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Michael Jackson Justice: February 2014

God: Reconnect to Him

The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael's story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".

Friday, February 28, 2014

The Bell Curve of the Firmament Part 2

What Is A Firmament?

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

"And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above."

I promised you we would cover this way back on “Exploring Zerubbabel – Part 1” and other than wanting to give you more of a foundation on this topic before jumping right in, I have been trying to find a way to put it into words. 

On that blog topic, we discovered a rather tight relationship between the band “REM” and hints of future events, like the 1989 released “End of the World As We Know It” and it’s warnings about “plane flying too low” and “don’t get caught in falling towers”.  I had also posted their video “Losing My Religion” on Part 1 also:

Consider This
Do you know what this song is about?
Do you know who it is to?
“Consider this . . .  the hint of  the century…”

Below that we discussed the “second temple”, which Sheshbazaar and Zerubbabel were both given credit for laying the foundation for, but with the Lord’s promise that Zerubbabel’s hands will finish it.  Yet King Herod was given credit for finishing the temple and King Herod was he who wanted the child Jesus killed.  Therefore this left us with a temple which would be “more glorious than the first” but that perhaps the promise the Lord made to Zerubbabel was not what turned out to be Herod’s temple; that this was not completed in Zerubbabel’s time.  Was this promise broken or were there two different temples being talked about; a material one and a biological one?

"Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;  22. And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

23. In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts."

There was no shaking of the earth unless we of course count the earthquake and the rocks renting when Jesus died on the cross.  Could the spirit of he who raised Christ from the dead also have been in Zerubbabel?  What did the Lord remind the Jews as they poured out of Babylon after their exile?

"I smote you with blasting and with mildew and with hail in all the labours of your hands; yet ye turned not to me, saith the Lord.  18. Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the Lord's temple was laid, consider it.

19. Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you."

What is the Lord telling them here?  From the four and twentieth day of the ninth month he says specifically.  In that day, the Lord instructed Haggai to give the priests a riddle; of whether a garment concealing holy flesh would still be holy if it touched an unclean thing – and they answered “no”; or if any of the holy vessels were touched by one who had touched a dead body, would it be unclean.  They answered “it will be unclean”.  Verses 11-15, and the Lord instructs Haggai to tell them "So is this people, and so is this nation before me, saith the Lord; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean.  And now, I pray you, consider from this day and upward, from before a stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of the Lord:"

You know what this means.  Their hands cannot possibly construct a temple in which the Lord would be able to dwell.  This is why the Ark of the Covenant with the tablets, and the presence of God was missing from the second temple; and why the disciples of Christ after he resurrected, knew about it but for some reason couldn’t speak about it. Remember from Hebrews -

"And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;  4. Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

5. And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly."

And just as the riddle for Zerubbabel to Sheshbazaar; and Jesus to the great prince Michael, we have in Ezekiel an ambiguity between real time prophecies of that era or of the end days to come.  And I can see how those that cling to the Old Testament covenant would read this book as strictly a Nebuchadnezzar related prophecy.  Those who can’t (or refuse) to validate a new covenant in Christ will not be able to get beyond the “veil” of understanding.  Still there are others that know, but don’t want YOU to know, because your continuance in their bondage depends on you remaining blind and dependent on them, instead of trusting in Christ.

With that said, let me finally get to the point. 

What is The Terrible Crystal?

While reading Ezekiel I found amongst other things, this verse below.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

What is this?  What is the terrible crystal?  What color was it?  And more importantly, what is the “firmament” of which this likeness was?  This lead me to search on “firmament”, why it was called that, what it meant and its significance.

The “firmament” is mentioned 15 times in the King James Bible.    The first one in the beginning, Genesis chapter 1:

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

In this verse, a “firmament” divides the waters from the waters.  On earth what does this is usually land.  In the next verse in Genesis we see something interesting:

"And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."

Diagram of Genesis 1:7

God made the firmament and this divided the waters under it from the waters above it.  This suggests that if the firmament is land, then there is water UNDER the land as well.  Let’s see what else we can find to identify what the firmament is:

"And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:  15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so."

