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Michael Jackson Justice: Could This Be Why Michael Left the Church?

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The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael's story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".

Friday, June 1, 2012

Could This Be Why Michael Left the Church?

The Resurrection Part 2
It's Closer Than You Think
 A Drawing by Michael back in the 1980's




I had a dream this morning.  It was a quiet dream.  I was walking down a dirt road with a man I did not recognize.  He was maybe ten years older than me.  He had darker, short hair with grey in it.  He was wearing a very white dress shirt but no tie.  The collar was bigger than the styles you usually see today.  The first two buttons from the collar were open and the buttons at the cuffs were open, giving the sleeves a rather robe type appearance. 

His pants were dress pants in white linen specked with hints of black or grey in the threads. They looked very airy and comfortable.  He was wearing loafers which were either dark brown or black and they looked worn.  The dust of the road was on them.

As we walked the man was quiet.  His hands were clasped behind his back and he walked as though we were on deep thought.  He almost looked as if he were concentrating.

To either side of the road we walked was nothing.  You could see forever.  All the fields had been harvested, but it was still warm.  I didn’t know what was there before, it was cut so close to the ground.  Wheat?  Maybe hay.

As we walked a sign came into vision.  As we got closer I saw it was one of those green signs that tells you how close you are to the next town.  I don’t recall the name of the town, but I do recall the “8 miles”.  I turned to my companion.

“I just heard from Eddie”, he said to me quietly.  “Only six miles to go . . .”

I looked at the sign and felt I needed to correct him, “you mean eight don’t you?”

He tilted his head to the side and looked me in the eye.  I replied “The sign says eight.”

The man said to me calmly “Eddie only has six miles to go”.  And he smiled, almost in anticipation of seeing him.

I looked back at the sign, then looked behind me.  I looked back at my walking companion.  What was he telling me?  Six miles?  Six MONTHS?

I looked down at the dirt we were walking on.  It was powdery.  No moisture.  I turned back to my companion.

Does his family know?  We need to tell people!  Warn them!

My companion caught my thoughts.  He smiled with almost a fatherly smile, “Eddie’s fine.  I wouldn’t worry about him.  It’s the others you have to worry about.”  He cocked one eyebrow, “They don’t know.”

I looked at him and without speaking thought “that’s what I mean!”  But I didn’t say that because I heard before he said it what came next.

He said, “they don’t know they’re already dead.” 

I woke up with those words in my head.

I don’t want to tell my husband this dream.  I’m afraid to.  The thought I woke up with was that my husband’s cousin was going to Heaven but there were people in his family that were not and they needed to be told.

Many of my husband’s family are Catholic.  That doesn’t mean they are not going to Heaven.  I don’t make that call and neither does the Catholic church.  But many that attend churches don’t know they worship or revere the doctrine in place of God.  They don’t know that doctrine actually keeps them from the personal relationship.

How do you tell people that have grown up with the belief ingrained in them that their faith has been in men that have misdirected that faith?  It’s almost like telling you that your family has lied to you all your life.

Is there a way of telling people without demonizing their faith, that they themselves need to take control of their relationship with God and not leave in the hand of those who have been taught to deceive?


Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"

Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;"

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ."

And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:"

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"


Is it safe to say the Bible called this one?  How about Michael and Marlon Jackson?


Where Rockets fly and Research lies
In progress to become
But what of men of flesh and blood
We turn our backs on life?


Every bit of what they plan to do is in the Bible.  Every bit of it.  Right down to the last false prophet, the last false brethren, the last infiltrator, the last “schemes and plans”.

Every bit of news that’s coming out both false and true, both deception and promotion is proving God’s Word true.  Every single one.

The thorn in the thicket plans to wear the disguise of the Lily of the Valley.  The jackal masquerades as the gazelle, the wolf as the sheep, the enslaver as the redeemer.

The lie as the truth and science as proof  - that it means nothing.  Science is used to blind. “Progress” is used to divert attention from the truth so they can continuing devising, taking and killing.  Progress is a false badge paraded before people, like a soldier who’s given honors and a medal for killing the man whom he stole it from.

The truth is its own witness and the Bible verifies itself in every single passage, one taking you to another to put the story together of the agenda behind this game.

Below, perhaps those that do not understand what exactly it is that God did for us might understand it better through the eyes of a dad and his son.  That is, unless love in you has “waxed cold” and you are “already dead and don’t know it.”  It was all for Love.


The Story of Love



I have been putting some information together from various helps from Micheline, Diane, TL, some from JAmessenger, Miss P, Line and Deb, a couple of anonymouses (LOL, that looks funny in the plural) and even if I did not agree with everything they brought forth, they still led me in the RIGHT direction because of where the information came from.  Sometimes lies reveal the liar.  (Please do not assume I am calling YOU a liar if you are named above, that is NOT what I mean.  I mean the source YOU got it from).  God bless you all.

Whew!  (had to qualify that).  There are also bits and pieces of information that some of us had deemed rather inconsequential at the time it came out, but figured heavily into the scheme of things as time has progressed.

One of them takes me back not too long ago when Miss Katherine was interviewed with Piers Morgan.

At 4:15 on this part 2 of the interview, Miss Katherine mentions the Bible and she is asked if she still thinks about her son (stupid question, Piers).  Listen to what she says . . .


@4:14 – 4:22


Piers –“What do you think of when you think of him?” [Michael]

Miss Katherine – “ . . .but, being a Christian and believing in the resurrection, I feel I will see him again . . .


Why did she use the word “resurrection”?  She didn’t say “gathering up”, she didn’t say “rapture”, she said “resurrection”.

I searched the Bible for all occurrences of the word “Resurrection”.  There are 40 occurrences of the word “Resurrection” in the King James Bible and all of them are in the New Testament starting with Matthew.

Of the 40 verses in which this word appears, the passages in Matthew 27 really stood out for me.

There are according to the Bible two resurrections.  Both are mentioned in Revelation.


"And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.  6). Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.  7). And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."


This reads in Revelation as if the thousand years of Christ’s rein happens after the tribulation.  We don’t know what “loosed a little season” means.  Could it be that the “little season” is the Tribulation?

Most Christians have the understanding that the “rapture” or the “gathering up” or as Miss Katherine calls it, “the Resurrection” will signal the start of the tribulation. 

But there was a resurrection in the time of Christ also.  Jesus was not the only one resurrected!  Look below:


"Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.  51). And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;  52). And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,  53). And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."


This would throw a lot of people’s time lines off, wouldn’t it?  When Christ was resurrected, weren’t his churches built up?  Hasn’t Christ and the Christian faith been at the forefront of history for more than a thousand years?  Less than 100 years after Christ was resurrected, Peter spoke of men creeping in “unawares” into the church to corrupt, but it took them a lot longer to really get a foothold.

One of the verses we have to keep us on track is the much quoted 2 Thessalonians.

"That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.  3). Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;  4). Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."


Jesus also tells us in Matthew 24 that the son of man does not return until AFTER the Tribulation in verses 29 and 30.  In Revelation it says that the devil is thrown into the pit with chains for 1,000 years.  (Michael’s three references to 1,000 years in his song “This is It” and Evanescence’s “I’ve been asleep for 1,000 years” in the song “Wake Me Up” are rather telling).

The devil is “loosed for a little season” as Revelation 20:3 above tells us.   Then he moves about to continue to deceive the nations.  Now look at this:


And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."


This is AFTER the 1,000 years according to what I am reading!  The Beast, the false prophet and the devil DO NOT COME BACK FROM THIS.  This happens right before Judgment day when the books are opened (Michael said it was written for him “in the books, he did all he could, now God would be their judge”, right before the start of his trial in 2005, four years before he “was taken out of the way”).  And according to John in Revelation after those both living and dead in the ground and the sea were judged, he saw “A New Heaven and a new Earth” in Revelation 21.

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."


Isaiah also reiterates this before Revelation, back in the old Testament!


For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."


We have been taught (or at least I have) that this 1,000 years has not happened yet.  This is what they are teaching in church.

Did the “first resurrection” already happen at the same time Christ was resurrected? 

Did the 1,000 year reign with Christ already happen and has the devil already been “loosed for a little season?

The Bible says in Revelation 20:4 that those who did not worship the beast nor had received his mark, and the souls that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus lived and reined with him for 1,000 years.  It does not say they lived and reined with him on the earth physically.  And this is what we are taught.  They lived and reined with Christ.  Didn’t Jesus himself tell us that we are the temple of God and that he “dwells within us”?  When we accept Christ, this passage below tells us what happens –


"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  [19]. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

[20]  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  [21]  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

[22]  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  [23]  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."


These passages in their entirety of you read them, tell of the truth these men had been given, and turned to hide the truth behind “unrighteousness”.  These verses are very telling.

It also tells us that the “invisible things” are “clearly seen” and are understood by the things that are made.  That these people who hid these things “knew God”, but did not glorify him nor were thankful for the truth revealed to them.  It tells us specifically that these “professing themselves wise” but that became fools changed the image of the “uncorruptible God” into an image they made to be like the corruptible of man.  It mentions also to birds, beasts and creeping things.

Corrupted the natural things created by God.  Changed their DNA – The “Secret of Jachin and Boaz” as professed by the Freemasons.  They HID these things from everyone!

Romans 1:19, as well as those verses I shared with you yesterday (below) testifies  how and where Christ reins with these “saints and kings” mentioned in Revelation 20:4-5 posted above.   These are described as SOULS who will rein with Christ for 1,000 years and will become “Priests of God and of Christ”.  Below are the verses which tell us where God dwells.

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"


Christ has been in Heaven for about 2,000 years.   The infiltration of his church began almost as soon as he arose and searched out his disciples before God took him up.  The infiltration begins in Acts with the testing of Peter and with Paul as soon as they become well known.

It is in 1097 that the first “Crusade” to the Holy Land (Jerusalem) takes place under Pope Urban II.  Allegedly, the written history tells of a zealous crowd of about 70 thousand people slaughtering Jews and burning/pillaging villages in Germany on their way.   They capture Jerusalem in 1099 and set up the “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem” under Godfrey Bouillon. 


Godfrey was active in the successful crusader conquests of Nicaea and Antioch, but is perhaps most noteworthy for his efforts during the siege and capture of Jerusalem in 1099. His troops were the first to break through the city walls and reportedly began a massacre of the Jewish and Muslim inhabitants. During the massacre Godfrey allegedly stripped off his armor and cast down his arms as he made his way barefoot through the mayhem to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in fulfillment of his crusading vow. In the wake of the conquest of Jerusalem Godfrey was chosen by the crusaders as ruler of the holy city." – Source, crusades-encyclopedia.com

This “crusade” was a Papal-directed conquest.

In 1129,  the Knights Templar is recognized as a group “sworn” to protect the Holy Land  (from who?  It's native inhabitants?  Like what we did to the American Indian?)  It is from this group that history rumors that the “Freemasons” came from, although men of “craft” existed in Solomon’s time.  These events divide the 2,000 years since Christ’s resurrection.  Which half of this 2,000 years would Satan have been sealed in the bottomless pit, if this were the time period he was sequestered?


Can you hear me?
Don’t believe the church and state
And everything they tell you
Believe in me, I’m with the high command
Lyrics - lyricsfreak


And they have not a clue when its all gonna end, again”  - Michael Jackson, "Cry"

And I did.


Jermaine's Twitter on 5/31
it's not about Michael's fans @colelesley. It's about reaching a wider audience than that now

Jermaine Jackson ‏@jermjackson5
Sad a few fans (not tabloids) take my words out of context. I said "It's not about Michael's fans", meaning they don't need educating..."

Jermaine Jackson ‏@jermjackson5
Interviews to mass market outlets means reaching wider audience of those outside #MJFam. That was clear in context of last night discussion"


Diane was the one that alerted me to the twitters above and the “message” was not lost on me.  We need to get outside the “Michael community”.  My dream really was telling me the same thing.  There are people that NEED to hear the message that are not HEARING it because they don’t frequent the Michael Jackson community.

A friend that used to write to me once told me “I have Jackson fatigue”.  I was a bit offended, not understanding what he was trying to tell me.  We need to leave our niches and comfort zones and help people.




Further Evidence Of Harmful Ministries

In discussing the corruption infiltrated into our very DNA by men who shew themselves as God while trying to gain access to His “seat” in our bodies, many people have been fooled into thinking that their loving kindness built into them should be consummated in the carnal sense.

