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Michael Jackson Justice: Conrad Murray Trial Day 12 - The Forest Through the Trees

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Friday, October 14, 2011

Conrad Murray Trial Day 12 - The Forest Through the Trees

Day 12 Conrad Murray Trial
David Geffen School of Medicine?




Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have despised the law of the LORD, and have not kept his commandments, and their lies caused them to err, after the which their fathers have walked: . . . Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes;  That pant after the dust of the earth on the head of the poor, and turn aside the way of the meek: and a man and his father will go in unto the same maid, to profane my holy name:  And they lay themselves down upon clothes laid to pledge by every altar, and they drink the wine of the condemned in the house of their god.”


"Those that don't know their history, are doomed to repeat it."



Let’s Talk a moment about the OTHER trial


Maliciously, wrongly prosecuted by Sneddon


0:52 - Lawyer Gary Dunlap – Another Sneddon Victim.

1:40 - Racist base goes beyond Sneddon – Politicians behind him. Where and how high up did this go?

5:09 – Life destroyer of innocent human beings – See Bible passages above.

This is a system that has made victims out of more than just Michael Jackson.  (Click the blue links for the articles)

- Randy Quaid’s Story  More on that here (it’s about land) 


Randy Quaid Exposes Illuminati and Hollywood Industry
Banks, Unions, ect…






Mel Gibson – Zionist Hypocrisy Exposed, Hollywood Style


That’s not to mention the recording artists that Michael has witnessed being victimized, the child actors he witnessed being victimized, the scientists that are vilified and discredited for DARING to attempt to get the truth to us.  There is much, much more names being unearthed.

Remember this past summer when I covered the horror of Corey Haim’s death?  - Click here.

Remember the episode of “The Two Corey’s” I posted where Corey Haim MONTHS before he overdoses, confronts Feldman about their publicist/rapists on that very T.V. show?  Click Here

Remember the dream I had about those two later in the summer? – Click Here

Perhaps my prayer was answered.

Pedophile’s Victims in Hollywood
Corey Feldman Calls for Help

I just spent the last hour crying over this.  I just found it tonight looking for a printed story about Corey Feldman and his “handlers”.

People were after Michael because he was trying to CHANGE THIS.  He was trying to SAVE these children.  THAT’S why he gravitated toward Hollywood’s child stars. 

It wasn’t just Hollywood’s children they were using either.

HE KNEW!

You think this trial is about MURRAY?  You should be PRAYING for that man!  He’s going to need it!

This isn’t about Propofol, this isn’t about insomnia, oxygen tanks, phone records or stripper girlfriends.  It’s not about a bowl of uneaten soup or over-indulged pop stars!

Murray is THE FALL GUY.  Just about every Jackson has said that.  A Fall guy is someone who is SET UP to take the fall for SOMEONE ELSE.

If you want to convict Murray before his lawyers even get a chance to begin calling THEIR witnesses then you might as well just hitch your wagon to Sneddon’s because it makes you NO BETTER THAN HIM!


Michael Jackson They Don’t Care About Us



I will tell you this . . . Michael TRIED.  This court case is probably his last ditch effort to get you to wake up.  It‘s not HIS fault if you don’t . . . and it’s not MURRAY’S fault if you don’t.

The same people that DID THIS to those people I mentioned above . . . the Hollywood Moguls, the power brokers, the bankers and the politicians are the SAME ONES still running the same operations and industries including entertainment, music, the medical and pharmaceutical industries, (where do you think our drug industry originated from?  That’s right! Nazi Germany!), the media and press and of course, the legal representation industry.  They are the suit version of profiting from both sides of a war.

Now ask yourself why they would want to get Murray . . . It’s NOT because they give a damned about Michael Jackson – GIVE ME A BREAK! (pardon my French, I am a BIT upset!)  They are covering the backsides of those people that tormented Michael to keep him silent JUST  LIKE QUAID, just like Gibson, Fine and Dunham!

Nothing is being done about this . . . NOTHING!  We still buy the same music from the same companies . . . We STILL purchase the SAME movies from the SAME damned movie studios that took part in the rape of those celebrities mentioned above AND MICHAEL JACKSON!

You want to take willing part in letting Murray take the fall for those scum so they can continue to victimize children, and artists and YOU, then go join Justice4MJ on HLN!


Michael 2005 trial picture




It has come to my attention that despite what we were supposed to learn about Michael’s trial and the way he was treated, condemned in both the press and the public before the defense even called the first witness, we have indeed learned nothing.

If Murray were Michael, the same bunch claiming to now care about and defend him would be putting him in jail, calling him a pedophile without the benefit of a fair trial.

I don’t know about you but If I were Michael (and I’m not, I checked) I would not be impressed.

Are we still letting the media color how we are supposed to view the evidence presented? 

We have witnessed over the last two weeks (going on three) contradicting testimony from paramedics that CLAIM to have reached the room at about the same time, but who saw a completely different scene.

We have evidence of a house with evidence sitting within it that was open and unsecured for four days between visits from the coroner’s investigator.

We have missing equipment that was witnessed to have been in the room but which now no one can find.

We have missing video tape that by all reasonable submissions was collected by the detectives but erased of its evidence.

We have wrong dates on bodies, we have photo shopped bodies, we have phone records with times changed by the prosecution right in front of the judge and we have admission of grave errors made during the collection of evidence.

And that’s just a start.

But this is not what we see presented in the media as just in the Michael Jackson trial in 2005.  The twisting of facts on the air, of testimony, the omission of controversial cross examination wins, and other testimony to convict a man who’s own attorneys have not even had a chance to present their case yet.

Considering the wrong date on the coroner’s photo of a body after two years to correct such a mistake, is it possible that perhaps there WAS NO MURDER?


***********  Start of Day 12 Testimony ************



Flanagan continues with the cross examination of Nader Kamangar.

Kamangar wants to say that the levels of Propofol and Lorazapam killed Michael Jackson, but he won’t answer questions in regard to those levels. 

Flanagan asks if it is because he’s not qualified to answer those questions, and Kamangar answers no, but he would like to defer those questions to a pharmacologist.  I’m going to try this tactic the next time someone asks me to pay a bill.  If every witness could defer their questions to someone else because they didn’t want to answer the question, we wouldn’t have a trial.  Is he a politician or a doctor?

Kamangar said he reviewed the records of Arnold Klein.  Flanagan pointed out that Arnold Klein had given Jackson 6500 mg of Demoral in between April and June of 2009.  Kamangar answers questions about Demoral and Midazolam.  He answers Demoral is a pain killer, a narcotic and Midazolam is a sedative used to sedate before a procedure.

Kamangar says he seldom uses Demoral because it has Neuro-excitatory qualities to it (can actually make someone hyper).  It can cause insomnia as a secondary symptom.

Kamangar said that he could not make a determination if that was what caused Jackson’s insomnia since that was not his patient.  (But he can make other assumptions).