Something Like This

So this isn’t land.  This is something else.  This is “heaven”.  This is where lights to divide the day from the night, for signs and for seasons, days and years are placed by God.  So then what were the waters ABOVE the firmament?  Was the earth a sphere-encased ball floating around in a huge celestial ocean?

I remember as a child, I would find times to just lie back in the grass with my hands folded behind my head and look up into the sky.  I would imagine that I was actually a fish or a mermaid, and that the sky and it’s wisps of clouds was actually the underside of the surface of the ocean.  It was fun for fifteen or so minutes to imagine that.  But as an adult, I wanted to know what a “firmament” was.

Upon researching for that is where I ran into descriptions of Noah’s flood, and the “eruption” of water up from the ground.  I saw this described on the CBN Website:

"10 After seven days, the waters of the flood came and covered the earth.

11 When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the underground waters erupted from the earth, and the rain fell in mighty torrents from the sky. 12 The rain continued to fall for forty days and forty nights.

17 For forty days the floodwaters grew deeper, covering the ground and lifting the boat high above the earth. 18 As the waters rose higher and higher above the ground, the boat floated safely on the surface. 19 Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth, 20 rising more than twenty-two feet above the highest peaks.

24 And the floodwaters covered the earth for 150 days." - Source,

This is their quote from Genesis 7.  The KJV Bible words it like this:

"And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.  11. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.  12. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

17. And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.  18. And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19. And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.  20. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered."

No firmament is mentioned in the account of the flood.  But “windows of heaven” are mentioned.  CBN explains the “great deep” in this way:

"The phrase "fountains of the great deep" is used only in Genesis 7:11. A similar phrase, "fountains of the deep" is used in Genesis 8:2, obviously referring to the same thing. The "fountains of the great deep" most likely refer to subterranean sources of water. Some theologians and scientists believe that on the third day of creation, when God made dry land emerge, some of the water that covered the earth may have been trapped underneath and inside the dry land." - Source,

Windows or Doors of Heaven

The “great deep” is mentioned four times in the King James Bible; Genesis 7:11, Psalm 36:6, Isaiah 51:10 and Amos 7:4.  Aside from the passage in Psalms, each mention is related to the waters.  The assertion in the CBN paragraph above makes it sound as if the waters of “the great deep” were an accident as God made land, trapping water beneath the surface.

Now, let’s leave this alone for a minute and go back to the “firmament” that separates the waters from the waters (above the firmament and below it).  I searched for the etymology on the word “firmament” and I found this:

firmament (n.)
mid-13c., from Latin firmamentum "firmament," literally "a support or strengthening," from firmus "firm" (see firm (adj.)), used in Vulgate to translate Greek stereoma "firm or solid structure," which translated Hebrew raqia, a word used of both the vault of the sky and the floor of the earth in the Old Testament, probably literally "expanse," from raqa "to spread out," but in Syriac meaning "to make firm or solid," hence the erroneous translation."

I have a couple of questions about this.  Whenever I see the words “erroneous translation” in regard to Bible translations coupled with the words “probably from”, I have to question it.  Because the last time I saw this was in relation to the name of God, Jehovah, and we know the Hebrew we see today is not the Hebrew that was “pre-Babylon” exile.

First, there is no reason to believe that Bible translators who were translating old Hebrew (or trying to translate from the post Babylonian corrupted Hebrew), would have any reason to resort to the Syriac meaning of the word for “raqia”.  Syriac was not the originating language of the Bible to the best of my research.

William Tyndale was put to death because of his translations from Hebrew and Greek because of the truth.  The King James Bible is two thirds Tyndale-sourced and Tyndale used “firmament”.

I took to the translation in Google even though Google references modern, not ancient or traditional Hebrew:

The word “ductile” there means “able to be pulled or bent into different shapes/malleable”.

