all the $100m profits were going - to pay off the debts.

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  18. Wow, Bonnie! With this and your last update you are really getting to the meat of things now!

    Saying that protection prayer!

    IF Sony execs did go to Bahrain to do a deal with Michael, I can only think it had to be part of MICHAEL'S plan. That was 5 years after he "outed" them. As for Branca..."give him enough rope" - Michael again. Michael no doubt spent hours upon hours studying these people's MOs and had/has a talent within his genius nature for 'predicting' behaviors and probable "business" decisions based upon that. Those are my thoughts at this point anyway.

    I had the same thought about the mafia roundup. ;o) Have they published a full list yet?

    Love that Don McClean song! I used to listen to it a lot. I believe it's titled 'Vincent'.

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  19. Very interesting Bonnie.

    I have a question: Who took the picture of the "F Team" and how did it get into circulation?

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  20. Bonnie posted;

    Definintion of “Prescient”: Prophetic, psychic, discerning, perceptive.


    Definition of “Transitional”: Middle, midway, inbetween, intermediary


    Definition of “Fortress”: stronghold, citadel, fortification, castle


    Definition of “New Horizon”: innovative , fresh, original (new), prospect, possibility, perspective (Horizon).


    Definition of “Trust”: charge, custody, protection, entrust.

    With a spiritual mind apply those definitions to your research along with what you already know...

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  21. Oh Bonnie, you have no idea how much I love reading the quote from The Bible you always put on your blog that related to Michael and his life. I don’t read the Bible as I should have, but every time you quote this incredible book it takes my breath away.

    I was so excited reading today’s post. I’m telling you, it feels so good always to know the truth.

    Wow!! I have heard the mobster bust this morning and read the link you attached. I hope this kind of bust extended to those mobs who are allowed to do the dirty works for Big Corporations.

    Oh Bonnie, it would make “certain SOMEBODIES nervous” like I said, if the investigations to bust mobsters extended to those Big Corporation. I hope it does, and let’s keep watching.

    The way you put Michael’s loan puzzle into step by step to explain it makes it more clearer to understand for those of us who were confused how things were related, and thanks for that. What a lesson, very valuable one. But I still have some questions. Why Barclay and HSBC were inserted into this transaction in the beginning, and to cover what? What is the New Horizon Trust suppose to do or what is the main function when it is related to the loan?

    Why is that almost all those Michael’s Businesses status are still say active, and what does it mean?

    I am surprised by the T-shirt he wore. Is he trying to make some statement?

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  22. PrincessGlam said - ""The other loans against Sony/ATV and MiJac were both structured so that Jackson was unable to access any of the money -- dividends and profits went directly toward debt payments".
    It makes it sound as if Michael had nothing to do with the restructure, and that someone else set it up this way because Michael was too dim."

    >>> All of those articles are like that and I'm sick of it!!! How many times does it have to be repeated that Michael's LAWYERS AND ACCOUNTANTS were the ones not paying his bills, NOT HIM! Michael didn't whip out a checkbook and pay his electric bill! If he DID, it would have been done!

    Hey Allan Whitman - WHAT DID YOU PAY YOURSELF $100k A MONTH FROM MICHAEL FOR? YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO EARN IT! Makes my blood boil!!! Why aren't these STUPID NEWS SOURCES asking these questions???
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    Truthbtold said - "IF Sony execs did go to Bahrain to do a deal with Michael, I can only think it had to be part of MICHAEL'S plan. That was 5 years after he "outed" them. As for Branca..."give him enough rope" - Michael again. Michael no doubt spent hours upon hours studying these people's MOs and had/has a talent within his genius nature for 'predicting' behaviors and probable "business" decisions based upon that. "

    The only way they could have gotten into Bahrain at that time (in my opinion) is if Michael wanted them to come in. Why do I say that? Because Michael was still in Prince Abdullah's good graces at that time and Bahrain is not a country you can just fly in and out of. If the Royal Family doesn't want you in, you don't get in.

