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Michael Jackson Justice: Michael Jackson - The Kid is Not My Son

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Thursday, February 9, 2012

Michael Jackson - The Kid is Not My Son

So the Scriptures Might Be Fulfilled
Who Danced on the floor
in the Round?




I wanted to start today’s blog with section of scripture taken out of the Book of John.  I want you to read this and really look at the words because it is the last prayer that Jesus prayed, asking God to keep his disciples and to keep those elect who are to become.

It is a prayer of love by someone who knew he was going to be fulfilling scripture.  Someone who is about to leave those he loves, to gather his children out of the church he will later be married to when he returns.

It starts in John Chapter 17.  Jesus first prays for his apostles:

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:  2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.  3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.  5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.  6. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.   8. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.  9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.  11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee.  Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.  12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.  14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.   15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 

17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.  18. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.”


Note Jesus makes an exception for the Son of Perdition, “that the scripture may be fulfilled”.  The second part of this prayer, Jesus prayed for us; those that the apostles were to reach.  Those children who would be gathered unto Him from that time until the final days before He returns.  :


Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;  21. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.  24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.  25. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

26. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.


How do we become perfect, in one with Christ, as Christ is one with God?  Because further along in the Book of Romans it says:

“23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans is a remarkable book.  If you read through the whole book, Paul is explaining to the churches that the Jews are not above the law, and that the elect are saved through grace, NOT through man’s law and that God is the God of all, not just the Jews.  He is reminded the teachers of the churches that Jesus died for us for this reason.

During this time the infiltration into the churches had already begun, and Paul was trying to keep them together.

In the Gospel of John, Jesus tells us:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

That one verse sums up in the whole Bible how much we are loved.  It tells the whole story.  Everything around it is HIStory and PROphecy, so that we may learn and so we can “see” with open eyes the “same pattern with these people” who manifest themselves with the “ghost of jealousy”.

In Romans chapter six, it explains to us the importance of taking ourselves out of the world and choosing the gift of life, so we may be “one with Him” and not with the world.  The devil for now has domain over the world but not over us.  Satan has no power over us that we don’t chose to give him.

“23. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

This verse sums up the difference between that choice we make to continue in sin or accept the gift.

In Romans chapter 10, Paul further explains to us how this walk of faith works.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Then Paul a couple more verses down reiterates this:

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


After this Paul asks how those will come to know this love that are out in the world and Paul answers:

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Paul further tells us throughout this chapter that we will be provoked to anger and to jealousy by “a foolish nation”, because faith not tested is faith not exercised.

One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard Michael Jackson sing is this one:

You Are My Life


Christ is our life.  He is the one that shows us that love is the answer to all that we are.

Most of Michael’s songs about love are about this very thing.  He also has songs about treacherous women, the weakness of the flesh, about the fight between good and evil and of course the songs in which he tells us how they are controlling him and through him trying to use him to control us.


Michael tells us in “This is It” that “this is real”.


Michael sings that he is the “light of the world”.  Only one person made this claim in the Bible and that was Jesus, BUT Jesus also told his apostles that they are the light of the world . . . those that will give the message of love to the world and indeed, Michael is the light of the world so much that they hated him “for my Namesake” as Jesus told his apostles they would . . . because once we are saved we are not of this world but of Christ, who was of God.  We are protected and drawn to his bosom and no longer will the devil have a chance at us.

Something else that strikes me about this song.  Some of the lyrics kind of blank out or you don’t hear him clearly (they can turn this down over certain words when processing this and I wonder if that was done).  Some of the lyrics have a personal, VERY PERSONAL bent to them and if you concentrate on the words, you know he is singing to you.

References to one thousand years , saying we’ve seen his face before, it kind of puts your mind in a place where Jesus is talking through Michael, telling us that he is seeking us out, our hearts, that this is real, he’s the light of the world.  He is talking to YOU.

When he sings “I never thought that I would be your lover, come on babe just understand” he’s not talking about rolling in the sheets . . . he’s singing about becoming one with him, with his heart just as Jesus talks about us becoming one with him, as he is one with God.  (Sorry ladies, we have to get out of that mindset.  This is about the soul not the flesh).

On this part of the lyrics I need some help.  At 0:44 seconds, the written lyrics say “And I know that you have got addicted with your eyes” . . . this is not what he is singing but I can’t make it out.  I turn my head and listen, turned it up.  Can anyone with better ears hear this and tell me what he is saying?

At 1:22 he sings “This is it, I can say . . . I’m the light of the world run away”.

Well, the light of the world is gone – Left on June 25, 2009.  And we are starting to feel that this is real.  We covered on the previous blog, the very fact that when Michael left, everything went down hill and is getting worse, up to and including that display of Madonna’s at the Superbowl.  Everything the Bible has told us will happen in Daniel, Thessalonians, Matthew, Isaiah and Revelation . . . it is coming true, so please listen to Michael’s songs and RE-listen to them.

Next, you know where the Bible is.  I can’t afford to buy one for each and every one of you (One person is getting one and she knows who she is).

You can go to Biblegateway.com, pull up the oldest version you can find which unfortunately on this site is the King James Version (Wycliffe is also there I believe, but he has a TON of footnotes between the verses and it’s hard to read).  We don’t want the footnotes we want the verses uncorrupted.

The reason I chose Biblegateway for you is because it has a search feature which the Geneva Bible does not.  But you can also find the Geneva Bible in the upper right list of links and use that to compare wordings in the verses.  You can pull up the word “Love” and read every verse in the Bible in which this word is mentioned.  Look how many times Jesus talks about love!

Michael said more than once he tries to be “Christ-like” in his heart.  He always talked about “bringing love back into the world”.  You know what they did to him as a result and now they want to use his appeal and twist his message just like the New world religion seeks to do.  Michael was tortured and so was his family.  They are STILL surrounded, so they still need our prayers do NOT give up on them!


Jermaine Jackson


Jermaine is releasing a video and I believe it was Diane who sent me the video.  This is the video:

(Sorry Jermaine, should I call it a “film”?)
Blame it On The Boogie
Thanks to Diane


Question:  Why oh why is Jermaine re-releasing this now?  Watch the video (film!  It’s a film!  Get it through my thick head!)  Note that Jermaine is also wearing red and black.  (Madonna colors).

I thought the timing of this was rather . . . timely?  Right after Madonna’s super bowl sacrilege, the press release was put out on it, even though it was uploaded to Youtube on January 26th of this year.

So is Jermaine telling us that the devil is controlling us through music and controlled THEM through music?  Here is part of the lyrics:


That nasty boogie bugs me, but somehow how it has drugged me
Spellbound rhythm gets me on my feet
I've changed my life completely,
I've seen the lightning leave me
And my baby just can't take her eyes off me

And

This magic music grooves me,
that dirty rhythm fools me
The devil's gotten to me through this dance
I'm full of funky fever, a fire burns inside me
Boogie's got me in a super trance


In another little twist of irony sure to get any Jackson fan’s attention is the fact that this song was a “The Jackson’s” song.  Jermaine was not even a member of the group when they recorded this, but he is the only one now singing it (brothers are backup?)

I wonder if they are going to re-release “Torture” and “I’ll Be There” and “This Place Hotel”?

In response to this video and a look at the lyrics with different eyes, I wrote to Blake –

You also mention "Blame it on the Boogie" . . . Yes, I know and it's funny you should bring that up because I am working on a blog where someone sent me the video that Jermaine made in re-releasing that video, except he is singing it.  Everyone else is dancing but he is not . . . http://www.youtube.com/embed/uq8PUotusO4


There MUST be a reason he is releasing THIS SONG, now!!!

Not sure about Jennifer Batton and Orianthi, the light from the guitars.  I always wondered if the "Bille Jean" story was just cover and there was another meaning behind it.  For forty days and for forty nights the law was on her side, but who can stand when she's in demand her schemes and her plans . . ."  further down "She told my baby we'd danced til three, then she looked at me. She showed a photo of a baby crying his eyes were like mine . . . "

XXXXXX I am wondering if this is a follow up to "Heartbreak Hotel". 

Remember the video I put up on the blog where controversy surrounding the cloning from DNA taken from the Shroud of Turin?  What if Billie Jean and that BABY is about that?  Michael is singing as God telling us that "the kid is not my son", but his "eyes were like mine"???

I'm going to go look at this song.


So I did


Billie Jean with Lyrics
Really, really listen/read!

Link to lyrics of “Billie Jean” Click Here

It starts off with


She Was More Like A Beauty Queen
From A Movie Scene
I Said Don't Mind, But What Do You Mean I Am The One
Who Will Dance On The Floor In The Round
She Said I Am The One
Who Will Dance On The Floor In The Round


Now look at the second verse:


“She Told Me Her Name Was Billie Jean
As She Caused A Scene
Then Every Head Turned With Eyes
That Dreamed Of Being The One
Who Will Dance On The Floor In The Round”


This song is a lot more sinister than some girl threatening a paternity suit.  Michael asks what do you mean “I am the one”.  Then the lyrics go on to say “who will dance on the floor in the round”.  The second verse tells of a woman (is she in subsequent songs called “Susie”?) who is telling Michael he was going to be “the one” and that “every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being THE ONE”.

