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Michael Jackson Justice: Michael was Pharmaceutical Experiment to Klein and Others

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Michael was Pharmaceutical Experiment to Klein and Others

December 1, 2011
Michael was Pharmecuetical Experiment
For More than This is It!

Suffering - The Eyes



 Morphine/Demoral
He's one of us baby, another drug baby
Put your trust in me . . . 
 This is a continuation of the blog on Klein.  A list of doctors intially investigated included Dr. Klein, Metzger, Adams, Ratner, Farshchian and others below: 

The List of Doctors

Sources said they were also interested in speaking to Ratner, an anesthesiologist who traveled with Jackson on tour about 10 years ago. Ratner's New York medical license was suspended for 36 months in July 2002 after he was convicted of federal criminal charges including mail fraud, health care craud and making false statements related to health care matters, according to the New York disciplinary board. He was sentenced to eight months, including four months of house arrest followed by three years of supervised release. According to New York state records, Ratner is currently allowed to practice. 

Law enforcement sources confirmed to FOXNews.com that Demerol, propofol (Diprivan) alprazolam (Xanax), Percocet and antibiotics were found in Jackson’s rented Holmby Hills mansion after he died. At least some of the bottles of Diprivan recovered from Jackson’s home were found without labels indicating their origin”.  Source


Submitted by “Line”

CBS – Frank DiLeo Asked Michael who
Said, “Don’t Ask me that, I have Kids
I’m not doing that.”

Finally this bit of distasteful info (the author that is):

The Secret World of Dr. Arnold Klein
Aug 25, 2011 8:21 PM EDT 

Hollywood's "dermatologist to the stars" has been caught up in the investigation of Michael Jackson's death. But he may have some tough new questions to answer thanks to a litigious battle he launched against his former office manager and former accountant. 

Michael Jackson’s favorite doctor, celebrity dermatologist Arnold Klein, ought to be preparing to deal with the onslaught of negative publicity sure to erupt around him once the manslaughter trial of Dr. Conrad Murray gets underway. Yet he has kept his legal team busy filing a (new) bombshell pleading to augment his January 2011 bankruptcy case. In it, Klein blames several people and institutions for what he claims is a multimillion-dollar fraud that caused his financial misfortune.

Meanwhile, those in the know say Dr. Murray’s defense team is expected to tell the jury it was Dr. Klein who caused Michael Jackson’s late-in-life frail condition by prescribing repeated doses of narcotics to Jackson, specifically Demerol. They will hint darkly that it was the drug-dependent Jackson’s craving for more and stronger drugs that caused him to seek out the anesthetic Propofol and to hire the ostensibly well-meaning Dr. Murray to administer it to help him fight chronic insomnia. Defense lawyers will argue that Jackson’s death from a lethal dosage of Propofol was a tragic and inevitable accident.

Dr. Klein filed a complaint (called an “adversary proceeding”) with the bankruptcy court on June 27, 2011, blaming his former office manager Jason Pfeiffer, his former accountant Muhammad Khilji, and nearly a dozen financial institutions for what he alleges was a $10 million fraud against him. Naming them as defendants, Klein claims Pfeiffer and Khilji conspired to set up false businesses through which millions of dollars were embezzled. Klein also alleges that his banks, mortgage companies, and financial advisers should have caught the criminal behavior.

(This is Michael’s story – Klein is trying to paint himself as Michael, up to and including a claim that he gave $300million to charity).

That action by Klein has now caused a legal blowback that is sure to rock his Hollywood clientele, which includes Cher, Dolly Parton, Carrie Fisher, and the late Elizabeth Taylor.

Pfeiffer has answered with a counterclaim. “I just couldn’t take it without filing a response with the court,” he told The Daily Beast. “I could not let him get away with blaming me for his outlandish lifestyle. Everyone was telling him, ‘You’ve got to cut back spending!’ But he didn’t listen and now he blames us.”