Then I took the words “raqiya” and “raqa” and put them into the translator.  In the translator there is no “raqia” or “raqa” in Hebrew.  Only the suggestion “רקיה“ which translates into “rakia”

And there is no “description” below as to what “rakia” is.  When I enter that word by itself into “Google” search, I come up with “a strong alcoholic Bulgarian drink”.  However, a similar word, “raca” appears in the King James Bible.  Used in one of the verses in context, it appears below:

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

That looks similar to “raqa” or “raqia” too.  What does Raca mean?

"Raca, a Biblical term of Aramaic origin used in Matthew 5:22. See Aramaic of Jesus or Expounding of the Law. Its meaning is "worthless", "vain", "empty". Is a word of contempt towards an object that is depised." - Source, Wikipedia

And according to the “Hebrew Lexicon” web site the word “raqa” means the same thing as “raca”. (source,)

Two other sources assert that the word and it’s “base” word relate more to something “solid” or “firm”:

"The Hebrew word raqia is usually translated “expanse” or “firmament.” When it is directly followed by “of the heavens” it means atmosphere, sky, outer space, or heaven. However, what does raqia standing alone mean? The Hebrew words most similar to raqia ((ayqirf) are raqa ((qarf) its root, baqia ((ayqib@f), and baqa ((qab@f). Each describes a deformed solid.

By studying English meanings of raqa, baqa, and baqia in Table 27, one can see that atmosphere, sky, outer space, and heaven do not relate to what we might guess raqia means. Instead, we get a picture of a breakable, hammered out, or pressed-out solid. How can a solid be breakable but malleable? Answer: extreme compression. " - Source,

Extreme compression?  Then it goes on to say that the “firmament” was the land because earth was once heaven.  But that is not what Genesis says, does it?  Then we get this from "Answers in Genesis" -

"In particular, Seely has published two papers in the Westminster Theological Journal claiming that the Bible teaches that there is a solid dome above the earth. He announces near the very start of his 1991 article:

‘The basic historical fact that defines the meaning of raqiya‘—the Hebrew word in Genesis 1 which the King James Bible reads as ‘firmament,’ but many modern translations render ‘expanse’—‘is simply this: all peoples in the ancient world thought of the sky as solid.’ 2

Following this statement is an impressive and informative list of citations that goes on to prove just that point: from American Indians to the neighbors of the Hebrews in the ancient East; from ancient times until the time of the Renaissance, there were almost no recorded dissenters, leading Seely to the resolution, ‘When the original readers of Genesis 1 read the word raqiya‘ they thought of a solid sky.’2 Then, after an analysis of relevant Biblical texts, Seely concludes:

‘… (T)he language of Genesis 1 suggests solidity … and no usage of raqiya‘ anywhere states or even implies that it was not a solid object … The historical-grammatical meaning of raqiya‘ in Gen. 1:6-8 is very clearly a literally solid firmament. ’2" – Source,

A third account narrows down the various Biblical translations:

"Raqiya is a Hebrew word that has been translated as "firmament" (KJV, ASV), "expanse" (NIV, ESV, NASB), "dome" (NRSV), and "vault" (TNIV, NJB). The term and its referent are relevant to our understanding of ancient culture, interpretations of the creation account, and the possible condition of the earth prior to the Genesis Flood." – Source,

You can take all of these explanations and throw them out the window if you are a believer that the Bible is the inspired word of God.  That being so, it would not matter what ancient cultures believed about how the sky was formed, whether it was solid or just an “expanse” – none of that matters if these are God’s words.  If these are God’s Words, then what the ancient Hebrews ‘THOUGHT’ the sky was made of is irrelevant.

The “inspired Word of God” is not restricted by scientific understanding of certain peoples during certain courses of history.  If Jacob knew how to “pill strakes” way back in Genesis 30 to get Laban’s flocks to conceive calves with a certain kind of marking, then they knew what DNA was and how to manipulate it that far back in history.  I have no problem believing that David knew that God had written “his members” in a book when as yet “there were none of them” and I would have no problem believing that the universe is not what government funded “science” tells us it is.

The Bible means what it says.  Science’s attempts to dumb it down are another way that the devil keeps you in bondage.  “This is impossible” . . . Modern science tells us that the universe is “filled with emptiness”.