Michael was being told he was “chosen” for something and in “Cry” he tells us he is the chosen one but he needs some kind of sign.  Perhaps this is because the last time he heard this, it wasn’t from the good guy?

The bridge:


“People Always Told Me Be Careful Of What You Do
And Don't Go Around Breaking Young Girls' Hearts
And Mother Always Told Me Be Careful Of Who You Love
And Be Careful Of What You Do
'Cause The Lie Becomes The Truth”


Be careful who you love, who you give your alliances to, because a lie becomes the truth.  Michael was chosen to become “Prince” in the industry.  From here it leads into the chorus –


“Billie Jean Is Not My Lover
She's Just A Girl Who Claims That I Am The One
But The Kid Is Not My Son
She Says I Am The One, But The Kid Is Not My Son”


Now if we take this out of the “paternity suit” context and look at how Michael applied MOST of his songs, perhaps in this song “Billie Jean” is actually “The Harlot” who rides in on the beast?  The harlot is telling Michael “he is the one” but Michael knows that this child, the one perhaps they are claiming is the “second coming” is NOT of Michael, or of God.  Michael knows this child is not going to be of God but the Harlot is going to deceive people.  Let’s look at the other verses and see that this indeed is backed up in verses 3 and 4:


“[3rd Verse]
For Forty Days And Forty Nights
The Law was on her Side
But Who Can Stand When She's In Demand
Her Schemes And Plans
'Cause We Danced On The Floor In The Round
So Take My Strong Advice, Just Remember To Always Think Twice
Do think Twice

[4th Verse]
She Told My Baby We'd Danced 'Till Three
Then She Looked At Me
She Showed A Photo Of A Baby Crying
His Eyes Looked Like Mine
Go On Dance On The Floor In The Round, Baby”


Wow.  For forty days and for forty nights, the law was on her side.  Which law?  Talmudic law?  Rabbinic law?  The Illuminati’s law?  Indeed who can stand when the harlot is in demand, her schemes and her plans?  From the beginning of time to mimic God and deceive the nations, cause he “danced on the floor in the round”.


What is “the round”?

The Round Table was created in London (the Illuminati's operational centre) in the latter years of the 19th century. Its first  official "leader" was Cecil Rhodes, the man who mercilessly manipulated Southern Africa and took those lands from the black peoples. Although, in theory, black people are back in political control of Africa, the real decisions are still made by the European and American elites via their black puppet presidents and leaders. "Independence" is an illusion.” – Source, Bibliotecapleyades.net

Now this is getting interesting.  Michael “danced on the floor in the round”.  We didn’t “take his strong advice”.  Maybe we will now.

4th verse tells us about the baby with eyes like his and “go on dance”, forget about everything, we’ve got it under control.

So the “harlot” is going to try and pass off a “baby” as “the one”, son of who?

If this is the harlot seeking to “counterfeit” God, and claim it is his “son” in the “temple” and Michael was the “proxy” . . . or????  He was the one chosen by the Illuminati for this.  But Michael is telling us the baby is not his, or . . . is not God’s. 

Ending of the song:


“[Bridge]
People Always Told Me Be Careful Of What You Do
And Don't Go Around Breaking Young Girls' Hearts
She Came And Stood Right By Me
Then The Smell Of Sweet Perfume
This Happened Much Too Soon
She Called Me To Her Room

[Chorus]
Billie Jean Is Not My Lover
She's Just A Girl Who Claims That I Am The One
But The Kid Is Not My Son
Billie Jean Is Not My Lover
She's Just A Girl Who Claims That I Am The One
But The Kid Is Not My Son”


Here Michael is telling us (funneling God through him, the warning/message) how they were trying to deceive him, to make him think either he was, or the baby was His son (God’s). But he knows it is not.  He insists that she just claims it is.

And before you guys out there who are waiting to jump on this with the decades long story about some girl jumping a fence at Hayvenhurst - If you don't GET IT by now that Michael said before that the "label" has asked him to "lie" before, then go back to 2010 on this blog and start over reading.

Michael’s other songs have told us “the world has a role for me” (Will you be there), “will me, thrill me somebody’s gonna kill me, take me, shake me somebody’s gonna fake me” (This time Around), “Am I the beast you visualized” (Is It Scary), and in the same song he sings “But if you came to see the truth the purity, it’s here inside a lonely heart, so let the performance start” and “Does the heart reveal the proof like a mirror reveals the truth, see the evil one is you”.

They faked him.  Billy Jean was the precursor to what was going to happen and it’s looking like Michael knew a LOT MORE of what was going on long before we believe he did.

I did a search in Bible Gateway for “forty days and forty nights” and of course one’s mind would immediately go to the Flood of Noah.   But that is not the only time the number “forty” was mentioned.


And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:

3. And forty days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days of those which are embalmed: and the Egyptians mourned for him threescore and ten days.

34. After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

8. And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.

6. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

13. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:


I was looking for some kind of significance to law and considering the subject of the harlot and the “round” in the Illuminati, I thought it would have more to do with either Jewish or Talmudic law.

I did a search and found this resource with a list of the significance of the number 40 in the Bible and Jewish Law – Source, Ecclesia.org


Of the list present on this site, I found the closest relationship to this particular song had to do with the gestation period of a woman with child (40 weeks) and in Talmud law, an unborn baby is not given the honor of being “human” until it passes the 40-day gestation period, meaning they don't consider it a sin to abort a baby prior to the 40-day period gestation.

Other references to 40 days range from Noah and his 40 day rains/floods to the rein of David, Solomon and Saul in the Bible.  Ezekiel bore the iniquities of Judah (the other, “treacherous sister” of Israel, Judah, who played the “harlot also” -

And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.”

 - for 40 days and forty nights.

- Jesus also was tempted by the devil for 40 days, and he appeared before the Apostles after his resurrection for 40 days.

So for “forty days and for forty nights, the law was on her side . . .” Michael or who God for whom he is singing, is in a position where her “schemes and plans” are in demand.  This would fit more along the lines of Ezekiel being told he had to lay on his side and bear the iniquities of Judah for 40 days.  (Who can stand when she’s in demand, her schemes and her plans?)

We can also attribute this to the two times that Moses went up on the mountain for forty days to receive “the law” from God.  (For forty days and for forty nights, the law was on her side, her’s meaning Judah’s or Israel’s side until they broke the covenant by playing the harlot with Baal).


The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.  7. And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.

8. And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.  9. And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.  10. And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.



Take Me, Shake Me
Somebody’s Gonna Fake Me



Last thing before I close for tonight.  Remember the pictures I showed you a few blog entries back, about the wax figure, and a few of us having a conniption fit because it looked nothing like Michael?  The pictures below:


Madame Tussaud’s New York



Madame Tussaud’s Washington D.C.



Micheline and a couple others on here thought there might be something to the idea that the system might be trying to get people used to a “different” face and purposely did a poor job on Michael’s likeness, remember?


Well, I think I found the model for those wax figures:


This gentleman looks more like the person in wax then the real Michael. This is the same guy who was standing next to Miss Katherine at the tribute – Glee???

He is either another test, a distraction for what is really coming, or . . . He’s ???


His videos are on this page,



And he never had his picture taken with Michael.

Photoshopping Again
@... and @1:23


Photos from his website


MJ 2012 MJandCR-2
This is actually a very BAD photo shop - even the grain is different



The pictures he took with Jackie and Tito on is site are too dark for me to tell if it is photo shopped, but the “hand” on Carlo’s left shoulder look like exactly the same hand in the same position.  The photo with Miss Katherine looked real, if that is the same impostor.

I’m not saying it’s going to be him.  But the confusion in so many tribute artists, so many “doubles” running around as part of “her schemes and her plans . . .”  Should have people very hungry for a CONVINCING counterfeit when they are done playing games.

She showed a photo of a baby crying it’s eyes were like mine . . . go on dance on the floor in the ‘round’ baby”.

More to come.


I will end with the poem I wrote when I was crying so hard on Tuesday.  It came out of nowhere (had to blow my nose before I could type it on the ‘puter”).  I wonder



The Gift of Life

Moving through the wall of a thousand eyes
As they follow my every thought
Feel them hunger laviciously
For a soul that cannot be bought

Dew drops like cleansing in early morn
After a treacherous night
Settle on wires of every nerve
Calms the heart preparing to fight

Donning the shield of protection
Unsheathing the sword of the Word
The helmet of his Salvation
An act of His love from the Lord

The realm of darkness facing us down
Will always pull back from the LIGHT
This is why he gave us his Word
To ready our closed eyes for sight

Be wary of obstacles placed in your path
And know he is testing your faith
Be ever vigilant, guard from deceit
By keeping your eyes on His face

Knowing the sacrifice is not enough
It’s never just about you
The gift of life is meant to be shared
So others can know His love too

Bonnie L. Cox © Poem 2012


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.





105 comments:

  1. Okay, Truthbtold, the pain in the butt has been removed. :o)

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  2. Everybody I took the copy blocker off so you can highlight and copy now. I may put it on in the future, but for now it's off. Should make things a lot easier. :o)

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  3. "You Are My Life" Song . Bonnie, I had long ago read that Michael had composed it when his elder son Prince was born : but Michael is not here to tell so one may indeed also interpret it as a praise to God since God was in many of his Songs.