Codefendant and Certified Public Accountant Muhammad Khilji asserts a similar story of reckless spending. “I’m going to defend myself,” he told The Daily Beast. “It shouldn’t be too hard, because he’ll have to prove I took money and he knows he was running out.”

Khilji worked with Klein for about three years and said he witnessed a shocking disregard for the bottom line. According to Khilji, Dr. Klein saw his monthly office revenue drop drastically between early 2007 and 2011, in large part due to the departure of two of his top-grossing medical partners. Dr. Klein told The New York Times in 2004 that his practice brought in $20,000 a day; in his bankruptcy court filing, his gross monthly revenue is listed as $93,872.

“To say I’m a thief? He still owes me $50,000 from outstanding invoices,” Khilji said, adding that his next step is preparing a slander suit against Dr. Klein.

Pfeiffer, 38, began working for the doctor as a personal assistant in 2008 and was quickly promoted to manager of Klein’s high-profile medical office. As the doctor’s righthand man, Pfeiffer asserts he was privy to all aspects of Klein’s life, and his counterclaim lays bare his account of that life in jaw-dropping, graphic detail.

Pfeiffer depicts Dr. Klein, 66, as an obsessive sexual predator who repeatedly and sadistically took advantage of Pfeiffer’s loyalty as an employee, used Pfeiffer’s name to illegally prescribe prescription drugs (mostly sex-aid drugs like Cialis and amyl nitrate) for himself and others, and humiliated Pfeiffer by forcing his participation in Klein’s late-night, obsessive online trolling for male sex partners.


From page six of Pfeiffer's counterclaim, which was filed Aug. 3 in bankruptcy court:

“Throughout Mr. Pfeiffer’s employment, Dr. Klein required that Mr. Pfeiffer prepare him for sexual encounters with masseurs, paid escorts and prostitutes, and others. Mr. Pfeiffer was required to prepare Dr. Klein for sex frequently as Dr. Klein generally had several sex partners each week and on occasions multiple partners daily. Klein required that Mr. Pfeiffer wash Klein’s groin, administer Klein’s Cialis, Viagra and similar prescription drugs, greet and accompany Dr. Klein’s masseurs and other sex partners when they arrived at the Los Angeles or Laguna Beach homes and as they were leaving, pay masseurs and others on Klein’s behalf.”
Source

I was not going to post this because Diane Dimond wrote it (The Daily Beast….how fitting), so who knows how much of this extra info is truth.  The fact that David Geffen wrote on behalf of Klein is enough to make me write him off any lists of integrity:

David Geffen, the prominent music and film executive who has long worked with Klein in the fight against AIDS, weighed in with a letter addressed "Dear Arnie" and written to be shared.

"In light of all that is being said about you in the press I was compelled to add my truths. I have never known a doctor who tries to know and learn everything as completely as you do, a doctor who has always been there for me," Geffen wrote.

Klein also was allegedly writing a book “The doctor is writing a book about the King of Pop. What Klein says he came to know about him: Jackson wasn't a drug addict but indulged in wine (he called it "Jesus juice"); was a prude and an innocent who wanted to live his childhood forever; and "wasn't adult enough to be sexual," contrary to the child molestation allegations Jackson faced.”  Source

Somehow that doesn’t endear Klein to me at all.

Another source – Cascio’s book (this was sent to me) describes Michael in the Mid to late 1990’s:

As a teen, Cascio was on tour with Jackson with Mexico City in 1993 when Jackson was swept off to rehab by his good friend, screen legend Elizabeth Taylor.

"Elizabeth takes us aside and says to us, 'We're going to get him out of the country after the show. He's going to go to London,'" Cascio remembered.  (
Who’s “we”?)

Jackson would later release a videotaped statement to his fans, announcing he had undergone "treatment for a dependency on pain medications."

Years later, Cascio began working for Jackson. He said he would keep Jackson's stashes of the anti-anxiety drug Xanax, the narcotic painkiller Percocet or the sedative Valium out of Jackson's reach at night.