    Secondly, if this happened in 2007, as the article in CNN suggested, Michael was back in the states then and NOT in Bahrain.

    Michael knew all about Sony. His eyes were not closed.

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  23. Truthbtold - Sorry I missed it, no . . . to my knowleged they have not published a full list yet. Somehow I do not think they are finished.
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    Miss Shae said - "I have a question: Who took the picture of the "F Team" and how did it get into circulation? "

    >>> I'm sorry but I don't know. You'll have to ask "Branca's blogger" about that one since that is where I first saw the picture. He is the one that used it to try and prove Branca was still working for (behind his back) Michael when in fact he was working for himself at Michael's expense.

    On the word definitions . . . I already have. that's what gave me the idea. :o)
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    Mimi said - "Why Barclay and HSBC were inserted into this transaction in the beginning, and to cover what? What is the New Horizon Trust suppose to do or what is the main function when it is related to the loan?

    Why is that almost all those Michael’s Businesses status are still say active, and what does it mean?"

    >>> Bodyworks T-Shirt . . . just a T-shirt he got from the exhibit. Not a statement, just an impulse buy, LOL. Or????

    Barclay's supposedly bought the loan from Fortress, but according to the conflicting timelines and press stories this either did not happen, or it did not happen when they said it did. All three New Horizon Trusts are still active, still owned by 2 MJ companies and Fortress as they were set up and managed by Signal Hill. Signal Hill lists no such transactions or business with either HSBC or Barclay's. I can only assume at this point, that the Barclay's loan is another Sony-fed press story. All three New Horizon Trusts are listed as Publishing. So what they are trying to pull I have no idea.

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  24. Signal Hill...wow! "Fortress"es are built on a hill (from which signals are sent?!). If you insert that into the list:

    Prescient+Transitional+Fortress+Signal Hill = New Horizon

    Is it a message?

    The T-shirt...

    Reminds me of Ghosts. Is it a reminder?

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  25. Bonnie,
    I may have missed something in my research, but I have not come across Signal Hill before. According to thr Special Administrators Report from our frenemies at the estate, the Two Johns,in July 2010, and assuming this document is genuine:

    New Horizons Trust II : trustee is the wells Fargo Delaware Trust Company, and this trust pays off the recently negotiated UBS loan. This loan also has a Sony guaranty. The UBS loan replaces the Barclay loan.
    New Horizons Trust III : pays the recently negotiated HSBC Refinance agreement loan off. I'm not sure who the trustee is.The new loan replaces the Plainfield/HSBC loan.

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  26. TruthBTold, I understand were you are going with this:

    "Prescient+Transitional+Fortress+Signal Hill = New Horizon"

    I am of the opinion we, humanity, have been decieved and that deception goes back long long ago. Through his faith and studies along with his life lessons MJ figured it out. He knew that many would try and figure out what really happened to him and the events leading to his death. When you look beyond the surface, as Bonnie found it, it is a maze that is very confusing but if you stay focused you can begin to figure it out. The point is you have to look to find the truth and not believe everything fed to you because it is thier truth not the truth.

    MJ used alot of symbolism and numerology throughout his work. I questioned why and the importance of it. I am of the opinion that MJ figured out what "they" have been doing and why. "They" are a collective that have been in existence since ancient times. We must remember MJ was well versed on world history. He was a blessed man led by faith. Symbolism and numerolgy has been a major tool used to decieved humanity and lead them further into darkness. He is using those two things to make an earnest attempt to lead us back into the light.

    The names of the financial institutions are representative of money. When Bonnie looked up the definitions she realized the dual meaning. I am of the opinion that MJ realized, through his studies, that religion has been and continues to be used to control not out of the love of God but out of the love and or lust for money and what comes with wealth. Dominance!!! I also believe he figured out who has been behind this deception and if you dig further you will too. The manipulation that has taken place is massive and it affects all of humanity.