Take note of the deception talked about further down in Romans 1 -

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  [25]  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."


Did you catch that?  There is reference made to those that “served the creature more than the Creator . . .”  Where else did we see reference to the “creature”?


For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.  [19]  For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.  [20]  For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

[21]  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.  [22]  For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

I posted this on May 23rd’s Blog entry.  We will go more in depth with this another time.




Deciphering Clues

We are going to cover Revelation in sequence a little later.  Let me get back to Miss Katherine’s P.M. interview.  Let me post that again below for your convenience.


Piers Morgan Part 2
@6:07


Miss Katherine also discusses in part one of the P.M. interview about the burn on Michael’s head.  It seems as if these little keys of information are being given to us.  She talks about the burn on his head, then says the word “resurrection” and that she believes “I will see him again” AFTER lamenting that Murray will get to see his kids again and she will not see Michael again.  Is this another clue?


And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.  3). And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."

In verse five, we learn that the Dragon gives power unto the beast for forty and two months or . . . 3.5 years.  This is the second half of the period of Tribulation. 


5). And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."

Is this the “short season” that the devil is loosed?

Michael has a healed wound on his head.  But then so does an ancient sect of people who came into power with few people spoken of in Daniel 11.

Michael said “Am I the beast you visualized?”

Remember, in Revelation there is the Dragon who gives power to the Beast who’s deadly wound is healed and who is , is not yet is.  Then there is the second beast who is the false prophet, who ushers in the first beast and performs lying signs and wonders.

At 6:07 on that interview segment above, there is a split screen showing the AEG rehearsals.  I noticed something else that looked vaguely familiar.  It is the little injection of the song “History” during the “They Don’t Care About Us” song that supposedly was performed on June 23, 2009.  Michael and the dancers are pointing to a clock that disappears when their hands come down.

Almost three years ago, hoaxers speculated that this emphasis on the clock was a clue that Michael was telling us his time of death.  Maybe it was, but then again maybe it was something else.

I stopped the video, took a screen shot and blew it up.  Then I searched out the “Blood on the Dance Floor” album cover that I used on the last blog entry.  Because the emphasis on the clock in “This is It” footage reminded me of the pose of Michael on that “Blood on the Dance Floor cover”.


Blood on the Dance Floor Album




We’ve already established through previous blogs that Michael knew about 9-11.  Many of your well-rewarded, A-list artists knew about it prior to it happening.  It is something I have always had a problem with accepting and If I dwell on it, I could get very angry with him.  He had four years to tell us.  Dance positions on an album cover don’t cut it.  People died. 

Jermaine said in his book that Michael just happened to have a meeting scheduled in one of the buildings that morning they went down.  Yeah. Sure he overslept.  But the album cover says it was no accident he missed that appointment.  These are things that I cannot reconcile other than to say that Michael was, as he is now in a position that he does not want to be in and at the time could not help.

We’ve covered the symbolism behind that album cover, the “Jachin and Boaz” pillars that Rev. Hoggard said the Twin Towers represented.   The corruption of the temple, the verses from yesterday showing our bodies were the temple of God and the Holy Spirit dwells within us.

There are a couple of ways to read that album cover:   The Destroyed human chromosomes with the hybrid constructed in its place.  The symbolism from the elitists of man becoming as God (note the red suit, the color of blood, the human heart where the Holy Spirit dwells) and I noticed something else.

This is not a normal dance position/pose that is customary of Michael.  Michael doesn’t swing his arms way out like he was in the process of a run.  Some have speculated that Michael’s hands are in the position of a clock and if that is the case, the “time” on Michael’s “clock” is 8:55.  

If Michael was trying to show us the “time” that the first plane hit the WTC, then this is not exactly right, because the reports say that the first plane hit at 8:46 (source).  Michael’s arms would be much closer together.  Perhaps he is even informing us of both the date and time.   That’s how close it is.

Michael’s hands are close but the position of Michael’s “little hand” looks more like a nine and Michael’s “big hand” is closer to the “eleven”.  What if Michael’s pose was to alert us more to the DATE and not so much the time?  9-11!

So back we go to the “This is It” footage released by AEG, showing Michael  “getting down” with Orianthi.  Then the instrumental break into “HIStory” and the dancers slide over.  They play the Presidential March and Michael points upward.  The dancers do this fancy circling with their fingers and also point up.  This shows up at approximately 6:09 to 6:10.

Michael then does the same “circle” with his index finger pointing upward and we notice a clock illuminated in blueish light just above right of his head (his right).  The dancers flip their hands around again and point over Michael’s head.  Everyone is pointing to the clock that disappears when they bring their hands down.


Clock on TII


Closer/clearer


This is It clock 2



This clock looks like it says 12:16 or 12:17.  POSSIBLY 12:18, but the big hand is closer to the middle of where the “3” and the “4” would be on the clock.

Note the clock is not visible after they pull their hands down.  It was put up by lights against a particle screen – like a hologram.  It was NOT a physical clock.

Where’s the Clock Now?


This is It clock 3



Now if Michael and the dancers were trying to tell us something and if Michael was following the pattern on the album “Blood on the Dance Floor” in his warning, then the 12:18 is not a time at all, but a reference to a date, just like the 9:11 position of the hands on that album.

We can read Michael’s “This is It” reference as either December 16, 17, or 18th, or we can read it as December 4th.

Blood on the Dance Floor was released in May of 1997.  That is four years (and three months) from the time of the September 11 massacre by our government on the Twin Towers (and the Pentagon and the shot down plane in Pennsylvania).

(four years to get it right . . .)

Michael passed on June 25, 2009.  The rehearsal footage from AEG was released on July 2, 2009.

Four years and three months (4+3=7 or earthly realm + heavenly realm = completion) takes us to October of 2013.

Looking at the clock first, since this is what they are pointing at, we get the date December 4 or December 18th if you are reading the minutes hand as it is on the clock.  That could be this year BUT . . .

If we complete the pattern of the Blood on the Dance Floor Album being released four years before the event depicted on the cover, it would take us to December 16-18th of 2013, NOT 2012.

On the cover of “This is It” we show this:


MJ TII Baphomet



So is this the date that the “This is It” event happens?  Michael is depicted in silhouette in the position of Baphomet, who is another symbol for the Devil."


There is more to the “four years”, next time.


193 comments:

  1. I discussed Katherines interview with Piers with a friend of mine. Considering what name the Jehovah's use for Christ I simpy thought Katherine was telling us who'd be resurrected.

    I've obviously only read the first part of this blog so must go through the rest of it shortly.

    By the way, and oddly, a friend told me just last night that a Jehovah's Witness he knows is beside herself as she's been told (within her church) that the world is over within the next 12 months ! She's therefore not even going to bother making her lifes plans...

    TL

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    1. What name do Jehovah's use for Christ? Oh yeah!!!!! MICHAEL. Good point!

      If you read Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 and Revelation 13 (Where Christ is called the Prince), I can see where they got that from (discussed that on here before).

      I don't think it will be 12 months from today, but something is going to happen. I was told in a dream back in 2009 to "keep doing what you're doing, you will be where God wants you when he returns" . . . so I am.

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  2. I've always thought the image of Michael as the Baphomet for This Is It reads: Satan is King as their is a definite 'crown' highlighted between his ankles.

    TL

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    1. I wonder how Michael feels about that? I have a question, but I think I will wait until the next blog topic, since it will be about that very subject.

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  3. Katherine slips up in her Piers interview when asked how often she would speak with him. Started off in present tense then corrected herself and said she spoke with him at least twice a month.

    The other thing is Piers making a point of telling everyone about the concert where Michael makes everyone think its him flying off the stage with the rocket backpack. Yes, Michael is rather good at illusion.

    Now I know that Bretts original plans for the MONUMENT were multiuse. I'm wondering if, seeings Michael may be orchestrating the goings on, has he asked Brett to arrange this whole wedding theme for a particular reason? does Michael want the money to put to use in a certain area, is he promoting marriage? Is Brett an ok person doing as he's asked? The most obvious things in the vid are Katherine telling everyone she's never ever met Murray to this day. That still gets me. And her telling us that Paris can cry on cue as we learned earlier in the interview between Paris and Ellen.
    TL

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    1. Yes, she did. That's not the first time she's done that either. I think she did that on the Oprah interview as well. Was that calculated or an actual slip?

      Michael flies . . . I've seen him run, and I think he could, LOL!

      Brett - Yes, why leave those drawings of "Unity City" up on the blog? What is he trying to tell us? Perhaps that certain countries in the Middle East are also up to this to their necks?

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    2. An esoteric thingy i read about a week ago: Below the Abyss,seperation - Above the Abyss, Unity !!

      She seemed adament that Dr Murray told her about Michael at the hospital. And just as adament that she'd never ever met him in the Piers interview. Planned.

      We know Michael didn't fly with the rocket backpack and yet millions think he did.

      TL

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    3. Below the Abyss - if we're to go buy physical characteristics, that would have to be planet Earth. Separation exists here.

      I remember Miss Katherine saying Dr. Murray told her about Murray but can't recall which interview it was. I talk to people that still can't get over her shopping for sleeping bags in Target the day after. I was going to ask them if they wanted to go camping with us. Ed LOVES to camp out!

      I didn't know about the rocket backpack at all until I saw pictures of it when I was researching Michael :o) The guy didn't look tall enough to me.

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    4. I remember shortly after they announced MJ's death, I did see a picture of Mama Katherine at Target shopping for sleeping bags. At first, I was surprised that she would even be out shopping after losing her son but I didn't judge. I figured with them having such a large family who are coming for MJ's funeral, she needed to accommodate the family members so they can sleep in them. Keep in mind we are talking about a large family here.

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    5. I did keep that in mind. It's also a very large house. I'm not criticizing, just pointing out some early memories from 2009.

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  4. I heard a video snippet of a Prince concert long ago. And he says I've got to go back to America. Osama bin laden get ready to bomb, or something like that. I don't remember his exact words. Maybe someone else on this blog heard it too. That's was before 9/11 happened. Kind of eerie, as if he knew beforehand.

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    1. Well if Prince did say that (I haven't seen this concert footage, but that's interesting), he's got to know that Osama had nothing to do with the bombing other than being the "fall guy" as you said below. Al Quada is CIA-created and Osama's REAL name was/is Tim Osman.

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    2. Yes Prince did apparently say that.

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    3. Something sticks in my mind about an impromptu interview while Prince was signing CD's. Someone asked him who would win in a fight, himself or Michael. Prince's good natured laugh made me thing Michael would have chuckled at the question too. But then Prince said something that made me wonder what part he plays and who's side he's on. He said, "I've never really spoken about Mike before but we all need to just chill. We don't know what Mike knows (not sure of the wording there) and ultimately we all have to come back home"

      I took this at the time to mean that Michael had to "come back home" to the "right way of thinking".

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  5. Michael said in an interview that friends from Dubai called him and told him to leave New York because something was about to happen. That is kind of strange too. I don't know what to think of that. If they knew, why did they call him at the last minute? And most people think the American government, Bush was involved and Osama bin laden had nothing to do with 9/11. Then the call MJ received seems even more strange. And if Prince knew, why didn't he warn the people who was working in the towers, if he knew they were going to die by this attack. Maybe someone on this blog can explain it to me. It's like insane the whole 9/11 incident and the people behind it. And everybody got away with it. Osama bin laden, another fall guy it seems. I don't know but the whole 9/11 incident stinks of lies. One thing for sure, the devil was involved. Control and power was that their goal?

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    1. Do you know which interview this was? I believe that Michael knew long before the day before it happened, unless we are to believe that Michael knew nothing about what went on his album covers. Even so, if R.E.M. knew about it way back in 1989 when they released their album (End of the World as we Know it, song), I have no illusions that Michael didn't know. Perhaps Michael's "Dubai friends" didn't know that Michael knew. Some of the people I know that have ties to the Middle East tell me his people KNEW something was going to happen. They just were not sure what day or how it would happen. But they knew it had to do with hijacked planes.

      I don't know why the artists that knew did not warn people. Like I said in the blog, I can't understand that at all. I think they tried to tell us in the best way they could, through their art. But figuring out puzzles when people are going to die doesn't sit in my heart too well.