"I wanted to always make sure I had them with me and not have anything in his room where he didn't wake up and say, 'I can't sleep tonight,' and not realize what he's taking. I was trying to think 10 steps ahead," Cascio said.

Jackson, he said, resorted to certain medications when he "just wanted to escape all the chaos."

Cascio said the drug he worried about most was Demerol.

"I didn't like what it did to him at all," Cascio said. "There was a change in personalities, especially when you saw him coming down from it and, you know, he became a different person."

Cascio said Jackson became angry, bitter and "mad at everyone just taking advantage of him."

"That's not a person that I was very fond of," he said. "That's a person that I know that he wasn't fond of."
Source

Again, let me state that I believe Jermaine when he said that Michael was not an addict.  However, they DID TRY TO MAKE HIM ONE.  I believe this is one of the things if NOTHING ELSE, the Dr. Murray trial needed to exist to reveal.

During the recent Conrad Murray manslaughter trial, at which Murray was found guilty of causing Jackson’s death and sentenced to four years in jail, there was a smidgen of barely noted testimony that revealed Dr. Klein may be in for even more stringent punishment than just having his license yanked.

Lt. Scott Smith, the LAPD’s lead investigator into Jackson’s death, testified that shortly after the case was ruled a homicide, a division of labor was established to avoid any “head butting” with the feds. The LAPD would concentrate on gathering evidence against Dr. Murray while the Drug Enforcement Administration would zero in on other Jackson doctors suspected of providing the pop star with an overabundance of narcotics. Lt. Smith testified that Dr. Arnold Klein’s name was specifically mentioned as a DEA target.

The next day, Jackson arrived at Klein’s office at 11:30 a.m. and received another 200mg shot of Demerol before undergoing a facial filling procedure with Restylane. One hour later, the records show, Jackson received an additional 100mg of the narcotic. After another hour the patient was administered a further 75mg of Demerol before he left the office—375mg of narcotics in just three hours is considered a massive dose.

And so it went throughout the weeks and months, until Jackson’s last appointment on June 22, when he was given 100mg of Demerol. This was three days before Jackson died. (The half-life of Demerol begins in the body in just a few hours with nearly all traces of it gone within about 20 hours. That could explain why there was no trace of Demerol found during Jackson’s autopsy.)”  Source

That source came from Diane Dimond.  Should we discount it because it’s her? 

Then the answer to a prayer below, the recompense for the controversy of Klein:


The California State Medical Board has formally subpoenaed Michael Jackson's former physician and long time friend, Dr.Arnold Klein to appear at a hearing on December 15, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.”  Source

Now, while working on this blog today, I was sent this by Line: today,


Interview with Ratner

@2:25 - I've seen this web page before.  I will have to dig that up.  I had started a blog on it a while back and never went back to it.

@3:30 - Yes it IS a rather unusual career change.  How do you go from music industry to anesthesiology?  (Murray Mirror)

@3:54 - I remember reading about this too.  How does one JUST become an anesthesiologist?

@4:05 - Not sure if I believe the New York Daily News on this one . . . just too convenient.  Especially since Metzger has already testified under oath that he was with Michel during more than one tour as his doctor (this doesn't mean that Ratner wasn't also there, since he's not an internist but an ANESTHESIOLOGIST.  When Metzger said HE never shot Michael up with Propofol he could be telling THAT truth).

Is "Edgar Winter" the same "Ed Winter" who is now a Coroner?" @4:20, 4 paragraphs down. See - http://www.iviewtube.com/v/63468/chief-coroner-ed-winter-explains-michael-jackson-autopsy-results

@5:13 - God in Heaven . . . a "rack with lights and monitors?"  a "mini-clinic"???  What the hell for?  All this for hydration?  Bulls***!!!!

Does anyone find Bryce Taylor's book all that far fetched now???