    The persona of Conrad Murray is a symbolic metaphor. He is in the middle. What is he in the middle of? MJ and AEG. Bonnie asked in her comments on a different blog post, why the unsigned contract was left on the bed. The unsigned contract represents, in my opinion, that neither side was committed. If you put that in a spiritual context:

    God(Light,Goodness)-Humanity(Lost,not fully committed)-Evil(Darkness, earthly riches)
    I am not saying that AEG is evil but it symbolically represents the lust of the flesh. Money, earthly riches. What did Jesus teach??

    If you look at the times given in the 911 call along with the Opis None remix it ties together but you have to research to understand the significance. It speaks of destiny...Its deep an another example of MJ's inteligence and commitment to enlighten and explain.

    Sorry for the long post Bonnie...
    thier is more, much more. If you take the time to look at the Thriller portion in TII, really look...the dead is coming back to life...what is he really saying to us???

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  27. Bonnie said, "All three New Horizon Trusts are listed as Publishing. So what they are trying to pull I have no idea."

    Bonnie what else do you think of when it comes to publishing? Writings...Books...

    Three New Horizon Trusts-go back to your definitions of New Horizon and Trust(s)

    I-the original
    II-the revision of the original and or a addition
    III-the revision of the revision and or a addition(s)

    What happens when revisions are made?

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  28. Bonnie – I have some lingering questions concerning the loan. If you cover them in you blog in the past, please let me know I will search.

    1 – Why Michael took the 270 + million loan in the beginning? Is it because he wants to venture in some business or to take care of some expenses that wouldn’t be covered with his income?

    2 – Now we know and understand Fortress did not sell the loan to Barclay/HSBC, and the refinancing of the loan is managed by Signal Hill since 2007. It means the loan still owned by Fortress? If so, when is the loan must be paid? You remember we heard that the due date for the payment of the loan is approaching and everyone wonder whether the estate executers will pay it or default.

    3 – What do you mean when you said, “Just what did Branca refinance if the loan has been long retired?”

    I promise you one day I will get a good grip of this confusing loan transactions. Thanks for your help in the mean time.

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  29. Princess Glam said - "New Horizons Trust II : trustee is the wells Fargo Delaware Trust Company, and this trust pays off the recently negotiated UBS loan. This loan also has a Sony guaranty. The UBS loan replaces the Barclay loan.
    New Horizons Trust III : pays the recently negotiated HSBC Refinance agreement loan off. I'm not sure who the trustee is.The new loan replaces the Plainfield/HSBC loan. "

    >>> I showed you Signal Hill. It is a business with a web site and it lists the three trusts on there.

    The document from the "frienemies of the estate" is just that. A document. And where was that made available? (source)

    This could get interesting.

    http://www.signalhill.com/overview.aspx Signal Hill founded in 2002. They may have been advisors in refinancing. If you go to the link I supplied above, here is what is says for each Trust:

    New Horizon II - Senior Secured Note Offering. The undersigned acted as sole agent and advisor to Michael J. Jackson in connection
    with the refinancing of indebtedness secured by certain music publishing assets.

    On New Horizon III Phase a&b - First Lein Senior Loan. The undersigned acted as sole agent and advisor to Michael J. Jackson in connection
    with the refinancing of indebtedness secured by certain music publishing assets.

    b. - Second Lein Senior Loan. The undersigned acted as sole agent and advisor to Michael J. Jackson in connection
    with the refinancing of indebtedness secured by certain music publishing assets. ************

    I also noticed this happened in 2007, same year Michael was on the east coast. These people are located in Baltimore (they do have other offices, one in San Francisco)

    THEY ACTED AS MICHAEL'S ADVISORS in this renegotiation of the loans. Not Sony, Not Branca, Not Raymone, Not Tohme. It does not list who the loans were renegotiated with. Princess, does this match with what you have?