    "Don't Blame It On The Boogie" : You said : "..is Jermaine telling us that the devil is controlling us through music and controlled THEM through music.."

    I already loved the original Jackson5 Clip but Jermaine alone is very good too. Perfect make-me-feel good music for me to dance as optimistic wake-up call or when I breakfast :o) But does the word "devil" there really relay a specific message ? And why Jermaine didn't make such music Video remakes or his own music whenever Michael was still there ? A pity because, although different from Michael, Jermaine has a good voice & a presence actually. Out of Janet's career & La Toya's sporadic one in the 1990s, the other Jacksons rather kept a low profile in showbiz in the shadow of Michael for years & seem to wake up only now. Why? I think I'll keep that Song in its rhythmic fun-funky/fitness context. "Cry". "Will You Be There" & others made me cry enough.

    "This Is It" Song : Bonnie, you said : "When he sings “I never thought that I would be your lover, come on babe just understand” he’s not talking about rolling in the sheets."

    ROFLMBO ...My romantic little soul is destroyed..:oD

    More seriously, Michael's pics & Vids during a Gala at the Zama Military Base in 2007 were very good : always that unique large smile, slender walk & elegant maturity which suited him well (also when he attended Jesse Jackson's birthday in 2007). Why all these pathetic effigies of Michael at Tussaud & elsewhere when the original Michael was so much better & NOT EVEN to compare with ? I agree : there must be a somber agenda to continue to destroy Michael's image for future generations & make believe he was an eccentric transvestite ...HE WAS NOT ! THEY should roast in Hell !

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    1. Hi Line,

      I had heard that too, and there are lots of cover stories out there put out by people other than Michael wanting to cloak his message. It could very well have been composed around the time Prince was born . . . but was it ABOUT Prince?

      In the song Michael sings, "You helped me understand that love is the answer to all that I am. And I'm a better man since you taught me by sharing your life" . . . that was a dead givaway to me . . . Didn't Christ share with us eternal life by dying for us?" And how about - "Once all alone, I was lost in a world of strangers. No one to trust, on my own I was lonely. You suddenly appeared, it was cloudy before, now it's all clear . . . You took away the fear and you brought me back to the light." Why would Michael write this about his son? And why not his other children? They weren't important enough to write songs about?

      Blame it on the Boogie IS a fun song, with a little message in them. Why use the word devil if it is such an innocuous song? "It changed my life"??? Really? The tune is almost playful and I like. :o)

      This is It - LOL!!!! Hey, I did say it is a very personal song. Wherever you take the song, i don't want to know about it, LOL!

      When I really listened to the song the first time, I honestly was put in a place where I felt he was singing directly to me, and I think that is the way the song is designed. I song actually fell in step with my dream of Jesus, seeing his face in my dream, telling him I loved him in my dream. "This is It" really, REALLY hit me hard. Made me fall in Love with Michael if it were possible to be any more than I already was.

      Michael at Zama - Loved listening to him speak even though the mic was horrible or his mouth was too close to it. He was very elegant there I agree. And to the eccentric transvestites trying to be Michael . . . Takes soul baby! And they have a lot of work to do in that department!

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    2. You Are My Life - if Michael maybe composed Songs for his other children, he probably kept them private. But your God Spirit interpretation of the Song can also be correct, meaning we again read press garbage. His "Pretty Young Thing" Song was written earlier I think but also read he at times named his daughter Paris PYT - true or not but cute.

      This Is It - You said : "Wherever you take the song, i don't want to know about it, LOL!"

      I don't take the Song anywhere but had a good laugh with your "rolling the sheets" & " (Sorry ladies, we have to get out of that mindset. This is about the soul not the flesh)." & "Made me fall in love with Michael..." WHO IS BAAAD ?? Hee-hee. OK, we are not here for fun:-[

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    3. Well I can hear Paris and Blanket now . . . "That's not fair!" LOL! And Michael's reply "hey, keep calm and heal the world." :o)

      Fun is okay, relax, let off some steam. 15 Minute break over and back to work! ♥

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  4. Boniel, eu já não creio que Michael está vivo, existe fortes indicios, de uma falsa morte? existe, mas pra mim, essa falsa morte faz parte dos assassinos de Michael, assassinaram ele e dps lançaram supostas pistas pra deixar as pessoas em duvida da morte, com isso vi muitos fãs achando que murray estava com mICHAEL NO PLANO DA FALSA MORTE, VI PESSOAS ACHANDO QUE MURRAY É COMPLETAMENTE INOCENTE. Essa hiposte de michael estar vivo fazem muitas pessoas lucrarem, na venda de livros dvds, os videos na internet também causa interesse e polemica. posso estar errada mas tudo foi muito arquitetado, eles alimentam essa crença.

    Se Michael estás vivo ele deve estar sobre ameaça coagido ou cisa do tipo
    Será que Michael iria deixar seu filhos extrtremamente expostos e a merce dessas pessoas?

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    1. Translated: Boniel, I do not believe that Michael is alive, there are strong indications of a fake death? There, but for me, this false death is part of the killers of Michael, murdered him and threw dps supposed clues to make people doubt the death, with many fans saw it thinking that was with Michael murray AT THE DEATH OF FALSE, VI PEOPLE FINDING THAT MURRAY iS COMPLETELY INNOCENT. This hiposte michael alive many people are profiting on the sale of books dvds, videos on the Internet also causes interest and controversy. I may be wrong but it was very architected, they feed this belief. Michael If you are alive he must be coerced or under threat cisa type Does Michael would leave their children exposed extrtremamente and mercy of these people?

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    2. Estrella,

      Yes there are STRONG indications of a fake death. Everything around it is lies. Murray IS innocent. Even Latoya told us he is the fall guy.

      The "Michael would never leave his children" is the same garbage attack used by the TINI people. The people profiting from the sales of books and DVD's are the ones that insist he is dead.

      You also have another leg of this element who all work under the same deceptive umbrella that puts out the Hoax info. They will attempt to bring back an fake Michael.

      All anyone has to do is listen to Michael's songs to know that he had something planned. I keep saying this. With everything that has gone on in the last two years, there is a lot more evidence of him being alive then him being dead including the family give-a-ways and hints.

      Yes, I agree with you, this was very architected. But the BAD PEOPLE are not the only ones that know how to scheme. Michael saw this coming a long time ago. How can you think Michael just sat there waiting for them to kill him, knowing his children would be just left out there? Not happening. If Michael planned to disappear, you got to know that what is going on his under his close supervision.

      I wish people would give Michael a little more credit. He's not stupid. How can someone write the kind of messages in his songs that he did, create the films he created with them to WARN us in parables, then sit there like a retard twiddling his thumbs knowing people are trying to kill him. Makes no sense.

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    3. OMG Bonnie you're in rare form today lol. I almost fell out of my chair laughing on that last sentence....a little politically incorrect (saying that with sarcasm so don't take offense....I use that word too :0) but true....and funny to boot ;)

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    4. I know, I'm sorry. Shouldn't have worded it like that. Trying to trust that what is going on with/around his children is taken care of.

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  5. Bonnie

    I just read an article re: a new MJ tribute being put together by Jennifer Batten and Chris Fischer. Apparently it takes 3 or more people (an impersonator Carlo Riley, a singer Preston Scales, and choreographers through StoliGrant Productions) to equal 1 Michael. I listened to Scales....ughh, sounds nothing like Michael. I can't get the link to paste...I'm on my phone & can't get YouTube at work. Just search for Preston Scales and Human Nature on YouTube. Can't paste the article link either :( just google Forever Dangerous. The article is a press release on PR Web dated 2/10/12. You may be right....Carlo may be being groomed to be "the faker".

    On another topic I went to the Sony site last night looking to see when the began using the "make.believe" slogan (September 2009....hmmmm) and I decided to look at all the artists under "featured artists". ALL their featured artists have a live picture posted EXCEPT Michael...another hmmmm. The pic they have for him is the Immortal cover....and that pic looks like Carlo.

    I was curious about Sony's slogan because since 6/25/09 I've heard "believe" being used as a company slogan for a few companies...Sony, Avon, now Weight Watchers and you've probably heard/seen more. I see "believe" everywhere it seems. Curious what the significance of that might be.

    Deb

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    1. Chris Fischer sounds familiar but I don't know who he is. I think I heard Preston before and you're right. Nah-nah. Not Michael.

      That's VERY INTERESTING about Sony's slogan and I had seen that too. How do these people think we don't see this stuff?

      New World Religion . . . getting us primed? Never buying Avon again - Traitors!