Flanagan seems to like to like to nit-pik on specific medical terminology describing treatment, and this can get irritating for the jurors to listen to.  Unfortunately for the defense, I feel that Flanagan is not empathetic to the jurors.  However Kamangar is holding to his observation that even though HE saw that Jackson’s insomnia went back over a long period reviewing records, Murray could have/should have done a work up in order to determine this.  Kamangar reiterated that insomnia underlying causes should be looked into and not just medicated.  (we covered this yesterday, over-medicating is the goal of the pharmaceutical industry)

Flanagan asked if he ever had a patient that hasn’t been forthright in his history.  Kamangar answered “yes”.  Flanagan asked “how do you deal with that” and Kamangar answers that he would try to go through clinics and other doctors the patient has seen or been to.

Flanagan then asks “Don’t they have to sign a release for that?  What happens if they decline to do that?”  Kamangar answers he would then try to go through a spouse or ask about other prescriptions.  Flanagan asks “so you wouldn’t just prescribe something like Ambien without knowing his history?”  Kamangar said “probably not, not routinely, no.”



***This is a good line of questioning.  I have personally NEVER been to a doctor that has gone out of their way to interrogate me or my spouse about having a drug problem.  I have never heard of one who would do that unless it was physically obvious when the person staggered into the room. 

When you go to a doctor, they have you fill out a form asking you if you are allergic to anything, they ask you if you have this or that problem (run down and check the little boxes), then they want you to fill out your insurance information but that is IT!  In my experience it is NOT common that a doctor even gives two craps what doctor you’ve seen or what medications you’ve taken in the past other than what you filled out on that form.  You fill out the form, you go into the exam room, they ask what your problem is and they prescribe.  Period!  They leave it to the patient to tell them what medications they are currently on, NOT what they have taken in the past.

Flanagan asks if he could see from Klein’s records that Jackson was getting Demoral sometimes three times a week.  Kamangar says yes.  Flanagan asks if Murray should have been able to determine if Michael had been taking Demoral just by a physical examination.  Kamangar says no, but he should have asked people around the house if they noticed Michael ever acting differently . . . (excuse me . . . has YOUR doctor ever done that?) 

Flanagan makes a point that NOT INTERVIEWING other people around Michael, or interrogating hired help, spouses or people he worked with is NOT deviating from the accepted standard of care.

Flanagan is effective in pointing out the fact that this is NOT what doctors do.  That Murray would have had NO CONTROL over what Michael would or would not tell him, or the FACT that Murray said that Michael would not release his records.

So how is Murray expected to do a “workup” with no information?

What would happen if your doctor didn’t “believe” you when he asked you a question, and began calling your work colleagues, family, neighbors etc . . . wouldn’t this be a blatant breech of privacy and HIPPA laws?

Kamangar is not convincing in that Murray had deviated from the standard of care on this issue.  As a matter of fact his explanations are asinine.

Kamangar IS FAMILIAR with the article on the “Use of Propofol to induce sleep for people with insomnia”, which Flanagan refers to.

Kamangar explains that those patients had other underlying causes ruled out, like illnesses or psychological issues, (really?  What else besides illness and psychological issues causes insomnia?) and they had a highly monitored center, with infusion pump.  This is about the ONLY fact that Kamangar can hitch his wagon to. The rest was elaboration on a situation he admittedly was not there to witness.

If Kamangar had stuck to his “yes, but not without extra medical personnel and the necessary infusion and resuscitation equipment”, he would have been fine.  However, Kamangar was a bit overzealous in elaborating hypothetical situations that he could not get out of once Flanagan pressed him further on those scenarios.

Flanagan points out that the conclusion of the study showed that Propofol could be effective in treating insomnia.  Kamangar states, “but in a highly monitored situation”, to which I agree wholeheartedly with.  He should have stayed on third base with that instead of trying for the home run.

Flanagan had to repeatedly ask the judge to intervene and get Kamangar to just answer the question yes or no.

Kamangar has the nerve to suggest that you should only treat insomnia in a highly monitored setting.  (No doctor has ever gone to jail for prescribing sedatives or narcotics for treating insomnia). 

Then we get back to the issue of using Propofol for this (remember again it was determined earlier that it is NOT AGAINST ANY MEDICAL REGULATION) to use Propofol outside a hospital setting.  It is NOT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE.  Reason being, it is not an additive medication.

Kamangar wants to differentiate between “sedation” and “sleep”, LOL.  This is where Flanagan did a good job cornering him.  Kamangar had described to Flanagan that he used Propofol on patients who were on a ventilator and needed to be “comfortable”.

Kamangar explains that they would give a standard doses of 1 to 2 mg per kilo (slow push over a 10 second period at a time) to put a patient to sleep.  Not what he said Murray described in his police interview (which again Kamangar admits would not have killed him, using Murray’s stated 25mg dose).

****** This is what I don’t understand.  He says you do this when a patient has no other underlying causes of insomnia and is healthy, but his department uses this in an area of medicine that make chronically ill patients comfortable.  Don’t they have underlying conditions causing insomnia?  Like Illness?

If Murray gave the 25mg of Propofol and the autopsy has shown that Michael was otherwise HEALTHY, I think Flanagan is making a good point that Murray had no reason to believe that Michael had significant health defects.

Kamangar has been critical of the use of Lorazapam for insomnia, but it is listed in the PDR as being used for insomnia, as Flanagan point out.  Kamangar agrees that is it listed in the PDR as a drug you can use for insomnia but that it is not FDA approved for that and only in the oral form, not IV. 

I agree with this.  Now I will have to check Murray’s testimony again because I don’t know if he reported he gave tablet to Michael or put it in the IV.

Flanagan asks what the difference is between using the oral form and IV.  Kamangar explains that IV would allow more drug into the system. Kamangar said that monitoring should then be used. This is not needed if taken in tablet form because it takes longer to absorb into the body and is more gradual.

Flanagan asks Kamangar “Is the PDR accurate?  Would a doctor reasonably assume the PDR is accurate when looking to see if Lorazapam is okay to use for insomnia?  Kamangar stumbles on this answer.

Kamangar is now wanting to question Murray’s appropriateness in how he hydrated Michael.  He is over reaching in suggesting Murray was improperly hydrating Michael and begins rambling about having a bag present and how it’s infused.  This was never an issue, would not have contributed to any death and is not even a part of the stated evidence.  He stated previously that he was not there.  Even Walgren is raising his eyebrows over this one. 

Kamangar wants to judge Murray on his own statements that Michael was dehydrated but doesn’t want to use the same standard to determine whether Murray said he was using the IV to hydrate him.  (this witness is starting to tick me off.)  He wants to give an opinion of Murray’s care, but when questioned on how he comes to this conclusion, he wants to defer to a pharmacologist or he declines to answer on the basis of generalizing.  This is hypocritical and Flanagan is doing a good job revealing this.

Flanagan is getting irritated too and he begins presenting argumentative questions like “Do you remember what the question was?”  The judge sustains the objections to this raised by the prosecution.  This happens a couple of times where the judge has to ask Kamangar to focus his answers to the question asked.  (Lord, I want to slap this guy!  He reminds me of someone that used to irritate my mother).