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  30. Princess - another question. Why did they not pay off this loan and instead refinance it?
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    Miss Shae said - ""They" are a collective that have been in existence since ancient times. We must remember MJ was well versed on world history. He was a blessed man led by faith."

    >>> I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "ancient" times, but the problems Michael had were closer to the present. The evil at work is ancient, I agree, but the people it is working through are what is currently running our governments, banks, legal and educations systems . . . and of course, the entertainment industry. And you're right, it is all over his lyrics. He was trying to protect the children.

    I think some of this with the Murray metaphor and AEG representing lust for money is a bit beyond where I am right now. I see AEG as a bridge.

    Let's take the story of Moses crossing the Red Sea since pretty much everyone is familiar with that. AEG is the sea bottom after God parts the sea. The protected one crosses . . . bad guys try to follow . . . God releases the sea as soon as the protected one is on the other side and the bad guys get swallowed up by the sea.

    Miss Shae, on the New Horizon Trusts, I think we just figured it out. Signal Hill was an advisor in refinancing, not the Trustee. However the other party is not listed which I find interesting.
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    Mimi in answer to your questions:

    1. I do not know. Funding for something and/or a mix of being stolen from is my only guess.

    2. I don't know who holds the notes. Signal Hill, as I explained above after further research on what they do, was the ADVISOR TO MICHAEL on the refinancing. It does not list who they refinanced with. Either Barclay's or Fortress. I thought it interesting that New Horizon Trust was split into threes.

    3. The trust is split into threes. There are three separate transactions. At least two of these could have been paid off instead of refinanced.

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  31. Bonnie the "system" in which MJ worked his financial problems out is not new it is the same as in ancient/old(the beginning of the banking system). Look into who actually started it and who has always had a hand in it and why.

    With help, as you see from your own research, Michael's financial situation was not as dire as we were led to believe. His problems, that was created out of mismanagement and greed, were resolved and he was able to move on to more important things. Again, What did Jesus teach about earthly riches?

    Yes, Michael and his humanitarian efforts for the children. Children are the future...its about the future of humanity Bonnie and who is molding that future.

    I understand your view of AEG as being the bridge, I did also in the beginning but thier presence is literal and symbolic. As I have look deeper into things, I realized I needed to go back to the "beginning" and the basic philosophies and principles and then move forward. Michael is a very very deep and intelligent man, more so than I ever thought. Its deep, very deep. I understand you may not be were I am at this point so I will back off. But he was correct when he said, he wanted to bring about an awakening and a sense of awareness. I am experiencing that and I have a new found respect for him.

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  32. @Miss Shae - That's okay with what you are saying, but this blog has to take a natural course. God doesn't just shove the answers in our faces, he takes us along a path of learning.

    There is more to uncover, you are right. But one stone at a time. ♥

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  33. Understood Bonnie nor am I trying to shove but share....

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  34. "The manipulation that has taken place is massive and it affects all of humanity."

    Thank you MissShae! It is liberating to hear more people are becoming aware of this! I've been sitting on that knowledge for years, feeling very alone and sometimes hopeless, without direction on how to do my part other than to make my children aware.

    I'm glad you brought the numerology info into it too. Yes, 12:21 has stuck in my head and I wonder if 12 will be added onto the end. That thought along with symbolism brings me to wondering about the talk about the end of the Mayan calender. (See disturbing Denver Int'l Airport murals!) True...or more scare tactics like Y2K? Fascinating stuff. I agree with most of what you said but do wonder about the AEG connection, not convinced yet.

    I have read some about the banking families, have a basic understanding and am aware that their agenda is handed from generation to generation - their children groomed to further their dominance over us. I suggest everyone should watch Aaron Russo's "America: Freedom to Fascism".

    Thank you Bonnie for further clarifying. "But one stone at a time." Ok, I will try to abide by that too but it is difficult at times!