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  6. Oh & thank you for removing the copy blocker...I couldn't copy & paste any links last night :o

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  7. Quando Latoya diz que murray, é o bode expiatorio entendo que ela quer dizer que ele está levando a culpa sozinho, o papel dele nessa historia é daquele que, não importa o que aconteça ele é culpado, e os DEMAIS CULPADOD ficam ocultos protejidos. Se Murray matou michael, penso que ha mandantentes
    Sobre os que lucram com a morte, voce tem total razão, refleti, pendo que voce está correta.
    Boniel amiga, almeijo tanto que Michael temha conseguido escapar, dezejo isso do fundo da minha alma, e não dubstimo a inteligencia dele, é que as vezes sinto ele estava sercado por viboras não tinha ha quem confiar. Espero estar errada

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      When Latoya says that murray is the scapegoat understand what she means he is taking the blame himself, his role in this story is that, no matter what happens he is guilty, and OTHER CULPADOD protejidos are hidden. Michael Murray was killed, I think there mandantentes
      About those who profit from death, you have full reason, reflect, Pendo that you are correct.
      Boniel friend, so much so that Michael almeijo temha escaped, dezejo it from the bottom of my soul, and not dubstimo the intelligence of it, is that sometimes I feel he was sercado by vipers ha had no trust. I hope I'm wrong

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    2. Some of the words in your post didn't translate very well so I don't know what they mean. Google must be losing it.

      I don't think he is guilty. A scapegoat can also be innocent. Someone that ANOTHER ENTITY puts onto place to take the blame for something they did. If Murray were guilty he would have been tried in a REAL court room and this was not even though SOME testifying may have believed it was. I covered all this during the trial.

      I don't know what you are trying to tell me in the last paragraph so I can't respond other than to say that all the all the allusions to the ILLUSION are not just for our health. However both sides are playing this for two different agendas.

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    3. Algumas das palavras em seu post não se traduziu muito bem, então eu não sei o que eles significam. Google deve perdê-la.

      Eu não acho que ele é culpado. Um bode expiatório também pode ser inocente. Alguém que outra entidade coloca em lugar de assumir a culpa por algo que eles fizeram. Se Murray era culpado, ele teria sido testado em uma sala do tribunal real, e isso não era mesmo que alguns testemunhando pode ter acreditado que era. Cobri tudo isso durante o julgamento.

      Eu não sei o que você está tentando me dizer no último parágrafo, então não posso responder que não quer dizer que todas as todas as alusões à ilusão não são apenas para a nossa saúde. No entanto ambos os lados estão jogando isso por duas agendas diferentes.

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  8. Bonnie,
    Red and black are also Michael's colours, so I think Jermaine wore them for that reason, nothing to do with the heretic Madonna.
    Secondly, I'm not convinced that Michael had any say in the 'This Is It' song being used. Wasn't it recorded in the 80's with a different title altogether? For me, it is just another one of Michael's discarded tracks being polished up to make a few $$$$. For me his previous albums will carry all the messages he wanted to tell us.

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    1. Hi Princess,

      I only pointed out the black and red colors because I believed Jermaine was bringing attention to it, not because he's a bad guy. (every one else was in shorts and casual clothes, wasn't he hot??? LOL!)

      Okay, let's take another look at this. A concert show that is called "This is It", that Michael (or his double, this is no way Michael) announces in London that "This is It, this is REALLY It", but he had no say in the use of this song?

      Again, we were TOLD this song was recorded in the 80's. We don't know that for sure. The person singing the song has a lot more mature voice then the one at the beginning going "one - two - three - foe". I don't believe "This is It" was a decades old discarded song any more then "This is It" concept was a decades old discarded concert concept. Aside from that, I agree with you. None of the "new" stuff is Michael.

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    2. Bonnie,
      You could be right of course. I wasn't suggesting that Jermaine wore those colors because he was a bad guy, but because they represent Michael. A visual nod to Michael.
      You could be right about the TII song too, it could have been planned to be used by Michael, but I still think somebody plucked it from obscurity to attach to the film only!!!
      BTW I found copies of some old messages from Karen Faye's Facebook, where she says she retouched the footage from TII AND they also altered his image e.g. widened his legs to look fatter(she did not do the legs, and said Michael would be horrified as his legs never looked like that). This could explain why Michael looks like a different person in different shots in the film. Not becasuwe they were doubles, but because they were covering up the truth.

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    3. KAREN said she retouched photos from TII? Do you remember the blog topics where I covered that? I SHOWED PEOPLE where there was definite evidence that they used the liquify tool! They gave Michael a pencil neck and it looked like he had an extra joint in his neck it was so pointy.

      So because Karen said she made him look fatter (instead of skinnier) you believe her? She's trying to implicate AEG in something, she advocates for TINI when they come out of the gate with all their prepared articles and propaganda THE VERY DAY HE DIES and . . . .

      NEITHER KAREN NOR THE TINI STALKER GIRLS have anything to say UNTIL JUNE 25TH.

      I also have copies of twitter posts from Karen PRE-JUNE 25TH talking about how great Michael looks.

      Given Karen's LYING during and after June 25th and the sudden about-face "he looks great, can't wait for the concert to start . . . . Oh, no, he could barely get up the stairs onto the state, he was freezing, he couldn't put two sentences together, he was rail thin, he looked terrible" . . . . It seems to me Karen and her "touch-up club" were trying to make him look THINNER not FATTER.

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  9. Dear Bonnie, I'm a Michael Jackson fan and I support some of the Jackson family. I support: Michael's 3 children Prince/Paris/Blanket. I support the mother Katherine Jackson, Janet Jackson, Rebbie Jackson, Rebbie's son Austin Brown & Rebbie's two daughters, I support Tito Jackson and his 3 sons "3T"......... It's amazing Rebbie is a grandmother now.
    But I'm not supportive of the father Joe Jackson, La Toya Jackson (she is manipulative I think) and Jermaine Jackson. Sorry but Jermaine's whole thing doesn't do it for me. Jermaine can sing and play bass guitar but he tries to be like Michael too much. At one time Jermaine and Michael were close, they are both spiritual people, back in the Jackson 5 days they were close, but that was a long time ago. Next to Michael, Jermaine was in fact the most popular member of the Jackson 5!
    Randy Jackson I'm not sure what to make of him? I like some of the things Randy Jackson says. Do you like Randy?
    I thought it was interesting what you said about "MuzikFactoryTwo" and her blog. What is her real name? Does she work for 'John Branca'? The TINI website is no longer about Michael Jackson anymore. I don't understand what happened to the TINI website why did they take the site down?
    This is what you said: "Ugggggghhh . . . you had to ask me about Muzik. Muzikfactory is an abusive individual. I still have all the emails she sent me, threatening me when I exposed TINI. She's abusive to the Jacksons and I blocked her off a LONG time ago (before the end of 2010). She is a member of TINI. She makes and breaks alliances but don't be fooled . . . they are all on the same side. They just appear to attack each other to keep the fans distracted."
    So Muzic Factory Two is on the same side as John Branca and Sony? The strange thing is Muzik Factory Two has said not nice stuff about Karen Faye. So I thought she hated Karen Faye and TINI?

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    1. Hi Anonymous - I support the Jackson family until I'm satisfied that they are not on Michael's side and I'm not satisfied with that. They've put out there enough times clues that they can't say much and when you see what's going on, it's for GOOD REASON. Justice will prevail and the truth will come out regardless of WHO'S side they are on. Just the fact they put out songs even as far back as "The Jacksons" albums trying to code to us what is going on is enough to convince me that they are not free to do what they want. And with the children now under their care, I'd rather them be safe.

      Jermaine does not try to be too much like Michael. I really don't see that at all. Joe told them when they were younger, "Do it like Michael!" So if that's true, Jermaine is just obedient, but I don't see that at all. Jermaine has his own voice and his own style and he most certainly does not dress like Michael (no loafers, no arm bands, no fedoras). This is what Karen Faye and some of the TINI people were putting out in hate speech two years ago. Don't buy it.

      Randy is the baby brother. He's cute. end of story. (hee-hee).

      I have no idea what Muzik's real name is. She was going by Yazmeen Carmen for a while and a few other names that escape me just now. I have a file on her but her job is basically just to cause distraction, make noise, heap abuse upon celestial beings, etc... (kidding on the last one).

      TINI is Sony backed. They've since dispersed and run their own cottage industries off Michael's name now. TINI's job was to attack the family and AEG. Only after people were seeing that they were ignoring Michael's "Sony Sucks" campaigns of the early 2000's did they change their website and add Sony and Branca. Two of the ex TINI members now write for Justice4some and TruthvsLies and some of THOSE people are also frequent posters at both the hoax forums and the TMZ forums. They're like vermin . . . all over the place.

      Karen Faye - She supported and got Samantha Degosson introduced to fans. Sam Degosson is also a TINI member or "was".

      Muzik doesn't say anything nice about anybody. They are paid to insult each other, cause little wars to keep fans distracted and divided. She does not hate Karen Faye and TINI. Muzik DEFENDED TINI, attacking me when I exposed them. I still have her correspondence.

      Hope that helps. It's confusing I know. Best bet is to listen to Michael. Most people that surrounded Michael are liars. Look at his history. Most of those that were on the "inside" when his family couldn't get to him are NOT GOOD PEOPLE.