@8:22 Myung Ho Lee says he hired Ratner in 1999.  That was after the History Tour!  Michael wasn't TOURING THEN!  Lee said they were getting Michael off of Demoral and Morphine then (Jermaine's 2001 or so "problem" Michael had?) Lee could be lying, but those symptoms along with any other "chemicals" they could have been giving him to charge him up could be the reason Michael was up for 48 hours at a time unable to sleep!

@9:56 – Seems as though Lee is another manager that did not understand what the word “fired” means.  I don’t believe Lee was rehired and I don’t believe Tyson (Cascio) was working in Michael’s best interests in acting as Liaison.

@10:09 – Someone replaced Ratner in 1998 because he was convicted and sent to jail (went to jail in 2002.  How does someone stay out of jail after conviction for a year and a half?), so Lee is lying.

10:41 – Interesting, Luna points out in video that Ratner’s signature on this court document is July 8, 2002 – One day after Michael’s “Branca Will” is signed.  Michael was in New York (not L.A.) on those dates.

11:10 – She quotes Roger Friedman a lot . . . that bothers me.  Not everything Friedman writes is fact.  As a matter of FACT, Friedman has been the “story teller” for the establishment on Michael.

Ratner, while he very well could have been the anesthesiologist present during the History Tour, this was going on BEFORE THEN.  Metzger was also involved.  I find it striking that in this particular video neither Klein nor Metzger is ever mentioned.  Luna just said “two doctors” were on tour with Michael during “History” and Ratner is the only one named . . . why?

@11:50 – Luna displays a news press release about the concert in Seoul.  This is very interesting.  Not only does it list only two cities for this “concert tour” (Seoul and Munich – Where Deiter Wiesner wanted his presence), but  look at the organizations involed . . . UNESCO . . . a U.N. one world order organization responsible for the dumbing down of the potential of most of the children world wide (especially in the good Ole’ U.S. where our N.E.A. adopts most of the required curriculum/brainwashing programs for our schools), Red Cross (Bob Dole’s wife used to run this program – much funding descrepencies) and the Nelson Mandela Children’s Fund, which probably has never been audited either.

12:21 – Ratner is now a partner in Tau Entertainment with Gary Haase (I’ve heard of this before).  The label “Tau” is distributed by IODA who is under Sony Music.  This was announced on July 1, 2009.  This was the same day I saw the deer stop and look at me as it crossed my path on the Ma and Pa trail near my home in Maryland (I later had a dream about the family as a herd of deer in my home).

14:02 – Under TAU/IODA/SONY label two other albums were produced in 2010 . . . Artists?  Hussein Bashir’s “Aber Sabil” and Martin Bashir’s “Bass Lion”.  Source NBC Correspondent Bio  Funny the site’s bio of “landmark” documentaries don’t name the “Living with Michael Jackson”.  Guess people are supposed to forget?

I’ve also noticed that Luna quotes quite often, Friedman, LeslieMJU (an Estate/Sony propaganda blog) and the New York Daily Times.  She (he?) lists a lot of Michael’s enemies as sources, but there are also the connections made to Sony (finally!) in this particular video.  I do like what she found.

But why direct attention away from Klein and Metzger?

Thank Line for posting that video.  This was a good one.  She has covered Branca before (I think, unless I’m getting her mixed up with someone else?)  I don’t agree with everything she has which is why I have tried to do my own investigating, however . . . .

There are pieces a lot of these people are bringing to the table and if one thing doesn’t exactly fit, you will always find a piece somewhere else that someone else found and this is one example.

The truth is buried and not everything that goes through the sleuthing process is going to be gold.  But if everyone on claim puts their gold together???

While Justice (hopefully) will start unraveling the drugging doctors of Michael Jackson, I want to start on another subject tomorrow that was brought up today on the blog, and you know it is a rather emotional one for me. 

