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Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Michael Jackson, NOI Referrals and the Masonic Order


November 1, 2011
Day 22 Conrad Murray Michael Jackson Trial
Not Every Chess Player a Master


Acts 23:7
And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided.



No heartwarming videos tonight, sorry.  In trying to recap the discrepancies in the trial I ran into information I didn't expect to find.  I have also been hit with a family crisis that has sort of taken care of itself but it still leaves me very worried.

Below you will see I start out with the scant bit of testimony we had today as the defense closed it's case . . . however I have just opened mine and the can of worms that came with it.
You will see below the testimony for today I began a recap of the last five weeks of testimony by highlighting some of the discrepancies and irregularities.  It was during THOSE irregularities that I began checking into the background of some other people and found what I found.  It will take a bit more digging.

I also have a blog I have been working on that will probably tie into this.  I am very angry.  I feel as if I have been duped by some people and I can't tell you how much that hurts, especially when I have defended them.  Unfortunately I have been down that road with this blog before and I will probably recover a bit more gracefully then I have in the past.  But it doesn't change the fact that I am highly PISSED.

Here we go . . . 




Flanagan Redirect on White

- Flanagan begins the day asking about the models accuracy.

- Dr. White in explaining how the models are put together working backwards (as I do in my research) Dr. White is using a gesture with his hands very familiar with Michael . . . the “praying hands” gesture.  Hopefully today Dr. White can stop trying to answer questions like Dr. Kamangar did when he was being deposed on the stand.

- Dr white explains the difference in standard of care with standard practice using the example of the CO2 measurement –

- They go over another model and White explains and agrees with previous testimony of Dr. Cooper that he’s not sure an individual would go to sleep on 25mg of Propofol.

- Flanagan asks about the model the Onellis made concerning the administrating of lanocaine right before Michael’s passing.  White declairs that he did not do the modeling but would guess that the chart was close to the scenario matching the autopsy readings.  Before he can finish his answer Walgren objects based on speculation, judge tells jury to strike everything he said from “I didn’t create the models”.


Walgren declines recross.


Judge asks to see council.  Then mid-morning break early, judge says they need to discuss other matters.


Flanagan calls Onellis to the stand

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Whoops – Onellis isn’t there yet, so

Walgren calls Shafer back
Direct examination on rebuttal

- Shafer tells jury that once drugs enter the system, the get distributed through the blood, stomach, brain, other organs.

- Walgren asks him to explain one of his models where infusion was still going when Michael died.  It did not demonstrate a specific time of death.

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Comparison Chart of excreted, unchanged
Propfol in urine for patients going through
Major surgery and what was found in
Michael Jackson



- Shafer speech on mortality


Flanagan cross with Shafer

- Asks Shafer if his report reflected the amount of Lidocaine found in Michael Jackson.  5ml between 10 and 12 . White says no. Report suggests mixing a 10ml of Lidocaine with 100ml of Propofol.   Shafer says he was just showing a ratio, not what the concentration was.

- Flanagan quotes Dawidowicz and gets Shafer to admit that 25mg in a 64.5 kg patient is a sub-anesthetic dose.


Walgren redirect

- Shafer explains, when asked, that larger doses of Propofol increases the accuracy of the measured unchanged Propofol in the urine


Flanagan rests the case for the defense

(now we have to deal with closing arguments)


Refining a stipulation – Exhibit 52 accurately reflects the phone numbers and the names with each phone number.

Jury will be excused until 9am on Thursday, November 3, 2011 so that the attorneys can prepare their closing arguments.

List of evidence submitted but not reconciled or clarified:

- California Seal

- Michael Jackson’s real name

- Picture of Gurney with Michael on it – not authentic

- No proof all the Propofol ordered was for Michael

- Recording made on May 10th (a Sunday) was Murray’s day off and Propofol does not cause slurred speech.  However, Demoral does. Klein and his records are exposed but he’s not on trial (he should be).

- There are two bedrooms – Michael’s Master bedroom and the room he was being “treated” in.

- soup

- Conflicting information from paramedics on what they saw in the room.

- Gongaware’s statement that he believed Michael’s problems originated from something OTHER than medications.

- Kenny Ortega’s statement that on the 23rd, “he came back [to rehearsals] a different Michael.

- Chernoff opening arguments – “Michael had big plans”, “you’re going to hear who Conrad Murray REALLY is”.

- Chernoff opening arguments: describes Michael’s “compartmentalized” relationships like “spokes in wheel”, where information about Michael came from Michael but didn’t cross lines.  (by design, for some time).

- Chernoff questioning Ortega about Michael “controls the show” and “he’s the boss”.

- Nobody got through to Michael except through Michael Amir Williams (contradicts the control Tohme as said to have had).

- Alvarez testifies to setting gifts in the house.  Murray testifies to security not being allowed in the house.  This also contradicts Muhammed’s own testimony that he had to double check that it was okay to go into the house.

- Murray testifies to calling Williams asking “where are you? Get here right away”. Indicates that Murray believed Amir was at work not at home.  Mohammed was on his way to the bank after being at work for less than an hour, so Alvarez was the only one present.  Murray did not know this when he called Williams.  Murray did not know that Chase would ignore his request to get security.

- Cherilyn Lee testifies that Michael was asking her to find someone to give him Propofol overlapping a time when Murray testifies he was giving it to him every night beginning in mid-April. Cherilyn also claims she never met Murray but was giving him death stares during a break.  Cherilyn works for the NAACP as a co-health chair and runs a clinic with a medical director who is a convicted felon for stealing and distributing narcotics.  Mohammed testifies that he never saw any other doctors or nurses come into the house (including Cherilyn and Dr. Metzger).  Even though Mohammed supposedly referred Cherilyn to Michael.  (???)