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  10. Hi. Michael beeing too kind standing with a big smile on his face beside the doll, which look nothing like him. I guess he didn't wanna break their hearts. But I am pretty sure MJ is thinking, "This ugly doll doesn't even look like me." He was a perfectionist so I doubt he was satisfied with that doll. MJ said in Interviews that Billie Jean was about his brothers and Billie Jean represented the Groupies. But they told MJ at an early age that it is ok to lie if it benefits your career and your public relations. So you may be right that he was told to lie about that. But I don't get it. Why would he lie about that? But I respect your knowledge when it comes to analyse lyrics but . . .I don't know. . I'm confused about this one. I don't get it just yet. The last picture on the blog remind me of what his. bodyguard told the police. He was lying on his back with his arms extended outward from his body. My first thought was, Oh No he logged out, The Show Is Over, The End. Susanne

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    1. ROFLMBO!!!!! Oh, the doll! I was laughing! Michael probably thought that about MOST of his doubles (He doesn't even look like me).

      I can't even imagine being in the position where everyone wanted to copy me or my look (thank goodness for them!) That has to be quite unnerving even for people of high profile. Who knows how many wind-up dolls Sony has in the wings?

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  11. "Then sit there like a retard "TWIDDLING HIS THUMBS " knowing people are trying to kill him.

    LOL LOL LOL . . .ROFLMBO
    That was funny!
    I agree. MJ was a victim but at the same time he wasn't. He was a warrior, a smart one.

    MJ was in a lot of meetings from 2006 or was it 2007. What if he planned the whole thing in detail for years. I thought it was eerie when Paris told to Ellen that MJ rehearsed her and she learned to cry on the spot.
    But sometimes there are coincidences like that, seriously. I respect people who think MJ is dead, I respect people who think he is alive. But I have a hard time trying to understand people who think MJ sooner or later will pop up from nowhere to do a surprise tour. BAM! What planet are you from? You said what!! Susanne

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    1. Hi Susanne,

      Depends on what meetings you are talking about. In 2006 he had meetings and court cases/depositions. In 2007 more of the same. In 2008 more business meetings and more court cases. He signed the contract with AEG (supposedly) in Dec. of 2008.

      Yes Paris learned to cry on the spot and Jermaine said Michael was "in a safe place" and Jermaine said "he was no longer with us long before he arrived to the airport, i mean . . . before he arrived to the hospital and Latoya said "watch the Illusionist" . . . and people still don't get it. People can "coincedence" themselves right out of salvation if they are waiting for the Lord to send them an engraved invitation before they get it.

      I respect people's opinions. I don't respect people that try to bully others into their opinions. It's still a touchy subject with people.

      I don't believe Michael is going to pop up and do a tour. That's not what all this is about. (you said what? LOL!)

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  12. Bonnie MJ said to Teddy Riley that he was going to shock the world. Who know what MJ meant by saying that. I think if MJ is alive Dr.Murray know the truth. I also think that if MJ is dead Dr.Murray know the truth. But he will never let us know. That is my theory today. It may change tomorrow. Susanne

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    1. That wasn't Teddy Riley . . . that was a quote Riley took from an article where Wil.i.am was interviewed.

      I too believe Dr. Murray knows the truth. It's not Murray's job to let us know. Murray played his part (and it's probably not over yet with him). More to come.

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  13. If MJ ever lied to us. We must forgive him. He didn't do it to hurt or deceive anyone. If that is the case he did it to protect himself, people he loved or he was forced to do it or both. White lies. If we put ourself in his shoes it is understandable. IF he ever lied. Maybe he didn't. It doesn't matter. I will still love him no matter what. Susanne

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    1. I agree with you. Michael may have had to lie to the press with the threats of various degrees from his handlers over his head, but his songs are the truth. Those songs tell us that if he did lie, why he was made to. Just watched the Diane Sawyer interview again tonight. Michael is no pushover. He may want to please and want to trust people initially and give them the benefit of the doubt first time, but he can see people coming. Those looks he gave her, OMG . . . Still stops my heart.

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    2. Hi Bonnie. I watched that Interview a million times. Do you mean MJ gave Diane "if looks could kill"? Diane is so annoying to me in that Interview. Her questions to MJ is so disrespectful. And she interupt Lisa several times during this Interview. Why does she ask Lisa Questions and then doesn't let her finish her answers. And then on top of it all she claims to be a serious journalist! (She said what!!)


      Lisa said in her first Oprah Interview that she met MJ before MJ's Oprah Interview. During MJ's Oprah Interview he says that he has a relationship with Brooke Shields. I guess MJ must have been busy having to girlfriends at the same time, hee hee.

      Did you read the Simulchat Interview from August 17, 1995? In the beginning of the Interview MJ says, - Can I say hello to a couple of my friends? Hello Lisa Marie. . .Hello Paul McCartney. . .Hello Mrs. Disney. . .Hello to my friends in Gary Indiana.
      I thought to myself, Lisa Marie, Hello friend?!
      Later Bruce Ross ask: - How has your marriage to Lisa Marie changed your life?
      Michael: - I think I find it more fun to appreciate what family really means. The fact that even though there were ten of us Jackson's...we were always doing things at different times, and I'm really learning the real meaning of love. Giving 100 procent of yourself all the time. Putting up with one another. So far it has been pretty joyous.
      Sam: - A story in the UK press claims a quickie divorce on the way. Is it true?
      Michael: - Never believe tabloid garbage. Don't waste your time, don't waste your money. No, it's not true. If you hear it from my lips, then you can believe it. But no, it's not true.

      This was in August 17 1995 and they divorced in Januari of 1996, I THINK IT WAS. 5 months after the UK press claimed that a divorce was on the way, they actually divorced.
      What is your opinion on this Bonnie?
      Susanne

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    3. Hi again. One more thing on the Diane saywer subject. Did you watch the Interview she did with Lisa after the divorce? And she was sitting there during the MJ Interview and claimed that she was a serious journalist!!! OH. . .MY. . .GOD!!! I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EARS!!!
      The serious journalist Diane Saywer says: - Lisa why did you marry Michael Jackson?!! Michael Jackson?!!, Michael Jackson?!!, Michael Jackson?!! What on earth were you thinking?!!!
      And Lisa goes like: - I know, I know. . . I hoped that you had forgot about that.

      I wonder if MJ watched that Interview? I hope he didn't! !!! Who gave them the right to treat him like that?
      Susanne

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    4. Hi Anonymous - You said - "Hello Paul McCartney. . .Hello Mrs. Disney. . .Hello to my friends in Gary Indiana.
      I thought to myself, Lisa Marie, Hello friend?!"

      ...... They weren't divorced yet, so yes he could have said "friends" even though it should have been evidence to him by then that she was no friend. Michael playing the game?

      Lisa Marie trashed him in every single interview after that divorce (I don't think there ever was really a divorce, they weren't really married).

      No Diane Sawyer is a piece of trash who does the Illuminati's bidding. Very few of those people are REALLY journalists. A Journalist by a true definition of the word, researches and records facts. What Diane Sawyer and the likes of her on the news ACTUALLY are, are actors. An actor is one who projects fiction convincingly.

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  14. Regarding when SONY began using "make.believe" (this is the kind of thing that CAN'T be coincidence - can it?)

    According to the link below, "Berlin, Germany, September 2, 2009 - Sony Corporation (Sony) today announced "make.believe" (make dot believe), a new Group-wide brand message that unites Sony's communication initiatives across electronics, games, movies, music, mobile phones and network services. The introduction of "make.believe" symbolizes Sony's spirit of creativity and innovation and marks the first time the Company has introduced a unified brand message encompassing both entertainment and electronics."

    This was "announced" in Germany on September 2, 2009. The news was published at the web link below on September 3, 2009. Which also just HAPPENS to be the same day that "Micheal Jackson" was "buried" at Forest Lawn, Glendale, in California. September 3, 2009.

    http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200909/09-100E/

    http://articles.cnn.com/2009-08-21/entertainment/jackson.burial_1_sony-pictures-michael-jackson-statement?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/michael-jackson-burial-private-finale-king-pop/story?id=8476277#.TzWbqvnTWCk

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    1. That is excellent work Linda. Thank you very much for posting that and with the links!

      Agenda 21 - Entertainment Style!

      Anyone here still believe Sony isn't trying to bring SOMETHING back to life???

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  15. Just a thought. We are all familiar with the expression "Being at the wrong place at the wrong time". And if you have such bad luck it will make you look guilty even if you are innocent. Have you ever been in a situation were you have thought to yourself, "If I tell the truth no one will believe me"? I have. It is very frustrating. Still it is easy to judge others. It is like we never learn from our lessons in life. I hope Dr.Murray is not in those shoes. But one thing is for sure. Dr.Murray was the one who bought all the propofol. Susanne

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    1. Susanne said - "ave you ever been in a situation were you have thought to yourself, "If I tell the truth no one will believe me"?"


      ......... Yeah, every time I type up a new blog topic.! Murray is on hold until the "other" court case comes up. Personally I'm a little ticked right now. You know there are people planning garbage all around us and people in the entertainment industry just helping them do it. I just wonder how people like Maddona (yeah I know I spelled it wrong) are going to expect to be able to keep their lifestyle with 80% of the people who buy their garbage are dead?

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    2. Murray is on hold until the 'other' court case comes up? What other court case? I must have missed this.

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    3. @Truejustice - The appeal. There is also the AEG Live civil case coming up on September (again with the September thing).

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  16. Ugh, they DO fake him big time. That Forever Dangerous
    tribute seems to be stuffed with fake MJs. Don't know
    about others, but it upsets me a lot.
    Well, guess like those hundreds of "Elvises" we're getting tons
    of "MJs" now. Tradition, so to speak.