Oh my Word.  Now Kamangar wants Murray to have determined the reason Michael is still sleeping after a time that Propofol would have worn off.  This had me laughing, but I threw a balled up piece of paper at the T.V. screen. 

Kamangar is trying to explain to Flanagan, unsuccessfully, that if you are using a sedative to help someone sleep, you should wake them up to see if they are still sleeping because of the sedative?  (Who’s paying this guy?  They need a refund!)

Flanagan asks if the patient was asleep for an hour, could you tell if it was natural sleep just by looking at him.

Kamangar said you can’t, you would have to see if he responded to external stimuli.  (So, yes, he would wake him up.)  (Sorry, but this guy is an idiot).

(Pulling my hair out) Next witness please . . . Flanagan has managed to walk this guy around the block but he should have left him on the corner.  Did Kamangar invent the circular argument?  Because he got a lot of practice on it today!

Kamangar wrote in his report that Murray gave Michael massive doses based on what he had not seen.  This is notes that he took off of Murray’s interview describing giving Michael the “push” and the drip, but disregarding the testimony Murray gave the 25mg amount. 

Kamangar admits he did not HEAR the testimony but was provided a transcript by Walgren and that he did discuss it with Walgren prior to testifying.  (Oh how convenient.)

Flanagan gets Kamangar to admit that he’s trying to elaborate on what really happened (which is why he can’t answer a simple question yes or no). 

Kamangar DID say on his report “Jackson was in cardio-pulmonary arrest”.

Flanagan asks “What is the first thing Murray should have done?”  Kamangar said without proper equipment he should have called for help.”  (This gets good too).

Flanagan then gets Kamangar to admit that Murray had that assessment time, to determine if he has a pulse and try to ventilate him.

Flanagan presses Kamangar “do you need to touch him?  Manipulate him to assess  him?”  Kamangar responds it should take less than seconds.

Flanagan re-asks a question on follow up.  He asks, “There are things you can do to assist breathing that doesn’t require apparatus, correct?” 

Kamangar says yes.  Then he “elaborates” that it should take seconds and you should call 911.  So he is not giving Murray that assessment time to get an airway clear.

Flanagan asks, “Is it reasonable as a doctor who is assisting the patient, to ask someone else to call 911?”

Kamangar replies that Murray should have called 911 and not get assistance for someone else to call 911 and that calling for security would not offer any substantive help.

**** In other words, the 2 minute accepted standard of care Kamangar already testified to giving Murray to assess the patient, clear the air way and begin giving him air, he is also taking away because he should have called 911 before he even had a chance to determine what was wrong.  Kamangar admonishes Murray for leaving expecting the chef to get security or leaving someone else to call 911.  (Remember this).

Flanagan  - ”Are you aware that there is a front gate that is locked?  That no one gets through that front gate unless security lets them in?”  (unbelievably this is objected and sustained.  Point is well made however).

Flanagan asks “Are you aware that the phone call to 911 took 2 minutes and 43 seconds?”  

Kamangar then admits that Paramedics took six minutes to get there.

Flanagan  “Is it your position that even if Michael self medicated with excessive amounts of Lorazapam, and the doctor used a bollus push of 25 mg of Propofol, that Murray is still responsible for Jackson’s death.”

Kamangar answers yes.


Walgren redirect

Walgren -  “If Flanagan fell to the floor in cardiac arrest, you wouldn’t wait twelve minutes to call 911 and then call his legal secretary to get help would you?”

Kamangar, after the objection and the question is rephrased. Says he would have called 911.

I agree with the fact that Murray should have called 911, but until the defense can present, we only know that Murray’s interview reveals that he expected that Security would assist while he tried to get Michael back breathing.

Walgren then asks Kamangar to verify that according to Murray, he knew that Murray was aware three weeks prior to Jackson’s death that Michael was seeing Klein.  (This does not address the HIPPA/Privacy laws and Michael’s refusal to release medical records).

Walgren wants Kamangar again to determine that Murray acted inappropriately without access to records.  Walgren tells Kamangar “it is the doctor’s responsibility to say “no”. 

Walgren again addresses checking records before and keeping records when treating.  If in fact no records were kept, this would be unwise and unethical.

*********  My opinion – we know other pieces of evidence have gone missing and other things have been messed with.  So until the defense can present their case, I cannot fault Murray for not getting records Michael refused permission to access.  I cannot at this point assume that Murray did not present records to Medical staff at UCLA until we here the defense’s side.



Flanagan recrosses

Kamangar is asked if Murray immediately performing CPR was wrong.  Kamangar says he should have called 911.  Kamangar is aware that Murray yelled for help.  He’s aware that Murray asked the chef to get security. 

Flanagan – “If you are of the opinion that security can come immediately, is it wrong to have the state of mind to have them call 911 while you try to revive the patient?” 

Kamangar – “Again, 911 should have been called”.

Flanagan finally asks if Kamangar is aware that the chef was asked to get security and she did not.  And if he is aware that Mr. Williams who was in charge of security was called well after Murray asked the chef to get security right outside the house.

Kamangar does not remember the part of the testimony where security was asked to call 911 as soon as they got to the top of the stairs.


Walgren redirects again

Walgren wants Kamangar to again state that Murray was negligent by not calling 911.


Flanagan recrosses again

He asks Kamangar about the hypothetical that Walgren presented.

Flanagan asked – “If Walgren was present and I fell to the floor in cardiac arrest, would you attend to the patient and ask Walgren to call 911?  Kamangar responds “yes”.

(Thank you!  Man!!!)



Walgren Calls Dr. Stephen Schaffer
Anesthesiologist


Walgren asks Schaffer about his professional background and area of expertise. 

He oversees manuscripts for standard of care for the largest medical journal in the country.

Walgren asks, “what is a manuscript”?

Schaffer describes that they are research papers and case reports that are used to accumulate knowledge in anesthesiology.

Schaffer is a good witness on Propofol.  He explains the various mixes used under the name “Diprivan” and how long the drug takes to go away or wash out from the body.  He explains that it does depend a little bit on how long the patient has been on it on how long it takes to leave the body.  Examples given are 1 hour as opposed to 10 hours on a drip.

He developed a module of the software with Dr. White that calculates infusion rates.  He wrote the part of the software that calculates the infusion rates with time and body weight, etc.  The software ran simulations on infusion of the Propofol.
 
We are getting toward the afternoon lunch break which Judge Pastor announces that because of witness scheduling, will be the end of their day, and that court will resume next Monday.

With that Walgren makes a statement that he wants a stipulation regarding the Propofol bag in evidence with the cut in it.  Walgren then states that finger prints found on the saline bag with cut in it has four fingerprints located near to top, black line of bag have been identified but no identification has been made available.

Flanagan and Chernoff agree and the Judge enters the stipulation.

Court Breaks until Monday Morning because of Witness Scheduling.