- There are fingerprints that have been identified but not named.  No excuse for that.

- Alvarez testifies to he and Murray moving Michael to the floor, paramedics describe Michael still on the bed.  Alvarez says he pulled IV out.  Paramedic Blount says he did.  It’s not clear who it was that actually let paramedics in the gate.  (nobody testifies to this unless I missed this).  Williams testifies to the ambulance already being there and paramedics were bringing Michael down the stairs on the gurney/backboard when he arrived back to the house (thirty to forty minutes after his call from Murray), Mohammed testifies he was going to the bank and had to turn around to come back.  He testifies to calling Williams at 12:23 for permission to enter the house (so paramedics were not there yet) he saw Alvarez  with Murray.  Faheem was also the one that took the children downstairs so he didn’t let security in and Alvarez was with Murray when paramedics arrived.  So who let them in?

- Both Alvarez and Mohammed worked for “Security Measures”, the company, but not when they were working for Michael.  Alvarez and Mohammed knew each other through working there.  Interesting testimony from Williams was that Michael had his own personal cell phone which he says he knew AEG had the number.  If that is the case why would Phillips have to go through Tohme to talk to Michael (unless that is proper protocol as he explained?)

- Lou Ferrigno interviewed on HLN that Michael was healthy and motivated, and that he was reshaping his body and “wanted to come back a new Michael”. (He’s not a witness – just sayin’)

- Senneff testimony “Starter Drug administered at 12:40, 3.5.  Said Murray told him patient was allergic to Thorazine.  12:57 when he was talking to UCLA is when they wanted to call it for lack of life signs.” From Day 4.  How did Murray know this if Michael never released records?  And if Michael told him, when was Michael ever administered Thorazine?  (to sleep???  This is a psychotropic drug)

- Autopsy and Dr. Rogers says thin but healthy.  Senneff says emaciated, could see ribs, looked like hospice patient/chronically ill.

- Blount testifies that bodyguards on staff let paramedics into the house and directed them upstairs, however he does not name them and does not say who let them in the gate.  He testifies to canula being attached to Michael, which is attached to oxygen tank.  This canula is not in evidence.

- Testified it was common for a doctor to ask for assistance for CPR (if he needed to do other things).

- Judge allowed Brazil to change the time on the phone records during testimony on same phone records, even though this was a Sprint phone record.

- Many times defense abandons a line of questioning, sometimes as the witness (as in the case with Dixon for AT&T) is looking for the information the attorney asked for.

- Nguyen testifies to talking to Murray first before she talked to Cooper (even though Cooper had taken over as attending physician in the E.R.) because “that was the plan.”

- Anding testifies to hearing coughing in the background and that Murray had dropped the phone.

- House left open for 4 days, unsecured crime scene resulting in missing y connector tube, moved IV stand and tubing.  Family was in the house before collection of evidence was complete (LaToya’s book).  Jeffre Phillips spent a week in the house according to Jermaine’s book.  No Propofol residue is found in bag with cut in it or the tubing.

- Alissa Fleak admitted to making errors in collecting evidence, not taking pictures of evidence as it was found, falsely testifying that she was not in other rooms.  Syringe left in IV port four days, evidence of medications distributed through both bedrooms collected as evidence with house open for four days.

- Fleak testifies to getting records from Doctors Murray, Klein, Metzger, Addams, Tadisi, Slavik, Rosen, Nurse Lee, UCLA Medical, Dr Coppline and Dr. Hoefflin.  (And where did all these records go?)

FINGERPRINT ANAYLSIS:


- A 100 ml bottle of Propofol had left index fingerprint of Conrad Murray.

- Syringe had Fleak’s fingerprints. (another mistake by Fleak? Or deliberate?)

- Item saline bag with cut had four unidentifiable fingerprints.  But they did not belong to any of those fingerprinted – Murray, Fleak, either of the body guards, Kai Chase, Nicolas, Smith the detectives or either of the paramedics.

Saline bag (on pole) had one unidentified print not belonging to any of the above.

A 20 ml Propofol vial – in identification was made on prints there but was not named on report.

Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson, Alvarez, Amir Williams Mohahmmed, Goodwin Scott Smith, Nicolas and Kai Chase. Were NOT found on those items above on which identification was NOT made.

No finger prints found – 2 midazolam, 1 lorazapam, 2 lidocaine, 1 lidocaine, eyedrops, tube bq, bottle ephedrine/caffeine, two 100ml Propofol vials, 7 20 ml Propofol vials, 2 lidocaine vials, 1 lidocaine vial, 2 lorazapam vials, 4 flumazinil vials, 3 midazolam, IV tubing, IV wide connector tubing, syinge with needle.

- "Hospital Blood: Tube labeled "Trauma Gershwin" drawn 06/25/09 @ 13:30 hours."  This is 1:30 in the afternoon.  Michael was not DEAD YET or at least had not been declared dead yet.  How did the coroner draw blood at 1:30 when time of death had not even been called until 2:26???

Lab Results Summary



- 200mls of urine were taken from decedent (Anderson testifies this is a lot)

- Evidence pictures of the master bedroom (not the bedroom paramedics were in) shows a fire place that is very much in full flame (no screen across it, not a gas fireplace, there is no cover or fan attachment) and the tv screen  shows a DVD ready screen.  Fire suggests recent activity in a bedroom that no one is allowed to go into, and in which Michael was not sleeping in.