    I think Michael always had a premonition... He knew what's
    coming, but did he know details? Was he able to give precise
    explanations, meanings to those images and feelings he was receiving? That's my concern. That "I'm gonna end like your father", was it just a feeling and he knew no details or dates..
    I mean he was channeling whatever he was channeling, he had
    feelings and ideas were coming about what he has to say in a song, but was he able to explain it to himself or was he just
    writing it down there, without fully realizing what he just received [this happens].
    Well, of course he did realize, but to what extent, how
    accurate was his premonition each time. I know that he knew
    2003 accusations will be there, but still he was truly frustrated
    and maybe even shocked this actually took place. So he didn't know how hard it will be maybe. Ok, I'm just blathering to myself here.

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  17. Anonymous - I'm not sure how precise Michael's premonitions were. If Michael was inside the pinnacle of the Illuminati, he knew their plans probably more than some of our government officials. Michael has a couple of songs where he sings about being chosen and the songs before "Cry", it wasn't for something good. If it weren't for the Bible and using that to help stay centered in this MADNESS I would be going nuts. Sometimes I wonder if I am.

    Zooming out and looking at the big picture Michael was in a major battle for his soul. But Michael took on the bigger fight . . . the fight for OURS. Someone posted somewhere (or in email I forget) that Michael may have been chosen to prepare the way for Christ's return, caught up by God when the devil wanted to use Michael's light to gather people to him.

    I know what the Bible says will happen. It's the in between that I keep getting entangled with because Michael wanted to help people stay UNTANGLED when the time came and I feel if I don't stay on this blog trying to UNTANGLE that message from the lies, I will not only disappoint Michael I will disappoint God.

    Sometimes I cannot even believe what I am seeing. Madonna is only the crust on top of the surface of what is going to be coming our way.

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  18. In the Vid below, Madonna interviewed about the SB Show : "there was such a feeling of love & unity there" :

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/10/madonna-mia-middle-finger/#.TzYx5cVZ7pA

    Ugh !

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      yeah, love and unity? I think we now misinterpret "love"
      completely! She gonna say what Michael would say.
      Love and unity we had in 1993, but this, 2012 one, love?
      God help us all if this is "love" now.
      [though it's on TMZ, so I'm not sure she said anything of that
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    2. Line and Anonymous I am working on a blog about this.

      Madonna and her "love and unity" and even her comment about "it almost made me cry" is so far from the truth. This is stolen from her "Michael-wanna-be" and when I heard this it made me realize how pathetic she really is.

      Madonna is not even her own person anymore and I will post on here about that in a future blog. She is trying to fill Michael's shoes and sorry for her, but she disappears in them. This is just wishful thinking on her part.

      You can't receive love from others unless you are able to feel it for others and she doesn't.

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    3. Madonna = "And every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one, who would dance on the floor in the round".

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  19. Anonymous - if you hear that Video, she said it.. unless it's a fake voice : only TMZ knows. But from Madonna's mouth, in particular after the SB Show, it wouldn't surprise me. Right : she uses & distorts Michael's message & creativity for a somber agenda & will unfortunately spread the damaging illusion further. Pity for the youth.

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  20. Bonnie do you think it is true that they have over 100 hours of rehearsal footage? I mean as greedy as Sony and company are wouldn't they have used more than one our of it, if that was the case. They could have made a lot more money. 100 hours is a lot of footage and a whole lot of money. It doesn't make sense to me. Susanne

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    1. This was a big topic of conversation toward the end of 2010. Yes I believe there is a LOT MORE footage then what little we have seen. I think Sony as more that they are not releasing (because they didn't have time to make him sick enough looking in all the frames of the video), and I think AEG has some stored away somewhere I'm sure, for legal purposes.

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  21. Hi Bonnie,
    This is about 'soul snatching': One Illuminati belief is that they have managed to design equipment that can catch the soul of a dying person. This capability will play a role in the reign of the anti-Christ. When the Anti-Christ dies, his soul will be captured and he will be resurrected with demons animating the body. When a very high ranking Illuminati adept goes berserk, the Illuminati will insure that they preserve the soul of the man by killing him with equipment that is portrayed in the recent movie Lord of Illusion. This is a mask-brace that fits over the portals of the head and then is screwed into the head to capture the soul as it tries to escape the dying body. Then demons are called in to live off the soul matter.

    Normally, according to Illuminati occult knowledge, the demons can only live a short time within a body, but by the mask-brace capture of a body’s soul, the demons can inhabit a body for a longer length of time and create the walking dead. This is that "line between heaven and hell" that the movie refers to. The Illuminati believe that the highest gift they can give Lucifer are captured souls. They will place souls into jars. This is the highest most secret magic of the Illuminati. Notice, that during the Lord of Illusion movie, jars are smashed during the ritual where a soul is captured.

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    1. Anonymous -

      Most people who believe the Bible do not believe in soul "snatching" because you cannot take an unwilling soul. God let Satan have dominion over the earth for a short period of time, but not over us as individuals. We have to volunteer to denounce God or voluntarily "sell our souls" before the devil can have power over us. Otherwise the devil could have just "taken Jesus over" instead of spending 40 days and nights UNSUCCESSFULLY trying to tempt him.

      Jesus told us in the gospels that God gave us that same power to rebuke him IN HIS NAME.

      Movies are movies. Although there is an element OF TRUTH in them, we can't believe everything they put out message wise.

      You can capture a soul through intrique, temptation or having a person give it up willingly through torture, but snatching them unawares from a person, the devil does not have the power to do that.

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  22. “That nasty boogie bugs me, but somehow how it has drugged me”
    "Boogie's got me in a super trance”

    To me, “boogie” can mean one of 3 things. Either “getting down” on the dance floor, the Boogie Man or ... a softer, nicer version of boogers. ... LOL ...

    Ok, seriously. Sounds like the evil one they are singing about, masking it behind the dance meaning. Clever.

    Billie Jean had always had me scratching my head wondering why Michael would be singing a song about a girl trying to trap him. It makes a whole lot more sense now!

    I ran across an interesting biblical summary about Michael "struggling against the occult system". Eyes are opening, word is spreading. Some highlights:

    * In Billie Jean he sounds like he was talking about Satan.
    * Then there's the Knight's Templar which consisted of 40 Jesuits as in "40 knights.”
    * So take my strong advice: just remember to always think twice" and in the background you hear MJ's distant voice saying "don't think twice" and then he screams over it "do think twice.
    * In the song "Another part of me" he says "we takin over, we have the truth... this is our planet, you're one of us" then he goes on to say: "the planets are lining up... they're all in line waiting for you... you're just another part of me." Which sounds exactly like the etymology of Nimrod. In the second verse he says "the final message we'll bring to you" Albert Pike says that when the NWO is established, the pure doctrine of Lucifer will be revealed to what remains of mankind after depopulation.
    * in Geraldo's interview he says "just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the Gospel." Which sounds like a warning of satanic deception; Paul said there would be "doctrines of demons" that would lead masses astray.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110925191535AACpfHe

    There’s some interesting insight there, hope you read it and comment, Bonnie. I’d like to know if you think his examples line up with the bible.

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    1. TRUTH2BTOLD said "Sounds like the evil one they are singing about, masking it behind the dance meaning. Clever. "

      The Blame It On The Boogie Wikipedia says the Song was co-authored by Mick & David Jackson & Elmar Krohn (no family link with the Jackson5).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame_It_on_the_Boogie

      Rival versions were recorded by other artists but the Jacksons' one in 1978 was an instant Hit. Now did Michael, at such a young age, really amend the Song's text with a subliminal message in it ? Could be after all : Michael & siblings were so young then but all had in 1978 an already long experience of showbiz & its perversions. Your approach is very subtile : after all, Michael was taught by his mother Katherine the reading of the Bible since his early days & he continued himself diligently all his adult life. Too bad for I preferred my version of a fun/funky Song only : ignorance makes life less depressing at times :o)

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    2. Truthbtold - Google won't let me reply to YOU even though Line did, so I have to do this as a separate comment (Google is really starting to tick me off with this BOGUS comment format, it STINKS!)

      You said:

      ""the planets are lining up... they're all in line waiting for you... you're just another part of me." Which sounds exactly like the etymology of Nimrod."

      I don't know where this person is getting this. The Bible actually says very little about Nimrod, but he got blamed for the Tower of Babel when it actually says nothing of the sort (him building it). Other Hebrew writings outside of the Bible tout Nimrod as being AGAINST the tower of Babel and even though he founded "Babylon" did not agree with what they were turning it into and left Babylon in disagreement over the tower.

      The Bible tells us that Nimrod was "a great hunter before the Lord". That doesn't sound like someone who was cursed to me. We covered this back in the summer.

      The first posting on that link Truthbetold, I agree with most of their theories and most of them have been covered here before too . . . the only thing I don't agree with because I cannot find biblical support for it, is Nimrod.

      ........

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    3. Line - On your post about "Blame it on the Boogie" I agree, but we have to remember that the Jacksons are not the only ones that have been sucked into this nightmare behind the industry. They sang it because they agreed with it.