      Yes, the "false flag" operation was to more easily fold a shocked nation into believing that a group of Muslim extremists wanted us all dead and organized planes to fly into buildings and none of our government knew about it. I explained it all (showing video) on a blog last year. I cried over this ALOT while researching it. The fact that our own government and the demonic jerks running it would DO THIS to its own citizens just to more easily pass draconian control laws over the same.

      I guess the "cremation of care" worked that year for its participants.

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    2. VIBE Magazine Interview (March 2002) and TV Guide Interview ( Nov 2001). It might be one more Interview I'm not sure. But you can read all Michaels Interviews at allmichaeljackson.com. He didn't say friends in Dubai, It was my words. He said friends overseas in one Interview and friends in Saudi Arabia in the other, I think.

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    3. Hmmmmm. I wonder if this was in print, if it was Michael's words or a deliberate Misquote. Of course what else was he going to say? "Oh, I knew about it years before it happened. I just posted for artwork on an Album cover in hopes that people would 'get it', but they didn't! Oh Well!"

      Michael wore a bullet-proof vest for a reason. And it wasn't for drama.

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  6. Maybe someone put that so called clock on the footage afterwards to mess/play with our minds. Maybe Karen Faye put it. on there, who knows? I would like to talk to that person who put it there. It is sick. Doesn't the clock show the time the 911 call was made?

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    1. Well, if that was the case, how do you explain that Michael and the dancers all make an accentuated POINT of pointing to that clock (the dancers do it twice)?

      How did THEY know that clock was going to be there if Sony was going to put it in later?

      They SAID that was the time the 9-11 call was made, but I don't think that is what they are trying to tell us, considering the call was made BEFORE this was released. They are alerting us to something that WILL happen not that HAS HAPPENED.

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  7. In the TII footage, michael steps aside to reveal a second clock briefly.. Do you think the time on the second clock is relevant?? I cant quite make out if it reads 9:21 9+2+1=12 or 9:22 9+2+2=13
    Both clocks combined could be a date and year..

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    1. What second clock in TII? This only shows one time. There is no "9" anything. The little hand is on the 12 and the big hand is between the 3 and the 4.

      Where is the "second clock" you are talking about? Is it shown later in the rehearsal footage?

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    2. As he is pointing up he steps to the side, and the second clock can be seen below the first at elbow height.. his jacket blows over it

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    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZzXCWfpkM
      At around 0.33

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    4. Got the screen shot now, THANK YOU. I didn't even see that before.

      So back to your calculations of either 9:21 or 2:22. assuming this is in reference to the year. And the top clock which says either 12:17 or 12:18 and I think we have something.

      I will post the screen shot on a future blog together with the other ones above. (Like Louie said about Laminin . . . "wowwowwowwowwow!)

      Also I took note that even though Michael's Jacket blows over it (Thanks Mike! Couldn't you have turned off the fan for just one sec?) Orianthi is POINTING to it with her index finger with the hand she cradles the neck of the guitar with. And Michael moves to the side one bit just after it appears to get a better view. Then both clocks disappear when they march.

      In your opinion anonymous, would you say the second clock is telling us "2012" or "2013"? 9:21 or 9:22?

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    5. Yes yes thats it, Oranthi is clearly pointing to it, its very deliberate...
      I blew it up on the tv screen and to me it looks to be 9:21.. its hard to be definate as its blurred, but it does look as though it is just past the 4 or 21 so 2012..
      Which could be your '6 miles/months'

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    6. OMG. You just stopped my heart. That's weird!

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    7. Sorry Bonnie, didnt mean to do that to you :(

      I noticed you was talking about the TII thriller version further down in the comments. I was going to mention that too... Michael dances with the zombies on stage with the screen behind, which they frequently point out is 3D. Then the zombies come from the above and Kenny says 'Michael likes to call this 4D'
      3D and 4D! Earth and angelic realm!
      Also at the end of beat it, the part they all do the jumping and Michael throws himself on the floor and kicks his legs in the air LOL.. Michael says 'what we are doing is... we are doing it for 'the height'

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    8. There is something that bothers me about the interpretation of that. I hear the 3D and 4D (4D I thought was for the floating ghosts through the audience while they are shown floating down on the screen at the same time. Just like getting squirted with air or a fine mist of water in the seats of a 3D amusement at the theme park).

      But these "zombies" then show up dancing with Michael on the state, but then what happens? During the ending where the "Threatened" theme is played, Michael and Travis are standing on the lip of a ramp that is raising up on the floor of the theater (curious they would have this on a rehearsal at a studio where the show is NOT going to be) and we see the Zombies or "demons" if you will, being ordered into the pit (Michael's dancing and hand movements above as they are entering the pit).

      This also is NOT at the end of the show - Earth Song is at the end and of course, Earth Song is where (in the video) God renews everything.

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    9. Dancing with Michael on the STAGE not the STATE. But that works too, LOL! Got only three hours sleep.

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    10. Dancing on the state! LOL!

      yes i took it to mean it was the rounding up of all the demons from the tombs and above and sending them to the pit... The words are 'the demons sqeel with sheer delight, its you they spy so plump so right' etc etc then it says 'For tho the groove is hard to beat'... I was taking it that he was showing he had beat the groove???? What do you take it as?

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    11. Yes, I heard that monologue (someone TRYING but failing to sound like Vincent Price spliced in there). The "groove" is hard to beat - (slave to the rhythm?) I'm with you on that. (He overcame Susie, Dirty Diana and Billie Jean).

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    12. I thought though the reason they mentioned the 4D in that way though was because they were trying to make it known they were demons and where they were from.. He wouldnt make dead come from the sky if he was brought up a witness as he would know that the dead lie in the earth until the resurrection, even though many people believe that when you die you go straight to heaven. They talked about the 3D screen and showed the dead brides and grooms, then Kenny said 'Michael likes to call this 4D'... Surely they would all be calling it 4D because thats what it is, not just because Michael likes to call it that?? He dances with the demons like hes part of their dance or giving the impression hes one of them, then makes it clear hes not because he goes up the ramp as they go into the pit.. The same as in the live Billie Jean performance where he does the robotic walk forward, as if hes walking in line or being exactly what they want him to be, but then he blows a kiss and moonwalks backwards or backslides as if to say Ha, fooled ya!

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    13. Oh, I see what you're saying. That's right. 4D is the spiritual realm and 3D the earthly one.

      Billie Jean - Ah-ha again! And he was a young 'un when he did that!

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    14. Could I just ask one more thing :)
      On a recent blog you said Michael had said sometimes he felt the devil was actually a man... what do you think he ment by that?

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    15. Hi Anonymous - Sorry. Kind of a ragged day (housework, lawn mowing ect) and I got on here sporatically.

      What do I think Michael meant by what he said "Sometimes I think the devil is man himself"? That quote?

      Well, it might have been another clue, yes even back then, that the devil doesn't come out to play in broad daylight. He works through those he can manipulate. Men with greed in their hearts.

      There is also the Bible verse telling us how to figure out who the beast will be . . .

      Revelation 13:18
      Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

      The number of A MAN.

      Is it Maitreya? Or is it an actual name? Or is it a religion representing man replacing God?

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    16. Hi Bonnie, thats ok. I cant even imagine how you get all this done and still have time to answer questions!
      Yes that was the quote I ment (couldnt remember the exact wording)
      Ah ok, thank you... On the dangerous album cover, on the belt amongst all the man made missiles, poisons, stars, nuclear energy etc is the face of the devil. The devil, as you say, manipulates man. So I wondered why he put it with the man made stuff.. That quote then just made me wonder if he had another view on it, that was all.
      The religion representing man replacing God is growing in numbers by the day isnt it... So many people have been sucked into that way of thinking. Under the illusion they can be as Gods. They are all walking around seeing through one eye (or 3 lol) instead of two. Its heartbreaking.

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    17. I neglect my husband! That's how I have time, LOL! (sorry, not funny).

      Well, there could be the message that the devil has no power were it not for man. It's the individual that allows the devil in. Eve could have told the serpent to take a hike. She didn't. The devil tempts us with exactly the same things that are his weaknesses - vanity, greed for power/control/knowledge.

      In I think Jeremiah (could be Ezekiel) One of them is told to go to the king of Tyrus and give him a message from God, which essentially is that he was gifted with beauty, knowledge and wisdom and that he abused it, that he was "in Eden, the garden of God" and that he was "The cherub" that covered the throne" . . . that is Lucifer. So was Lucifer also the King of Tyrus, or . . .

      Or was the King of Tyrus a man who gave Lucifer control?

      Lucifer was the first liar. The first manipulator. But unless we give into that temptation? Lucifer can't exist in our lives. We are the ones that give him that power. Maybe that is what Michael meant?

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    18. LOL! oh dear! :)

      Ok I see what you are saying!! Yes its in Ezekiel.
      I had thought as it was among the man made weapons he was suggesting the devil was man made.
      So in that case hes suggesting that man (or a group of men) is giving power to the devil and using him as a weapon against the rest of the world, to gain control of it. The same as they are doing with poisons, stars (music and film) and missiles etc.
      I got there in the end LOL!
      Thank you :)

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    19. Yes! But this is the same group that has been in bed with the devil for centuries, through their generations (why your nobility in Europe and most of our presidents are all related - bloodlines).

      Remember Genesis 6 and the angels that took to earth to take up with human women (only in your pagan religions, they believe this was a GOOD thing).

      Then look at the DNA experimentation and implementation that has been going on.

      They are using God's creation to try and manipulate it into their own world.

      The beast being revealed by the "number of a man", or the "mark of the beast" or "the number of his name" - is all implimented by a group of men whom the dragon gives his power to (because they worship him). This is the Beast.

      The whore that rides in on the beast is the "Mystery Babylon" religion that has infiltrated everything from our printed money to our industries and our churches - the merchants of the earth. The "whore" of Babylon rides in on the beast. Who played the whore? Israel and Judah as told in Jeremiah and Ezekiel.

      The "ten kings" without a kingdom but that have power for one hour with the beast will end up hating the harlot.

      The second beast is the false prophet, whom the dragon gives his power to create the "signs and lying wonders"

      I am still on the hook about the thousand years in the pit. Because something else is supposed to happen that hasn't really been researched or discussed yet . . . the gathering up.

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    20. Thank you, Bonnie..
      Do you mean whether the thousand years already happend or is yet to happen?
      Did Jesus address the Pharisees as 'ye generation of vipers' because they was of that DNA or just because of the way they were?

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    21. Yes. I'm cross-referencing in the Bible now about that. There are a couple of verses that tell us the first resurrection does not happen until after the tribulation. What I'm trying to find out is if the 1,000 years of Christ's rein happens AFTER the tribulation. The tribulation is the seven years.

      I'm wondering if the "strong delusion" is actually the hiding in history of a 1st resurrection? But I can't assume. It has to be in scripture.

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    22. There is an angel that is sent that has a key to the bottomless pit. Who lets him out? And if this is after the rein of Christ (1,000 years), then what is it that is going on now? That's what I'm trying to timeline here.

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    23. I have been confused about this. I had thought that the 1,000 years happend before the tribulation and the 144 thousand were maybe the first ressurection which had already happend, as in Revelation 14 it says these were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits unto God and to the lamb. Then the harvest comes after this.. But I was confused because there is another part of revelations(cant remember where) that sounds as though the first ressurection happens after the tribulation and this is the begining of the thousand year rein.... But like you say, Lucifer is rising now.... I will be very interested to read your conclusions.
      Thank you for all you do here Bonnie.
      God bless you xx

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    24. Okay, yes, it does happen BEFORE the tribulation. I will cover it on the blog. I had to go back into 1 Thessalonians and Daniel to find it. My brain hurts . . .literally. headache. I wish my husband were here to kiss me on the forehead.

      The 144,000 "redeemed" are the remnant of the children of Israel. They are what is left of Israel that will make it to Heaven. The rest of us "Goy" will be redeemed through the blood of Christ, accepting that he died for us and confess that he is God that came in the flesh and died for us.

      The 144,000 of the Tribes of Israel are those that did not follow Israel into the bed of the harlot. who remained faithful to God and are virgins (yes, they exist). I won't tell you who I believe is one of these. I have no proof of that yet. :o)

      The "Beast" will be revealed this year. I am this close to positive about that.