The Master Bedroom Picture, Taken By Detectives June 26



- According to Murray’s police statement, He met Michael in 2006.  Michael was referred to him through one of Michael’s security guards “Francis”.  Oddly enough Michael was also referred to Cherilyn Lee by one of his other security guards, Faheem Muhammed.  Muhammed and Alvarez knew each other as they both worked for a company called Security Measures.


I called the number and of course, it is out of service.  So I did a California business search on them and found this:

Entity Name:SECURITY MEASURES, INC.
Entity Number:C2955500
Date Filed:10/05/2006
Status:SUSPENDED
Jurisdiction:CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:23890 COOPER HILL DR STE 238
Entity City, State, Zip:VALENCIA CA 91354
Agent for Service of Process:STEVEN KEHOLR
Agent Address:23890 COOPER HILL DR STE 238
Agent City, State, Zip:VALENCIA CA 91354  Source


23890 COOPER HILL DR STE 238 Entity City, State, Zip:VALENCIA CA 91354


I also found this:

Alberto Alvarez Is a member of the NOI.
The following excerpt is from the "Final Call", the NOI newspaper:

Testimonies at Sedona Mxodus Retreat continues
By Mother Tynnetta Muhammad Updated Jul 22, 2008

This journey was very spiritual and meaningful to me for many reasons, but especially because this event manifested something that I have dreamed and worked for, for many years. To see the Black, Brown and Red families come together in peace, unity, cultural exchange and with an economic agenda we can ALL benefit from. With project MXODUS, we can bring in a change to the way we conduct business and present a new business paradigm where we can show what we can accomplish when we come together and pool our resources. I pray that Allah (God) will grant us success. I am humbled and honored to be a part of such a Spiritual and Divine mission that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has set in motion many years ago. Thank you for letting me serve.—Alberto Alvarez, Pomona, California, of Mexican Descent  This is the site of Alvarez’s “testimony” at Sedona.  Source



This is a Farrakhan, NOI organization.  Michael Amir Williams, Alberto Alvarez and Faheem Muhammed are all NOI – NOT TO BE CONFUSED with Orthodox, Middle East Muslims.  Remember that Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Muhammed, was seated in the January 2004 Goldman Sach’s meeting, WORKING WITH THE FALSE JEWS to take Michael’s catalog while he was fighting for his life.

Nation of Islam Tells Members to Embrace Scientology - Source and Source

I am just waiting for the announcement of the meshing together of the Babylonian Talmud and the Hadith.

I am going to stop here for tonight because I am getting a little sick to my stomach, a LOT ANGRY and there is somebody I know, who READS THIS BLOG that knows I have discussed Michael Amir Williams with him.

I am GOING TO DO MY OWN RESEARCH, sir, but I want you to know that I still have every copy of every email we exchanged.  Consider that a threat if you want to.  If you are/were TELLING THE TRUTH then you should have nothing to worry about, right?

So at least TWO of the bodyguards working for Michael got their jobs through Michael Amir Williams.  Those two both worked for a security company owned by someone in the NOI and who themselves are NOI, Faheem Muhammed and Alberto Alvarez.

Alberto Alvarez after Michael's passing worked a whole two months with the Jackson's before being fired.  Michael Amir Williams I am still researching, but I do know that he took a certain few children to a certain Christmas party held at a certain VENUE owned by a certain COMPANY.  Not sure how clean Amir's hands are, but I will eventually find out and if I don't, someone else will. 

Faheem referred Michael to Cherilyn Lee who is a co-health chair to the NAACP and employes a federally convicted drug dealer as her medical director.  She also has a patient who got her interviews on CNN, Larry King and other outlets.

So Murray was referred through another body guard that I cannot confirm if he worked for Security Measures. But that company was licensed in 2006 (ironically the same year Michael met Murray) and the business license for Security was suspended.

Just in case I missed  this the last time I discussed Farrakhan, Nation of Islam is very heavily tied in with the Masonic Order.  Those big speeches he gives on the “Zionists” is yet another diversionary tactic put forth by the other Illuminati infiltration groups.  Source

More on this tomorrow.  I’m spitting nails and I’m afraid I might hit somebody with them.

ME - OUTRAGED!

39 comments:

  1. Bonnie,
    I remember prior to the trial that people said the bodyguards were not allowed upstairs, so that would explain why gifts had to be left ay the bottom of the stairs. If the bodyguards have said at trial that they were not allowed in the house, this seems at odds as you say.
    Also, it was said previously that Michael's room was hot and the fire was on. So which room were they talking about? Did the 'sleep' room also have the fire on or not?
    People on the hoax forums brought up NOI and the bodyguards ages ago, but then it was refuted, and someone was saying that the NOI bodyguards had been replaced in 2009!
    Help, the web grows thicker...

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  2. @Princess - Faheem was the one that said he called Amir Williams to make sure he had permission to enter the house, so yes, he deviated from Alvarez testifying that they took gifts and paperwork into the house (if they were following Michael in perhaps that was okay? I dunno).

    Michael was in the OTHER bedroom not the master bedroom. That picture above is not the same room Michael was found in. That is why I posted that. If they were trying to keep a body warm, wouldn't they have the fire in the same room?

    I don't read the hoax forums and we also talked about NOI on THIS BLOG over a YEAR AGO. This is like the third time you have tried to undermine my research with the hoax forums KNOWING I've covered this stuff before. Why are you doing that? I don't care what they cover on the HOAX forums because they are SONY AFFILIATED. SONY. I'm not going to compete with people that planned to kill him in the first place. Of COURSE they would know who these people are.