There is another group of verses in the Bible that loosely relate to this topic and is mentioned nowhere else in the Bible;  That is in 2nd Corinthians:

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.  2. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

3. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)  4. How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Depiction of the 3rd Heaven

Don’t you wonder who this was?  Who was it that Paul knew was caught up to the third heaven?  He did not know if he knew this man “in the body” or “out of the body” and twice says “God knoweth”.  And why was it important enough for them to include this in scripture?  What was it God wanted us to know from this?

The Firmament From the Beginning

We know from reading the account in Genesis 1 of creation, that a “firmament” was first made before God called it “Heaven”.   This firmament was what God created – spoke into existence, to separate “waters above” from “waters below” this firmament.

Before the firmament, the earth “was without form, and void”.  In other words, there was nothing but water.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

That is your beginning.  Before there was an earth, there was “darkness upon the face of the deep”.  The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  The first thing God spoke into existence was light.

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.  4. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

God called the light day and the dark, night and that was the first day of creation.  The separation of light from dark occurs.  The next day, day 2 God makes the firmament.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.  7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.  8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."

God creates the firmament in the midst of the waters (in the middle or into).  God then divided the waters UNDER the firmament from the waters ABOVE the firmament.  He THEN called the firmament Heaven.  That was the second day, and we learn in the next couple of verses that this “firmament” could not be the “land” of the earth as Answers in Genesis asserts because of the “third day” in verses 9 and 10 . . .

"And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.  10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good."

By God’s own words, the firmament could NOT have been dry land, because the dry land was the result of gathering the waters UNDER the heaven, which God so named the FIRMAMENT after he created it.

According to God’s Word, we have a firmament He named “Heaven”, that divided the waters under it, from the waters above it.

Something solid would have to do that, wouldn’t it?  Of course you could use liquid to divide liquid, if a liquid was heavier or denser than the other.  Point being, the words in the Bible mean what they mean.  Translation ambiguities are easily figured out if you read the Bible and those words in context of those verses.  You will always find what you are looking for in other parts of the Bible to solve a dilemma.  Some will try to sell this as a misunderstanding based on the scientific naivety of the ancient Hebrews; yet they knew more about DNA in Jacob’s day then we do today!  They could do things we can’t do now, and knew how to access power that today is kept hidden from us by those who guarded these secrets and used them to oppress – Something Jesus called them out for time and again in the gospels.

One thing I do agree with on the “Answers in Genesis” page is this.  It most certainly is important in understanding the scope of creation and how everything began.

One of the articles I found while searching for this was a publication on PDF titled “Myth of the Solid Heavenly Dome”.

"Anyone who wishes to study ancient Hebrew cosmology will quickly discover that the common understanding among most modern biblical scholars is that the Hebrews had a “prescientific,” even naive, view of the universe. This
understanding is built around the idea that the Hebrew word rāqîa‘, which appears in Genesis 1 and is usually translated “firmament” in English Bibles, was actually understood by the ancient Hebrews to be a solid, hemispherical dome or vault that rested upon mountains or pillars that stood along the
outermost perimeter of a circular, flat disc—the earth. Above this solid dome was a celestial ocean (“waters above the firmament”). - Source, 

Note that they again fall back on the “naïve” and “pre-scientific” view of the universe.  Would this matter, if the Bible is the “Word of God”?

Even the pictures drawn in an attempt to illustrate what it MAY be like, are not subject to the Word God put down in the Bible.  It is only a rendition of what they understand it to be.  “In the beginning was the Word”, not the “illustration” in John 1:1.

You either believe the Bible is the Word of God, or you don’t.

"In reality, however, the Greeks argued for a spherical (not flat!) earth that was suspended inside a complete, hollow heavenly sphere, which, in turn, was also suspended inside additional outer spheres (a geocentric model). They believed that these spheres were necessary to explain the movements of the sun, moon, stars, and planets. It was thought that these celestial bodies were attached to, or embedded in, these large, transparent hard spheres, which carried the celestial bodies along as they rotated in space. A number of different spheres were needed to explain the separate movements of the celestial bodies . . .