On Search I found:


I did a search on this PDF Document (for southern California, Schaefer and Schaffer) and no results - http://bmsr.usc.edu/Software/ADAPT/files/AdaptManual.pdf

After inserting Dr. Schaffer’s name I did find this document:

Under “Methods”

All simulations were run on a 200-MHz PC using the PK simulation and infusion software STANPUMP. The program STANPUMP is freely available from the author (Steven L. Shafer, MD, Department of Anesthesia, Stanford University, Stanford, CA).”  source

I had trouble finding credentials for some of the other doctors. Schaffer seems a likable witness, not given to elaborations on fact.


Line found Steinberg for me here because he’s not with UCLA:

http://cardiacadvantage.com/handler.cfm?event=practice,template&cpid=18507

Yes, I am looking for establishment collusion at this point because of Michael’s own testimony about a conspiracy which we covered some of the main components of  this past spring and summer.

As such we already know we have a corrupt justice system in California (Richard Fine, Michael Jackson/Sneddon, Alred, and those mentioned at the beginning of this blog), the doctors that were present at Michael’s 1993 strip search, etc.  I shouldn’t have to explain this.  I looked through the site that Line sent me and found this:

Steinberg:
Expert Reviewer/consultant for the Medical Board of the State of California

I also found this:

"Dr. Alon Steinberg specializes in adult cardiology. He is conversant in Spanish and Hebrew."

Hebrew? Source http://www.docspot.com/d/CA/oxnard/adult-cardiology.html


At the expense of sounding discriminatory, I'm going to take the risk of again pointing out the conspiracies Sung about, talked about by both Michael and 'OTHERS'.

Yes, I am not going to disregard the possible connection to the Zionist establishment.  Remember, the family said that Murray was the fall guy and that there was more to it.  That there was more people involved.  This didn’t start with “This is It” or AEG, this was going on before the 2005 trial and before AEG even existed as a company.

Michael spoke of a conspiracy in 2001, 2002 and again in 2003 on T.V.  He also mentioned it in 2005 to Jesse Jackson, So YES, I am turning over the Zionist stone in all this.   I posted these in comments yesterday and am reposting here for those who did not see it:

Dr.Nader Kamangar, Pulmonary critical care and sleep medicine physician at Olive UCLA:

Not on this list either: http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?id=453&action=detail&limit_department=15&limit_division=1090

THIS is flipping interesting!
http://dgsom.healthsciences.ucla.edu/dgsom/

David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA?

Is this like, the same David Geffen that co-owned DREAMWORKS with SPIELBERG? The one that STOLE Michael's IDEAS AND LOGO???

Submitted From Blake:

wasn't sure I wanted to have you post this but I did want to share some thoughts. Sometimes I worry about what is said because us pro-Michaels are not the only ones reading your blog. I've had all sorts of trouble getting this to you so maybe it's more important than I think?

Here is an interesting thought. Why would Murray run down stairs telling the cook to call 911 and asking for Prince to come up stairs? To witness his dad dying? Not a "normal" thing you'd think a doctor would do to a child. Adult help - that's what they want and protect the children from what they are too young to witness.

Or .....were “things” going down? (I took the rest out for privacy reasons)

I was listening to the Blood on the Dance Floor CD. Why the remixes? Five new songs and he didn't have enough material to fill the rest of the album?

 I don't think so.... Scream Louder – Flyte Time Remix (flight time?) with the background music being Thank You For Letting Me Be Myself Again?

Money – Fire Island Radio Edit. Like a devil volcano in the shape of a pyramid?

2 Bad – Refugee Camp Mix. Building the forces – his soldiers of LOVE. He was Bad. Look out for Bad II!

Stranger in Moscow -Tee's In-House. Do the 3-T's have something to do with this? I had a bit of trouble with this being so upbeat in this version but I think it has to mean that not all seclusion is bad?

This Time Around – D.M. Radio Mix – Hmmm, Doctor Murray??? (I know, a bit of a stretch here. Could he have known him back then when he made this CD?) From what I've gathered thanks to your reporting skills, this trial is definitely turning some tables over.

Earth Song – Hani's Club Experience. I was trying to find something to go along with this and ran across this - Hani Hanjour, hijacker and pilot of American Airlines Flight 77 in the September 11 attacks. That was interesting! The music for this reminds me of underwater sonar and somehow relates to that dolphin dance that he does.

You Are Not Alone – Classic Club Mix – Like all the classics – Timeless. God has been and will always be there! Rejoice!!!!! “Gotta stop livin alone.” Let Him in!

History – Tony Moran's HIStory Lesson. Did you know that there are two Tony Morans that are celebrities? Tony Moran the DJ and Tony Moran the actor. The actor played that horrible character with the mask and knife in the movie Halloween. Boy that movie gave me nightmares! The song here sounds like it starts out “Compulsion, You are the Kingdom”. What is your take on this?

Michael teaches that We are the world. “How many people have to cry the song of pain and grief across the land” Maybe until we all cry together. “All nations sing. Let's Harmonize all around the world.” I was just thinking about that this morning. How we are all individual parts of a song. Together we sing the song of Creation. I can't wait to really hear it. I think Michael already could.

*** I am interrupting here because that paragraph reminded me of this:

A Love Song Born of a Greatful Choir


Back to Blake

“….Sorry, I got off on a bit of a tangent here but Michael left us bread crumbs all over the place. All we can do is follow and see where it all leads.

Another question: That bleaching cream that Murray purchased. What is the name of it? Have you looked it up for description and side effects? (
I told her yes) I'm curious. Is it possible that what Murray ordered in such a large amounts was not what it appeared to be? I question because of the stain on the lids. Could it have been a stain to perhaps dye Michael black again at least for a while? There's been so much talk of the propofol but has anyone actually analyzed the cream?  (This is actually something that Micheline and I had discussed.  Micheline was not certain this would have been done).

That's it from me for tonight. You can decide whether to post this or not. God bless you and your family. Let's all sing in one amazing harmony!”



Submitted by Diane


Why the Autopsy Picture is fake


More Evidence



This is a big blog tonight and I’m sorry, but since there is no court tomorrow, I am going to take that time to do some dot connecting.

God bless you and PLEASE try to “read between the lines” as Latoya suggested and remember the past information, Michael’s own music and words, and his fight.

This is not about Murray . . . this is just what THE ESTABLISHMENT wants you to believe.  Just my opinion but Murray’s butt is not big enough to cover everything they have done.

51 comments:

  1. Bonnie,Amen. We must hear all evidence before passing judgement. Critical thinking is a must. If it doesn't make sense we must question,especially those in authority. They are usually the ones hiding something. Also,I've been meaning to ask...Does anybody know who it was Michael was supposed to have a meeting with on
    Sept.11? Was that person(s) there on that day? Did they survive?Peace.Linda

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    Still keeping up with the blog. Doing some investigating for you...


    Read more: http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Richelle_Cooper.html#ixzz1aikiv8LV
    Dr. Richelle Cooper: YES she attended the David Geffen School of Medicine & YES it IS the same David Geffen...

    Dr. Cooper graduated from University of California Los Angeles David Geffen School of Medicine. This school is ranked #10 out of 144 in primary care quality by US News & World Report and in research quality is ranked #11 out of 144.