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    25. Oh anonymous? Check out Revelation 6. Very interesting. I will post that too tonight.

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    26. I missed a question of yours further up in regard to Jesus referring to the Pharisees as "a den of vipers". I don't know if Jesus was speaking literally or figuratively. But it is fitting both ways. I can try to get inside Michael's head, but Jesus? I'm not that good. ;o)

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    27. There are other verses in which God says (through is prophets) and Jesus also refers to the Pharisees saying "your father is of the devil". So you could have a very good point there in regard to the comment "Den of Vipers".

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    28. My mum had asked if maybe he was one of the remnant. You can imagine her suprise (or horror) when I started dreaming of Michael till eventually I started looking into all this. There was a point when I think she was extremely concerned for my sanity! Especially when I had discoverd all about the mind control and abuse and torture of innocent children. I spent most days in tears, it was literally making me sick. It came to a head when I broke down in tears and kept pleading with her to understand and saying 'but dont you understand what has happend, its the same pattern, same bloodlines, dont you get it'. Thankfully I think that gave her food for thought and she has realised much of what im telling her fits in with what her father believed and taught her as a child. And she has seen evidence of much of what i was telling her. The best thing though was finding your blog! She now knows others are going through this too. And im not nuts as I think she had at first suspected I was going. lol.
      Yes im with you on the beast being revealed this year. I suspect its very soon. I saw your blog with the olyimpic ZION sign. I noticed that if you look at the first 2 and the 1 below, take out the dot in the middle and place it above the first 2 (it would need to be slightly larger)it looks like a person standing. Then take the remaining 0 and 2 and picture them slightly lower than the first 2 and 1 it looks as though someone is kneeling before another person.. Then if you take the olympic rings that are in the 0 and place them above the person kneeling it resmbles someone kneeling and being crowned.
      I shall go and read Revelations 6 now as I really do not want to hold you up anymore, you have so much you are doing already.
      Thank you ever so much for taking the time to explain all that. Its very much appreciated.
      Im sorry to hear about your headache. Iv been suffering with them also. I thank God for you everynight and prey he keeps you safe. Tonight I will prey for help with your headaches :)
      God bless you xx

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    29. I had noticed that Jesus often identified them as that. The other day I read the illuminati called themselves the 'Sons of Cain'. I hadnt realised they called themselves that. That could be taken two ways also.
      Thank you for answering that :)

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    30. Sorry Bonnie, I wont prey, ill pray! Typing is really not my strong point! As you can see! lol x

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    31. Anonymous,

      My headache is gone. Whatever you did, thank you very much. :o)

      Yes, it certainly does help legitimize when others that you've never met or have known are experiencing the same phenomenon. That was one of the reasons I started this blog, before I knew much about Michael. I discovered that he was a man of faith, but it was actually reading about other people that were having trouble coming to grips with what they were feeling and like me, for a time were in denial. Then the ridicule we received . . . FROM FAMILY sometimes. I am still getting that. They're not mean about it, they just don't get it. I wonder what the disciples families thought about their just dropping everything and following Jesus, the man who's "dad" was a carpenter?

      When you tell people that "something" kissed you on the cheek when you prayed for a "pop icon", yeah, they kind want you to look into medication and therapy. And in the beginning, I floundered. I still flounder and I trip and then I get back up and learn what it is that tripped me up.

      God Bless you, and thank you for pointing out that clock. It is amazing the timing of that and the subjects in the Bible we were looking for verification on at the same time. It's funny, after I posted earlier today, I prayed for God to just kiss my forehead better so I could continue. I see your "xx" was the way he chose to deliver it. :o)

      Anonymous - (if you're the same? don't know, LOL), Interestingly I have listed as the sons of Cain, "Enoch, Irad, Mehujael, Methusael and Lamech. However the "Enoch" under Cain is not the great grandfather of Noah. THAT Enoch was great-great-great grandson of Seth, Adam's third son.

      I had heard the "Sons of Cain" referred to as the Illuminati too. I'm not sure though if THEY came up with that or if that name came from others naming them that.

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  8. Did God create us from Stardust?

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  9. Seeings 911 was such a disaster perhaps those that know about something else planned are trying to point it out in This Is It and even 'other' things that we should watch out for.

    Michaels penchant for drawing chairs reminds me of Thrones or seats of power, hopefully God.

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    1. I love his chairs. I've never been "moved" to draw a piece of furniture. My dream house when I was a kid, but never furniture. Yes, the Chairs with the number "7" on them.

      Thinking about all this, that song "Is is Scary" is quickly becoming one of my favorite songs. It's the "ripping off the jacket, throwing it down" and "in your face" gutsy - "So let the performance start!" "I'm gonna be exactly what you wanna see".

      Who said Michael was non-confrontational?

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  10. Oh my, Michael's drawing in the 1980s on top : surely drawn during one of his bad days :o) Michael represents himself with black hair on one side & on the other one, with a puzzle of animals, bike, etcc..a psychiatrist could work days on it. The ugly little evil sitting on a side of his head : did Michael know very young what his life & entourage were made of ? Michael of the 1980's was then the Illuminatis' darling at the top of his world fame however Michael's core soul was & remained of God. With his parents in the persons of Joe & Katherine Jackson, even if their world was not always perfect & also despite Michael's huge errors or decisions at times, Michael could never be an evil man in any way. The 2005 Daphné Barak's interview of Katherine & Joe also convinced me totally on Michael & his family.

    9/11/2001 morning : Michael knowingly oversleeping on that day to avoid an appointment at WTC where he knew a catastrophy killing thousands of US victims would take place ? As much as Michael the man & his life were very complex & the Blood On The Dance Floor Album cover is effectively disturbing..but no, I rather find difficult to digest that one :o) but everyone's interpretation of events is free anyway. Michael's Baphomet pose (really ?) on the 2009 TII Album cover : this disturbs me now I realize it :o\ Why ?

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    1. Maybe it wasn't Michael posing for TII cover, but one of his impersonators?

      About 9/11....maybe he couldn't tell anyone for fear of being killed? He couldn't trust people around him.

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    2. His "BAD" days? You know what it reminds me of?

      "The beast that is, yet is not" from Revelation.

      It reminds me of "Armageddon of the brain".

      It reminds me of the man child the dragon is waiting to devour, but is caught up to God and to his throne" from Revelation 12.

      It also reminds me of the mental battle/spiritual battle each of us go through, and what it will do to us if we let it defeat us and pull us in.

      Thank you for the reminder of the Daphne Barak interview. Sometimes I have to keep reminding myself because sometimes Joe Jackson is a very hard sell. If he's playing any part, he seems like he's enjoying it.

      I too have issues with believing that Michael would do nothing, knowing that long in advance that something was going to happen on 9-11. But that album cover does tell us something, and even if Michael HAD said something more direct, how in the world would he ever get it past the media or the press? They'd never let the message out. I just reminded myself of that today.

      Yes, I covered the "Baphomet" post on the "TII" cover before. We know that is not Michael's doing. All that garbage was added when John Branca's head was lodged in the derriere of the Sony Execs to make that deal.

      I also wanted to point out that AEG's footage is the one with the clocks. It was released to the news on July 2, BEFORE Sony bought the rights and screwed with the film footage. Very telling.

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    3. Its not Michael himself as the Baphomet figure, just a representation of him.............

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    4. I Loved the Daphne video of Katherine and Joe too. Its actually hilarious in parts (sorry if I see the humour in such a serious interview). Katherine growling at Joe and making him hush etc. I stick by Marshalls video telling us its all a movie and Joe is just playing his part.

      I do wonder about Daphne's more recent vids with Aaron Carter though. What were they up to????

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    5. No, that's okay. I thought it was cute too. I had said once before that Joe reminded me of my stepfather in that video. His whole demeanor. I think in some ways Joe is still a kid in certain respects. He just says things and he may not be tactful at times, but it comes out honest, even if it is at the wrong moment.

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    6. Joseph has his own burdens to cope with (or so I've read). We don't always realise why our elders are the way they are until we delve into their backgrounds. He had a very hard life and perhaps its taken him a good while to chill. He seems to want to put on a brave face and I don't believe Michael or his siblings would be 'known' today if it weren't for his extreme efforts.

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    7. Oh yeah, I know. He during one interview let something slip about wishing he had never gotten them (or Michael) into the industry. He's been saddled with a lot of the blame and I was back and forth on him. But I cannot, just cannot discount that dream about the deer. He was there. He was part of that terrified and hurt family. He PUSHED ME WITH HIS ANTLERS! (gonna have to talk to him about that!) Every time I think of that dream I cry. I should print it out and stick it up on the wall behind my computer to remind myself the position they were put in.

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  11. Elena : Yes, if Michael divulged it, he would have also been the joke of the town & the media again. For now I prefer to throw this Michael/WTC idea out of my mind. Too horrible.

    Bonnie, I always remember John O'Neill, FBI special agent who had warned his superiors at the Bureau on an imminent attack on NY : he not only had fights with his superiors about it but was "moved out" & appointed in NY as Head of Security at WTC : only 3 weeks later on 9/11/2001 he died in a WTC tower. Osama Bin Laden was the big issue then but maybe O'Neill knew much more & was sent to WTC on purpose ? cynical theory also but who knows ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O'Neill

    Too many clues piling on : hard to swallow even if possibly true. Joe Jackson : yes, Wiesner & Co.. Grrr. Does Joe realize he plants vultures again in the family ? It's a pity for he has his good side too, I'm sure.

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    1. Oh Line, I remember that! Why didn't I remember it back when I covered that? (last year). That was a story and then some! Also on the album cover, I distinctly remember someone telling me that artists do not always have control over what goes on their cover. They can suggest art work but the label takes care of all the marketing and packaging and they can add or take away things. So in both the case of the "Baphomet" picture (where Michael did NOT pose - that was done after Sony bought it) and in the case of the BOTDF album cover, the "hidden in plain site" artwork could have been actually done by the label. I believe Michael knew though, but he couldn't even get these people off his own back let alone everyone elses.

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    2. If Michael has nothing to do with that Baphomet thing, I feel MUCH better :o)..for also in his last 2 days on the TII set, Michael's lovely expression is the one of a kind man : nothing wrong with him. Sony & others, ...Grr

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    3. No, I never believed Michael was responsible for the design of the Baphomet pose on the TII box. We all know who was responsible for that and WHEN that packaging took place.

      Nothing wrong with Michael. But you know, His image, persona and name is going to be used for the unwholesome.

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    4. The baphomet pose on the TII cover is part of the thriller dance.. He says 'I can save you from the beast about to strike' whilst lifting his arms and making an eye symbol. He does this a couple of times for various other lines. Then, I think its as as he says lets share a killer thriller, he does the baphomet pose. Its really fast and hard to catch though, and his arms are not quite as high. He also does it on the stage whilst rehearing thriller on TII but they cut it off to show the spider emerging from the grave yard.

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    5. Really? Which Thriller? From the 80's or do you mean the dance in TII? I didn't see that at all from TII but I will have to watch it again, because it wasn't something I saw.

      You know, it wouldn't surprise me because once Sony got a hold of "This is It" footage, they did all kinds of crap to it. This is why I believe Joe Jackson when he said doubles were used. But AEG got the blame for it, not Sony, who did the "creative control" editing. They were the ones who altered images to make Michael look emaciated.

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    6. I will listen for those specific lyrics for that move too, anonymous. Thanks! :o)

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    7. On the original 80's video.. but also on the stage whilst he is rehearsing on TII. You just catch his arms go up to do the pose but they cut it off and it goes to the spider in the graveyard.
      I saw a tutorial for the triller dance by Travis Payne and he ends with the exact pose. But i cant find it on Youtube.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_7rWflwW7E&feature=related
      This is the triller video. Its around 1:49 - 1:50.. He does it real fast so its hard to catch at first. You'd really only catch it on TII if you were looking for it.
      Your welcome :)

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    8. Anonymous.

      Okay got it. I will cover this on tonight's blog. Can't say I agree with you though. Not only are the arms not even close to being high enough in a very rapid dance move, but the hand positions are also not correct (his fists are closed in the dance moves, not strait fingered with wrists slightly curved back). I found both your original Thriller move and the one on TII. It actually looks more like a cross position but he moves too fast to tell.