The idea of hard spheres would be picked up by Hellenized Jews as early as the fourth century b.c. The pseudepigraphical work, 1 Enoch, discusses a hard firmament with openings through which the sun, moon, and planets move in and out.16" - Source,

Perhaps now this quote from Michael Jackson might make more sense:

Deep inside I feel that this world we live in is really a big, huge, monumental symphonic orchestra. I believe that in its primordial form all of creation is sound and that it's not just random sound, that its music. You've heard the expression, music of the spheres? Well, thats a very literal phrase. In the Gospels, we read, "And the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul." That breath of life to me is the music of life and it permeates every fiber of creation.

Michael Jackson’s “Hayvenhurst” Studio
“Music of the Spheres” put on the wall

Michael Jackson also said this in the same interview:

In one of the pieces of the Dangerous album, I say:  "Life songs of ages, throbbing in my blood, have danced the rhythm of the tide and flood." This is a very literal statement, because the same new miracle intervals and biological rhythms that sound out the architecture of my DNA also governs the movement of the stars. The same music governs the rhythm of the seasons, the pulse of our heartbeats, the migration of birds, the ebb and flow of ocean tides, the cycles of growth, evolution and dissolution. It's music, its rhythm.

Isn’t that interesting?  There are bible verses that back this up:

"The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear."

God made the sun and  moon stand still.  This happened twice in Biblical history, and it is mentioned in Joshua 10:13 of the book of Jasher mentioning this. 

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

The angels “left their own  habitation”, which is spoken of in Genesis 6 of the ‘sons of God’.

"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me."

This is Joseph telling his bigger brothers that the other eleven “stars” (first sons of the tribes of Israel) and the sun and the moon would obey him (remember what it says in the Bible about the oppression of Joseph in Zechariah 10:6, Amos 6:6 and Acts 7:9) .

"When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;  4. What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"

Here David so eloquently describes more than one heaven, the “work of thy fingers” of God, the “ordained” moon and the stars.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

And in Matthew as well as the other gospels, the same version of the events of the coming tribulation – the sun will be darkened and the moon shall not give light, and the stars shall fall from heaven.

Can the stars fall from heaven and hit JUST the earth?  Was there an “earth” before this one?  And if so, what happened to it?

Why did God send a rainbow to promise Noah that this would be the last time he would destroy the earth with a flood?  Was there one before the event of Noah’s day?

One day, about two years back when I was working on the blog, I received a message.  I don’t know who it was from because I wasn’t trying to track visitors or emails back then.  There was no name on it, it just said “you’ve been here before…”

There is more than enough evidence in the Bible scripturally to attest to a “former days” and “days of old”, “men of old”, and the “foundation of the world”.

How this happened or the way God planned it is beyond our understanding, but we are promised by God that all “mysteries” will be finished.

"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."

To some, the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven are made known.  To others they are not.  This was preordained, from the days of old . . . because we HAVE been here before.

He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Why is this?

I believe what the Bible says . . . period.  The firmament was called so for a reason.  Do I believe that the sky is “solid”?  Do I believe that there is an “ocean” above the “firmament” called “heaven”?  Despite what “modern” science has “discovered” I can’t help the tickle in my brain brought on by this verse:

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:"

A wise man once sang “where rockets fly and research lies, in progress to become…” in a song titled “Be Not Always”.

More to come….

An unbelieved truth can hurt a man much more than a lie. It takes great courage to back truth unacceptable to our times. There's a punishment for it, and it's usually crucifixion.” ― John Steinbeck, East of Eden

Tuesday, February 25, 2014

The Bell Curve of the Firmament Part 1

Ezekiel Means Strength of God

"Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?  29. Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?  30. The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

31. Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?  32. Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?  33. Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?"

In the last blog titled “Another Sign of Michael”, we found reference to a future “king” of Jerusalem mentioned in both Ezekiel 17, and Isaiah 44 (“surname himself by the name of Israel).  We can add these to the passages we found in “Exploring Zerubbabel” who would finish a future temple “not made with hands”.