The victims of mind control, Isolation and abuse were not just mid to late 30’s something pop icons . . . There were children.

Thank Linda and Anonymous for the sources for tomorrow’s subject.  God bless you all and as anonymous suggested, please pray and pray earnestly and with all your heart for the children of the world that Michael knew were being terrorized, abused, isolated and forgotten. Thank you.

Trust in me, just in me, put all your trust in me
Relax, this won't hurt you
before I put it in, close your eyes and count to ten
Don't cry, I won't convert you
There's not need to dismay, just close your eyes
and drift away

Demoral, Demoral oh God he's taking Demoral
Demoral, Demoral , Oh God he's taking Demoral

He's tried, hard to convince her
To get over what he had
Today he wants it twice as bad
Don't cry, I won't resent you
Yesterday you had his trust
Today he's taking twice as much
(Klein)



20 comments:

  1. More about Ratners co-conspirator from the 2002 case Niels Lauersen. http://www.dynogyno.com/case_law/case_law3.htm
    ...Would the jury had ruled differently had they known that a famous Rock’n’Roll star currently in the media; asked to have his name suppressed from Dr. Lauersen’s case to protect Dr. Neil Ratner ?....(is the rock´n roll star Michael?)

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  2. @BONNIE : The Video "CBS-F. Dileo" sent by Line - I am NOT the one who sent it to you.

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  3. Hi Bonnie. I just wanna say. R.Kelly - I believe ( not I believe I can fly. But that is a good one too.) and R.Kelly - Spirit. God bless everybody around the world who loves MJ. And don't forget L.O.V.E. and T.R.U.T.H. Take care, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and God Bless you all. Susanne

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  4. Hi Susanne - Thanks you for your kind wishes. It's December but I start to say Merry Xmas around December 20 :o) In case you already go on holidays, I wish you a very Happy Xmas too with lots of happiness & serenity. Take care & God Bless you too♥

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  5. @BONNIE - On the Video first sent to you by Anonymous yesterday (Part 53), Part Nr. 49 below on John Branca, starting at 6:48 :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXYW42NRFcY

    Many speculations. At 12:41 J. Branca having possibly helped Michael to fake his death ?!

    Abusive doctors & child abusers now exposed. A start only, hoping the Justice will operate with full integrity. So many children damaged for life, Michael gone & so much still to be done ! Strange it comes out more now Michael has left.

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  6. MJonmymind said - "Would the jury had ruled differently had they known that a famous Rock’n’Roll star currently in the media; asked to have his name suppressed from Dr. Lauersen’s case to protect Dr. Neil Ratner ?.."

    ........... Yes, it was Michael. They name him further down, however it was Michael's handlers/lawyers, not Michael himself. Notice also that Denise Rich is involved in this one as well. Denise Rich/Boteach/Clinton.

    Clinton/Stan Lee/Peter Paul and Michael. I knew there was a reason I couldn't stand Clinton. Michael did look a bit concerned in that picture where Clinton was picking up one of his children.
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    @Line - Yes, I know that now . . . I just got my butt handed to me by the person who sent it to me, LOL! I'm crossing my sources. This is what happens when I ask for help . . . and I get it! :o)
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    Susanne said - "R.Kelly - I believe ( not I believe I can fly. But that is a good one too.) and R.Kelly - Spirit. God bless everybody around the world who loves MJ. And don't forget L.O.V.E. and T.R.U.T.H. Take care, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and God Bless you all"

    ........ Did you want me to look up those songs? I will. What did you find significant about them? Are you going on holiday? Merry Christmas and God Bless you too!
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    Line - on the video:

    Stuart Backerman - Had you heard of him being Michael's "publicist" before this (in 2003-2004? Where do these people come from? Geesh!

    @6:50 - June 17th, was Michael at the Forum then or did he already move over to the Staples Center at that time?