    Supposedly NOI HAD BEEN FIRED and Tohme was quoted in some paper as having said he was accused of hiring them when he was the one that got rid of them. Funny how they show back up after he's gone. Amir is the only one that worked for Michael longer than six months. Tohme was reportedly fired in May of 09 (yet he was still doing business for Michael and kept his cash out of the house - smart thing after seeing how they handled evidence in the investigation!)

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  3. Hi Bonnie. A whole lot of witnesses and experts have testified and we still don't got all the answers and the truth. Murray didn't want to testify, what! If I was Innocent and had done nothing wrong I would Indeed defend myself and testify. I don't think Murray is an innocent victim. If he was he wouldnt have taken the job in the first place. I don't understand why you are defending Murray. But I respect your point of view. We all have different glasses on. And sometimes we are right and sometimes we are wrong. I was watching pictures of the transport of MJ's body to the coroner yesterday. It doesn't even look like they are carrying a body. It's totally flat. Faked ambulance photo, faked hospital photo, faked body transportation, faked autopsy photo. And we are supposed to accept and just eat what they are feeding us? I guess the autopsy report is a fake too. I wonder why the family wanted a private autopsy? I wouldn't be surprised if the family know a lot more than they are telling us. Maybe for some reason they are forced to keep their mouths shut. Thank you for the comforting words about number 7. You are right. If we believe and trust in God there is no need to fear anything. Especially not numbers I guess. I saw a photo of MJ from the video scream. He has number 7 on his chest. I never seen the number 7 in that video or on his shirt. Weird, maybe I closed my eyes to avoid it before. But if you, MJ and God think 7 is a good number I will try to accept and like it to. Maybe it will be my lucky number in the future. Susanne

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  4. Before Day 22's trial start, a black lady of 50 to 55 interviewed by Jane Velez said something like "a part of of Michael's death mystery has gone with him so we may never know the complete truth" : I couldn't agree more with her.

    With Dr. Paul White I was aghast as he evaded the answers & if David Walgren was tough & aggressive at times, I found it good actually.

    A criminal hand from outside may have killed Michael or C. Murray injected himself Michael & attempts to come out of it : these are the only 2 scenarios I imagine sofar. But Murray's responsibility (even partial) in Michael's demise is obvious (my comment on your Blog 10.28.2011 on Day 20 Trial). I do not believe Michael stupid enough to inject himself & if he eventually did, then comes a more far-fetched 3rd scenario : Michael killed himself deliberately for he was done with the society : his last week had been painful in all respects so he might have had a moral weakness of a few minutes leading him to a desperate act. But I am NOT CONVINCED myself with that 3rd scenario although strangely enough, Jason Pfeiffer had reported that Michael gave a strange & dramatic good-bye to everyone at Klein's office a week before that appeared to be estranged to Michael's next departure for London (true/not true ?). Now all these super crack scientific doctors who testified under oath could not in the end put their results together leading to only ONE SINGLE EVIDENCE on what really happened, so any total outsider can also have "opinions" & "believe".

    BONNIE said : "Supposedly NOI HAD BEEN FIRED and Tohme was quoted in some paper as having said he was accused of hiring them when he was the one that got rid of them. Funny how they show back up after he's gone."

    So some of the NOI were officially hired or re-hired after Thome's departure ? then who checked their background ? Michael's & Thome Thome's characters were obviously opposite but Thome did in a way a good job on the Neverland Ranch's & had started to clean up the house. But would any of you give this man or any other one anyway full signing power on all your belongings just because he made a previous good job for you ? As it proved, Thome did not steal & instead even returned $ 5 Mio after 06.25.2009 but Michael was either under mental influence again or too trusting & desperate when he agreed to this full power of attorney.

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  5. Dear Bonnie,

    I know your very busy, when you get a chance look at a series on YouTube called: Cops killed Biggie part 1 I think its three parts.
    Very familiar NOI characters.......why can't these fools be stopped and why are they murdering there own "brothers".

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  6. BONNIE said : "So Murray was referred through another body guard that I cannot confirm if he worked for Security Measures."

    Your link on the NOI/Masonic Order : C. Murray mostly referenced about e.g. Amir Williams as Brother Amir. Is Murray a NOI member ? I searched but found no such confirmation. N.O.I. seems to be a sect but not the real Islam : I would like to know what a real Muslim thinks of N.O.I.

    TMZ 04/18/2011 : "The L.A. County District Attorney has filed a motion asking the judge in the Michael Jackson wrongful death case to stop Conrad Murray's defense team from using any evidence involving the Nation of Islam."

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/18/michael-jackson-nation-of-islam-court-documents-prosecution-weirdo/#.TrFqhvT1npA

    Maybe they should have ! I read once that Michael was overcharged for the rental of his Carolwood mansion & also previously in 2007 his net fees for his appearance at the Zama Camp US Base in Japan were reduced down at $ 200'000 when he should have received much more ..all controlled by N.O.I. If I remember well, Grace Rwaramba said this or it comes from a passage of Ian Halperin's book I read on the Web in 2009 or 2010.

    Jermaine also wrote that in 2008 he had to fight with the NOI guards who refused to announce him to Michael at his Las Vegas residence when he wished to see Michael to propose him an introduction person (Thome) to save Neverland..& Jermaine was fuming against those guards when he in fact was the one who had first introduced N.O.I to Michael in 2003 when Michael was threatened. Finally the N.O.I. guards let him in so he could speak to Michael who said "they all think they are in control but it will change soon".