      Found the Munich performance of Thriller . . . now THAT ONE is interesting! We'll go over it tonight.

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    9. Also, the silhouette on the "This is It" box is wearing a hat. He is NOT in thriller. Someone else posed for this artwork cutout.

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    10. Oh yes sorry, I wasnt saying that he posed for it i was just pointing out that it is in the thriller dance.. on the TII its clearer if u pause it just as he does it. When i first saw the TII pose I wasnt sure it was actually a baphomet pose as the horns arnt usually pointing up like that, the horns are usually level or slightly down at the ends I thought? On the tutorial with travis he does the exact pose thats on the cover during the dance at the same pint michael does it on the stage.
      The munich performance.. Is that the one where hes trying to pull from the demons but they are pulling him in all directions by the demons until he transforms into a beast then disappears in a illusion at the end?

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    11. I did, anonymous. I got the screen shot on both and that is why I don't think it is the same. The tutorial with Travis? What is that? That's post Sony, so to saddle Michael with that responsibility, I wont.

      Yes, the Munich is that same one. The demons are pulling him toward the coffin, then the illusion, then the "Michael" on the cherry picker flying over the audience.

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    12. The Travis thing was just something I saw but cant find on youtube. He was teaching the dance steps to thriller, and at the killer thriller point he does the baphomet pose exactly as it is on the TII case. So when I saw the TII and Michael crosses his legs and lifts his arms up at the same point I took it he was doing the same pose, all be it rushed. But Your right, lets not saddle Michael with what came post Sony.
      The Munich thriller, I wondered if you had seen that. The Bucharest I think it is, is similar. Michael is put into a coffin that then levitates under a cloth before vanishing. I assumed you had seen it. Im still trying to catch up, so much to plough through! lol

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    13. I looked for it too, but I didn't want to spend too much time on it. Thanks for looking though. I agree the move is similar, but it's so quick and not exact that I didn't want to commit to saying that's what it was. Michael crosses his legs just before the pivot, so I see what you are saying.

      I'm ploughing, I'm ploughing! LOL!

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  12. Dieter had those plans of the Michael Universe or similar. It makes you wonder if all that is coming to pass and we don't know it. It was also Dieter who showed us the date for the meeting that Michael had to purchase (hopefully) Marvel Charachters. I wonder if that eventuated too. There is a reason Joseph is mixing it in with Dieter.............

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    2. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! TL

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  13. Throughout the history of the Catholic Church we have seen some of the greatest atrocities, absolute tyranny - and scandals that'd make the current Media cry for joy. At the same time we have witnessed many great kindnesses, witnessed holy prescious souls doing God's work and know of those who spend their lives spreading of the word of his Son, Jesus Christ. The norm for most great institutions, the good and the bad.

    I disagree that Catholics cannot have a relationship with God due to doctrine.

    In my most humble opinion its IMPERATIVE that every last Christian denomination (including Catholics) get busy praying, standing up for God , his Son and the Holy Spirit because if the Christians are divided amongst themselves then its soooooooooooooooo much easier for the opposition to step in and take over. This is what they are hoping for...in house fighting. Christians cannot afford to be distracted.

    Now, for as much as the song "cry" suits all of us it is exactly what THEY (those rising up) are planning to do in the not to distant future. ALL CRY AT THE SAME TIME. And I say this LITERALLY. The date is set. As I see it there was the Old Way and then came Christianity which really put a spanner in the works for some, and now the Old Way is rising up once more and they are salivating as the time draws ever near for their long awaited plans to come to fruition.


    My greatest greatest hope is that every Christian group STICKS TOGETHER.................UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.


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    1. I'm glad you said that TL, because it's not just the "Catholic" or the "Baptists" or the "Lutherans" or the "JW's" or the "Pentecostals" - EVERY CHURCH has been infiltrated and there are GOOD PEOPLE in every single one.

      God doesn't judge by building you enter, it's the INDIVIDUAL HEART - The personal longing for the relationship that wants us to seek.

      It was the separation and division of the church that Paul fought against in his ministry. He spoke of and saw it happening not even 20 years after Christ's resurrection. And it was the workers of the law that began chiseling away at what Christ taught.

      Now we have a Christ's church body separated in dozens and dozens of denominations, all accusing the other of not teaching correctly. That line in the song "Jesus, friend of Sinners" -

      "Open our eyes to the world at the end of our pointing fingers - let our hearts be led by mercy - help us reach with open hearts and open doors". I LOVE that song.

      The song Cry, "All we have to do is reach for the truth"

      US! Not depend on someone else to tell you what "The Word" says. That's why I posted the links to the Bible verses on these blogs by the whole chapter. I want people to click on them and read them.

      Not to make light of your last sentence there, but in Daniel is says "the end will come with a flood", and in Revelation it says the dragon will put forth a flood from his mouth - then YOU mention them salivating over their plans coming to fruition and I thought . . . "ewwww. disgusting."

      But seriously . . . good message!

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    2. I do check all versus you leave here Bonnie. I also read other versus not mentioned.

      And yes we MUST reach for the truth as the song says.....be warned others are ready to gather and focus all at the same time.......soon. Won't be the good people.

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    3. "all cry at the same time" I think that sentence is in the Bible, when the people of Israel were suffering because of their sins, God punished them over and over again several times for years, and everytime when people were "crying at the same time" praying to God, He helped them.

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    4. I must look that up, thank you. It sounds prayerful yet its also what pagans do when they wish to summon something or invoke something. There is a group planning on a massive shared moment toward the end of the year. Since I do believe there is an opposing force to goodness, I know their invocation could be a real problem.

      I am praying Michael knew about these bad people and their plans and would wish to nullify it by doing the opposite at the same time !!

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    5. References to crying in numbers in the Bible that I am aware of -

      Psalm 34:17
      The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.

      Jeremiah 11:12
      Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble. (a warning)

      Jeremiah 47:2
      Thus saith the LORD; Behold, waters rise up out of the north, and shall be an overflowing flood, and shall overflow the land, and all that is therein; the city, and them that dwell therein: then the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl. (reference to the ending flood)

      There is a verse in the Bible that says if the Children of Israel were to cry out for God at the same time he would return. It's in the New Testament but I will have to search it out because its not where I thought it was.

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    6. TL,

      This end of the year thing that you hope Michael will be "doing the opposite at the same time" - Sounds alot like what I believe the bad guys are planning to use Michael for. In the Bible when it is describing the end times, I don't see anywhere them describing a global counter protest.

      Remember, it says in 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 it says

      "6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

      7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

      8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"

      And Jesus himself told his disciples -

      Matthew 24 -

      15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

      16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

      17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

      18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

      19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

      20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

      21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

      22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

      23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

      24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

      25 Behold, I have told you before.

      26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

      27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

      28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

      29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

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    7. No I don't see a global counter protest in the Bible either Bonnie. Either way there are a group of people that I firmly believe are a worry. They are tied to everything, everywhere and they don't believe that God is God but they are God. I think they are behind most of the trouble on the planet. They wish to run the planet. They claim to want to sort out the mess and get it all going properly, their way !!They sit in the highest seats around the world. There is no room for Christians. Now this attitude of there being no GOD could be enough to bring revelations on in a hurry......it'd be nice to think that Michael perhaps knew it and might want to make people aware because prayer and standing up together as Christians may help prevent these people from getting their way. He knew many of these people attached to the opposite side, and we know them too. He might have been an undercover agent.....or sorts.

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    8. I can't believe you just wrote that. What a novel idea! Why didn't I put that out there like, about a year ago! Where have I been? I must have been just playing in the last year, LOL!

      It's not going to go down like that. These people HAVE gotten their way and WILL get their way - for a short time.

      You are so right in Michael wanting to alert people and gather in prayer. This will save their individual souls.

      I also agree with you on the "undercover agent" bit. That is evident in his songs, "Is it Scary", "Ghosts" and "Threatened" amongst others. "Heatbreaker".. That's a good one "I hope in time she will finally realize, I'm onto her game and she'll get played the same...."

      ♥♥♥

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    9. ???????????? Have I missed something Bonnie? Was that sarcasm? (first paragraph)

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    10. First paragraph - Yes, sarcasm. Or exasperation, LOL! Pick whichever you feel most comfortable with. Sorry. I read your comment and did one of those rapid, head-shaking things. I read your comment like you thought I was twiddling my thumbs for the last year.

      There was someone that used to post on here that believed we could "rush" God's plan. THESE are the people I am wary of.

      I am firm on the fact that the Bible says we will know the time and the season but not the day and the hour of Christs coming. However, that does not mean that there aren't those that know exactly WHEN certain catastrophic events are supposed to happen and are GIVING CLUES such as the examples with the clocks above.

      This is wake up call time. We are going to stop nothing in God's plan. But it is our responsibility to teach people that the promise He made us is coming. We just have to get through a few things first.

      There WILL BE a New Heaven and a New Earth. I don't know if you believe that or not, but I do. Sorry about the sarcasm. I detected a hint of condescension. I could be wrong.

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    11. I don't believe in speaking to anyone in a condescending manner Bonnie....so no, that is not what I was doing. I was only replying to a comment. Like yourself and many others, I too have been reading, searching out info an discussing this broad topic for a couple of years and would never dare to make light of anyone who's done the same as its time consuming, worrying and oftentimes rather depleting. On the positive, seeings there are so many people taken over by this 'thing', its good to know that some of us have obviously come to fairly similar conclusions (despite our differences of opinion on some topics). That is my greatest wish, as I've said before.....that despite certain differences, we can hopefully all ban together for the positive outcome or realisations or whatever. Its important.

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    12. Okay, this is the comment I thought didn't post. It's WAY UP HERE.

      I'm greeting the day with a heavy thunderstorm and down here, those things make me nervous (got hit by lightning once and experienced a tornado - all in the same summer) No jokes, please..... :o)

      I get rather nervous about the whole "Michael saving the day" direction of a conversation because of the role he himself sang about wanting to put him in. And this is why I get angry and at odds with him and this "message" sometimes because people DO read it as an esoteric message. They completely abort his "Christ" witnessing and turn it into some crystal worshiping message.

      It's like watching someone you discovered was an abused hero leading people over a cliff. I don't like it. I don't just battle that kind of thing here. I battle it with people I KNOW. From people who PREVIOUSLY told me they understood. Very frustrating.

      I read Jesus telling Peter to "shake the dust" off his shoes, but I have a threshold and I do sometimes want to just pick up a handful of it and throw it at people.

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    13. I most definately do not worship anything but God.

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    14. LOL, I didn't say you did. And the "dust" I talked about throwing was not at you. :o)

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  14. Hi Bonnie.
    I have a link to a you tube video/song which I felt moved to share here on your blog. I'm hoping it will speak to someone's heart here.
    I don't have any scripture to hand to 'back this song up'.....neither do I have any persuasive words to go with it.....it's a simple song that I stumbled across tonight whilst unable to sleep.......it's about the Father's love.....it certainly touched my heart, and reminded me of a time long ago when I didn't know the Father God's love..........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjydOjLKMRY
    There are many people who still don't know the Father's love....this is for them..... hoping and praying it will strike a chord with someone....even just one?
    Love JAS.......more than a minute later than usual! lol :-)

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    1. Thank you JAS,

      I just listened to it. He has almost an Irish lilt to his voice, doesn't he? And I love, love LOVE the artwork on that video! My favorite line in the song . . .

      "He just loves me" ♥♥♥

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    2. I love that song, thanks very much !

      "I must come to Father like a child"...so true.

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  15. Oh, and one more thing. I read it where you asked, 'How about Michael and Marlon Jackson?' I was confused with that question so can you explain it. What about Michael and Marlon?

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  16. Diane sent this to me. Wondered what everyone would think about this. Personally, I think it's a bit humorous.


    A Message from the Estate Of Michael Jackson Re Wembley concert DVD Quality - The Michael Jackson Community Fan Club

    FROM: JOHN BRANCA and JOHN McCLAIN
    DATE: MAY 31, 2012
    RE: BAD 25 RELEASE

    It is great to see the overwhelming support and excitement in the fan community for the upcoming BAD 25 release. A few questions have arisen regarding the Wembley concert DVD. Although the press release wasn’t the place for background details, here is more information:

    • We know that Nocturne captured on Umatic tapes the footage projected onto the JumboTrons at the various concerts including Wembley. These tapes were turned over to Michael’s crew and we have confirmed with Patrick Kelly (who headed Michael’s film crew for the European tour) that everything from Europe was sent to LA to be put in Michael’s storage facilities. The same procedures were followed for the US shows.