      Other than that if we DON'T know what is behind the industry yes . . . it is a fun, lighthearted sounding song.

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  23. About Murray knowing the truth...

    I know people keep saying Murray must know a lot and should spill the beans but I’m not so sure he has many beans to spill. The more I learn and think about it, the more I believe he doesn’t know much. Because, if Michael learned anything while under the ‘elite’s’ tutelage (he actually learned massive amounts), it was how compartmentalizing information plays a huge part in their success of enslaving us.

    I don’t think any one person would know Michael’s entire plan, just bits and pieces here and there - forcing people to come together to see a bigger picture. Or, it can be like that ‘pass it on’ game of gossip where all along the way interpretations change what was actually said. It looks like it’s both.

    Michael is too smart to confide too much in one person. He would also be well aware of how dangerous it would be for any one to know too much of his plan. Only tell enough for each to carry out their role - like a well choreographed dance. That’s really the only way I can see how it would work so well.

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    1. You make a good point about the compartmentalization of people, but would Michael have done this to others without their okay? I don't see him doing that, nor would he put someone unwillingly into the position of being the fall guy. I believe that Murray volunteered for this. The reason I believe this is because of something things that were said by him both during this Youtube. message before he was arrested, and some things he said on his Documentary that showed up as search terms ON THIS BLOG BEFORE the trial even started.

      Yes, I believe many people involved in this do not even know they are playing into Michael's hands, if that is how he set it up. But Murray? I don't think Michael would have done that to someone unless they volunteered.

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    2. I didn’t say it would be without people's okay or that Murray didn’t volunteer.

      Murray is playing a key role so would have to know something and sure seems to be playing his part well. I just don’t think Murray knows as much as many people seem to believe. Sure, he would know his own role, maybe even some of the hows and whys. But I don’t believe he knows who all the other people involved are and their roles, how it fits together or the intricacies of Michael’s plan.

      In other words, if Murray told everything he knows, I still don’t think we would have a complete picture.

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  24. Bonnie, yesterday, Whitney Houston has died. She was a friend of Michael and Jermaine, we pray for her soul.
    God bless you,
    Whitney

    Lisa

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    1. I was gone all day yesterday with my husband and did not hear about this until I talked to Micheline late last night on the phone.

      This is a crime. She was only 48 and they used her horribly! She was a good person that probably did not agree to sell her soul and they hounded her and played upon her weaknesses. Bobby Brown was probably her handler first, husband second.

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  25. Truth, I forgot, I liked your link "Was Michael Jackson fighting against the occult system ?" Occult, definitely. Badly it took his passing (or whatever disappearance) for us to open our eyes not only on his own life situation but on so much more worldwide.

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    1. Thank you Line.

      So true. Sad we are so thick-headed.

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  26. Truthbtold2all
    It make a lot of sense what you are saying. MJ was smart and I think you are too.
    MJ said that some of his songs fell into his lap. That he did not wrote them. They were alredy out there and came to him. I it almost like God is talking to us through some of his songs, like keep the faith, history, man in the mirror and other songs. Susanne

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    1. Yes. Very much so Susanne . . . Michael heard these songs given to him. God uses our unique gifts that he gave each of us, to put them to work for his glory . . . something the devil cannot do.

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    2. "Man in the mirror" was not written by MJ. It was written and composed by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett.

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    3. Elena,

      We know. Don't you think it's weird that Michael has said DOZENS of times that he wrote a 100 or more songs for EACH ALBUM, yet these landmark songs of his are listed with OTHER WRITERS???

      Do you think Michael made it a practice to give credit to others he worked with just to get the songs past Sony to get it on the album???

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    4. Could be...i guess we'll never know for sure

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    5. Could be...I guess we'll never know for sure.

      But it does sound very personal. That's how I know that others were credited for this song. I was very surprised when I saw that someone else had supposedly written it since it DID sound like it was HIS song.

      (eхcuse my grammar if I make a mistake...English is not my first language and I had no practice for some time now)

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    6. Thank you Susanne.

      Bonnie said:
      "Do you think Michael made it a practice to give credit to others he worked with just to get the songs past Sony to get it on the album???”

      What an amazingly humble, selfless and caring man, an honorable example.

      Elena - I think we already know. Even if we didn’t, we would...one day.

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  27. OMG, Whitney Houston is dead!...???

    This really is getting to be too much.

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  28. Princess Glam
    Oprah has always said that you put on like 5kg when you are on TV and film. If that is true and if the fact that they widened his legs is true. That would mean that he was a skeleton in person. It is a shame that truth is such a dirty word. Susanne

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  29. Many people have told us that MJ looked like a skeleton before he died including Jermaine. Latoya and Michael Bush said that he was bone thin. In the autopsy photo he doesn't look like a skeleton or bone thin to me. He looks thin but not like a skeleton. I saw a picture from 1996 or 1997 when he is onstage doing earth song. You can see his ribs on his chest. He is very thin. And that was 13-14 years before he died. You couldn't see his ribs on the autopsy photo. I know that you will say that it is not MJ on the autopsy photo. But I am thinking if they gonna lie why don't they make sure the lies and the photo match? Susanne

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    1. Jermaine actually said he looked healthy and was showing off his "six pack". Jermaine said " I don't know how he could go from that to what I saw in the hospital" within a few weeks and indeed . . . I don't either. Even if you starved him, he would still have flab left over from muscle.

      Susanne, I have covered this before and showed pictures that Michael was INDEED DIFFERENT SIZES AND WEIGHTS through the three days of rehearsal footage that was released and I showed people HOW THIS WAS DONE USING PHOTOSHOP.

      I'm kind of sick of people coming in and posting this bullcrap that Karen FAye said when she's already proven to people she is a liar and the photos were touched up.

      You make a good point where you said why don't the photos and the lies match . . .

      Certain people that like to assume Karen Faye is telling the truth to sneak in an agenda is not going to see her posts here any longer if she keeps it up.

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  30. SAD NEWS :
    WHITNEY HOUSTON died at the Berverly Hills Hotel LA at 48 only. Beautiful woman with a GREAT voice. Drugs ? RIP Whitney.

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    1. They haven't said yet, Line, but I bet it will be a convenient "cause of death" for them to conjure up for the public. Bobby Brown did a good job keeping her drugged up (probably through food like they did with Latoya", so they could slowly kill her. When they found they had used her up and her singing voice was affected, they saw fit to throw her away.

      signed . . . VERY ANGRY

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    2. I'm angry and upset as well. :(

      Whitney was my favourite female singer. I had this "similarities with La Toya" feling as well after learning everything I know now, but I thought I was looking too much into things...

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    3. You said : "they saw fit to throw her away" - Could be Bonnie. Like Michael ? I know you don't want to hear that. You are right : her marriage to Bobby Brown in 1992 began her end. This man (& who else in the industry) removed her pride then & tore her down with the years. Like Michael ? Whitney to me was a kind & very beautiful person, with a world class & a unique singing talent..& glamour without the vulgarity of other Gagas or Madonnas coming billions miles behind her for the talent & presence ! Today on various TV channels I hear on Whitney about "her sulfurous past" or "her scandals". No : in spite of her past painful drug or alcohol periods, that was NOT Whitney Houston inside. I don't want to get obsessed by charging the evil showbiz all the time but their hideous mask is anyhow falling too obviously : they work so insidiously during many years to destroy their victims (suitably responsible for their own death) &... no one is charged in the end.

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    4. @Elena - Oh, no, there is a definite pattern here. I don't think for one Minute Whitney wanted to kill herself. She had too much life in her.

      @Line - I will be doing something for Whitney tonight. I don't know if the Jacksons were close with her, but when you look at the types of songs Whitney sang, she had the positive energy of a female version of Michael. She had a lovely, good heart and spirit. I believe what they did to her they did to Michael, only she wasn't as strong as Michael to withstand the abuse and the isolation.

      I'm flipping angry so I have to cool off/down before I work on this. It will be done later tonight. Whitney is only a year older than me and to me, she was like an innocent that refused to turn it over to the bad guys and they drilled her down and down and down until that was it.

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    5. guess what . . . Google didn't delete my post. It's above this one, so I'm deleting the angry one . . . (puts head down between shoulders and walks away sheepishly) . . . bye.

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    6. Bonnie, I know how you feel about Whitney. I am still in shock, There is something I want to send you so you can put it in your blog. This is so heartbreaking. Be on the lookout for it.

      P

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  31. not to add to sadness of some, but that's exactly what i'm
    about to do, please dear Bonnie don't post that if found inappropriate,
    as it's just todays emotions.

    Such a devastating day.
    I believed she will be back in great form, but...
    It's like a smack on the back of the head actually.
    I cried a lot yesterday, couldn't stop, the feeling of big Sorrow
    was pouring on me since morning, thought it's because of Michael
    and some stupid sad dreams I had.
    And at night [here was night] sad sad news arrived. She didn't
    make it. Gone one night.

    You know, i think Michael won't be back. He is with God. In Heaven.
    Protected. Among equals. Hopefully, he guards his kids now, as best ever guardian Angel.
    Maybe he's an Angel who welcomes all the dying children and walks
    them to Heaven. Like to Neverland gates.