    Also from Jermaine's book, who were these new "men in suits" appearing at the TII rehearsals the last days of Michael's life ? Michael had such an imposed "suit" presence even in his private lodge at Staples Center. This control was from : AEG ? SONY ? or AEG/SONY/NOI ? AEG should at least know who those "suits" were, I think.

    Conrad Murray is responsible, yes, but only the peak of the iceberg.

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  7. Susanne said - "Murray didn't want to testify, what! If I was Innocent and had done nothing wrong I would Indeed defend myself and testify. I don't think Murray is an innocent victim."

    ....... Michael was innocent too and he did NOT testify at his own trial in 2005. Not testifying does not denote guilt. And to be clear, I am not defending Murray, I am defending the truth and their ARE liars on both sides.

    If we work at this with the thought that the same crooked system is still in place in California today as it was in 2005 when they were trying to convict Michael, we have to also accept that there will be witnesses on both sides trying to make the defendent look bad. Dr. White is "friends" with Dr. Shafer. I'm not convinced that White's inability to straitforward answer a question on cross examination is not an act. He was schooled at Standford, he worked in government first including one of their testing facilities before he became an anesthesilogist. It's hard for me to believe that this Dr. . . . the FATHER of Propofol never testified under cross examination before.

    He admitted on the stand that the prosecution had contacted him first.

    Michael had lawyers during his trial that were put in place to sabatage him - Geragos who was present at the GOLDMAN SACH's meeting before the trial even started (working with those conspiring to take his catalog), Brian Oxman, who succeeded in only falling asleep and putting his bulldog cheeks in front of T.V. cameras - Both ended up being fired (and others) before Mesereau came on (Mesereau actually fired Oxman himself). We know Chernoff and Flanagan had some disagreements and we know that Flanagan is a Mason/ring.

    These people are as thick as maggots on rotten food. (ugh!) So if Murray is not getting a fair trial, yes, I am going to say so. I'm not one of those people that believe the California justice system, who did their best to destroy Michael, suddenly cares about who killed him. Their objective with this trial would be to cover their butts with Murray, not seek the truth.

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  8. Dear Bonnie,

    Janet Jackson on the cover of Arabian magazine.

    http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2011/11/janet_jackson_booked_the_cover_1.html

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  9. Line said - "black lady of 50 to 55 interviewed by Jane Velez said something like "a part of of Michael's death mystery has gone with him so we may never know the complete truth"

    ........ Well I don't agree with her, but I do agree that this trial may not necessarily reveal that truth (that's becoming frustratingly obvious). We can however take pieces of info from this trial and do our own work.

    I can't defend Paul White's pathetic cross examination responses, but like I said, this is supposed to be an expert on anesthesia, he's given speeches, written books, responded at question/answer sessions from students and opposing colleagues. There is no way I can believe this man never testified under cross examination before. There were times I wanted to hear him finish his answer and Walgren would cut him off - (I don't remember Kamangar getting reamed for doing the same exact stonewalling to defense questions) However, I am also of the opinion that White was trying to defend Murray and not just answer the question.

    If Walgren was not deliberately twisting context of his quotes out of books or trying to make comparisons in articles that had nothing to do with the facts in this case, I would agree with Deb on White. But Walgren wasn't exactly asking him about relevant articles and finally the judge stepped in.

    This is the kind of behavior that really takes away from the facts and CONFUSES a jury. If you cannot pose questions without deceit, it takes away from the integrity of the examination and I lost faith in Walgren when he did that. This is aside from the fact that evidence is missing, tampered with and certain subjects were unfairly off limits by one party and not the other.

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  10. Bonnie,
    I'm in no way trying to undermine you or the blog, just saying that I had read all this before you started your blog, that's all. I think it is interesting that people come up with the same information, and have the same suspicions. I do not go to the forums much now, because you are far better at investigating and researching than anyone was over there, and we can all discuss things intelligently here, which is great! I won't mention them again, sorry :(

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  11. Bonnie – the most important question this trial did not answer, maybe it’s not feasible to do so, if Michael was killed, if he is really killed” by conspiracy.

    I have been waiting for Dr. Murray to really take the stand and testify to tell us all the truth since the truth, I believe, is with him. I was really crashed when I hear he is not going to testify. Now, we will never know the truth and what really took place in that bedroom as you pointed out of all the discrepancies in collecting evidences and all the people contradictory testimony.

    I think the truth buried within Murray forever.
    Mimi

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  12. Line said - (this is cont.) "I do not believe Michael stupid enough to inject himself & if he eventually did, then comes a more far-fetched 3rd scenario : Michael killed himself deliberately for he was done with the society : his last week had been painful in all respects so he might have had a moral weakness of a few minutes leading him to a desperate act."

    ......... There is NO WAY I believe that either. Michael would not have killed himself NOR DO I BELIEVE that he would put himself in a position for OTHERS TO DO IT. He has children. It wouldn't have happened, period. I don't think the purpose of the defense is to prove Michael did this (I know what it LOOKS like) but to draw out OTHER CONTRIBUTORS to what led up to this.

    This is not a normal court case or murder trial. You have to admit that much. The purpose of the prosecution is to cover some powerful backsides. The job of the defense is to bring them into the light. We may not get answers out of this trial, but we HAVE gotten some names, connections and organizations that have some high stakes in this. For that much we can be thankful.

    They made it impossible for Michael to get the message out to us clearly through his music, poems, drawings, speeches and films. Wherever Michael is right now . . . he's free. We are not. I believe that is why this has been drawn out and why the burden of discovery is being put upon us. This trial is very much a part of that.