    • Unfortunately, record-keeping in the storage facilities was sporadic, at best, so we do not know what happened to a tape once it was sent for storage. In most cases, once a tape was pulled from the box it arrived in, it was not put back in the original box and where it wound up doesn’t always make sense. As a result, 25 years later not all of the Umatic tapes from the various shows can be located, notwithstanding that we have conducted an extensive survey of all of the storage facilities. So while we believe that the Umatic tape for Wembley was initially sent for storage, we have not been able to locate it. And with regard to the Umatic footage of other concerts, the audio is extremely problematic and therefore these concerts are unusable.

    • We know that VHS copies of the Umatics were made when Michael wanted to view a particular concert, but because of the lack of record-keeping, we also didn’t know which concerts existed on VHS. We ultimately did find Michael’s personal VHS viewing copy of the Wembley show attended by Princess Diana and Prince Charles, but not the Umatic. Even finding this VHS felt like a miracle to us!

    • So while we continued the search for the Wembley Umatic master, we also researched the audio recordings that existed from all of the concerts including Wembley. Fortunately, the Wembley audio recordings were made using a sound truck, and appear to be the only multi-track recordings from the tour. The other audio/visual recordings that exist, whether Umatic or VHS, are “front of house” mixes, and therefore there are no separate audio recordings that can be used to create a high quality listening experience. It is for this reason that the Wembley audio is the only one suitable to create a live album. Cont . . . .

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      • If we were going to include a live concert DVD in the BAD 25 release package, we had only one choice, Wembley. And there were only two options for visual – the Umatics for a different show or the VHS for Wembley. It would certainly be less expensive for the Estate to be able to create a DVD from a Umatic tape than to spend the time and money to painstakingly restore/enhance the VHS footage, but then we would not be delivering a truly authentic experience and we truly believe that watching this concert with the high quality audio will create a magical experience for all the fans as it has for us. We ultimately chose a lab that has developed its own proprietary technology for doing this kind of work (including restoration for NASA of VHS footage) in order to make the visual experience the best it can be under the circumstances.

      We also could have chosen to release the Japanese concert from the first leg of the tour as there is a master of that show; but that concert was essentially a reincarnation of the Victory Tour with only two songs – “Bad” and “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” – added at the end. It isn’t what we believe the fans would want.

      We could have elected not to release a DVD as part of the BAD 25 celebration (and hold out hope that someday we might find the Umatic of the Wembley concert) or we could share with the fans the chance to relive that magical night with pristine audio. We made the decision to go with the latter and provide the fans with the most authentic viewing experience. We believe that the fans will agree it was the right choice when the package is released in September.

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    2. Is this the way the Estate writes?

      Perhaps if they pay Mr Vacarro a visit they might find all the missing goodies !! (mind you, I'm even suspicious of that whole drama).

      TL

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    3. The Missing Goodies? Why, they're not "missing" are they? They are just not available to the Estate Executors is all! ;o)

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  17. Bonnie,

    Have a look at the extended version of THRILLER on This Is It. I watch this with great fascination every so often. Yes,a portion is a reminder of Ghosts, and its this bit that has me transfixed. I watch Michael and I watch those dead people 'coming down'.............

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    1. Just watched it. You're right. There is elements of "Ghosts" and also "Threatened" at the end.

      The dead people coming down. Thinking . . .

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    2. Here you go . . . lots to see here. 1995 MTV Music Video Awards performance. This is the one I believe my mother really SAW Michael perform and had no idea (she called me on Thanksgiving night in 2010 to tell me he was "really a good little entertainer", LOL.

      Anyhow there's that - But if I never, ever saw Michael perform, think I would fall in love with him just seeing the look on Janet's face as she stood to applaud him after the "Dangerous" Medley. And Lisa Marie? She looked pissed. I don't know why. I've hear rumors about the Michael disappearing bit, but Lisa Marie did not look happy. Lots to read on this. She seemed to lose her smile when the kids came out onto the stage.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rZHPwVc3cJ8

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    3. In the music awards you refer to above Lisa most certainly was cross because Michael had done a runner prior that event....for about 6 weeks I believe. I would be savage if that was my husband. Knowing Michael he'd be forgiven pretty quickly (you see him singing directly to her in You Are Not Alone.....'your'e always in my heart'.) He really was a bit naughty. God love him !!

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    4. That's what we were told, but I'm not sold on that story. Lisa Marie did not love Michael. I can probably believe that Michael did a "runner" but how far would he have gotten with his handlers? I would be angry too, but more hurt. And Lisa surely didn't seem to forgive him ANYTHING in any of the post 1995 interviews she did with either herself or herself and her mother (Drusilla). Michael singing directly at her? Possibly one of the times, but he pointed out to the audience more than once at different parts of the stage. Not all at Lisa. He could have been pointing to his sister who was pretty close by (and showed a LOT MORE appreciation). Got to be careful of the camera cutaways. They imply things not always true.

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    5. I wanted to add that if Lisa Marie was upset about Michael "running" it was probably because she realized she was not in control of him and it pissed her off. That I can believe. Remember, this is the same woman who said to Oprah that she believed Michael had children as a way to get back at her - As if Michael shared her shallow pettiness and would have children for no other reason.

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    6. ONly one line of the song Bonnie....to Lisa. I really do pay mind to cutaways and such. Trust me. I can't say if she loved him or not. She'd be mad if she didn't !! I have often thought that she was not telling the truth (or the whole truth) in some of those interviews. I really felt that she was keen on him but for some reason, couldn't express it or wasn't allowed. Its a hard one for me. Maybe its more that I can't understand why on earth she'd want or need to do anything untoward to Michael.

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    7. You're going to have to find it in your heart to forgive me but when I see Lisa Marie, I see "no light" in that woman. No light. Dead eyes. I believe Lisa Marie knows how to COVET, not love. She may have at one time, but there is nothing in those eyes. I can't tell you I see something I don't.

      For that matter why would Michael have ANY enemies? Truly? If ANYONE could hate Michael, why not Lisa Marie. She lost quite a powerful seat not being able to convert him to Scientology. But they still had a plan for her. This is her last chance.

      "Michael Jackson Loves Lisa Marie Return Together".

      If this happens, run for the hills. The faking of Christ and the church bride?

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  18. Well, its the opposite of being taken up i guess. Yet it has the feel of something sacred, that music is ethereal. This could be purley theatrical but when it comes to Michael I believe he has meaning tied to everything...............its almost as if the dead are coming back to earth.

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    1. "Behold, I make all things new . . ."

      Question, please don't go to bed yet. Just got some information from a friend of a friend . . .

      June 21st, Cherokee Castle, Colorado.

      Stew Webb . . . are you familiar with this?

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    2. Just looking that up now Bonnie. And I won't be going to bed for about another 11 hours or so !! I'm on the other side of the world dear.

      TL

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    3. Bonnie, I see Occupy has notified people about the evil Banksters and June 21st etc. I don't trust the OCCUPY movement (for the most part).

      TL

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    4. Oh man. I think I just answered my own question. Never thought I would run into an old marketing customer, ROFLMBO!!!!! Glen Canady - Gorilla Online Marketing Course! LOL!!!!! Must be the right wing, Free enterprise bunch, hee hee!

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    5. 've just seen a pic of George Bush senior wearing some sort of illuminati cap with the number 77 on it !!

      Its a pic in an article regarding the Stew fella being shot at yesteray??????

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    6. I think I might have to devote half a blog to this one. You said "Occupy people" . . . yes. I agree with you. Now try this on for size -

      This "Stew Webb" and "Art Bell" are the very same people that were smearing Ted Gunderson and John DeCamp, both people that were trying to get the Franklin Scandal SINCERELY investigated and prosecuted - With the D.C. Call Boys and Johnny Gosch's story.

      The guy that runs the "Project NSearch" is Glen Canaday. He has the same "donate" buttons on his site that you see on the likes of Ben Fulford's sites.

      Glen Canaday sounded familiar to me so I did a search and sure enough, Glen Canaday is the SAME Glen Canaday that was the self proclaimed "Internet Marketing Guru" who scammed people with "The Gorilla Marketing Course". This guy used to buy sales leads from me, LOL!!!!

      Several people that worked with Stew Webb to discredit Gunderson all worked with CIA or were in CIA families. (This could mean nothing because my husband has a CIA relative).

      So with all that said - We know from people OTHER than Webb and Canaday that there is a castle, and that their HAVE BEEN child sacrifices spoken of at this castle and at the Ranch (which Hunter S. Thompson allegedly filmed several for snuff films and Dick Cheney "hunting expeditions" at this Ranch) - So do we take this seriously?

      Here is what I expect to happen . . . this stuff is going to get exposed. BY THE BAD PEOPLE. Because the BAD PEOPLE can't usher in a "God of Peace" announced by their "False Prophet" without exposing the "evil".

      Just like the fake Al Quada, Just like The boogie Man Tim Osman - er I mean Osama Bin Laden and the "Muslim extremists", Joseph Kony and the "Christian extremists" and the other false flag operations - The big "evil" during the summer solstice thwarted to make way for the "Unity" event at the end of the year?

      Your turn!

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    7. Gosh, I had to run off for a minute and youv'e left a big piece !! Yes, I agree with you ........those that are flat out exposing this that and the other are the very ones who need exposing themsleves. Its all a great con but there is a reason for it. I think when Latoya said you have to pay attention to what the other hand is doing would be apt right about now !! Don't you? Distractions abound. What have they up their sleeves apart from causing a crisis so large that we'll all need to run to 'whomever' to save the day and that someone will be just who we don't need to run too............

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    8. That'll teach ya! LOL! It's 3am here. Me hast to get to beddie-bye. Yes - Thank you Latoya! ((((hugz, Hugz))))

      This is, well, I won't give it away. I just need sleep. That's it. Maybe I can get my husband to sing something really silly to me to fall alseep to, like he did just now to tell me it's stupid to stay up until 3am.

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    9. Goodnight Bonnie. God bless !!

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    10. And good morning! God bless you too!

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  19. I also recall reading that Michael was privvy to a Codex or Tome of a religious nature. He went to view it (I think read it) at a secure place. I wish I could find that article. When I get time I will try to find it. I do believe he knew things others didn't.

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    1. Yes, I was told by someone that the Aleppo Codex was NOT the oldest Hebrew complete Bible, so that makes sense. What else . . . thinking geeze, where's my brain.

      Michael's interview with Rev. Jesse Jackson in 2005 on the radio is good to give a good listen to (I've been over that interview now probably five times), and there are some key parts of conversation, like Michael mentioning to Jessie that its the "same pattern with these people that I told you in the past" . . . Jesse Jackson is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations. I would LOOOOOVE to know what they talked about prior to that interview.

      Also, Michael said "ana-gossip" and anyone studying the history of early Christianity knows the word "ana" and "Ana-Baptists" was a term people were labeled with who did not accept the "infant baptising" so they would "repeat" the baptism of those who were previous baptized as babies. These "re-baptizers" were called "Ana-Baptists" and I never heard anyone EVER use that term to anything else outside of Biblical history until Michael used the term "ana-gossip". (It was another "fall in love" moment" and I knew he STUDIED).

      Awesome fella, he is.

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    2. Well, here's me thinking Michael was just speaking the way my Dad does when he said An' ......ahhhhhhhhhhh !!
      I'm not with you on how Ana would relate to gossips though. Re baptising is one thing but are you meaning re-gossiping? re-telling of something? My brain is numb today. With the baptising it sounds like the Ana baptising is what the Born Again Christians do here. First baptism not right, or enough so they jump in a dam. I would never wear white personally as the clay water doesn't help the fabric. (sorry, its just that I've seen this happen and really thought they should have worn some old bathers they were ready to throw away). Not taking away from how important the event was to those who partook.

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    3. In the use of the term "Ana-Gossip" Michael was referring to repeating PATTERNS of behavior (as in the repeating the pattern of "order out of chaos" or repeating the same patterns they use through history to take someone down or discredit them. It's a blue print they "repeat")

      It doesn't matter the fabric you get baptized in (LOL, funny). They do river baptisms here but most churches have Baptismals now. It's a small pool you step down into and the minister just dunks you. It symbolizes the "dying and being risen again to new life".