    As Mimi said: ...I too hope one day to get a good grip of these confusing loan transactions.

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  35. @Miss Shae - I know and I worded that wrong. You're right about the numbers and aside from the 911 call there was a "12:21" visible on a clock on the TII stage. Someone had a screen shot of it somewhere. "Money changers" you are talking about. My husband and I had this conversation many times. There is more but for everyone else here, take it one stone at a time.

    Truthbtold - I KNOW where you are on this! I have a blog update especially for you! When I said this was about more than just the catalog, I wasn't kidding. You should be very familiar with this. I was holding off on it, but it is amazing how all this fits.

    Have an update on Mr. Anschutz too.

    Q. Why does God allow weeds to snare us on our path?

    A. They actually line the path for us, so we can better see it.

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  36. Bonnie said -
    "Truthbtold - I KNOW where you are on this! I have a blog update especially for you! When I said this was about more than just the catalog, I wasn't kidding. You should be very familiar with this. I was holding off on it, but it is amazing how all this fits."

    Oh boy...oh boy, can't wait!
    But, will...patiently, I hope. ;o)

    Yay! ♥

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  37. "Q. Why does God allow weeds to snare us on our path?

    A. They actually line the path for us, so we can better see it."

    B. Many are also edible and help us to grow...laterally speaking. ;o)

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  38. Bonnie said "Princess, does this match with what you have?" and "Why did they not pay off this loan and instead refinance it?"

    Firstly, yes it does match/align with what I have. So it looks like Sony had very little to do with the 2007 restructure, apart from their guaranty. Somebody(ies) seem keen to spread the idea that Sony helped Michael, to misdirect us!! It makes Sony look like good guys and Michael as dumb. Ha! I think we just called them out on that one!
    Secondly, as a guess I would say the reason to refinance both loans was to reduce interest rates and monthly payments. As executors and trustees that would be their duty, to benefit the estate. Both the loans mature 2011, so they will be paid off this year.

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  39. Truthbtold said - "Oh boy...oh boy, can't wait!
    But, will...patiently, I hope. ;o)

    Yay! ♥ "


    >>> ROFL!!! Liked your answers too!

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    Princessglam said - "Somebody(ies) seem keen to spread the idea that Sony helped Michael, to misdirect us!! It makes Sony look like good guys and Michael as dumb. Ha! I think we just called them out on that one! "

    >>> Who ever that was (three guesses) sure made the rounds to their press people. Especially Roger Friedman and their WSJ buddies. You know I have to hold my nose now when I walk by a FYE store?

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  40. "Michael became increasingly vocal in his music against the establishment, while at the same time recognizing the tools the establishment was aiming and using on our youth. Somewhere among the battles, Michael came to the realization of what he was going to have to do. It is in his lyrics."


    You nailed it Bonnie.

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  41. What World are you living in? its the world of Denial that MJ was who he was. Hezekiah walked blamelessly before the Lord that's why after his Death Sentence was decreed' God heard his cry and at 15years on his life..MJ was brought up Jehovah Witness and Jehovah Witness is a Cult' ...Frankly I'm not bothered with what he had and what he did not have' cause Naked you came ' naked u return to dust.The only thing that gets you to HEAVEN IS SALVATION..You state that Michael Jackson was persecuted as believer of Christ in the Music Industry. HE WAS JEHOVAH WITNESS NOT BORN AGAIN' there is a HUGE Difference between JEHOVAH WITNESS.7TH DAY ADVENTIST THEN BORN AGAIN' Yes he spoke against the illuminati but NEVER Stood up and Said JESUS CHRIST IS MY PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR' Jehovah witness has their Biblical scripture rewritten many a times by MARY BAKER EDDY'

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    1. Anonymous,

      Do YOU know who Michael is? What world are you living in? Who died and left you God? Do YOU decide who goes to Heaven and who does not?

      Michael left Jehovah's witness back in the 1980's. And going to a JW church does not guarantee you hell anynmore than being Baptist or Catholic guarantees you Heaven.