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  13. Line said - "Is Murray a NOI member ? I searched but found no such confirmation. N.O.I. seems to be a sect but not the real Islam : I would like to know what a real Muslim thinks of N.O.I."

    (still on your posts, hee-hee). I have found no evidence of Murray being NOI. I HAVE seen the Masonic ring on Flanagan however. If Murray is the fall guy and NOI was deemed off limits, then that is not helping Murray is it? They allowed his girlfriends and lifestyle into the courtroom even though we were told that was off limits. Seems like the deck is stacked AGAINST him, not for him. They wouldn't even allow informatiom about the Life insurance policy or the AEG contract details to be discussed in court, yet they allowed prosecution to refer to it. The Judge wouldn't even let Chernoff bring it up. How is that fair?

    You said - "Maybe they should have ! I read once that Michael was overcharged for the rental of his Carolwood mansion & also previously in 2007 his net fees for his appearance at the Zama Camp US Base in Japan were reduced down at $ 200'000 when he should have received much more ..all controlled by N.O.I"

    ........... Now THIS is interesting . . . I thought Michael was NOT paid for that appearance. I thought he volunteered to visit. He made a list of places he wanted to visit, to include a children's hospital and the base and was OFFERED money for another appearance on the same day he visited the base, but turned it down in favor of talking to the troops for NO MONEY. Ian Halperin is just another Tarraborelli so whatever he wrote in his book you can pretty much disregard. The man never met Michael and used to write about Michael being gay. I can't believe we are even discussing him.

    Grace R. I had also read was referred through NOI to her position as first Michael's secretary, then as his nanny (hmmmm, sound familiar? Driver promoted to head of security with no previous experience? What a bunch of vampires!) Same with Raymone Bain . . . she began as an assistant then was "promoted" to his business manager. Every one of her PROMOTED positions was unverifiable and the one article that she was interviewed for they said Michael was supposed to call in but chose to "fax" his answers instead. Her story is REALLY screwey and she was connected to all those establishment people too.

    GOOD POINT about Jermaine's book. Yes, he had originally brought NOI in (probably didn't know they were actually Rockefeller funded through Schiff as well) until they began doing the same exact thing all their false Jew buddies were doing (they supposedly hate these guys, right? Dollar speaks louder than truth to them) and blockading Michael from everyone that CARES about him. As to what Michael told Jermaine about them thinking they were in control . . . have you ever believed Michael ever uttered an Idol or shallow intent or purpose? This is only one small reason I believe Michael didn't just PUT HIMSELF in a position like this.

    Men in suits? I believe I heard Phillips during his testimony say he attended the last two days of rehearsal, but he did NOT SAY who else was there . . . I suspect it had to do with Sony since they were the ones that would benefit the most if Michael somehow wasn't able to perform these shows.

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  14. BONNIE said :".... There is NO WAY I believe that either. Michael would not have killed himself..."

    Ooof ! I feel better.

    BONNIE said : "....NOR DO I BELIEVE that he would put himself in a position for OTHERS TO DO IT."

    If you believe he is alive & escaped, fine. You also said : "Wherever Michael is right now . . . he's free. We are not."

    We are not free because we live in a dangerous world, everywhere. IMO if Michael is free, he is free from this world, i.e. no longer with us, except in spirit. And IF he lives, he is obviously hidden behind a disguise for the rest of his life...without embracing his children anymore ? What a price to pay for freedom !

    BONNIE said : " I don't think the purpose of the defense is to prove Michael did this (I know what it LOOKS like) but to draw out OTHER CONTRIBUTORS to what led up to this."

    Yes !

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  15. Hello Bonnie,

    I just started reading your blog about a week ago and have been fascinated ever since. I have done a TON of research on the NWO and Michael Jackson as well..but never connected the dots the way you have here. I am super impressed with this blog and I find the information to be spot-on and fitting in nicely with the things I have learned. I do believe NOW that Michael was trying to tell us something and he was just a little too early. The timing of his "death" however was perfect in getting a lot of us to see what was done to him. I also believe that a great number of people are beginning to wake up thanks to his "death" and the subsequent information that has been unearthed. I feel deeply that we are on the precipice of a great awakening and it is only a matter of time before we reach the tipping point and revolution cannot be stopped. Everyone is getting there in their own way, and I give you big props for using Michael as a way to help bring that about.

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  16. BONNIE said "If Murray is the fall guy and NOI was deemed off limits, then that is not helping Murray is it?"

    Correct.

    Ian Halperin : I know & agree with you on him, but we all read so many contraditions & lies already : Where is the truth in all this ?

    BONNIE said : "Grace R. I had also read was referred through NOI to her position as first Michael's secretary, then as his nanny (hmmmm, sound familiar? Driver promoted to head of security with no previous experience? What a bunch of vampires!) Same with Raymone Bain . . . she began as an assistant then was "promoted" to his business manager. Every one of her PROMOTED positions was unverifiable and the one article that she was interviewed for they said Michael was supposed to call in but chose to "fax" his answers instead. Her story is REALLY screwey and she was connected to all those establishment people too."

    I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH YOU : all vampires & none can be trusted ! Michael in Japan at Zama Camp : I read the fee story once either from Halperin or Rwaramba so..can't take it for the absolute truth, I agree.

    BONNIE said : "have you ever believed Michael ever uttered an Idol or shallow intent or purpose? This is only one small reason I believe Michael didn't just PUT HIMSELF in a position like this."