    And they are doing fakes, but they are fake fakes, who won't be
    taken as "real deal" - it's not the plan anymore. They will have stages
    flooded with fakes, all dancing mimicking him, and people will be happy
    to pay for that travesty. They do already.

    These wars, I mean real material wars, Middle East, are on and
    can't be stopped. We are trying, but that machine is unstoppable.
    They had it all planned ages ago [not a secret, never was!] and
    they won't change their mind.
    Michael's fight can't be won, this world is about destruction
    and sadness. We are. Gosh Michael I'm so sorry back then when I
    watched "Earth Song" and later "Cry", I thought you can't be serious,
    were just acting.
    Nowadays teen would say "oh, that was corny". Hope you can forgive
    my young insensitivity and distrust back then.
    But you really meant it, all of it, you lived it, deeply.
    I feel what you felt, and am so powerless. If you couldn't do it and
    many mighty men and women before you, how can we. It can't be stopped.
    I don't know what can be done.

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    1. Don't let the death of Whitney cause you to loose the Faith. Michael's fight is GOING to be won because it is God's fight. Don't let them do this to you. They don't have any power you don't give them. Michael is counting on you . . . try to be strong, I know it's hard. Stay in prayer for strength. ♥

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    2. ANONYMOUS : Very sweet & touching comment you made on Whitney & Michael. Here I join Bonnie in her encouragement that you do not get too overwhelmed by sad emotions. God Bless you.

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  32. Let's keep Whitney Houston and her family in our prayers. This is so shocking! Whitney and Michael Jackson were very good friends and have known each other for years. She did two duets with Jermaine Jackson before she broke out on her own. I know the Jackson family are crushed by the news of her death because she was like family to them. Randy has tweeted that he is devastated. I am still trying to wrap my brain around this.

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    1. Thank you TrueJ. Was she like family? Seems like the handlers kept her pretty well cordoned off while she was "married" to Bobby Brown. Her marraige to him sounds almost like Latoya's marraige to Gordon Brown. (Wonder if they are related! Despite the difference in skin tone).

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  33. Someone posted this about three blog entries back (about Michael and Revelation). They said:

    "Be careful your GOD is not Michael fulfilling his anti-Christ mission. Read your bible then educate yourself to modern day findings. It all fits!"

    They are right . . . it all fits, BUT it fits more than one way.

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  34. Hi Bonnie. I think you misunderstood me. I meant why did MJ say, can I say hello to my friend Lisa Marie? Why didn't he say, can I say hello to my (lovely) wife Lisa Marie? Susanne

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    1. Yes, I did catch that. I knew what you meant♥♥♥ :o)

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  35. Bonnie said: Truthbtold, the pain in the butt has been removed.

    Why am I still here then?
    Susanne

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  36. Bonnie,.... I know you don't care much for TMZ but check out about Whitney. Article about the drowning. Read the comments...it was the last comment when I was on there...#47-Canook. Sounds about right. Or at least makes more sence then the other comments

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  37. Dear Bonnie,

    This is a video of whitney, same pattern, same people, listen and hear what they did too her father to get to her. It took them 10 yrs to get her........interview took place in 2002. Shameful!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crJ7Gs8K0f8

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    1. NIta I'm going to repost this on the new blog since it is about Whitney.

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  38. Bonnie, when we talked tonight I mentioned Whitney's daughter Bobbi Kristina was taken to the hospital. Apparently she was taken twice - last night and again this morning (TMZ link below - I know, I'm not fond of TMZ either). I can imagine what this poor girl is going through. But what I found disturbing was the fact that she fought with the police last night, who would not let her see her mother's body! Bobbi Kristina is 18 - a legal adult. Why would they deny her that right? Is there something they're trying to hide? This is why I am suspicious about Whitney's untimely death. Did something happen to her that might show visible signs of foul play?

    Remember Anna Nicole Smith's son, Daniel, who died shortly after arriving in the Bahamas to see her? He was investigating her lawyer-fiend, Howard K. Stern for drugging her, and the poor kid ends up dead, right there in Anna Nicole's hospital room, just hours after she gave birth! Then Anna Nicole dies. It was clear that Howard K. Stern was a filthy handler who pumped Anna with drugs to keep his cash cow under control.

    And I believe there is more to this tragedy with Whitney than meets the eye. There was no valid reason to deny her daughter's request to see her mother, and that's why she went ballistic with the police. My God, it was probably the last chance she would ever have to see her mother! If there is a reason to cover up the real cause of her death, I would not hold my breath waiting for the results of the autopsy report. This is such a tragedy - there are no words.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-suicidial/#.TziV5F7qUxB

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  39. Bonnie, read this excerpt from the TMZ article about finding Whitney in the tub:

    "According to our sources, her body was VERY COLD and the bodyguard attempted CPR. That's when hotel security was called."

    Does anyone know how long it takes for a body to turn cold post mortem? I thought this was odd, as the assistant claims to have checked on Whitney after noticing she was in the bathroom for over an hour. That is not very long. Even if Whitney had drowned just moments after going into the bathroom, we can assume she wasn't taking an ice bath and that the water must have been warm. How long was Whitney really dead in the tub before being found? Or, did she die much earlier and was later placed in the bath to make it appear she drowned?

    Call me a cynic, but when Brett Ratner asked Michael what advice he would give young people starting in the business, I will never forget the look on his face when he said, "don't trust anyone." Michael knew first hand what the system does to good people. And with all we know of the corruption in Hollywood and how it abuses artists, including child stars, I don't trust the media with the truth as far as I can throw them. And I would like to throw all of them off a cliff!

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    1. Micheline on both your posts, I can't . . . I can't answer right now. I want to throw up. God! Stop this!!!! I am so SICK OF PEOPLE BEING KILLED!!!!!

      There are no cliffs where I live so how is the terrain in your state?

      I don't have anything else to say right now. Sorry

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  40. Bonnie, I know how you're feeling right now...about as sick as I am over this! And I hate to discuss Michael's "death," but there's an interesting point to make regarding Whitney.

    According to the testimony at Murray's trial, didn't the EMS say that Michael was still warm to the touch when they arrived at Carolwood? I believe Latoya said the same thing when she saw Michael later at the hospital after he was declared dead, which was 2:26pm. There was also speculation that Michael could have expired much earlier that morning than Murray claims before he called 911 at 12:05pm. If we're dealing with a time line starting with when Michael "died" to when paramedics got to him, he was still warm after at least one hour, perhaps more than an hour. If we expand the time line to when Michael arrived at the hospital, he was still warm according to Latoya.

    So...what does that say about the bodyguard's claim that Whitney was "very cold" (algor mortis) after only an hour or so in a tub? The link below is on post mortem forensics, but here's a section that made me sit up and take notice:

    "If the body feels:

    Warm and not stiff: Not dead more than three hours
    Warm and stiff: Dead between 3 and 8 hours
    Cold and stiff: Dead between 8 and 36 hours
    Cold and not stiff: Dead more than 36 hours"

    The last two entries - whether Whitney's body was stiff or not, if she was very cold, the above chart indicates she would have been dead at least 8 hours. I didn't read anywhere that Whitney was stiff when she was taken out of the tub, and you would expect the bodyguard to mention something like that. If she was still flexible, then that is even more frightening and sinister, since it implies she could have been dead for far longer than eight hours!

    If the chart is reliable, there is NO WAY Whitney was in the bathroom or the tub for eight hours! Her assistant stated that Whitney was in the bathroom for just over an hour. She didn't answer the knock at the door, so the assistant walked in and screamed, and the bodyguards pulled her out of the tub. Whitney was "very cold." How interesting! Are we on to something here? Dear God, I hope not!

    http://www.studyworld.com/basementpapers/papers/stack12_14.html

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    1. Micheline,

      Thank you very much for posting this information. I referenced that for the post to Emily below! Absolutely right . . . dead MORE than 8 hours and the speedy way in which the autopsy was done (Toxicology on Michael took weeks!) and flown home to New Jersey.

      Before she is even HOME, Clive Davis and Sony are upping prices on her albums and making plans to rape her legacy.

      Yeah JUST LIKE MIKE YOU CREEPS! Who do you think you are fooling?

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  41. Line said, "According to the testimony at Murray's trial, didn't the EMS say that Michael was still warm to the touch when they arrived at Carolwood?"

    I said: According to an MTV online article:

    "Senneff also alleged that there were inconsistencies in Murray's claim that he called 911 immediately, given the fact that when the EMTs arrived and attempted CPR, Jackson's skin was "very cool to the touch" and his eyes dilated. When asked if he witnessed any signs of life in Jackson, Senneff said, "No, I did not."

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1671838/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-trial-emt-arrival.jhtml

    Makes one wonder how long MJ was dead. Same problem.

    Emily

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    1. Emily you have a point and I was just talking about the very same thing to someone yesterday. Reports that Whitney's daughter was not allowed to see her mother's body, inconsistent recall on who actually walked in and found her and got her out of the tub, what her body temperature was like and reports of a body temperature inconsistent for someone who's only been in the tub (of presumably warm water graduating cooler) for a little over an hour. - Same stuff as Michael.

      So you know some of the thoughts that are running through my head right now.

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  42. hmm bonnie i like this post has me thinking........ real hard ...damn you not playing.

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