    @6:58 - Problem . . . who is Sharon Wrapsman. Second, the information is false. I know how the meeting with Branca came about and this isn't it. I can't tell you how I know, I just know. It was DiLeo who told Michael Branca wanted to meet with him. DiLeo met with him first. I see where this is going but I will watch the rest of it.

    Damn . . . do I say anything? Do you remember what I wrote earlier in the summer? I will email you about this, I can't here.

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  7. Line - I was right . . . this person is pushing the "Branca was rehired in 2003" line. I wrote to you about the rest.

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  8. Bonnie – first, I want to thank you for diligently researching about those who were experimenting and supplying drugs to Michael. Right now I am completely confused if all those doctors really experimenting drug with Michael, did he finally become hooked on them and need them in a regular bases or did he really want some help to sleep during concerts as his brother said? I am not asking this in conjunction with the Pepsi commercial incident that lead him to be dependent to pain killer, which he overcame.

    The reason I ask is because we all believe Michael to be smart and intelligent person, so would he really fell into drug experiment just simply like that? I believe what Line submitted to be true when he said to Frank DiLeo “Don’t Ask me that, I have Kids I’m not doing that.”

    Over the weekend, I was really thinking why Dr. Klien wasn’t even called to testify during the trial. Do any one of you know about this birth control called Yez? Okay this birth control has severe side effects and even some women lost their life. Since the FDA and the drug company that manufacture the drug are in bed together, the FDA, so far, did not even make a stop not to be sold to young women. The FDA also work hand in hand with the Judicial System that in turn protect the big pharmaceutical companies interest. Now you can imagine that since Dr. Klien have some affiliation with the FDA, there is no way they will drag him to the court to testify because he is protected by the power within the FDA.

    Bonnie, I know you have been saying this all along, I am just reiterating it to make a connection with deadly birth control that is affecting and killing our young women.
    Mimi

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  9. Oh Bonnie, I feel ill...literally ill, reading all of this, but I understand it is oh so necessary. i have allways been wary of Klein....even before June of 09. he has allways given me the willies. *shudders*

    I may be mistaken, but isn't Jason Pfeiffer the guy who claimed to have an intimate love affair with Michael? that claim was beyond rediculous, and also makes me ill. *sigh* i only ring it up because again, if I am not mistaken, didn't Arnie Klein not only back him up at first but also claim he walked in on the tow of them with their shirts off and that he was happy for them? i mean COME ON! does he not see all the contradictios in his ever changing stories? is he insane?!? this all makes me livid....it truly does. i try to stay in control of my negative feelings because I know they are distructive to me, and tnat is not what God wants, but Arnie Klein makes it quite difficult for me. i will continue to pray for Michael, for you, and all the Jacksons because in reality, that is all I can do. i trust that God is guiding us all to the proper conclusion to all this madness.....if I didn't . i would be the insane one..lol. :)

    *hugs and love *

    Kira

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  10. Just guessing here but maybe what Susanne was trying to say was that not only did R. Kelly write "I believe I can Fly" he also wrote Michael's song "Cry"...... Was that it Susanne? :)

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  11. So although Ratner doesnt want to talk about it, the likely hood that he supplied propofol to Michael during the History tour is very strong.
    Also it is so sinister and upsetting to learn of Michael being deliberately issued un necessary high doses of demerol. The demerol increasing the insomnia, which in turn lead Michael to seek out the propofol.......a sinister scenario, where the hounds of hell were after him.
    Speaking within that similar time frame, of the late 1990's I wonder whether that bridge collapsing on the ''Michael & friends'' concert,in Germany ( 1999) was a genuine accident? I've heard it speculated before that it might not have been a genuine accident. Michael injured his back very badly as a result, and so would have needed more painkillers. :-(
    That poor dear man, could he not trust anyone to think of his best interests??? :-(
    Love Jenny

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  12. Mimi said - "The reason I ask is because we all believe Michael to be smart and intelligent person, so would he really fell into drug experiment just simply like that? I believe what Line submitted to be true when he said to Frank DiLeo “Don’t Ask me that, I have Kids I’m not doing that.”