    I read that they named the school after him.....see below

    UCLA School of Medicine or David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA is an accredited medical school located in Los Angeles, California, United States. The school was named in honor of media mogul David Geffen who donated $200 million in unrestricted funds to the school in 2001.
    *************************************************************************************************************

    This is getting very very interesting...........

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  3. Linda said - "Does anybody know who it was Michael was supposed to have a meeting with on
    Sept.11?"


    ......... Thank you Linda. No, it has never been stated who it was with or who scheduled the meeting. I think one day we will find out.

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  4. Hi Bonnie. Watched TMZ live 13th of October. They talked to a police source who claimed that without the police Interview that Dr.Murray did there wouldn't have been a trial? Go to TMZ and watch it, maybe it will get you some clues, you never know. Susanne

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  5. @Susanne -
    Thank you for that information. I will check that out. :o)

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  6. Susanne - I listened to the interview and they are WAY misstating the evidence.

    Murray never said he gave Michael 5 gallons of propofol.

    Murray NEVER SAID he put Michael under for 18 hours. And Murray never wheeled and dealed with doctors. There is also no such thing as an addiction to propofol. It is not an addictive agent.

    This is just short of Nancy Grace-style reporting.

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  7. @BONNIE - I agree with you that, through Michael's past history & own statements till June 2009, one may not completely exclude the Establishment's participation in Michael's demise (if he died, Hmm..). But in spite of various inconsistencies in the hearings since Sept. 29, 2011, I still do not make from C. Murray a holy martyr. It is to wonder why in all specialized doctors practicing in California or Nevada, Michael picked (through M. Amir ?) the most incompetent & careless doctor OR to wonder if C. Murray did not kill on purpose, alone or with help. Adversely Murray INNOCENT : then a large spectrum of research in the "Illuminati" field is open & the C. Murray's trial is only the prelude of a very long process. Honestly, I doubt that the Justice would bother to go to the sources. Justice for Michael is however no reason to convict Murray because he is at hand : so yes, Dr. Schaeffer next week may probably enlighten us more on this Propofol case & like you all, I am anxious (& scared in advance) what the Defense hearings will bring. It promises to be ugly when they attack Michael.

    Michael Flanagan had good questions to Dr. Kamangar. But like an old broken record (me), I again think that even if Murray yelled to Kai Chase to call help-security instead of 911, she HAD to do it on the spot so the security guys could rush upstairs to the main house & call themselves the 911 if she was afraid to do it : long minutes were wasted. Murray is the ONE responsible but any personnel around had to assist him if he called for help. Dr. Steinberg & Dr. Kamangar charge C. Murray only (trial's strategy ?) & I too believe that calling 911 was the very first thing to do by Murray but still, a blatant lack of assistance from Chase was observed by M. Flanaagan as well.

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  8. Hi Bonnie. I just wanted to know what you think about the theory/police info that if Murray had stayed away from the police Interview there would not have been a trial and Murray would have been a free man today. Harvey on TMZ claims that he was working as a laywer before he started TMZ. But I am aware that info frome sites like that should be taken with a grain of salt. Susanne

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  9. Good reporting Bonnie.

    Blake's submission:

    Very thought provoking! Thank you. Is it bread crumbs?

    "Stranger in Moscow -Tee's In-House. Do the 3-T's have something to do with this? "

    That reminds me, if memory serves me, of something Tito quite often said on Twitter. 'Pappa's in the house', or something like that, his Twitter entrance line. T (for Tito)'s in the house? Or was it 'meet me on the roof"?

    Oh, now I'm confused (it's been ages since I've spent time on twitter)...

    "How we are all individual parts of a song. Together we sing the song of Creation."

    That is a nice thought.

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  10. @Bonnie - About your Videos on the fake autopsy pic. I do hate talking about it but although there are obvious signs of photoshop make-up, I just wondered : should the pic actually be real, an assumption only, what looks like wax on Michael's neck & belly could also be real wax or assimilate on specific parts of his body after the Coroner's methodical work inside them (thorax, trachea near neck, belly, etc..no belly button). As the pic was intended to be shown at Court & to the world (an absolute shame) the Coroner could not show the body parts after such were intensively worked for autopsy purposes. I can't believe either that Dr. Rodgers could work that fast on a body one day after death & make a pic with same date of 06.26.2009 as he rectified it was that date.

    I feel ashamed to raise macabre questions & maybe you or other readers here did raise that possibility before. But as the autopsy pic already created a world controversy with renewed theories, what do you think ?

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  11. Bonnie – today on Good Morning America, I have heard that the defense will bring 17 witnesses that will refute the prosecutors and expert witnesses claim that Dr Murray is responsible for Michael’s death, instead Michael himself caused his own death.

    This will be very interesting testimony what the witnesses are going to say and demonstrate how Michael gave the dose that killed him within 2 minutes of the time when Dr. Murray went to the bathroom. I can’t wait to hear the defense side. I bet it will be very fascinating.

    What I don’t understand is why is that the prosecutors and the defense solely concentrating on Michael and Dr. Murray for Michael’s death while there are unidentified finger prints found during the investigation? What is the reason they did not expand their suspects to possibly others than only those two suspects? Okay, this doesn’t excuse Dr. Murray giving Propofol as he said he gave to Michael in his home without proper setting.

    So far the prosecutors expert witnesses gave convincing testimony saying there is no chance Michael killed himself, which I believe. I guess we have to wait the defense witnesses to give us and the Jury convincing testimony that Michael is responsible not Murray.

    Mimi

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  12. Bonnie - here is what photographer David Zimmerman said about Michael on Dr. Drew's show the ohter day.

    "Michael Jackson was an incredible artist, probably the most talented and dynamic entertainer in history. You know it`s tough enough for an average entertainer to maintain a successful career, but then, imagine maintaining the enormous magnitude of Michael`s.

    Having to continue to create perfection but having the obstacle of the media looking for ways out of jealousy or whatever with criticalness in order to fill up blank pages and newspapers. To suppress rather than to validate his talents or find ways to inspire it. Suppression, unfortunately, in this country, usually leads to drugs.

    Sure, Dr. Murray is guilty of negligence and should be punished and take responsibility for his negligence. Dr. Murray just happened to be there at the end, the fall guy. But Michael started to die years ago, from trying to handle the suppression from his media attackers. They were constantly looking for ways to bring him down."

    Mimi

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  13. Bonnie said, “Murray is THE FALL GUY. Just about every Jackson has said that. A Fall guy is someone who is SET UP to take the fall for SOMEONE ELSE.” I have a question: when we said “set up to take the fall for someone else,” does that mean the fall guys do not know or aware of the “set up?” If so then, even Dr. Murray take the stand, he will not reveal who are those behind him since he doesn’t know who set him up. Therefore, this trial will end only concentrating on Dr. Murray or Michael being responsible for the death of Michael.
    Mimi

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  14. Line said - "But in spite of various inconsistencies in the hearings since Sept. 29, 2011, I still do not make from C. Murray a holy martyr. "

    ...... Oh, I never said Murray was a holy martyr. I just don't think he's guilty of murder. There is SOOOOOO much more to this story Line, I am back to being sick to my stomach. If you listen to Randy Quaid in that video above, that is exactly the same stuff they were doing to Michael.