      Michael was a persecuted believer of Christ. YOU are proof of that. Do you think the Satanic owned media and music industry would let Michael witness on the air? No. That's why he had to do it in interviews and his songs. Every interview he ever did he talked about God, or Jesus, or praying or reading the Bible and how important prayer is.

      If I were to judge YOU on your own standards, Missy, I could also claim that you are not going to Heaven because I NEVER SAW YOU STAND UP and say Jesus Christ is your personal savior, either. So I guess you're going to hell to.

      God is not fenced in by a denomination or specific church. It is the individual heart that needs to talk to God. Salvation is gifted by Christ not a specific church.

      Jehovah's Witness was a church started in the U.S. by a Freemason. Their Bible is the "New World Translation" written specifically for that church. And if you would do some homework you would learn that several Jackson family members left that church including Michael.

      When God appoints you judge and jury then you can point your fingers at Michael. Chances are Michael will be in judgement of you.

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  42. First and Foremost I'am BORN AGAIN and Baptist in the Name of Yeshua' I took a Stand for Jesus' I surrender my Life unto him many many years ago'' I TOOK THAT STAND FOR JESUS CHRIST.. and I'am still going and going until the end of times'

    You never saw me stood up? Seriously? Now' are we from the Same Town?' The same Church' knew me? Nop that's Why you don't know if I'm a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN..or Not' If heaven could give anyone a pass for a few hours'to go to YAHWEH AND HIM SHOWING ONE WHO IS BORN AGAIN' OR NOT.. and you'd see me '''Born Again christian'''..

    BORN AGAIN/ CONDEMNATION' JUDGING :Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit... BIG' Mistake you are the Church not the Building. YES YOU'..Michael Jackson was Jehovah Witness through out his life' Perhaps you wanna call his Moma and she will Confirm it to you' They still go there' Like yes' its Narrow minded folk like you who deny the truth because you Idolize these Celebrities'. Yes Jehovah Witness have Towerwatch pamphlets'which fore show their Teachings etc' and yes they know God..and the scriptures'..The Bible records that one must be Born of The Spirit :Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit: John 3:5 ..Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    Acts 22:16 And now why tarry you? arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord. If you knew the True meaning of Hell' you'd be Praying for your sole not to end up in Hell'.As for Homework' I know all through and Through..As for hell no man is allowed to condemn another to hell':Luke 6:37: "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven. One thing I know about MJ' is that he had a Beautiful Heart' kind' gentle' humble and Loving.and I do applaud him for That.

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    1. I am going to answer this and then this is your last post.

      What you just accused me of, you did yourself to Michael Jackson. You condemned him to hell and you do not know him. And if you knew Christ, you would not be posting this.

      You did not grow up in the same town as Michael and you did not live with him 24/7, so you really know nothing about his standing up.

      Jesus did what he did out of love for the human race. He sacrificed himself and died for us out of love. The one who does the accusing day and night before God, of his prophets is the devil. He's good at it. He's been doing it since man has been on the earth. Just ask Job.

      So If you are going to point fingers at me for judging you, maybe you should look on the mirror and re-read your original post because that is exactly what you did to Michael.

      Oh . . .and Miss Katherine Jackson was interviewed back in the early 1990's saying Michael left the church. If you go to JW website, THEY tell you he left the church (in 1987). And then there is also this article - http://www.equip.org/articles/michael-jackson-leaves-jehovahs-witnesses/

      Latoya left the church in 1999 when she was able to escape the abuse of her then husband Jack Gordon.

      Jesus was about the truth . . . you apparently are only interested in running off at the mouth about things you know nothing about. This post was your last. Work on your own heart. God knows the truth about Michael.

      I was saved and Baptized in 1976 at Elkton Christian School, which was also the church I attended back then. You really need to read the rest of this blog if you care at all about how close to the end we are.

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