    ........... Thank you for bringing this up. Remember the song Morphine. I believe Michael tells us in that song that he is not a WILLING participant and I don't think they got him all the time. Only during times they think he needed reprogrammed or was on tour.

    When Michael said that he can't tour again that it would kill him, this is why. I also believe that these other doctors, not all of them are guilty of willingly overmedicating him. They may have had a few core doctors who agreed to play ball and the others were fall guys in case something went wrong. They may have prescribed just on orders of highers up.

    I also believe there may have been doctors in certain countries they had on standby in case Metzger or Ratner needed a break or couldn't practice in that country.

    You are right on the money on Klein and the FDA. and THANK YOU for posting that information about the birth control. If you have a link to that information please feel free to post it and thank you for your contribution :o)♥♥♥ /\

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    Kira said - "I may be mistaken, but isn't Jason Pfeiffer the guy who claimed to have an intimate love affair with Michael? "

    ........... No. Jason Pfeiffer actually filed and declaration with the court against Arnie Klein and in it he claims that he and Michael only had a professional, rather detached relationship. Jason Pfeiffer was interviewed and the interview was edited, chopped up and had parts pasted over which if you watch the film of it you will see it when you know to look for it. Jason had stated that his interview was "taken out of context" and that he never said he and Michael were lovers. Klein at first tried to verify seeing Jason and Michael shirtless in an office, then later denied it. The object of this deception? To ruin the credibility of Jason Pfeiffer because he had information about what Klein was doing to Michael. The tabloids were relentless.

    I don't know if Pfeiffer even cares about Michael. But I do trust that he was maligned to protect Klein.

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  13. Kira said - "Susanne was trying to say was that not only did R. Kelly write "I believe I can Fly" he also wrote Michael's song "Cry"...... Was that it Susanne? :)"

    ........... Didn't Michael co-write "Cry"? (I noticed that some people have gotten credited for writing songs that Michael said he wrote, but I digress), aside from that, I think Susanne was talking about "Fly" not Cry. :o)
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    Jenny said - "I wonder whether that bridge collapsing on the ''Michael & friends'' concert,in Germany ( 1999) was a genuine accident? I've heard it speculated before that it might not have been a genuine accident. Michael injured his back very badly as a result, and so would have needed more painkillers. :-("

    ............. You're right. That was no accident. Some have speculated they were trying to permenantly put him out of commission, others say to kill him and others say what you said, to cause a need for pain killers (again).

    Karen Faye seemed to want to blame this on Kenny Ortega, but Ortega was the director . . . he wasn't a crane operator.

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  14. Bonnie,

    Thanks for clearing up the Jason thing for me, Sheesh, is Jleun a piece of work or what? :)

    Regarding "Cry"... i have Michael's boxed DVD set "Visions", which I treasure beyond words, all of Michael's vids in one collection! Bonnie, if you don't have it... i highly reccommend it. i watch parts of it daily. :)

    Anyhow, it comes with a gorgeous book full of photos, many I had never seen, and it also lists all the song and video credits, so I pulled it out to look, and beside Cry it lists R.Kelly as sole songwriter. that of course doesn't mean Michael didn't co write it...it just doesn'say so. ( i'll bet he did co write it) Since i had the book out, i began to look at all the song writing credits for his other songs, and about spit my coffee all over my cell's keyboard when I saw R. kelly also has the sole writing credit for "You Are Not Alone"!!!

    *hugs*

    Kira

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  15. Kira said - "Regarding "Cry"... i have Michael's boxed DVD set "Visions", which I treasure beyond words, all of Michael's vids in one collection! Bonnie, if you don't have it... i highly reccommend it. i watch parts of it daily. :)"

    ......... Hi. You're welcome on Jason. We'll see how that turns out. I have a feeling people are going to be going at each other as the you know what starts to hit the fan. I'm not happy about it.