There is more to the Zerubbabel story, but I want to break for now to something which may be a bit more urgent.

I had started the topic on Zerubbabel because of something I read in Ezekiel; however it was another topic in Ezekiel that I had promised you more information on, back when I posted “Why Its Michael Jackson – Part 4” and “UFO”.

There was a specific word used in Ezekiel that brought me to the “seven mountains” mentioned in Revelation 17.  Those seven mountains, when you read about them in Revelation 17:9  are the continents of the world.  We know this because the “woman” who sits on the beast with seven heads and ten horns also sits on “many waters”.  We are told further down in that chapter on verse 15, that the “waters” are “peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues”.  The seven heads are seven mountains (verses 9 and 10 - the continents) and there are seven kings; five fallen, one that is, and one that is not yet.  These are global kingdoms or “empires” if you want to call them that.  The ten crowns (verse 12) are ten kings that are not given a kingdom but rule “for one hour” with the beast.  It is not “seven mountains” around a geographic state of Israel.

Then I had the dream about the flood.  I have dreamt of floods more than once.  The one I had last night took place in a hilly, mountainous terrain.  The Flooding that came was rushing water, as if some spillway had opened up.  We were grabbing onto trees as the water rushed through the underbrush and it was coming from everywhere.  In the dream I thought “somehow they made this come up from the ground” and I grabbed onto the roots of a tree to pull myself up.  As I did this a man beside me said “this took out a boy scout camp”.  I woke up when he said this and my first thought was Philmont, out in New Mexico.

Where we were in the dream was not near the headwaters where the flood first took place.  We were fighting through what was up country.  They did something to cause the waters from the ground to come up.  This reminded me of the interesting theories we posted about Noah’s flood over a year ago.  The theory came from the mention of “the great deep” in Genesis 7:11:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

The great deep was not what originally caught my eye though, it was the “windows of heaven”.  I remembered several passages that drove me back to the beginning, such as Isaiah 46, which says:

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

And in the beginning God told Noah, after 150 days of waiting for the waters to recede; “be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth” in Genesis 9:1.

This is the same thing God instructed Adam to do in Genesis 1:

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

God tells Adam and Eve to “replenish” the earth, which suggests that the earth had been wiped out previously.  The dream I had Saturday night was about a regional flood.  But two dreams I had previously; both seen through solid glass walls, made me wonder about the difference with this most recent dream.  The dreams in which I was watching water come at us from behind glass walls were oceanic tsunami’s.  One I wrote about here back in June of 2011.

For this reason, I wanted to take a another look at the other  mentions of “the great deep” in the Bible, and the “windows of heaven”. 

The great deep in reference to floods or waters is mentioned a few times in the Bible.  One of those is in Isaiah 51 and Ezekiel, both in relation to the “end times” flood.

Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?

An interesting chapter in Isaiah, we learn that the “waters of the great deep” are listed separately from the “sea”.  And in verses 13 and 14 of that same chapter, Isaiah describes the power of the Lord who stretched forth the heavens and “laid the foundations of  the earth”.  Zerubbabel was chosen to “lay the foundation of the house of God” in Zechariah 4:9.

In verse 14 of Isaiah 51, which reads in context:

"13 And forgettest the Lord thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?

14 The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed, and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail."

Here we learn that the “oppressor” whom Isaiah tells them they fear more than the Lord, is the one they are asking not to let die in the pit – because they are still dependent on his “system” “that his bread should not fail”.  They want his release “hastened”.  This is about the end times and the release of them in the pit.

In Ezekiel 16, the end times flood mentioned in Daniel 9:26, 11:22 and Revelation 12:15-16,  is also brought up as a flood that comes out of the dragon’s mouth that the earth swallows up to “help the woman” who gave birth to the man child.