      Since I grew up in a Baptist church I can tell you what they believe, and that is Baptism is useless to the person in getting them to Heaven. It does not. The person has to understand and be of age of understanding to accept God conciously in their heart, repent and confess their sins TO GOD not to men. God then Baptizes them in the Holy Spirit (as is most prolifically peppered throughout the book of Acts) - but the Baptism with water is only symbolic of the rebirth. It means nothing unless you have accepted and confessed love for the Lord.

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    4. I love how you love Catholics Bonnie.

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    5. Oh Bonnie,

      The Vatican seems to be expecting something 'coming down' by the look of the article I just mentioned so maybe quite a few people and institutions are onto something repeating or happening..............

      Thanks for the explanation on the Baptist Church. I was only kidding about the 'fabric' by the way.

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    6. Not sure what you mean about how I love Catholics. What are you referencing in that comment?

      Baptists aren't perfect either. The President of Promotion for the Southern Baptist Convention is a member of the CFR. After seeing what I've seen, I'd rather not attach myself to a denomination.

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    7. I was referring to your piece about not having to confess to men but GOD. I was only playing with you Bonnie.....because your'e right, no religious group is perfect. I still wish and pray though that all of the imperfect christians would get their butts into gear and pray day and night....band together in thought ......direct their wishes to God himself. Millions of us, continually.

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    8. Oh, sarcasm! LOL, yes I did find that later and thought that is what you might be referencing. But the Catholic Church is not the only ones that do that.

      All Christians are imperfect. Even Paul was imperfect. Peter, Timothy, Stephen, John, James (Jesus's brother), Lazarus, and every one of the prophets was imperfect. The more we pray the closer to God we are. :o)

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  20. TruthJustice:Yes I agree with you about seeing Katherine shopping at Target,that was quite extraordinary given she had just lost her son.I have wondered if it wasn't more about the name of the place Target, that Katherine was perhaps trying to hint at something that Michael was a Target......I'll link the video.http://youtu.be/lMTbODVE5R8.Whats also amazing is how these film crews just happen to be on the spot.

    Bonnie;I have only replied once here,but have continued to read your blogs.This is so interesting about the clocks in the TII footage.I was looking at both videos again,and thinking could the higher clocks time be 21st December?There is a lot of talk about that date this year.
    With the 2nd clock,well I have never noticed this one before,and Michael subtly moves away to show the time..............could it be perhaps around 10.20 and if so maybe its May 10th,which is the date that Conrad Murray tapped Michael [well thats what the court case showed us]and also there was a meeting at the Beverley Hills Hotel and the last family gathering in May.Also the mirror in Carolwood he supposedly engraved his thoughts which mention April and full out in May,but nothing for June.Just a thought.

    TL;You are so right about the Thriller/Threatened scene in TII with the dead people coming down. Michael right at the end looks like the Puppet Master pulling the strings.

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    1. Hi B,

      I disagree with you on the clocks. Here is why:

      The higher clock - first one revealed = The larger hand is nowhere near the "21", it is between where the three and the four is. If it was 12, the hand would be between the 4 and the five position (just off four).

      The lower clock - the second one revealed after Michael steps away (and I do have a screen shot of this and will be showing it), it is not May. I believe anonymous was correct in stating this was in reference to the year. Why?

      Because of the order in which the clocks are exposed - date then YEAR. or the 9+21= 12. Put together 12/17/12 or December 17, 2012. I'm curious as to why you would think Michael would reference a time as insignificant as the alleged time Murray taped him?

      Also on the Thriller scene - The zombies/demons are being ordered into the pit at the end. I'm not in agreement with TL's "dead people coming down to earth". Especially considering the theme playing during that moment . . . "Threatened".

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      Sounds harsh saying Dead People Coming Down To Earth Bonnie. I might be able to give you a better explanation soon.

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    3. Harsh? I didn't take it that way. Not everything I express comes off the way I MEANT to say it either. That's why I ask questions and am trying to get better at assuming people mean something when they meant something else.

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    4. Rrrrr! "Trying to get better at NOT ASSUMING people mean something when they meant something else" - asking questions to clarify. Typo. sorry.

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    5. I think I should have worded it differently because what we read in front of us is not always how we are thinking it before we type it. I just basically typed I SEE DEAD PEOPLE. You get the gist? I must clarify before putting things on cyber paper. Head to hand not always wise.

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    6. ROFL. "I see dead people". The catch phrase from the movie "The Sixth Sense".

      Well understood. I'm much familiar with doing that myself. Don't you just love it when people want to start dissecting you? It's even worse when you make a typo and I do that a lot too.

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    7. What I think and how I communicate it is a bit of a job for me. I cannot imagine how Michael is able to think of ways to communicate with everyone in his code - ish way. Mind you, it helps when you know your 'fans' and those 'interested folk' know your every move, every breath. Most interesting that he let Schmuley know who in turn let us all know quick sticks. I have this feeling that this was planned (Schmuley putting the tapes out so quickly and discussing it all). I know it doesn't make sense when we think of Schmu and his ties but something tells me Michael planned this passing on of info..............

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    8. Some of those "fans" who pretend to be interested in his "every breath" still do not get it either.

      I had a discussion with my husband about this yesterday, and he actually said he "didn't see it" because of the "crotch grabbing" and the sexual overtones of some of his performances (??? sexual overtones? Michael?) and I was REALLY irritated. I was like, "where have you been for the last two years?" (Of course I'm at a loss at trying to explain the crotch thing except to remind him about the MK Ultra Mind control stuff, and that some people don't get the kid in him).

      Anyhoo - this developed into an argument and I'm defending Michael TO MY HUSBAND! I couldn't believe it. He knows what I'm working on! But he's right about one thing. That kind of stuff that was done on stage sometimes is not easy to defend or explain to people that haven't researched it, which is WHY I told him that I focus the blog from Michael's experience/life. Because people do NOT KNOW this stuff is done to people.

      Discussing Schmuley, yes. Definitely by that time Michael knew their game. He gave them information he WANTED them to know. I'm sure Mike was also aware of the way they would twist things. Schmuley didn't try to publish a book on just his word, he released tapes. Now . . . me being skeptical and seeing what things have been done, I can even entertain the thought that some of those tapes had been (or portions of them) faked. We don't SEE Michael talking. We only hear a voice.

      One spot that sticks in my mind is Michael saying how he knew the women fans would defend him. Was that calculated? I'm not even going to debate the truth of it, its evident. But WHY did he say that? Was it to reinforce his "role" that he wanted them to believe he "accepted" or was he really reveling in his ability to manipulate?

      That is the kind of stuff I defend or try to defend successfully when people come at me like that.

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  21. I cannot believe the article I just read that was released from the Vatican....how do I check if the article itself is legit???? Talking about how Bishops in their regions should be able to decide if apparitions etc are authentic...............did someone already tell them there'd be a fake appearance in the near future?

    Quote from the article..."A revelation would be dismissed if there was evidence that the person who had witnessed it was mentally unsound, whether the vision was the product of "collective hysteria" or if there was a suspicion that the whole thing was a fraud concocted for profit".

    The timing is extraordinary. The article is titled VATICAN PUBLISHES GUIDE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH 'SUPERNATURAL PHENOMENA'.

    In all my days.......................................

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    1. I'll have to search up the article. I can find the comment where you posted the link.

      Interesting. I question why the church would have to "verify" a revelation to begin with? Who died and left them boss? (My step father's favorite saying). Since when do THEY determine whether a person is "mentally sound" or not? They are the authority in their own minds who just happened to convince others they are the authority.

      That's like the announcement of the Pope back on July 7, of 2009 absolving the Jews on killing Christ. Excuse me???

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    2. Telegraph.uk

      "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9305646/Vatican-publishes-guide-on-how-to-deal-with-supernatural-phenomena.html"

      Also I wanted to show you this -

      Images of the Pope

      Symbol of Sun God
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/15/pope-clergy-sex-abuse-penance

      Behind him - Upside down Cross
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/5329012/Pope-Benedict-XVI-calls-for-rebirth-of-Middle-East-at-Christian-burial-site.html

      Behind him in Gold - The phoenix Bird
      http://www.institute-christ-king.org/bouquet/

      Middle of his hat in the center of the square - 5 pointed star
      http://thegreatone22.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pope-3.jpg

      Russian Orthodox Catholic Church
      http://www.whale.to/b/dragon13.jpg

      Crossiers and Roman Catholic Symbols
      http://freeamerica2009.blogspot.com/2009/04/roman-catholic-church-symbolism-and.html

      The Pine Cone depicting their reverence of the Pineal gland

      http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/pinecone.html

      Pope's Mitre and its origins

      http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/mitreofpope

      But they are still only the carriers of Babylon.

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    3. Yes Bonnie, I'm well well well well well well aware of all the symbolism in the Church. I noted the article because of the TIMING of this announcement. Is there a reason they would decide at THIS MOMENT IN TIME to make available info for any apparitions etc that could possible even be faked??????????????? That was my point.

      TL

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    4. Pope Benedict scares me. He doesn't smile. He lears.

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    5. Keep an eye on the Olympics. Also on June 21st.

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    6. None of us will probably look as good as dear Katherine when we get up in years, including the Pope.

      I am watching out for all things Olympic Bonnie.

      TL

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    7. Excuse me, Bonnie, but Russian Orthodox Church is NOT Catholic.

      Its Orthodox. Two different things. Just saying....

      P.S. I'm watching all things Olympic too.

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    8. Lena,

      Excuse me, but the web site I got that off of said "Russian Orthodox Catholic Church.

      http://www.superpages.com/bp/Philadelphia-PA/St-Michaels-Russian-Orthodox-L0112489390.htm

      This one is the Russian Orthodox GREEK Catholic Church.

      http://www.ststephenscathedral.org/history.html

      Do they differ slightly in doctrine? Yes. Do they have the same ceremonies and symbols as the Catholic church?

      Yes. That is why I put those picture links up there. There was a split yes, but they took their pagan similarities with them when they did. Other branches off of Catholics did the same, including the Baptists and their "Sunday" worship - The "Lord's Day"

      They all do it.

      http://recministries.org/blog/2011/11/10/the-lords-day

      Did you catch the promo for the Olympics? See the stadium they built?

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    9. Have you seen the Olympic mascots?

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-0-09A80B29000005DC-700_634x649.jpg

      Probably they are representing Jachin and Boaz.

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    10. I did a search on Orthodox Catholic church.....it seems to be some hybrid of Greek Orhodox(which is in Russia) and Catholic Churches. Which is strange since they separated a thousand years ago and the rituals are somewhat different...as much as they can be different within one religion.

      The Pope has no authority in Ortodox Church. Plus we don't have benches to sit on in church( its not a ritual but still...))))

      Yes, I saw the promos, two of them. It kind of scared me...and what about their mascots with a third eye and horns and stuff....

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    11. I read somewhere how they ( people on the site)"translated" the names of those mascots:Wenlock + Mandeville- we unlock man devil.

      maybe its just good imagination....but who knows

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    12. Thank you for the photo of the Olympic Mascots. Yes, I did seem them a couple of months ago. One eyed aliens. I thought? Huh??? Guess we'll find out soon enough.

      Elena - You're right, it is. I didn't mean to say they are still part of the Catholic church. I only meant to show that "Mystery Babylon" has infiltrated and bled into everything. I know the Pope is not over the Orthodox church and I didn't mean to imply that I believed he was. It's just like the Episcopal churches - Not Catholic, but split from Catholic and definitely borrowed a lot of their ceremonies, doctines and symbols.

      I do not want July to come. I just don't.

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  22. Since the clocks have been quite the debate here, I have a different view point and you can shoot me down if you will but...

    The top clock to me, IF the short hand is pointing to the 12, the little hand is on the 20. The lower clock, if you line it up with the upper clock, the little hand is on the 10 and the big hand is on the 20. Okay, if that is indeed a reference to a date - no fancy math - that would be December 20, 2010. Look what happened then:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/12/101220-lunar-eclipse-tonight-winter-solstice-2010-total-december-science/

    The moon was turned to blood. Did something else happen on this date????