    I looked up "Cry" and you're right. Kelly is listed as the writer. I'll have to find interviews to see if anything contradicts that but I know Michael did a lot of work he didn't get credited for too and there was so much. This may have been one of the few ways songs he wanted on his albums didn't get kicked off.

    I don't have anything like that. I love Michael's films but I don't want to give Sony the money. I'll watch what I can online. I bought TII. That was it.

    Hugs to you too♥♥♥ God bless you.

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  16. LOL @ myself!!

    I meant to type..." is KLEIN" a piece of work or what?"

    who the heck is "Jleun"?? *giggles*

    worst typo EVER! Darn itty bitty cell keys. :)

    Bonnie, I totally understand about not wanting to give Sony money. Had I known what I know now....I wouldn't have purchased it either.

    God bless you and yor mission too. :)

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  17. How interesting. Bonnie, did you notice it's Frank Cascio standing between Michael and Uri Geller in the bottom photo? I'm sure Shmuley is not far away. Here, there, handlers everywhere - more like ticks under the skin. Michael's eyes tell the story. Like having a form of malaria! :-(

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  18. I'm curious as to what you think about the part of Jermaine's book where he mentions Michael having symptoms that were similar to being poisoned? Could someone on his staff have been poisoning him, maybe through food? I haven't heard anything on this and am curious what you think. If you've addressed it already, sorry, I must have missed it.

    Seems he was completely surrounded by the criminally insane. Makes me sick then makes me cry everytime I think about it. We, his fans, indirectly and very UNintentionally did this to him by loving him so extremely much, buying all of his records and such, and always eagerly wanting more-more-more, all of which which landed him into such dangerous positions. I am so sorry for what our love for him ultimately did to him. He wouldn't have gotten to where he is if it weren't for his fans - sad twist to that truth. I am guilty of almost 30 yrs worth of love for that beautiful man. May God bless him whereever he is at.

    K

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  19. Kira said - "I meant to type..." is KLEIN" a piece of work or what?"

    who the heck is "Jleun"?? *giggles*"

    ........... I don't know. I was in Google translator going through the languages to see which one it was, LOL! Now after all that work I find out :o))) But I do that all the time. My blog is full of typos and I work where I can't catch them all, there just isn't enough time. Micheline usually calls me and tells me what's amiss and sometimes I still don't get back to correcting it. So just let me say . . . You are in good company!
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    Spotlight said - "did you notice it's Frank Cascio standing between Michael and Uri Geller in the bottom photo?"

    .......... Yes I did see that. How does anyone stand next to Uri Geller without getting the willies? Even the shape of the man's head is a pyramid! (albiet upside down)
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    K said - "I'm curious as to what you think about the part of Jermaine's book where he mentions Michael having symptoms that were similar to being poisoned? Could someone on his staff have been poisoning him, maybe through food?"

    Yes, I believe Michael knew about drugs in his food or them trying to drug his food. I think being a light eater was great protection. Kai Chase was fired and ended up back at the house within a month. Why?

    Michael did not eat the soup she left for him in the fridge, but Latoya testifies to a bowl and crumbs from a sandwich being left on a desk outside the Master bedroom no one was allowed into.

    Latoya also testified on Dutch T.V. and in her book that her food was drugged with mind control drugs. So yes, I believe every bit of what you mentioned (we did cover mind control and abuse in previous blogs. Search "MK Ultra" in the search box and it will pull those blogs up for you.

    Don't feel guilty for being a fan of Michael. God wanted him to witness and that is what he did through music, lyrics and movement. It was THEM that turned it into something else. We just have to help him get the message out. He asked us to so many times in his songs ♥♥♥

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  20. Bonnie said "@6:50 - June 17th, was Michael at the Forum then or did he already move over to the Staples Center at that time?"

    Michael was at The Forum on June 17. They moved to The Staples Center June 23.

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