    If he really escaped, then : MY RESPECTS, MR. JACKSON ! YOU ARE A MAGICIAN ! :o)

    BONNIE said : "Men in suits? I believe I heard Phillips during his testimony say he attended the last two days of rehearsal, but he did NOT SAY who else was there . . . I suspect it had to do with Sony since they were the ones that would benefit the most if Michael somehow wasn't able to perform these shows"

    So, AEG should enlighten the Prosecution on this on September 12, 2012, new trial time. SONY ? then AEG again would know much more than what we heard. What does a "suit" or guard would do in Michael's lodge ? A mafia was controlling Michael, but who are they ? That's why I'm afraid the TRUTH will be difficult to unroll. The bad guys, whoever they are, covered their butts since long ..unless God puts his hand on it !!

    Bonnie, thank you for your brillant & patient answers : I love you..but I'm done. Aren't you ? & on top of it "Desperate Housewives" is on TV. Just what I need right now : something superficial. Michael's tragic story drives me nuts at times ! Good Evening to you !

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  17. Dear Bonnie,

    I recall Farrakhan saying that MJ lawyer called him a week prior to his death while he was in Africa. Its strange because tupac said the same thing when he was released from prison. He said that people had told Farrakhan that he would be killed and he was wondering why they told Farrakhan. Was it to get permission? Do you know that Janet Jackson boyfriend is from Qatar and is muslim I hope she not gettin herself caught up in some mess.

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  18. Bonnie said, "I don't think the purpose of the defense is to prove Michael did this (I know what it LOOKS like) but to draw out OTHER CONTRIBUTORS to what led up to this."


    What you said is correct, but also the defense job in this trial is to defend their client’s innocent of the crime. Therefore, they want “to draw out other contributors to what led up to this” to show us how Michael could probably have drugs addiction problem, as a result he created his own demise so Dr. Murray is not responsible for the final fatal dose, but Michael is.
    Mimi

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  19. Hi Bonnie. Its so easy to misunderstand people. I am defending the truth too. I wouldn't be surprised if there are liars on both sides. Nothing new under the sun, right? "Bulldog cheeks in front of TV cameras", ha ha ha, that was funny. Where do you find funny expressions like that? What is a Mason ring?? Line said, "Michael gave a strange & dramatic goodbye to everyone at Klein's office a week before he died", end of quotation. The green Hulk said that a week before MJ died he got the feeling MJ said goodbye to him too. The Hulk said, - See you next week! MJ didn't respond to that. He just kept on saying, - Take care of yourself. Susanne

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  20. This might not be anything, but in the list of things not reconciled or clarified -

    It was reported in several different places that Conrad Murray's mother accompanied him the first day of the trial. Did we ever hear anything about her again? Did we ever see any photographs of her? Strange to me...

    (mentions Murray's mother at beginning of 8th paragraph) http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2011/09/the-death-of-michael-jackson-conrad-murray-trial-day-1/

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  21. Hi Bonnie. Line said that thome thome returned the money he kept for Michael, after his death. Who knows, maybe he only returned a part of it. Soon after MJ died Thome Thome bought a new luxurious house. Susanne

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  22. Dear Bonnie,

    Michael Amir and Joe jackson.

    http://www.5min.com/Video/SNTV---Joe-Jackson-blames-Katherine-306510147?form=BRAVAV

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  23. Michaels bodyguards are NOI and Murray or whoever he is is a member of a Masonic Lodge in Houston Texas. The hoaxers have known this for years. Heck Forrest Lawn has a Masonic Hall in it

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  24. some interesting info u may already have
    Inside Conrad Murrays Masonic Lodge http://www.wix.com/kingsofisrael/koi#!

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  25. Bonnie! this is so amazing...a new article I just saw!have you heard about this? How amazing that some one contacted them within 48 hours of Michael's death to inguire about Propofol and murder....that is awfully fast for them to find out about this case AND get the contact info? I thought nobody was thinking anything within 48 hours of his death about the Propofol?????
    http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111102/ARTICLES/111109875

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  26. Bonnie,Hi.
    AlQaeda flag flying over Libya Dennis Kucinich reports
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OywA0ry610&feature=feedlik
    my opinion,Kucinich is one of the good ones,he was my councilman in the 80's,and lived in the neighborhood.Peace.Linda

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  27. Bonnie,Hi...me again.
    Port of Oakland shut down,The protesters are playing Michael's"They Don't Care About Us".
    Quite awesome!Peace.Linda

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  28. Linda....said...
    Port of Oakland shut down,The protesters are playing Michael's"They Don't Care About Us".


    Linda...did you see a video of this or read about it!!? How did you find out? I would love to see a vid of that!

    Cathy

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  29. Line said - "We are not free because we live in a dangerous world, everywhere. "

    ......... Well we are still disentangling ourselves from "the lie" but we're getting there. Knowing the truth and doing something about it are two different things, I know. On Michael and not seeing his children anymore? Don't think that's happening. If he is still here that is what disguises are for. But the baddies have to be exposed first.

    Line said - "So, AEG should enlighten the Prosecution on this on September 12, 2012, new trial time. SONY ?"

    ....... What 09-12-12 trial time? Is this for the AEG Lawsuit from the Jacksons? I wasn't sure where they had moved that date (awful far away!) That's a civil case though.

    Line said - "Bonnie, thank you for your brillant & patient answers : I love you..but I'm done. Aren't you ?"