For thus saith the Lord God; When I shall make thee a desolate city, like the cities that are not inhabited; when I shall bring up the deep upon thee, and great waters shall cover thee;

Here he doesn’t call it “the great deep” but just “the deep.”  Ezekiel 31 gets even more interesting.  God identifies the Pharoh as the one who will go with them that helped him, down to the pit and into hell.  They are not just talking about the pharoh of Ezekiel’s time, but the spirit of the beast who will go with the dragon down into the pit, and who will go into hell on judgment day.  It speaks of his grave, all the way back to the trees of Eden.  Verse 15 reads:

Thus saith the Lord God; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him."

In Amos chapters 6 and 7, God shows two visions to Amos because of Israel’s arrogance and iniquity.  In Chapter 6 the visions are so much to bear that Amos pleads with the Lord to “not let this be”.  The Lord charges that they live luxuriously but do not grieve over the affliction of Joseph.  So the Lord tells Amos that they will go “captive with the first that went captive”.  The Lord abhors the excellency of Jacob and hates his palaces.  He calls that He will deliver up the city and everyone in it.

Verses 10 and 11 are interesting:

"10 And a man's uncle shall take him up, and he that burneth him, to bring out the bones out of the house, and shall say unto him that is by the sides of the house, Is there yet any with thee? and he shall say, No. Then shall he say, Hold thy tongue: for we may not make mention of the name of the Lord.

11 For, behold, the Lord commandeth, and he will smite the great house with breaches, and the little house with clefts."

A man’s uncle?  Is this a clue as what happens during Amos’ time or in the future?  A man’s uncle and he that “burned” him shall take him up, to bring out the bones out of the house.  And they may not make mention of the name of the Lord.

Verse 13, the Lord tells Ezekiel “Ye which rejoice in a thing of nought, which say, Have we not taken to us horns by our own strength?"  This continues into chapter 7 where God shows Amos the two visions in which Amos pleads “Lord God, forgive” and “by whom shall Jacob arise, for he is small?”

Of the two visions; one in which God formed grasshoppers to eat up all the grass that wasn’t mowed down by the king (Rev. 9).  Chapter 8 of Revelation also reveals another vision of Amos’, which is the fire that eats up a forth of everything on the first trumpet, including the deep.

Thus hath the Lord God shewed unto me: and, behold, the Lord God called to contend by fire, and it devoured the great deep, and did eat up a part."

Each time Amos pleads for the Lord to forgive, the Lord tells Amos that “this also will not be”.  However, the Lord shows Amos another vision of the Lord standing on a wall  made with a plumbline as He was holding the plumbline that would divide the people, and divide the land.

The Great Deep

There was something interesting posted by who may or may not be Michael Jackson’s real nephew.  It was a Twitter picture he posted way back in 2011.  We posted it to the blog again in 2013 on the blog titled “The Alpha and Omega”.  The picture was titled “Hollow Earth”.

Hollow Earth
Jafaar Jackson Twitter Post

Interestingly enough on that same blog topic, just below the video of “The Harvest Part 4”, was a quote from Ivan Panin in Wikipedia:

Number of resurrection

Eight is the number of new life or "resurrection". It is the personal number of Jesus. When we add together the letter values of the name Jesus in the Greek we get 888. Jesus was called The Christ, the numeric value of this title is 1480 (185 x 8). He was Saviour which has the value 1408 (2 x 8 x 88).

Jesus is also Lord which again is a multiple of eight being 800 (100 x 8). Messiah has the numeric value 656 (82 x8). Jesus also called himself the Son of man. The term occurs 88 times and is valued at 2960 (370 x 8)."

This of course is the “numerology” in the Bible that they’ve attached to certain names, words and phrases.  However, if Jesus’ name holds the number the represents new life – the number 8 – We also see this associated with both Noah and the end times servant/beast who was but is not:

"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;"


"And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

Which proves again that the beast is of the seven (kingdoms) and is also the eighth, the last kingdom, the one of the everlasting.  Noah was also a “new” start, just like Christ is for our time, with seven other members of his family (three sons, their wives, Noah’s wife).  And Jesus was OF the seven Kingdoms and his return, also the eighth and after the time of the abomination is complete.

How Many Knew?