    I did some research and I will be back with more on this.

    You said - "I again think that even if Murray yelled to Kai Chase to call help-security instead of 911, she HAD to do it on the spot so the security guys could rush upstairs to the main house & call themselves the 911 if she was afraid to do it : long minutes were wasted."

    ........ Please don't think that I am disregarding your observations, I am not. I'm just onto some information that changes things.

    This trial has a different purpose than convicting Murray. Remember . . . I said I'll be back, LOL!
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    Susanne said - "I just wanted to know what you think about the theory/police info that if Murray had stayed away from the police Interview there would not have been a trial and Murray would have been a free man today."

    ...... I think depending on how you look at it, he is right. Murray volunteered to do this but with Lawyers present . . . why? Why put your neck out like that unless . . . YOU ARE INNOCENT.
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    Truthbtold said - "Very thought provoking! Thank you. Is it bread crumbs?"

    ......... Yeah, bread crumbs from a loaf of bread I've been looking for for a long time.
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    Line said - "I just wondered : should the pic actually be real, an assumption only, what looks like wax on Michael's neck & belly could also be real wax or assimilate on specific parts of his body after the Coroner's methodical work inside them (thorax, trachea near neck, belly, etc..no belly button). "

    ...... Well, no they don't do that. They take a picture of the body as soon as it comes in for I.D. purposes, not after they are cut up, and even if they did try to cover up evidence of work, you would see SOMETHING, some raised flesh or something

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  15. Hi Bonnie. When you are under with propofol you don't breath on your own or in other words you stop breathing, right? I thought that when you are put under you are in a coma state. But in court they keep talking about sleeping with help of propofol. Flanagan was talking about when the propofol leaves your body you can possibly continuing to sleep if you are tired. I'm like what? If you wake up from a coma you don't continue to sleep right or wrong? When experts talks about putting someone to sleep it's misleading information I think. If you have been put under in a hospital you know when you wake up it feels like you have been unconscious it doesn't feel like waking up from sleep. MJ had a lot of money and was an Intelligent person. I wonder why he didn't go to a sleep specialist? He could have gotten the best one out there to solve his problems. Susanne

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  16. Hi Bonnie. "Some raised flesh or something". Bonnie is that you talking/typing? Who are you? Just kidding!! ha ha ha. It feels kind of weird when we/you are discussing those things. But we have no choice, it's a part of the whole nightmare saga. Susanne

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  17. Hey Bonnie. Before I asked you what LOL stands for I thought LOL was short for "Lord oh Lord". When I read "Some raised flesh or something", my first immediate reaction was just that, LOL. Susanne

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  18. Dear Bonnie,

    This trial is driving me nuttts.

    Love you

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  19. Susanne said - "I thought that when you are put under you are in a coma state. But in court they keep talking about sleeping with help of propofol."

    ............. There is deep sedation for surgery and there is light sedation, as for sleep. Depends on how much they are giving you.

    You said - "MJ had a lot of money and was an Intelligent person. I wonder why he didn't go to a sleep specialist?"

    ......... Michael had a lot of money and was an intelligent person . . . you can pretty much answer the questions from that one statement alone.

    You said - "Some raised flesh or something". Bonnie is that you talking/typing? Who are you? Just kidding!! ha ha ha."

    ....... You know what I mean. I don't know how to describe it. We can't even see a belly button on that picture. No coroner is going to slice open a body, take out the organs, then take a picture for the family and ask "Is this him?" The condition in which the coroner receives the body is the reason for those pictures. This is not a real picture so the point of discussing this is moot.
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    Nita said "This trial is driving me nuttts."

    ......... I can tell . . . you typed "nuts" with three T's :o) Was that by accident or was that done all in his name?

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  20. I can't help it. I've got to say it. The body portion in Michael's autopsy pic reminds me of a tabloid picture I once saw of what they said was a dead alien! That would be really hilarious if it turned out Michael was somehow behind all this. It would be just like him to be poking fun, playing them the same. Tabloid pictures - the things people buy into! I never bought them but they have them in your face while you are waiting in line at the grocery store. (How convenient.)

    That's really interesting about Tito's Papa's in the house/Tee's In house. Maybe??? His story's in the mix.....Michael, are you writing another book somewhere? I'd love to read it! I'd love to get the chance to meet you, even just briefly. I'd have sooooo many questions but I'd be so tongue-tied, I'd just have to say, "Thank you and that I love you." and give you a big, big hug AND a BIG KISS!

    I have a two year old grand-daughter that, on my last visit, kneeled in my lap, grabbed my cheeks and loudly announced, "BIG KISS!" as she then proceeded to give me a loud, wet, smacky kiss. This was repeated several times as we all laughed and enjoyed. BIG KISSES FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!!!

    Bonnie, after I post this I'll click on the utube link for the song 'He Reigns' and do something else for awhile. One of these days I'll be able to afford unlimited HIGH SPEED internet instead of dial up but at $15.00 per month I can be patient!

    It's all for the love!

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  21. Hi Bonnie. OH MY GOD! I AM IN SHOCK! You just have to check out the video "Lisa Marie and Michael Jackson/Michael's voice" on YouTube!!!!! The video has nothing to do with Lisa so don't mind about her. Listen to Michael's voice!! If you thought his voice was masculine in "This is it", then wait until your hear his voice on this video! He is almost like a chameleon. He has so many different voices. MJ we love you and we will miss you forever!!! ♥ Susanne

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  22. Hi Bonnie. I know what you mean. But sometimes I am trying to joke about things otherwise I will go insane. Susanne

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  24. @Blake -
    So Google let you post now? I wonder what's going on with that? On Michael and your obvious glee over these discoveries, don't forget . . . There was a message he was trying to get out and there were people that wouldn't let him.

    Sometimes dreams happen in opposites. Since God is the one that gives the dreams, there must have been a reason I had to learn that.

    More later on that. Good info on the Benoquin. Liquid Sun?
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    Susanne said - "You just have to check out the video "Lisa Marie and Michael Jackson/Michael's voice" on YouTube!!!!! The video has nothing to do with Lisa so don't mind about her. Listen to Michael's voice!! "

    ....... Do you have a link? There are lots of videos about those two. Post the link here if you still have it. Thanks! (I know he can go deep. Heard his vocal exorcises :o)

    I know you were joking. I forgot to type the smiley when I posted that. Too much in a rush. :o) There are some serious issues today that had me rather focused so I glazed right over your humor. Sorry ♥

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  25. @ Mimi -

    I worked these answers a little out of order, Sorry Mimi. I didn't forget you. You said:

    "I have heard that the defense will bring 17 witnesses that will refute the prosecutors and expert witnesses claim that Dr Murray is responsible for Michael’s death, instead Michael himself "

    ........ I would disregard what any of these talk shows say that this side or that side is GOING to do, because they don't know anything. They are talk show people. They are not part of the defense OR the prosecution team. They are experts at running their mouth and that's about it. Try not to let what they say color what is REALLY going to happen.