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    1. Hi Blake,

      I still think the LITTLE HAND is on the "12" and the BIG HAND is BETWEEN the 15 and the 20. Even so It sounds like we both agree this is a DATE of between Dec. 15th and the 20th. (Funny, the Bible says we will not know the exact day and time, which could be why the ambiguity in the "fuzzy clock".

      The lower clock is DEFINITELY NOT on the 10, it is on the 9. I have a screen shot of it and I will put all those up on the next blog.

      I don't think Michael was pointing to a lunar eclipse. Why would he? What significance does that have to mankind?

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    2. Meaning an eclipse does not kill people.

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    3. Blake, that date for the lunar eclipse says 12/10. Not sure how or where you are getting 12/10 on the lower clock. The little hand is on the 9 and the big hand is nowhere near a 12.

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    4. Bonnie, The lunar eclipse took place on 12/20-12/21/10 and coincided with the winter solstice. The first clock 12/20 or 12/21. The second one still looks to me to have the little hand on the 10 and the big hand on the 20 but I've just pulled that from the above utube provided at approximately 0:33. Reading together "clock-wise" 12 20 (or 21) then 20 10 for 12/20/2010.

      As far as an eclipse being so noteworthy?? It's just because it was rare because it happens at the same time as the winter solstice. Isn't that a special "ritual" day?

      It may be totally immaterial. I was just wondering if something else catastrophic had happened during that time.
      That was my question. Michael's concert, had it gone on, would have had this message out before the 12/20/10 date.

      I'm sorry for bringing it up.

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    5. Hi Blake,

      Well this is why I was asking. I was trying to understand where the "20" came from on the second clock.

      I have a screen shot of that second clock. It is NOT POSTED ABOVE. I will cover them in sequence on the next blog.

      On that screen shot I took, it shows the little hand on the nine and the BIG HAND just below the 20. This is why anonymous, who is the originator of that post, said 9 + 2+1 = 12 for the complete date.

      Rituals happen every year at that date so why point out just this one? (They also happen during Spring Equinox and Summer Solstice - a BIG ONE on Summer Solstice).

      Don't be sorry for bringing it up. That's how we work through these things.

      The BOTDF album depicted an event that killed thousands of people and started a nation on it's draconian "security" legislation (removal of freedom). This is why I don't think this "clock" emphasis would be about an eclipse that no one would pay attention to except maybe witches. It would make more sense for Michael to point out a catastrophic event.

      Blake . . . something else that might make you smile. This footage is the original footage that AEG released to the news BEFORE Sony bought it. It is also the only footage that is used when the family is being interviewed. You know what that means?

      It means that AEG produced the "warning".

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    6. Oh and Blake, try not to mind me. Between upper and lower clocks, 12's and 21's, I'm typing dyslexic typos and getting frustrated because I see it AFTER I post and NOBODY knows what the heck I'm trying to say.

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    7. Blake where did your comment go?

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  23. For some strange Irritating reason, TWO COMMENTS did not post when I approved them One was from TL and one was from Blake. Not sure why except that Google needs slapped.

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  24. Hi Bonnie,
    Are you going to bring back the cut and paste thing on your blog?
    It's the Queen's Jubilee at the moment.
    Is it true Paris Jackson has recently been interviewed by Oprah again?

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    1. Hi iloveMJ,

      You know, I wish there was a way to protect the content and links could be copied on the comments. The fact that they won't show up as hyperlinks on the comments is rather irritating I agree. But I have people posting my work or misquoting it. Some are the same people that have bashed this blog.

      If it is a link in the CONTENT of the blog, it allows you to open the link and you can cut and paste it from the browser bar of the new window it opens up. But I have no control over the comments or I would make those links live too.

      Paris/Oprah - I heard about it but I haven't seen it. I hope she is protected wait . . . nope, I KNOW she is protected. (but I don't like it and you KNOW I don't like it.) Thank God Prince told us God was protecting them. ♥♥♥

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  25. Hi Bonnie,

    Last night I wasn't quite asleep... the phase where you are, but you don't realize it?... anyway, It was then that I saw Michael and he had me by the hand and was leading me down a hall. The love I felt from him was so overwhelming, and I have been searching for a word to describe what I felt at that moment, and I just can't find one that will come close.He never spoke a word, but yet I felt his heart. I woke up before we got to where he was leading me. It was so vivid that tears were streaming down my face. Can you help me understand what this means? Was he trying to show me something, or make me aware of it? Most of the time I don't remember dreams once I wake up, but this was something different that I have never experienced before.
    Thank you for your time.

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    1. Hi Anonymous,

      I don't know if I am good at trying to interpret other's dreams because you are the best judge of what emotions you go through when you have them.

      You said you felt he wanted to show you something or make you aware of something. Maybe that something was the love you felt from him? Where does that come from? Why do others that you've read about feel that too?

      What in your mind did the hall represent? Were there any doors? Were they open or closed? Do you recall any colors on the walls/doors or were they white? (The doors in the hallway in my dream were all white with wooden floors).

      You are holding his hand - "Don't you let go of my hand...."

      Perhaps the dream is simply telling you that what you are feeling is right, and that you're not crazy?

      Hope that helps you with the questions I posed come to a more firm conclusion. :o) ♥♥♥

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    2. Thank you Bonnie. Your questions did help:)

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  26. Maybe. You should get offf your self righteous horse anti simetic, anti catholic crap and stop endorsing a rockstar as a prophet. Do you really know Jesus?


    From a catholic.

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    1. Wow. You're right. Maybe I should just join the Catholic church, point fingers at everyone else and tell them they are going to hell unless they're Catholic and deny Christ? Would that be acceptable to you?

      I'm not anti-anything. If I was, I'd join right up and endorse their doctrine. I'm PRO-Christ and Yes, I know Him. And if you knew Jesus, you would know who Jesus's biggest enemies were in the Bible. His own people. Thank you for the post.

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    2. Bonnie,

      I don't know any Catholics who do what youv'e suggested above(pointing the finger and telling everyone they are going to hell etc etc etc).That is why people are prone to sending uneasy comments I'd say.

      In house fighting is not the way. Again, for anyone who believes in God, his son and the holy spirit.......STAND UP.

      To quote Kermit.....Its not easy being green..........

      TL

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    3. Jesus is not in catholic church, He is in the heart of people who are willing to recieve the love and spirit of God in a humble way.

      If you disagree with what is said in this blog it's ok, but being disrespectful your comments are worthless.

      Maory

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    4. TL,

      I married two of them. I dated one before that. I know how my ex's family made me feel because I would not bring my boys up Catholic and I am familiar with their doctrine.

      Again, this is not directed at individual people who believe in Christ and are throughout all denominations. I am not fighting with anyone, I am pointing out fact. You don't bury the truth in the name of "Unity". There is no "Unity" in hiding the light of the truth.

      People are prone to sending uneasy comments as you call them, because they don't like the truth. That person above you? They're not interested in the truth. And the Catholic doctine teaches - if you are not Catholic you are going to hell. You don't deny the symbolism as you said in a comment above.

      I'm not happy about you suggesting I roll over on the truth. Just who are we supposed to make happy? The power BEHIND the symbolism in that church or God?

      You cannot serve two masters. The power behind the Catholic church as it is governed now is NOT God. I've shown you the examples. Christ didn't accept it why should we?

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    5. Maory,

      Thank you for putting that in laymen's terms. I hope everyone understands what you just said. God bless you♥

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    6. No Bonnie, I said I was well well well aware of the symbolism, something to that effect. It does not mean I follow any symbolism etc. Its just awful to see people sending nasty messages here when its supposed to be about Michael. Or people sending YOU nasty comments. It takes everyone away from all the other interesting things that are being uncovered.

      TL

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    7. So what do you propose I do about it? Not point out the lies?

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  27. Hi, Bonnie
    Hope everything is well with you.
    For me the clocks timing have a different meaning (what if they mean the supposed time of Michael's death?), telling us that everything was an illusion and Michael is well and healthy somewhere, enjoying live and love for the first time in his life?
    Just a thought.
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    1. Hi Ana,

      Well, I guess we'll find out within the next six months what it means, won't we?

      Actually, I do believe that Michael is well and healthy somewhere. But I don't think Michael was self-absorbed. If he was going to point out something tricky on a clock, it would be to warn OTHERS about danger to them, as he did on the BOTDF album.

      Ask why would he bother with such an elaborate and lengthy illusion to begin with? For self promotion? That's not Michael.

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  28. If you really are Catholic then you would not speak that way. Think about it !

    TL

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    1. Sorry TL - I posted in answer to them above, not against individuals in the church, but what they are taught. Thanks for jumping in. ♥

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  29. I was reading the comments and noticed the one about the angel with the key etc etc.....which brought the film IMMORTALS to mind that was released on 11 11 11. It was a little gory for me in parts but it follows the bible story (sort of). Also, the fact that Relativity Media made the film I wanted to take a look. I scoured around and found a site which actually discusses this film and the tie in with the bible. Its interesting. As always it seems the real story in the bible gets twisted. I'll leave the link. beginningandend.com/immortals-movie-war-gods-preparation-antichrist/

    TL

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    1. TL, from their web site:

      "As was the case with the movie “Legion” a film which also took its concepts from Bible prophecy and scripture and distorted it to make the fallen angels, the heroes and saviors of humanity, the Biblical concepts in ‘Immortals’ have also been altered to put fallen, evil angels in a positive light.
      From the opening seconds, we see the dilemma the world is facing as the screen reads: “When Heaven can’t defend us.” The idea that God is not going to be a player in the ultimate salvation of humanity or is an enemy of humanity, is promoted in many movies (such as ‘Legion’, which we covered in a prior article, for example).
      “A man chosen by the gods.” Who are the “gods” in the Bible? They are the fallen angels who in ancient times, were permitted dominion over the nations of the Earth and masqueraded as “gods.” The Bible references this era in Deuteronomy 32:
      “Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask your father, and he will show you; your elders, and they will tell you. When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.” (Deuteronomy 32:7-9)."

      Just - Wow.

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  30. Hi Bonnie,What I was actually trying to reference was more about the Months April and May as seemingly busy Months for Michael,[not so much the taping by Murray,as we weren't privvy to that]and was thinking that this 2nd clock was a hint as to a date rather than a time that he perhaps disappeared......or maybe the 1st clock is the Time of death that was announced to the world........and the 2nd clock was actually the time he 'disappeared'........and created the Illusion.........like Kenny said...........and of course we were all reminded of the Illusion by Latoya at the trial.
    What else is interesting is that Latoya says she first heard of Michaels death at 9.30am....I'll link you a video,not a Hoax one,just a video which shows a time-line of what the family had to say about when and where they were when they first heard about Michael on that day.Latoya is at 11.40secs,if you don't want to watch the whole video.......http://youtu.be/wFwWEavlLoE.....its Lunajo67 series part 68.
    I must say it is a day I'll will never forget,and I know exactly where I was.
    Cheers B

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    1. B.

      Show me one thing out of any of those clocks that references the month of May.

      Like I said to Elena, I guess we will find out in six months won't we? You're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong. You didn't answer my question because you couldn't. Your argument does not make any sense. It seems to me you are trying to diffuse the purpose Michael pointed to those clocks. The "anonymous" that tried to post "Go B!" that I deleted was a big tipoff . . . I know their I.P. address. Get it? Now get lost.

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    2. Bonnie,

      you answered to Ana not me))))) just saying)))))

      I usually jump in to discuss something russian. LOL)))))

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  31. Last comment before I post the next blog (this one is getting too full and I cannot find comments once I post them because of the length).

    I'm sure there are a few on here that have noticed certain I.P.'s/"anonymous's" playing off of each other. I've been tracking them. Hopefully they will crawl back into the woodwork.

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  32. Oh no, I forgot. For the anonymous who posted a question six times, the answer is yes. I can't wait. You know who you are.

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  33. Bonnie,

    I left my initials as always.(or at least I think I did) I don't play off anybody. Why did you tell me to Get Lost?

    TL

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    1. TL, that comment was in response to B. Above. I addressed it to "B" specifically. Why would you think it was to you?

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    2. And TL? Can you please save comments for the next blog going up? (tonight). This one can't hold anymore. It's taking too long to load for some people. I'm deleting all replies to this blog entry from here on out.

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