What I believe about Michael Jackson from the very beginning was inspired by the spirit of God.  It started with God first through a sense of Justice, then through a prayer of sacrifice.  Struggles with what God was showing me existed, yes; just as they did with Daniel, just as they did with Jeremiah, just as they did with Jonah and even Paul at times.

R.E.M. is not the only artist that was “inside” knowing what was going to happen.  George Michael, the “other” Sony-oppressed  artist recorded a song called “Father Figure”:

George Michael - Father Figure

The lyrics that got me (read them here) in the bridge

"So when you remember the ones who have lied
Who said that they cared
But then laughed as you cried
Beautiful darling
Don't think of me"

Because all i ever wanted
It's in your eyes baby, baby
And love can't lie. No...
(greet me with the eyes of a child) [background)
(heaven is a kiss and a smile)
Just hold on, hold on
I won't let you go, my baby

George Michael also did this one:

Like Jesus To a Child

George Michael performed this at the MTV Music Awards in 1994 in Berlin.  I know who this was to.  He sings "when He took your love away"; When I heard "Heaven sent and Heaven stole, I knew exactly who he was talking about - Read the lyrics here.

I had quoted a few songs from R.E.M. in a previous blog citing proof they knew about 9/11 long before it happened.  That song, “End of the World As We Know It” sports the lyrics “plane flying too low” and “don’t get caught in foreign towers” also matched Isaiah 30:25:

"And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall."

It is also proof that the destruction of the twin towers was not only a planned event, it was symbolic of the very story the Bible is trying to communicate to you.

Another R.E.M. song that raised my hairs is “I Took Your Name”.  Is this in answer to Michael’s “take my name and just let me be” in “Stranger in Moscow”?

REM’s lyrics in part: “I sequenced  your arrival, I sealed your fate”, “I signed your living will, I smiled your face” – “I’ll be your albatross, devil, dog, Jesus, God. If there’s some confusion, who’s to blame?

And just on REM’s plate are these rather remarkable titles:

An annotated history, The forest for the fire, Where we open up the floodgates
Freedom reigns supreme, Fire on the hemisphere below - Listen to me" – “Welcome to the Occupation

"Now stand in the place where you work, Now face west, Think about the place where you live, Wonder why you haven't before.  If you are confused, check with the sun, Carry a compass to help you along."” – “Stand

"It's not like if angels Could truly look down, Stir up the trappings A light on the ground.  Remind us of what, when, why or who. The how's up to us, Me and you
And now is greater than the whole, Of the past Is greater and now she knows that.

Now she knows." – “She Just Wants To Be

"Heaven assumed, shoulders high in the room.  Try to win and suit your needs, Speak out sometimes but try to winStanding too soon, shoulders high in the room"” - “Standing too soon”?

The one REM song below names him.


Who will stand alone

She carried ribbons, she wore them out
Courage built a bridge, jealousy tore it down
At least it's something you've left behind
And like Kohoutek you were gone
We sat in the garden, we stood on the porch
I won't deny myself, we never talked

She wore bangles, she wore bells
On her toes and she jumped
Like a fish, like a flying friend
You were gone, like Kohoutek, can't forget that
Fever built a bridge, reason tore it down
If I am one to follow who will stand alone

Maybe you're not the problem, scissors, paper, stone
If you stand and holler, these prayers will talk
She carried ribbons, she wore them out
Michael built a bridge, Michael tore it down
At least it's something you've left behind
Like Kohoutek, you were gone

Michael built a bridge, Michael tore it down
If I stand and holler will I stand alone
REM Lyrics, Kohoutek

This is Kohoutek.  A comet.  Michael “stands” in Daniel 12:1.  Michael built a bridge and Michael tore it down?

"Like A Comet Blazing 'Cross The Evening Sky, Gone Too Soon..." – The very first stanza in Michael Jackson’s “Gone to Soon

“…And just like Kohoutek, you were gone…”

The Bible means what it says.  No need to struggle over wording.  Scripture interprets itself.  The Spirit shows you where:

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Seven Seals of Revelation

There are a couple more items in Ezekiel that relate to Genesis I want to cover next.  And these may very well give you more understanding of the deception to come.

When you have to say "I Do"