    You said - "I don’t understand is why is that the prosecutors and the defense solely concentrating on Michael and Dr. Murray for Michael’s death while there are unidentified finger prints found during the investigation?"

    ......... We don't know that they are ignoring those fingerprints. They said they identified them but they are unnamed at this time. Something tells me they know who it is. We wait and see what the defense brings up.

    You talked about photographer David Zimmerman. Look at his last name. Look at who he is affiliated with. I'm not surprised he wants to paint Michael as a hapless drug addict. I have more about him later. He's protecting his circle of friends. Disregard what he says. All he knows how to do is abuse people.
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    Mimi said - "does that mean the fall guys do not know or aware of the “set up?”"

    .......... Not necessarily. Murray knows he's being set up, obviously - if he knows he's innocent he knows he is taking the fall for someone. He may not have been aware of it at the time, but . . . maybe he volunteered? Maybe he thinks he'll get off, but then, if there was no murder, maybe he volunteered for different reasons?

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  26. Bonnie, I know this is serious stuff here. My point about the deceased alien was that tabloids have been taking the ridiculous and playing it off as fact for a long, long time and people believe it! If Michael was somehow behind this picture, I'm sure it's just to point out that society has been dumbed out. We are sheep being lead to slaughter and he wants us all to wake up because "time has made promises"!

    I just finished watching the video submitted by Diane. You've covered a lot of that. I'm amazed at what can be done with computers now. That last bit was the security guards was really interesting.....

    I liked you song, 'He Reigns'. HE does!

    As to me being able to post now, I leave my computer on all the time, just not on line. I've had some problems with my printer and restarted my computer to see if that would help. Perhaps that's what fixed my problem?

    Sometimes dreams happen in opposites? I can't wait for you to expound on that one!

    Once again, thanks for another great blog post!

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  27. Hey Bonnie. If the autopsy photo are a fake maybe Dr.Rogers are too. It is something about him that don't adds up. At first he looks like a quite old man. If you look closer he looks pretty young. And it is something about his behavior. He is not for real. I think he is fake. He is acting. Now you will think I am nuts. Susanne

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  28. Dear Bonnie,

    I so tired I didn't feel like correcting nuts. Wow this is a long blog......well let me get back to reading.

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  29. Line - this article from the UK Daily Mail (yes, I know it's a tabloid) describes the photo as being taken BEFORE the autopsy, so the body would have been fully intact with no reason to "wax" over any areas. This is the only source I could find that actually mentioned it was before the procedure. As I said to Jenny in a private message, I'm sure the media prefers the absence of a belly button, if only to perpetuate the myth that Michael was a bizarre alien from another world! He is and always will be too beautiful for this world.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047963/Michael-Jackson-trial-Autopsy-photo-shown-Paris-sobs-Conrad-Murray.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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  30. Blake said - "My point about the deceased alien was that tabloids have been taking the ridiculous and playing it off as fact for a long, long time and people believe it!"

    ......... Maybe that in itself was a sign of something. That was something that I for a second took personally, but I can't tell you here why. I was laughing.

    I love, "He Reigns" too. I love "One Tear" That song reminds me of Michael so much. I almost wrecked the car the first time I heard it after June 25th I was crying so bad. "One tear in the driving rain, One voice in a sea of pain, could the maker of the stars, hear the sound of my breaking heart..." I love that song.

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  31. Susanne said - "If the autopsy photo are a fake maybe Dr.Rogers are too."

    ........ Why do you think Rogers is fake? He did say that the date was wrong, so he knew about that, he didn't try to cover it up or anything. Out of all the prosecution witnesses, I think Rogers is the most likeable. He didn't seem like he was trying to go out of his way to condemn Murray like some of the others. He mostly stuck to what he witnessed/investigated. Even when Flanagan was being a little ridiculous he didn't get flustered and even made a little face of impatience like "come on, guy, I just told you".

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  32. Nita said - "I so tired I didn't feel like correcting nuts. Wow this is a long blog......well let me get back to reading. "

    ....... LOL, I'm tired too. You should have let me bask in the possibility that your 3T's were some kind of sign. Geeze, I was all worked up! Sorry about the blog length. Some of that information came in as I was searching for information about people.
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    Spotlight said - "As I said to Jenny in a private message, I'm sure the media prefers the absence of a belly button, if only to perpetuate the myth that Michael was a bizarre alien from another world!"

    ......... Now wait a minute . . . I don't have a belly button and I'm not an alien. I also don't think I'm too good for this world. But I agree Michael is and I'm thankful HE didn't feel that way. :o)

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  33. Hi Bonnie. Dr.Rogers took the autopsy photo, right? The autopsy photo is a fake, right? I mean if that is the case then he must be fake too. I don't mean it in a bad way about him as a person. Susanne

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  34. SPOTLIGHT said : "He is and always will be too beautiful for this world."

    Oh yes, Spotlight ! Many thanks for your comment & link because photoshop art, pathology & me, well, I still have a lot to learn..:o)

    BONNIE said : "I just found it tonight looking a printed story about Corey Feldman and his “handlers”.

    Watching this Video is like receiving a fist blowing your face. How come these monsters may prosperate undisturbed without fearing the law ? The highest levels of the nation should react but..we know ! These evils really infest our world & worse the children. As to the shadowy entities possibly behind the Murray case, I also fear the difficulty to frame them because of the ongoing corruption. On Conrad Murray, I just saw this TMZ news :

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/13/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-conviction-possible-house-arrest-no-prison-jail-time-overcrowding/#.Tplzf5vKvpA

    What a Blog again !

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  35. I think this is the link to the video Susanne was talking about - at :52 Michael's lower speaking voice...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNqdVCFdob4

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  36. Tom Mesereau talking about the law system :

    at 3:40 - "Law representation of guilty persons"
    at 6:11 - "Criminality is big business" : (more money spent to build prisons than the entire education budget). Same also outside the USA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=mem_RbbxmzA

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  37. Of course Murray could have called 911 and made an assessment at the same time. The man is a doctor and should be calm in such an emergencey.
    Im not sure if you have ever been in such a situation, Bonnie? I have - ive seen someone arrest right in front of my eyes. I quickly made an assessment and called 911 and then had them on speaker phone as i put the man in the recovery position and then, a short while later, started CPR when he stopped breathing and i could not find a pulse.
    The whole scenario of Murray not using the ambo-bag he had and then running around the house asking for help is ludicrious.
    So.. the front gates were locked? So what? I think security might realise there was a problem once an ambulance arrived at the gates. All they would have to say is that Dr Murray had called them. It would have saved far more time doing it that way, then the way Murray did it. A few minutes may have been lost at the front gate - but not the 20 minutes Murray wasted.
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    Oh.. and Murray giving chest compressions when Michael still had a heartbeat??? How can he explain that??