    .......... Uh . . . YEAH! Love you too! Geesh!
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    Nita said - "He said that people had told Farrakhan that he would be killed and he was wondering why they told Farrakhan. Was it to get permission? Do you know that Janet Jackson boyfriend is from Qatar and is muslim I hope she not gettin herself caught up in some mess. "

    ......... Hi Nita. I don't know but I too find that odd. Qatar is not the same. Nation of Islam is a totally American establishment of racists (yes, those too come in more than one color). Orthodox Muslims or REAL Muslims are not affiliated with NOI.
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    Mimi said - "but also the defense job in this trial is to defend their client’s innocent of the crime."

    ..... In normal trials yes, that's true. Have you listened to Chernoff during his opening argument? Big clues in there. You can probably find it on Youtube now. Not once during that opening argument did Chernoff state that he was going to show how Michael killed himself. The closing arguments are going to be even more interesting.

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  30. Susanne said - ""Bulldog cheeks in front of TV cameras", ha ha ha, that was funny. Where do you find funny expressions like that? What is a Mason ring??"

    ......... I just put in writing what Oxman reminds me of. Glad it made you laugh :o) Are you familiar with the Masonic Temple? Look up "masonic ring" in Google and pictures will pop up.

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  31. islandisle said "How amazing that some one contacted them within 48 hours of Michael's death to inguire about Propofol and murder"

    That makes it even worse. If they were thinking that after 48 hours, why did it take them another 48 hours to secure the house at Carolwood?

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  32. BONNIE said : "..... What 09-12-12 trial time?"

    Yes the AEG vs Katherine Jackson civil trial actually fixed on Sept. 10, 2012, not Sept. 12.

    http://www.swrnn.com/2011/06/01/michael-jackson-death-lawsuit-could-be-impacted-by-doctors-criminal-trial/

    SUZANNE said : " Line said that thome thome returned the money he kept for Michael, after his death. Who knows, maybe he only returned a part of it."

    Yes, who knows ? Thome did help Michael in some business ways. But Thome's facial expression gives me the chills. Was he OK or.. real bad ? Like you all I speculate in every direction :o(

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  33. Anonymous said - "It was reported in several different places that Conrad Murray's mother accompanied him the first day of the trial. Did we ever hear anything about her again? "

    ........ I heard that but I didn't see her. I would have liked to have seen her or heard her talk about Murray.
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    Susanne said - "Line said that thome thome returned the money he kept for Michael, after his death. Who knows, maybe he only returned a part of it."

    ......... That is pure speculation and not one I am willing to burden Tohme with. As for him buying a luxurious house - Where did you see this? Never heard about it.
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    Nita said - "Michael Amir and Joe jackson."

    Yeah, I saw him on there briefly. Bunch of bunk though about Joe "blaming Miss Katherine". I hate the press. Why do they have to be so hurtful? Found another video on there . . . subject is old but in the video look at Michael in short hair. I love that look on him. You can see his face.
    http://www.5min.com/Video/Jacksons-250-Million-Dollars-Deal-284037549

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  34. Anonymous said - "Michaels bodyguards are NOI and Murray or whoever he is is a member of a Masonic Lodge in Houston Texas. Inside Conrad Murrays Masonic Lodge http://www.wix.com/kingsofisrael/koi#! "

    ........ I hope both those posts are yours. If not I apologize but I'm answering both since the topic is the same.

    There is no proof that Murray is a Mason. I investigated that claim last year. The only proof the TINI crowd could produce is a photo shopped picture with the neck collar over a suit that is the same in another picture I have. I visited the site and there is no picture of Murray at the lodge and not mention of him on the site. Masonic Lodges do NOT publish their membership photos inside the lodge, online. The term SECRET SOCIETIES is given to them for good reason. Who ever put this up is pathetic.

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  35. @Anonymous . . . By the way, that Masonic lodge site is hosted on a free website . . . another frequent habit of TINI's dumb tactics.

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  36. Island said - "Bonnie! this is so amazing...a new article I just saw!have you heard about this? How amazing that some one contacted them within 48 hours of Michael's death to inguire about Propofol and murder....that is awfully fast for them to find out about this case AND get the contact info? "

    Wow! Good find and a VERY GOOD POINT!!! We know TINI - financed by SONY had a campaign ready to go against Murray AND AEG the day after the 25th with SOME TESTIMONY on the 25th! Their website was ready to go BEFORE then judging by the date on their own website and the hoax sites were put up TWO DAYS BEFORE MICHAEL'S PASSING . . . So what does that tell you?

    I had that MJmedia09 person a few blog entries back practically screaming at me "HE'S DEAD! HE IS DEAD!"

    Must be mighty important to them that he is or they wouldn't be so freaking unbalanced about it. I stopped posting her rants, I got sick of hearing it. Found the paragraph:

    ""Within 48 hours of Michael Jackson's death, we were contacted by the Los Angeles Police Department asking for information about our case," said Spencer Mann, spokesman for the State Attorney's Office. "They were interested in what our circumstances were with propofol with our defendant and our victim."

    Within 48 hours???? THEY HADN'T EVEN SECURED THE SUPPOSED CRIME SCENE UNTIL THE 29TH!!!

    These people are idiots! LOL!

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  37. @islandsisle...I was watching the protest live(at the time)on Global Revolution,11-2-11Peace.Linda

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  38. Bonnie
    Apparently I am the "pathetic" one with the post about Murray being a Mason.
    Sorry I did not do my homework.
    Mjsmessengers

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  39. @MJsmessengers -

    Not you, the people that photoshopped that picture. I've seen these assassination web sites before . . . Taaj Malik was very proficient at putting stuff up like that when she was trying to malign people. You may not have known that, I would never call someone pathetic just because they didnt' see something. That comment was directed at those deliberately trying to deceive people. I'm sorry if you thought it was personally directed at you. ♥

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