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  38. I dont know if you have noticed, but Karen Faye has been getting upset on twitter because she has been asked why the autopsy photo doesnt show the emaciated body which she described.

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  39. Swiss people also massively protest today in most cities against their banks & the powerful elite. Unusual in this country, proof that the cup is full worldwide. In today's local news, it was feared that riots may take place :o(

    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_news/Indignados_revolt_spreads_to_Switzerland.html?cid=31344612&rss=true

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  40. Susanne - "Dr.Rogers took the autopsy photo, right? The autopsy photo is a fake, right?"

    ......... Rogers "verified" that was the "Mr. Jackson" body. Is he lying? Could be!
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    Line said - "Watching this Video is like receiving a fist blowing your face. How come these monsters may prosperate undisturbed without fearing the law ?"

    ......... I know, but I was thankful. I thanked God he was saying this, and you're right. These people have gotten away with it for so long because we have just as many pedophiles in our government and the establishment behind our governments, as we do in Hollywood. They are filthy, disgusting , evil human beings.

    I did see the article on Murray . . . meant to inflame. They are not the law, they are the fictional news.
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    @Anonymous - Thank you for that link. Will listen. :o) He sounded a bit breathless there.
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    Anonymous said - "The whole scenario of Murray not using the ambo-bag he had and then running around the house asking for help is ludicrious.
    So.. the front gates were locked? So what? "

    .... Apparently you aren't familiar with the problems Michael Jackson had with people trying to climb walls, sneak into his property, fake credentials to invade his privacy. Do you think if people were trying to kill him (for REAL) that they haven't tried various ways to get to him? Yes! Unless someone INSIDE THE HOUSE told security to let an ambulance in IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. Security works for MICHAEL not the City of Los Angelas!

    As for the rest of your argument, we already know that MIZZ RICHELLE is one of DAVID GEFFEN'S doctors and we KNOW he was NOT A FRIEND OF MICHAEL. As for the rest of this, I'm not going to convict Murray when NO ONE CAN PROVE WE EVEN HAVE A BODY. So take your attitude somewhere else!

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  41. @Anonymous - Ran out of room... LIke I said in the blog, Murray's side has not had a chance to present their case. If you are not even going to let him do that, then you are no better than Sneddon and his friends.

    Yes, I have been in an ER situation before! My son! And I had to take control because I was alone! It wasn't cardiac arrest it was an attacking dog. I didn't run away and call 911, I GOT THE DOG OFF OF HIM!

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  42. Karla said - "I dont know if you have noticed, but Karen Faye has been getting upset on twitter because she has been asked why the autopsy photo doesnt show the emaciated body which she described. "


    ........... No, I haven't been paying much attention to Karen, LOL! She's on her own. Maybe she can explain where the body is, because the one in the photo is not Mike.

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  43. Bonnie,Hi. About Michael's voice...he actually let the whole world hear his very deep voice.It was at the 1993 Super Bowl. Before "Heal The World" he spoke to everybody.Deepest I've ever heard.People have selective memory when it comes to him.Peace.Linda

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  44. BONNIE said : "MIZZ RICHELLE is one of DAVID GEFFEN'S doctors and we KNOW he was NOT A FRIEND OF MICHAEL"

    Correct, it is good to be investigative but can we automatically connect the dots with the i concerning Rachelle Cooper or suspect most Prosecution witnesses ? Murray deserves a fair trial like anyone but I still am suspicious until the Justice gives its verdict. Many controversies & emotions emerge with the trial now : it was to expect & on this side, I am no heroine :o( But as usual, we owe you a lot as all possibilities will have been explored.

    Concerning your son, the dog & you, you had the RIGHT reaction but if, as it was reported, Murray saw Michael not responsive & had no adequate monitoring equipment nor help, IMO he had the BAD reaction. What a hell, this trial.

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  45. Dear Bonnie,

    The music industry and the mafia. Tommy Motola, Motown, Quincy Jones, Clive Davis. All these people are sony bigtime

    TLC female group complained about Sony and left eye lopez death caught pn camera its on youtube.

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  46. Linda said - "Before "Heal The World" he spoke to everybody.Deepest I've ever heard.People have selective memory when it comes to him.Peace.Linda "

    ....... I remember that. And like I said before, Christ Tucker has a higher pitched voice than Michael, he's just LOUD so everyone overlooks that, LOL!
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    Line said - "t is good to be investigative but can we automatically connect the dots with the i concerning Rachelle Cooper or suspect most Prosecution witnesses ? "

    ......... Well, I suspect EVERYBODY until we hear both sides. Is that fair? Look at all the witnesses that testified AGAINST Michael during the 2005 trial. Out of all of those, can we say for a fact that ALL of them lied? The Jury found Michael innocent on every single count against him. This means the jury found none of Sneddon's witnesses believable.

    SOME of the prosecution's witnesses, like Debbie Rowe, actually ended up benefiting Michael. The ONLY honest witnesses I have seen in this Murray trial so far (and this is only my opinion so far), is Ortega, POSSIBLY paramedic Blount, Possibly that Rogers guy, NONE of those two women doctors, OMG! LOL!

    Of the evidence submitted so far, the most important to charge ANYONE with murder/manslaughter is a body. And I'm sorry that autopsy photo is just not cutting it. So I have to assume that this trial has other goals.

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  47. Errrr! Sorry Line, forgot your last paragraph.

    On my son. I don't think Murray had a bad reaction as much as he erroneously assumed that anyone else in that house at the time (ie Kai Chaise) had any interest in in assisting or helping Michael. I don't think it's too much to assume that if someone frantically comes down the stairs to call to someone to "get help" and "get security", that someone would get a 12 year old boy instead and go back to lunch. Murray ran back upstairs to assist Michael and assumed help would be coming so he could do DOCTOR THINGS and try to revive him.

    But . . . we don't have a body. All we have is a picture of parts of one shopped together.

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  48. Nita said - "The music industry and the mafia. Tommy Motola, Motown, Quincy Jones, Clive Davis. All these people are sony bigtime"

    Yep! Clive Davis (Jewish), Tommy Mottola (Jewish). Quincy Jone's real name is Leigh Warren (or it's an alias)

    Quincy Jones another sell out. He attended the World Economic forum in 2004. Guess they invited him into the One World Order Club. That won't last.

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  49. BONNIE said : " I suspect EVERYBODY until we hear both sides. Is that fair ?"

    Yes !

    On Kai Chase : probably the Defense will revert in time. You said the "goals of the trial" : the faith in human Justice would be upgraded if the trial finally led to the roots of the criminals behind the fall guy.

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  50. Line said - "the faith in human Justice would be upgraded if the trial finally led to the roots of the criminals behind the fall guy."

    ...... That would be a big plus!

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  51. After watching the Randy Quaid vid, I get it. whoa!PURE Evil / WW2 had to impact the 'survivors' in a negative way. This, is what it is. In the LaToya video on her 'book', the 'narrator' says that Jack Gordon was one of the 'higher ups'. Higher ups in what organization, company, or group?

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